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Omo this thread is really fast. It's nice to see everyone's insights..

 

In BBJX i prefer 14th because he became someone Rouxi can rely on when everything went downhill. He wouldn't force her as well to marry him, more on waiting for her and I suspect that he loved her as well. Anyway in Ryeo, I definitely prefer 4th, I'm a sucker for dark, brooding handsome prince! lol

But 8th is someone also that makes my heart beat fast hohoho!

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I don't know how you chingu do it but I can't wait for next 2 episodes...:tears:

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1 hour ago, TeBe said:

@KdramaSwimmer But he added also that WS became very obsessive about HS. LJK facial expression when he said that line was a little bit different. I am fearing that his obsession about HS will go overboard and might be the reason he will be so furious about eliminating any threat that he might face. Which means that the bloody fight between 4th and 8th drama will be mainly for HS and not for the throne . I wonder how HS will be reacting to this. I bet she will be blaming herself to death, if the 8th will be killed by his brother because of her. My poor baby Soo ! She won't enjoy WS's love, if it turned out this way. :tears:

 

 

 

I feel like 8th is actually ambition but he just hides it for the cversion he was ambition for the throne but doesn't really show it. Like his family, his sister YH is ambition herself cause she wants to get revenge. I feel like 8th when he lose HS that's when he's determine to fight for the throne. HS maybe is part of the reason but maybe cause his family was exile and had to suffer humiliation under the other queen that pushed his buttons

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It seems that the Scarlet heart Ryeo made some adjustments when it comes to the princes. 13th became like some kind the combination of 14th and 13th of BBJX. 13th supposedly her drinking buddy/soulmate/ bestfriend but not husband . But in Moonlovers (as what I read previously, not sure though) he might become the husband which will be one of the people that might witness Soo's last day in Goryeo. Some were divided.

I'm curious how the battle of princes for the throne will play out.. I don't know how the motivation for the fight between 8th and 4th will start. Just like what also previously said Soo doesn't know much of the history so there's a possibility that she will not be the one that will warn 8th about 4th, then will not be the start of the fight or everything.

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18 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

Looks like Wang So get's mad at her for hurting herself or I'm assuming that's what happened as per previous posts in this thread. (Sorry I can't find them) Question is why would she hurt herself? To stop the arranged marriage? And is that why Wang So and Wang Wook collaborate to spirit her away?

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Oh, sharp eyes! I didn't notice the bandage around her wrist until just now. If I remember correctly, Ruoxi in c-version went through a withdrawal period after the King announced her marriage to the Crown Prince, who had favored her for a concubine after noticing her spunk. She refused to eat or became so depressed, she couldn't eat, and she became ill. 4th Prince was the one who saved her from that depression. He said to trust in him and to believe in him, he'll find a way.

Perhaps MLSHR is taking this section of the plot too and making it their own. Hae Soo can't cope with the idea of losing her freedom and of not being able to marry the man of her choice and for love, so she hurts herself to escape it. I'm intrigued to see where this plot point goes and how they will handle it.

I really love the intensity and anger in Wang So's eyes here. Call me weird, but there's something about seeing him angry that makes me kind of swoony too... LOL Especially if that anger comes from knowing Hae Soo had intentionally hurt herself. And the way Hae Soo is unable to look at Wang So strikes me as so vulnerable. She knows what she did was wrong and she probably feels really guilty for it. For worrying Wang So too. But at the time, she probably felt like she had no other way to escape. And no longer being able to avoid the knowledge that her actions caused Wang So to worry makes her unable to meet his eyes, something she would usually do with him.

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Re:Dr Myri Blogspot.  Just from the style of writing and the interspersing of that running commentary,,, I would guesstimate that the the author of this blog is an overly self impressed 20 something with descent writing skills, bad acne and nothing else to do but start a blog. IF not they should be. I get the impression he likes rubbing people the wrong way... en masse.

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36 minutes ago, sugarista said:

 

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It seems that the Scarlet heart Ryeo made some adjustments when it comes to the princes. 13th became like some kind the combination of 14th and 13th of BBJX. 13th supposedly her drinking buddy/soulmate/ bestfriend but not husband . But in Moonlovers (as what I read previously, not sure though) he might become the husband which will be one of the people that might witness Soo's last day in Goryeo. Some were divided.

