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3 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

Well, I can understand why you see Wang So differently as he has proved his martial skills but I see him as a beta, because he is the prince with the lowest status. His life depends on the support of clans. However, his father dislikes him and his mother rejects him as well. Furthermore his adoptive family has always seen him as hostage so that it is clear that he has no support at all. As such, it is not possible to try to win the throne if you're on your own. Here, it is not possible in my opinion to compare him to a wolf because his only strength is not enough to impose himself. For me, Wang So is right now not aiming at the throne... he just wants to survive and be part of his family.  

 

You know - I see him as a Alpha was was treated for his whole life as a Beta... but he still has the qualities of an Alpha and he will soon act more and more like it.

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1 hour ago, valsava said:

@Mau_Cherry In the beginning it seems that WY was very protective of his brother when we see how the mom cut his face WY shouted out for him.. I like to think him seeing his mom behave this way made him fear her and then watching how she threw him away after harming him what did she do to WY to make him do her bidding did she use threats on him clearly the child had to be afraid of her.. Now she will use WY to go against WS  sad how both children have become victims of mom rage and greed for the throne.. She has to put WY on the throne because he's the onlyone that would do as she says but in WS case it's different the wounds are to deep and she has rejected him time and time again..

I think it was Mo that was with So when his face was scarred not WY.

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Okay so I may be making multiple one line posts as I see the raw so bear with me chingudeul! I can't help but be vocal tonight.

So just how much power does Yeonhwa have........I'm like gritting my teeth coz she seems to be more in command than her own brother, So, all the younger ones even :angry: Like why would those guards seem like they heed her more than the princes! I mean they didnt even make a proper getaway with HS before being caught. How come YH gets to question/reprimand Wook on his stunt.....frustrating.

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42 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said:

 

It is an adaption  meaning that it is going to be like BBJX with certain events like the princes etc but they change it to fit their history and culture. So some scenes are like BBJX but there are new scenes that are created to fit in with korean history. Its not fully like BBJX but the main idea is from BBJX. hope you get what I'm trying to say

thank  you chinnngu , the only reasson  i asked this   ffor is that Ruoxi had a kiss scenne with the 8th prinnce  nd they  had some  romantic  momennts together so will  Han soo have these scenes  with the  prince  8th  ?? Nd conserning the ending   are  they gonna  adopt  the C version too???

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hello My Scarlet Heart Ally

how is life with u all ?

Scarlet heart is my very first Korean historical drama to fell in love with so deeply & It's MY FIRST KOREAN MELODRAMA to watch xD

I hate melodramas ! why ? because my life is full enough with dramas x'D

 

anyway , am going to join you from time to another time & share comments with u

specially about sooso OTP <3

 

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14 minutes ago, Mau_Cherry said:

 

You know - I see him as a Alpha that was treated for his whole life as a Beta... but he still has the qualities of an Alpha and he will soon act more and more like it.

Sure, there is something true in it. Yet all this comes from his bad experiences: the scar, the rejection and his situation as hostage. His strong will to survive forged him to overcome all this. I would like to add that I am not using the 4th prince from the novel or Chinese version who was described as calculating and really thoughful. Wang So appears here differently: more emotional, but also smart, strongwilled and strong enough to know what to do in crisis.  

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i can't stop thinking why they didn't make any contact between 4th prince and hs when she enter in the palace .....what she just ignore him ???? aaaa this scene i don't like it 

but i like the hourse scene and when she cut her hand ...it was epic :) i hope tomorow i see more HS+sexy bad 4th prince 

sorry for my bad english .

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I read all your recaps. Thank you for that. :wub:

And now I'm hesitant to watch this episode. I know I won't like it. It's not what we anticipated at all. That was a sweet dream of them running away together but what do we have now? King Taejo acceded to a marriage with Hae Soo and fully planned on going through with it until she scarred herself (and that's what I think she did rather than a suicide attempt). We built up this episode with our expectations, that now it seems strange to watch a different version - or I should say the true version. I'm gutted she had to go through all that. But I am delighted Wook and So were there for her begging the King no less to stop the marriage. It seems like it was no big deal to do so in the end, he granted the family land. I think Taejo was being greedy this time. He didn't have to have her in marriage at all and when he saw his sons begging he was not in the least swayed until she marked herself. How could he have let it go that far? And then to want her to be demoted to a slave?? Thank God for the astronomer - at least he chimed in with her being a palace maid. Where was the evil Queen in all this?? Quietly sipping tea. I suppose she's given up at this stage trying to interfere in his many marriages. Bit disappointing. She could have created more of a fuss. Certainly, Wook's mother should have remembered Lady Hae's dying wish. But I suppose she was relieved to have it taken out of her hands. Coward. She just likes to fly under the radar, and not make a scene if she can help it. 

