[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[40somethingahjumma 46,462]

38 minutes ago, hiluna said:

I wonder whether in history, Gwangjong felt the same way. He surprisingly only had 2 wives and instead chose to eliminate the powerful families who disagreed with him and prone to revolt. Does that make him a bloody king or a strong one? He did end up ruling for a long time and solidified the Goryeon Dynasty but I am no historian just my interpretation of what I read online.

There's always a danger of us imposing our 21st century lenses on historical figures who often did what they had to in the context they were in and with the options that were offered to them in their time. In a sense the current king did what he had to in bloodless fashion to consolidate his power. Marrying was probably the best option open to him without having to draw swords and now that I've re-watched the whole thing, it seemed to me that he did regret having to use Soo in this fashion. Even he could see that she was unique and wasted. Marriage was his negotiation tactic to avoid outright conflict... it's a case of I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine.

Re-watching Ep.6 gave me a different perspective on the entire episode. It helped me to see the overarching theme a lot more clearly. Freedom is a key theme that reverberated all throughout the episode and the discussion about Soo between Baek Ah and So was very telling. Both guys know what it's like to be the underdogs... to have a title but not have real freedom or power to make choices about how they want to live. We take it for granted but for them it is perhaps the most precious commodity and when you consider how gracious it was of them to try and help Soo achieve it when they themselves have little change to attain it.

Perhaps the historical Gwangjong felt the same. That even though he was king he had to pander to factional/clan politics and couldn't rule properly. What if he had genuine reforms he needed to put in place and the political climate hampered his ability to do so. Marrying would probably add another layer of complexity, another interest group. In the end it's the people that suffer. It's always the commoners that bear the brunt of factional fighting. It's probably no different from Sejong's father, Taejong. He too attempted to diminish the power of his in-laws so that his son could be free to rule and do what he had to do. For us it feels extreme having to purge but that's what our modern day revolutionaries do as well. Heads roll... people go to jail for dissent. We don't have to like what they do but at least we have to see things from their perspective.

There's nothing new under the sun.

[solelylurking 4,761]

My friend @KdramaSwimmer...

Uri Wookie has taken steps! Yeaaayyy! Eventhough it's baby steps but at least he's not hovering anymore. We just have to wait for him to be all bad and power hunger for Soo. He said himself he was sick of being lame hahaha.. 

I wanted to talk to you about him last night but I forgot because thos thread is moving at the speed of light. 

[Niki Azia 5,307]

[HanCinema's Drama Review] "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" Episode 6

 

I'm having trouble grasping how much time has progressed in "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo". Last episode had all this beautiful winter scenery and yet this episode there's...none? Does that mean that Soo has been in Goryeo for several months? Because it sure doesn't feel like it's been that long. Mainly this is a consequence of the story having slowed to a crawl, as politics take a backseat to everything revolving around Soo for no good reason.

The crisis in question is very episodic. I suspect it could have been removed completely from the story with no significant long-term changes having been affected. This isn't a bad thing, for the sake of a breather or a change in routine, but then that's the whole problem. There's all this cool stuff going on in the background of"Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" and Soo is, as far as all the other characters know, just a normal courtly servant. Why does she warrant such special attention?

IU can act as generally cute as she likes. At the end of the day, I'd like Soo much more as a protagonist if she actually did stuff or showed complex emotional reactions. So far her main apparent purpose has simply been to be liked by the princes. It's also worth iterating that the time travel aspect of "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" has to date, been horribly underused. Aside from Soo's obviously anachronistic personality there's no indication that she is from the future and possesses skills normal Goryeo people do not.

Except when it comes to emoticons, of course. I will admit that "Scarlet Heart: Ryeo" is reasonably entertaining when it comes to silly comedy. The puppet show was pretty fun, too, even if it does rather beg the question of what exactly the princes do all day. Goryeo isn't a modern monarchy where princes live large on the government dole. Back then royalty were expected to work for their keep, not chase skirts.

Alas, any hope for a more interesting, dynamic plot is going to have to wait until the next episode. I really do hope we're going to get more of Prince So. He's easily the most interesting character because there's all sorts of mysteries swirling about the guy, and it's clear that Prince So himself doesn't know what's going on with half of them. Contrast that to Soo, about which we know pretty much everything and who is, consequently, a tad boring.

Review by William Schwartz

http://www.hancinema.net/hancinema-s-drama-review-scarlet-heart-ryeo-episode-6-98637.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[qwenli 62,602]

omo, I just watched the naver tv cast bts. omo, they tried making Lee joon gi carried her instead?

ha, why eventually it was decided that she goes to wook? 

oh they all love her! LJG acting like a vampire trying to bite her wrist and KHN being all touchy feeling with her.

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[bingewatcherinsomniac 1,213]

30 minutes ago, Yippeuni said:

This JM reaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllyyyyyyyy have hidden agenda. 

He said to HS to follow her fate.

Then after the marriage canceled to save HS he said both queen wants her. Then he also throw his ultimate weapon that Lady SG also wants her to work at royal spa. And the king instantly say okay after hearing "Lady SG wants her too", heemmmmm JM what card are you playing in here. But in front of Wook he said I don't understand why the King even send her to lady SG place...iiissshhh this ahjussi, who are you trying to lied to.

But he does affraid of So...hahahahaha at the last scene when the princes running to see HS, So stay and talk to JM. JM instantly avoid his look and saiy "you misunderstanding" hahahahha what kind act are you going to pull JM yaaa...