 

I'm curious how the battle of princes for the throne will play out.. I don't know how the motivation for the fight between 8th and 4th will start. Just like what also previously said Soo doesn't know much of the history so there's a possibility that she will not be the one that will warn 8th about 4th, then will not be the start of the fight or everything.

 

I'm guessing the motivation is probably Hae Soo and I have a feeling that 8th is actually ambition for the throne he's just not showing it yet. The way when he got annoyed when WS said HS is his and 8th replied nobody is his meaning he is possessive so I have a feeling that when HS begins to fall for WS that's what pushed him to probably want to fight for the throne

 

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maybe they changed 13th and 14th role. cause Lady Hae said HS reminded her of 13th alot so he might fall for HS and his character remind me of 14th in BBJX. 14th so far is too playful and i feel like he's not mature 

 

19 minutes ago, akinahana89 said:

Oh, sharp eyes! I didn't notice the bandage around her wrist until just now. If I remember correctly, Ruoxi in c-version went through a withdrawal period after the King announced her marriage to the Crown Prince, who had favored her for a concubine after noticing her spunk. She refused to eat or became so depressed, she couldn't eat, and she became ill. 4th Prince was the one who saved her from that depression. He said to trust in him and to believe in him, he'll find a way.

Perhaps MLSHR is taking this section of the plot too and making it their own. Hae Soo can't cope with the idea of losing her freedom and of not being able to marry the man of her choice and for love, so she hurts herself to escape it. I'm intrigued to see where this plot point goes and how they will handle it.I really love the intensity and anger in Wang So's eyes here. Call me weird, but there's something about seeing him angry that makes me kind of swoony too... LOL Especially if that anger comes from knowing Hae Soo had intentionally hurt herself. And the way Hae Soo is unable to look at Wang So strikes me as so vulnerable. She knows what she did was wrong and she probably feels really guilty for it. For worrying Wang So too. But at the time, she probably felt like she had no other way to escape. And no longer being able to avoid the knowledge that her actions caused Wang So to worry makes her unable to meet his eyes, something she would usually do with him.

 

Also remember when it was 10th prince bday the king arranged him to marry 8th prince wife sister in which later on she ran out of the carriage being unreasonable that 8th knocked her out. She was unhappy to see a cheerful 10th prince force into a marriage he doesnt want. In this one im sure she will be outspoken about it 

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Watched the 5th ... I need to ask ... might be stupid or useless or I just missed the spot

When did HS get the Butterfly hairpin from WS?
After she delivered the letter or rather emoji to WW she wears the Butterfly-hairpin ....

 

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1 hour ago, akinahana89 said:

 

Oh, sharp eyes! I didn't notice the bandage around her wrist until just now. If I remember correctly, Ruoxi in c-version went through a withdrawal period after the King announced her marriage to the Crown Prince, who had favored her for a concubine after noticing her spunk. She refused to eat or became so depressed, she couldn't eat, and she became ill. 4th Prince was the one who saved her from that depression. He said to trust in him and to believe in him, he'll find a way.

Perhaps MLSHR is taking this section of the plot too and making it their own. Hae Soo can't cope with the idea of losing her freedom and of not being able to marry the man of her choice and for love, so she hurts herself to escape it. I'm intrigued to see where this plot point goes and how they will handle it.

I really love the intensity and anger in Wang So's eyes here. Call me weird, but there's something about seeing him angry that makes me kind of swoony too... LOL Especially if that anger comes from knowing Hae Soo had intentionally hurt herself. And the way Hae Soo is unable to look at Wang So strikes me as so vulnerable. She knows what she did was wrong and she probably feels really guilty for it. For worrying Wang So too. But at the time, she probably felt like she had no other way to escape. And no longer being able to avoid the knowledge that her actions caused Wang So to worry makes her unable to meet his eyes, something she would usually do with him.

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Omo,,,, even sharper mind @akinahana89

I had totally forgot about that. Did a quick google and found this scene. Yes indeed, it could be so. That would explain why she's dressed as a maid. Should be interesting indeed to see where it goes. 