Time to put my big girl pants on now and watch it. cruch-onion-head-emoticon.gif

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1 hour ago, Neng Erlina said:

 

Btw, anyone could give the link where I could read about the reign of the 4th Prince? I read it on wiki, but I did not find about the fact that he killed his siblings. In one of the interview, I think it was for Cosmo the one who played 3rd Prince said that he got imprisoned for his doing.

I have also been trying to find out where it says that he killed his brothers.  The only example of family killing that I read of was his nephews, son of Mo and son of Yo for revolts. So does that mean HS is really bad at history or that she ends up changing history thereby saving the princes?

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6 hours ago, YourHighness . said:

@solelylurking

Honestly, noone is hating Wang Wook here, but yes, some of us (like me) criticised him. However just by doing this doesn't mean that we hate him. From critic to hate, there is a huge gap. Furthermore the world is not just black and white, just like Wang So. The latter might have been neglected and abused, yet he can be a dangerous and violent man. So Wang Wook might be a nice and well-mannered person, yet he is not that good either. 

The main reproach has been that he is too passive, when it comes to Hae Soo. People mentioned that the origin of his passivitiy is that he has much more responsabilities than Wang So, who was never been raised like him and has no family. Wang So has always been apart from social conventions, nonetheless this point doesn't justify Wang Wook's passivity, since we saw that Wang Wook can be decisive and very quick by making decisions. Let me give you one example:

When the king asked the princes about dethroning Mu, Wang Wook was the first to react and he was followed by the others. They were all put under pressure, he needed to think quickly and make sure that his family is safe. He was able to handle the situation pretty well. Later in the episode 4, when they were before the king again, Wang So confessed that he was the one who killed the monks and destroyed the temple.

What Wang So did was really dangerous, but Wang Wook supported Wang So by justifying Wang So's actions. As we can observe, Wang Wook has learnt to deal with pressure and to keep his family safe. So in my opinion, his situation doesn't justify his behaviour. Now back the main reproach: his passivity towards Hae Soo. He didn't stop the whipping, he didn't interrupt Baek Ah, when the latter was yelling at Hae Soo. He could have intervened here too by saying that he was the main culprit, but he never did. But in my opinion, he is not just passive towards Hae Soo, but also towards lady Hae. For the whole time he had been married, he never said anything about his feelings towards her so that lady Hae always thought, he never loved her. We all know, he did, even if it was a different love. His passivity is even more visible, when the prince wanted to tell his wife that he did love her, but he was stopped just before she died.

 

He accepted her decision, which he will regret later. As conclusion, he was also passive towards lady Hae. From my point of view, when it comes to love, Wang Wook is like paralysed. The other reason why I said, he is a nice guy, but not necessarly a good person is because he promised a lot of things to Hae Soo, but he was never able to keep his promises. He told her, she would never be treated like this again, yet we know, this is not true as he is unable to stop the arranged marriage. Lady Hae pushed him towards Hae Soo and he knew that therefore he wrote Hae Soo a poem and asked for an answer. She asked him to take a second wife, but he refused as he was afraid of it. Wang Wook is very intelligent, when it comes to survive at the court but when it comes to love, he is completely overwhelmed by his feelings so that he is scared of these. MAybe this can be explained by this way: he feels he is not controlling the situation or the relationship, when it comes to love. Therefore he keeps his feelings to himself so that the other has no idea that she has so much power over him. From my point of view, he would have kept Hae Soo like that, secure her feelings for him and nothing else in return, if lady Hae hadn't died. Wang So is the opposite: his feelings are what pushes him to act or react. He killed all these monks out of love for his mother, but it was a really dangerous move because he could have been blamed for the assassination of the Crown Prince. 