Love the next preview at Eun birthday even to see Mo smiling to meet the IT girl. Like YH said, HS have such a very good luck that even Mo likes her too.....

 

 

IKR. I also thought jimong has a hidden motive. Maybe not in malicious way, but his action and inaction sometimes intrigues me, as if he's there with a sole purpose to keep history in tact. He's like a referee in this time travelling game of chance. 

He's aware of haesoo came from different times and her chance to messing up with history but without exposing his own identity (he's a time traveler too) he kept her in check to not go against her fate but at the same time helping her cause in front of the king if needed. I can't imagine what would happen if haesoo been demoted socially as a slave, with no family helping her around even Princes cannot do much to help her if that happens. If jimong only think of his purpose, eliminates haesoo as slave will benefit him more because as a slave haesoo can't do much in changing history, but he also consider her well being and suggesting that becoming a palace maid is a better option. He is like a passive fairy godparents to haesoo. Lol. At first he making up excuse that all the Queen and royal concubine wants haesoo as their helper but since it doesn't work, he come up with another excuse that it was lady oh sanggoo that took a liking of her skills that could benefiting damiwon palace. 

When later he confess to wook and haesoo that he didn't know why lady oh wants her to become court lady/palace maid, it just to downplay his part in making those king decision and sheepishly admitted that he is lying to King (making up excuse)  just to save haesoo. 

[IAmSoulReader 5,717]

I love how carefree and comfortable LJK's and IU's interactions are on their behind the scenes cuts. Despite the age gab and everything they seem very close and have a great chemistry. If she wasn't already taken I could totally imagine them as a couple. It's different from KHN too who is very lovely but still seems to be a little too much of an IU fanboy to really be as playful as LJK with her. 

[qwenli 62,602]

sorry, need to spazz about this 

Man, the guy is smooth huh? just ask for her hand and then launch a bite towards. He obviously remember his Scholar who walks the Night role. 

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[shiraru 7,695]

Her answer in question two...it seems there are really a lot of scenes that are cut...oh, such a shame...I wonder if the complete cut would make the story flow much better?

[ruzikie 37,229]

15 minutes ago, qwenli said:

omo, I just watched the naver tv cast bts. omo, they tried making Lee joon gi carried her instead?

ha, why eventually it was decided that she goes to wook? 

oh they all love her! LJG acting like a vampire trying to bite her wrist and KHN being all touchy feeling with her.

See,it was supposed to be him carried her but it's okay because i'm satisfied with the naver cast tv. Aigooo, SoSoo couple will burn my screen tonight

 

[Nymeria289 23,261]

54 minutes ago, sharreb said:

 

Hopefully the difference btwn international and SBS version for tonight's episode isn't too different. 

And thanks to those sharing the new clip on d preview and bts. So cute.

This is so confusing. I didn't know which one to watch. SBS has royally richard simmons up this show in terms of editing. Alternate edits are good for DVD, not when you air it at the same time. I know and agree they needed to edit better and am glad that they are doing it but airing it simultaneously is confusing for us international viewers. I hope they get their act together.

[arabela 2,340]

39 minutes ago, liddi said:

@MyMindIsASnowflake 

do you know what WS says to JM in SBS's final scene, minute 58?

[Latte_Anyday 13,812]

Aha that scene where IU passes out after slitting her wrist to defy marriage, all Princes (well except Jonghyun) fussed over her. No wonder the Princess is so jealous LoL! Yikes to think that IU was close to being the Princes' new stepmom Love that horseback riding scene between IU, Joonki - it was so hot, yet sweet that he wanted to rescue her, although he denies he does it because he likes her (sure keep telling yourself that LoL)

That astronomer knows more than he lets on... He also seem to have a hand in rescuing IU. I also think what she said to that concubine struck a chord hence led to her being her court lady. How cute is the bromance between Baekhyun/ Jisoo LoL?! I wonder why Joonki kept his distance from IU in ep. 06, leaving the other Princes to care for her. I'm in the minority that didn't really like IU in Royal Wedding garb, the hairpiece looked enormous on her tiny head LoL. 

[andy78 138,248]

i could not watch the new preview... any youtube version?

[Nymeria289 23,261]

1 minute ago, andy78 said:

i could not watch the new preview... any youtube version?

You mean this one,

 

[liddi 35,381]

5 minutes ago, arabela said:

do you know what WS says to JM in SBS's final scene, minute 58?

@arabela Unfortunately no. That is the 2nd So-JM scene that did not show in the international version, hence no subs  Hoping someone could translate it too!

[andy78 138,248]

7 minutes ago, Nymeria289 said:

You mean this one,

yes thanks so much i love them...i can't wait for her to get over WW and fall for WS

[arabela 2,340]

just noticing something  Wook most frequent reply is kind of I promised it will never happen to you again ... 

this episode WS in SBS version seems more mature than his ealier version from ep 1-3

[KdramaAddict 14,568]

 @solelylurking

absolutely Wook was first is all that he did for HS and made me feel satisfied as this is what Second Lead should be. He was there already every place where WS went to help. But yes then its male lead should win and it happened. And that tug of heart has started.. I too missed to discuss with you.  Slept early yesterday and had tl read 10 pages herepto catch up.

Ahh that video... oh so cute.. adorable Uri Wangjanim... his smile, smirk, huffing... how come any expression he gives can be such other worldly cute.... can't wait to his possessive version to tear the world. 

Less.than 2 hrs..... my heart has started beating fast...

[MadraRua 19,963]

The Great Escape

 

 

Love how all the Princes made a concerted effort to help her.