Lol - sadomasochist tendencies? Ah no, I'm only joking. It's the intensity that comes with his anger that is swoon worthy. He's disappointed in her that she would do such a thing. Remember in BBJX when 4th told Ruoxi that she was not allowed to die without his permission? I think a touch of the same intensity might be going on here. That's why he's so angry with her. Where 4th lead Ruoxi followed and I think it'll be the same with Hae Soo and Wang So. In his mind she is forbidden to hurt herself.

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Remember when she surprised him in the bath scene without his mask? He dropped it then and she picked it up.

Edit: Sorry I didn't read your question right. I don't think it's the same hairpin, he hasn't given it to her yet and they wouldn't cut an important scene like that out.

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20 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said:

Also remember when it was 10th prince bday the king arranged him to marry 8th prince wife sister in which later on she ran out of the carriage being unreasonable that 8th knocked her out. She was unhappy to see a cheerful 10th prince force into a marriage he doesnt want. In this one im sure she will be outspoken about it 

 

We may not see the arranged marriage between 10th Prince and 8th Prince's sister in MLSHR. After all, 8th Prince's sister is Yeon Hwa and she's basically a silent participant in the struggle for power. 10th Prince also doesn't stand a high chance of getting the throne and I can't see any reason why the King would find it suitable to wed 10th Prince and Yeon Hwa. Plus, Yeon Hwa is only interested in Wang So.

Whereas in the C-version, while 8th Prince's sister is capable of running the household, much like Yeon Hwa, she doesn't desire power and she has no person of interest. 8th Prince's sister is a supporting character and isn't all that significant. But, I feel, Yeon Hwa serves a higher purpose here, especially if she's capable of succeeding in her schemes and, ultimately, does become queen.

Which is why I think arranging a marriage between Yeon Hwa and 10th Prince would contribute nothing to the plot and even goes against history.

Of course, we could simply see 10th Prince forced into a marriage with some random princess or lady instead of Yeon Hwa, which could make more sense. And if 10th Prince is against it because he doesn't love the woman, then I'm certain Hae Soo will have something to say about that as well, but... I guess we'll see. ^^

 

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15 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

@itzibitzispider 

Remember when she surprised him in the bath scene without his mask? He dropped it then and she picked it up.

Edit: Sorry I didn't read your question right. I don't think it's the same hairpin, he hasn't given it to her yet and they wouldn't cut an important scene like that out.

 


I thought so much, too ... but if you compare the hairpin she wears and the one he holds after her beating by th eprincess ,,,, it is with orange perls ... looks to me like THE hairpin .... anyhow seams I did not miss it

 

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27 minutes ago, itzibitzispider said:

Watched the 5th ... I need to ask ... might be stupid or useless or I just missed the spot

When did HS get the Butterfly hairpin from WS?
After she delivered the letter or rather emoji to WW she wears the Butterfly-hairpin ....

*confused*

 

They look similar, but it's actually two different hairpins. ^^

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10 minutes ago, akinahana89 said:

 

They look similar, but it's actually two different hairpins. ^^

 

 

Thanx
What a relief ... I thought I missed a crucial scene and am to stupid to know when ;)

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59 minutes ago, Immortal_Angel said:

 

I'm guessing the motivation is probably Hae Soo and I have a feeling that 8th is actually ambition for the throne he's just not showing it yet. The way when he got annoyed when WS said HS is his and 8th replied nobody is his meaning he is possessive so I have a feeling that when HS begins to fall for WS that's what pushed him to probably want to fight for the throne

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maybe they changed 13th and 14th role. cause Lady Hae said HS reminded her of 13th alot so he might fall for HS and his character remind me of 14th in BBJX. 14th so far is too playful and i feel like he's not mature 

 

 

 

 

Your analysis is rational. I see 8th/WW to be possessive of HS so there's a probability that she will still be the cause of the fight. I'm wondering as well, how will she blame herself in the future.. if what happened, happened.. Anyway since the plot is really different from the original, we people that watched the BBJX got to enjoy Moonlovers in completely different experience.

 

I want more, I promised to watch it when subtitle is out, but again I end up watching the episodes 2 to 3 times, from live streaming, without sub and lastly with subs. Haha:heart:

 

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16 minutes ago, mintkiss said:

@akinahana89 correct me if I'm wrong, but 10th is forced to marry the general's daughter I believe...