Chingu thanks you for writing all of Wang Wooks faults concerning his feeling for others. I agree wanting to protect your family is honorable but it should not be at the expense of somone else's life or wants. Wang Wook acts like a "NICE GUY" only for show in my oppinion. He has lots of sides to his personality ( ambiton for the thorne and arrogance and Kindness). He has never let anyone see his arrogant and ambitious side but only his kindness. I think his kidness is a way to attract alies to his plan of becoming emporror. If everyone sees his good deeds, the way he treats his servants and his kindness for his brothers is a good way for him build his allies. Evan now he still doesn't have any true alies except for his brothers.  One thing I am positive is that he doesn't like Wang So and he considers him competition for Hae Soo's affection. He also thinks Wang So is not a person but someone he could get as an ally but not as a brother. I think Wang Wook will one day show Hae Soo the real HATE he has for Wang So , then she will lose respect for him once and for all. 

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I havent watched the ep yet. But I dont think princess Yeonhwa arrange heasoo s marriage with the king, to be her stepmother. No. Hae clan is lady hae s side of the family and thats where haesoo belongs. So after the death of the lady hae, haesoo is not related to wooks family at all. It looks like hae clans elders wanted to use the orphan haesoo for their advantage, with a businessarrangement marriage with the king. Yeonhwa would never want haesoo in the palace, because thats where she wants to enter herself. 

Thanks for recaps. You guys are life and sanity savers. 

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18 minutes ago, littleloony said:

Okay so I may be making multiple one line posts as I see the raw so bear with me chingudeul! I can't help but be vocal tonight.

So just how much power does Yeonhwa have........I'm like gritting my teeth coz she seems to be more in command than her own brother, So, all the younger ones even :angry: Like why would those guards seem like they heed her more than the princes! I mean they didnt even make a proper getaway with HS before being caught. How come YH gets to question/reprimand Wook on his stunt.....frustrating.

This is a good question. It looks like Yeon Hwa has much more power than her brother. Maybe because she's is in the good graces of His Majesty's. It seems like in the past, Wang Wook has made a mistake and he pissed off the king. We don't now. As you have seen it seems the mistress of the house of Wang Wook is Yeon Hwa.

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29 minutes ago, littleloony said:

Hi @Immortal_Angel can I ask you for some clarification on the chinese drama's plot and also the original novel if you have read it? From what I gathered....Ruoxi knew her history well and so knew that 4th prince would eventually wipe out his brothers to take the throne, which means the 8th prince would be killed. When she fell in love with him she tried to alter 8th's historical fate by a) asking him to forego the ambition to get the throne and when that did not work b.) telling him to be wary of 4th. What was her relation status with the 4th prince at this time? I mean did she like him as a friend or he liked her? If not then just why did she shift towards liking/loving the 4th later on? Had she ever said anything to 4th prince that might have directly altered history, like say not to fight for the throne etc?

My point of all these questions is that in the spoiler you have highlighted about 13th and 4th's relation.....so it seems that ultimately it is not Ruoxi but concern about 13th's well being and his deep bond with him actually spurred 4th to compete for the throne and take revenge against all those who had harmed 13th (like the 8th prince). Can it be interpreted like this or is it not so simple?

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It's been a while so I might not remember correctly so please if I got something wrong just chip in ^_^ So in the cversion, Ruoxi knew her history quite well even when she was called to face the king, she knew who he was and what he did in his life to get to the throne. When she met the princes, at first it didn't hit her but when they were all sitting talking and laughing, she had a flash in her mind of the outcome of all the princes and what they will suffer at the end. The time she spent with 8th she liked him and didn't want what would happen to him so she tried to change his fate. (To me, when I was watching, i felt that if she thought if she can change 8th fate, she can change all of theirs from theirs but it didn't). Her relationship with 4th at that time was mutual, she would avoid him because she knows he would be the future king and that he is the ultimate winner at the end of the fight for the throne, but because of that he would find her interesting and would find chances to talk to her even if its just to pissed her off. He couldn't help himself from falling in love with her and he's the type that do not let his emotions control him but with her he let his guard down. When Ruoxi broke off with 8th, she knew her only way to survive within the walls of the palace is to side with 4th in which in the beginning she side for survival but that's when she let her guard down and fell for him. When she warn 8th to be aware of 4th, she didn't think that because of her words, it was what cause the history to take its course. Worst was she gave 8th a list of names he should be aware of. She warned 8th was because she loved him but then she loved herself knowing that if she picked 8th and if history was corrected, he will fall and his whole family will too so it was a risk for her to picked 8th that was when she asked him to pick between the throne or her. He worked to hard to get where he is in so giving it up is a big no so she left him. 

I believed Ruoxi never said anything to 4th that changed anything cause she knows in the end he is the one that would win. She tried to stop him from setting out to get ones that conspire against him but he never did stop. She would know that as king he has to make certain decision that not all would agree on in which drive a wedge in between them. What got her tired of the palace at the end was when after she miscarriage and 4th blamed 8th wife, making her divorce 8th and she commit suicide, and 8th said she did nothing wrong why did she ended up with this fate. thats when Ruoxi realized not even she can change 4th ways so she wanted to live her days out in a peaceful way and she knew only 14th has a way to help her. 4th and 13th got alot cause they never wanted to fight for the throne and live carefree so they got along. 13 was the only one that was willingly standing at his side for a long time.

In the beginning 4th never had any intention on fighting for the throne but with Ruoxi warning, 8th and his gang (in which 9th was involve) set a trap to get rid of 4th but 13th instead step into the trap and was place under house arrest for more than 10 years by the king (Kangxi). Ruoxi tried to plead with the king 3 days and 3 nights even 14th tried an the only thing that the king did was allow the person 13th love to be under house arrest with him. Ruoxi then was punished to be maid in the laundry service in which took a toll in her health before she was able to be back serving the king. During the 10 years, 4th was getting angry with the other princes faction but because of this, Ruoxi and 4th begin falling in love. After he was king they butt head often about his ways of dealing with the people against him. And later when 8th wife told her because of her warning against 4th, that's when Ruoxi realized even though step by step she tried not to interfere with history, because of her it happened. After losing her child, and 8th wife suicide, and her cannot bear anymore children, she told 4th and 13th because of her it happen. Because she was the one that told 8th to be wary of 4th thats why 8th singled out 4th and attack him and the people around him she told him to hate her treat her like an enemy and lash out on her but he wouldn't. So that's when she decided to leave so she told 13th to tell 14th "okay" to what he wanted which was to let him marry her as his concubine but 8th knew that 4th wouldnt let her go so he went and told 4th of their love story which pissed 4th and he pushed Ruoxi away. She then became 14th concubine but because of her hardship her health took a toll and when she wrote a letter to 4th, and 14th saw it, he saw how her brush stroke was exactly like 4th. It shows how much she loves him to the point that unconsciously she adapt his brush strokes writing like he does. and at that time if one mimic a king writing, they are sentence to death, so he put it in and envelope to 4th but he never open it till it was too late

 

 

So for the kversion beside 13th it could be the Crown Prince since he wanted to help 4th get back into the palace and saved him when he was young

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1 hour ago, Mau_Cherry said:

 

The King is to blame to use marriage again and  again as an political instrument - but he was not asking for a young girl. He was not even asking for Hae Soo. I see it like it was the Princess who has her hands in here... she made the Deal so the powerful  Hae Family is again bounded to the King. King only foudn out later that it was Hae Soo - but he would never take hiw word back - that would looks like he did a mistake.

@Mau_Cherry  I also thought she had a hand in the King decision, Being she could feel HS taking all her brothers time from her and showing that so many of them are interested in her.. She may have suggested to the King to keep brothers from fighting for her knowing WW was in love with his wife cousin becoming a brother wife or concubine would means she's off limit to her but being the king concubine she could have some lead way being the princess she is she would always hold more power then the king concubine while  the king is alive and even after his death.. If HS marries any of the brothers she to would hold a princess title and she can't have that making her off limits.. 

Welcome Aboard @Neng Erlina  I would like the site that you watch from S one could you please Msgs me the site so I could do some comparisons myself.. Please stop lurking and jump in and chat with us we always looking for a fresh pair of eyes to see things differently..

20 minutes ago, littleloony said:

Okay so I may be making multiple one line posts as I see the raw so bear with me chingudeul! I can't help but be vocal tonight.

So just how much power does Yeonhwa have........I'm like gritting my teeth coz she seems to be more in command than her own brother, So, all the younger ones even :angry: Like why would those guards seem like they heed her more than the princes! I mean they didnt even make a proper getaway with HS before being caught. How come YH gets to question/reprimand Wook on his stunt.....frustrating.

@littleloony  I think she may be the apple in the kings eye that why she dare to do things and none of the other brothers stops her or call her on her nasty attitude.. WS is the only one that don't play by palace rules and question a person action..

 

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TAEYEON – ALL WITH YOU (MOON LOVERS: SCARLET HEART RYEO OST)


I am happy that I’m by your side
I dream because I am by your side

I can smile because I am by your side
I pray again that you will be my person

If you see my heart
And feel my true heart

If you see my heart
And find your way to me

I want to give you all of my heart
If you can stay by my side forever

Thank you
For being by my side

Because you’re by my side
It’s so warm

Because you’re by my side
I am able to have strength

Just looking at you
Makes tears come

If you see my heart
And feel my true heart

If you see my heart
And find your way to me

I want to give you all of my heart
If you can stay by my side forever

Even if we get exhausted in this world
Let’s always stay by each other’s side
Never let go of my hand

I want to use my last love
For you

I would be so happy
If my last destiny was you

I want to give you all of my heart
If you can stay by my side forever

POPGASA

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Thanks for all recaps and all your comments!!! It help me not be crushed by my worst nightmare and keep faith! Thanks to all who support WS-HS even if times are against us! :) And good wishes to all those who support or prefered WW and WW-HS, even it makes my heart bleeding ... :) 

Oh, please writernim dont make WS be some second love for HS, or make HS to love him less, or make a fast and unsustained change in HS's heart form WW to WS just to catch up on last half of this drama; Dont let us have two OTP!!! It will be really difficult for me to watch this drama with a heartbroken, if the love of WS-HS will come out badly, perfunctory, superficial, on the last minute; I do hate kdramas that let me down in the end!!! and I have enough of them this year!!!

At the very beggining I was not able to choose between WW-HS and WS-HS, and I loke both of them.  But because I am madly in love with the idea of "love is a destiny" (even in real life is not that way, let my dream come true at least in kdramas!!!), I forced myself to make a choose -- And now, after I myself fall in love with WS, I am afraid I will have to witness him being in love with a girl that somedays ago look in othes guy's eyes!!! It will very difficult for me to believe she can fall in love with WS, after 7 episodes of having a love line with WW. 

My wish is that I will not have to look hard to find love signs and make interpretations to sustain my preferences! Let WW be a great character and a true gentelman, but let HS to really have her love with WS! or let her love only WW and not be able to respond to WS; But dont make her go with both of them, and me having to dig hard every scene to find her signs for whom she has the real love!!!

But in the end is writernim and PD choices, and if this is what they want, what can I do!!! At least, I stay by WS even he will prove a dissapoinment and dont get the love he wants.

You can count on me WS!!!! :))))  

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16 minutes ago, hiluna said:

I have also been trying to find out where it says that he killed his brothers.  The only example of family killing that I read of was his nephews, son of Mo and son of Yo for revolts. So does that mean HS is really bad at history or that she ends up changing history thereby saving the princes?

 reading your post I went to google page and wiki page and visit most of it that tell about this WS reign but also did not find much information about that.... 55

Geezzz...I have to stop my self trying hard like this...Now I even reach the stage where I learn other country history more passionately than I try to learn my own country history...if my president find out about this he will definitely deported me to goryeo.... 75

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These 13 Scarlet Heart: Ryeo puppy look-a-likes are sure to brighten you day!

by Rara Pop on Mon, Sep 12, 2016

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Have you ever wondered what the Scarlet Heart: Ryeo's cast would look like if they became dogs? Probably not, but the following photos are sure to leave a smile on your face! IU and Baekhyun sure fit the role of adorable puppies!

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1. 4th Prince Wang So (Lee Joon Ki)

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2. Hae Soo (IU)

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3. 8th Prince Wang Ok (Kang Ha Neul)

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4.  3rd Prince Wang Yo (Hong Jong Hyun)

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5. 14th Prince Wang Jung (Ji Soo)

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6. 10th Prince Wang Eun (Baekhyun)

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7. 13th Prince Wang Wook (Nam Joo Hyuk)

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8. Crown Prince Wang Mu (Kim San Ho)

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9. Choi Ji Mong (Kim Sung Kyun)

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10. Chae Ryung (Jin Ki Joo)

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11. Hwangbo Yeon Hwa (Kang Han Na)

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12. Dowager Empress Yoo (Park Ji Young)

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13. King Wang Gun (Ji Min Ki)

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Pretty cute, right? Which person do you think looks most like their puppy counterpart? Do you have a favorite puppy look-a-like? Share your thoughts below!

 

DRAMAFEVER 

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