 

If you're talking about the Mongolian clan with Princess Min Min, she falls in love with 13th Prince, but they don't get married because he doesn't not want to marry her. Later on, her father arranges for her to marry Prince Zuo Ying, which she throws a tantrum over, only to fall in love with him at first sight.

10th Prince marries the lady who pushes Ruo Xi down the stairs. But I think I'm still mistaken. She's not 8th Prince's sister, but 8th Prince's first wife's sister. ^^;

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@bebebisous33 That's an interesting subject. In the trailer Yo stated that the bloodshed happened because of King Taejo's favoritism.. for several reasons, I find his statement fitting.. but not really sure. If he actually does favor one of his child because of affection or just simply because it's the best interest of his kingdom? (him embracing the throne more results being a lousy father) Actually I find him equally cold-blooded to Queen Yoo.. or worst more, at least Queen Yoo is brutally candid on how she despise So. That might be one of the reason why King Taejo sent him to shinju and all, but I can't still shake the main idea that he sent him to shinju because of his face.. if what I read in here was a fact during that during the early era.. that scarred face of So is denied by most and must likely to taint his dynasty.. and as a proud reputable king it's not acceptable..so he neglected him, he gave him away coz that's the only useful thing left that So is capable of.. if only he could cut blood ties, he will.. he'll probably suck out his blood from So, IMO. But then the tides change.. he's now useful to him. A shield to his "beloved?" crown prince, which infuriates me more :angry:

Does he really favored the crown prince because she loves her mother more than the others(if this theory is accurate) or because of the crown prince's star shines the brightest(according to Ji Mong) that'll intensify his legacy. Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to shade him negatively.. for who knows that all the bad-cop-deeds is actually because he just wants the best for his people (I know it's too early for me to judge.. but as of now that's how I have decipher King Taejo)? Then I won't discredit him.. He's a great king-- (but I can't close my eyes, he's horrible as a father). or worst case it's all just to feed his ambition. -- So if ever I was right then this is an up vote for Yo.

Spoiler: This is just me hitting nirvana to pre-occupy myself from getting crazy waiting for episode 6 :sweatingbullets:. Pardon me big time please! (You're free to ignore my absurdity :w00t: HAHAHAHA!) 

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I don't know but I'm kinda caught up with the idea on how the astronomer is behind the time travel or what's the actual reason of the time travel to begin with. I actually came up with a full-of-holes-basis and might be a complete non-sense.. but what if, a complete what if.. Ha Jin is originally from Goryeo's era? I mean what's the use of bringing Ha Jin along with him.. if right now he's a huge influence to King Taejo and to the princes.. I believe by controlling the most powerful piece is enough to engineered things. One more thing if the writer's goal is something like Ji Mong wise words "Your life can't change just because you want it to" that means no matter how Ha Jin as Soo steer the ship it's destination will never change -- what's written in history is bound to happen. Maybe Ha Jin is a real catalyst from Goryeo that wasn't written in history (I think this was already mentioned, pardon me but let me borrow your idea)  and choose to forget because of all the misery and despair, thus reincarnated her in the 21st century as So is actually waiting for her to remember him that might be the reason why she was sent back to Goryeo, to recognize So (in the 21st century)

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7 minutes ago, pwnkl said:

Spoiler: This is just me hitting nirvana to pre-occupy myself from getting crazy waiting for episode 6 :sweatingbullets:. Pardon me big time please! (You're free to ignore my absurdity :w00t: HAHAHAHA!) 

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I don't know but I'm kinda caught up with the idea on how the astronomer is behind the time travel or what's the actual reason of the time travel to begin with. I actually came up with a full-of-holes-basis and might be a complete non-sense.. but what if, a complete what if.. Ha Jin is originally from Goryeo's era? I mean what's the use of bringing Ha Jin along with him.. if right now he's a huge influence to King Taejo and to the princes.. I believe by controlling the most powerful piece is enough to engineered things. One more thing if the writer's goal is something like Ji Mong wise words "Your life can't change just because you want it to" that means no matter how Ha Jin as Soo steer the ship it's destination will never change -- what's written in history is bound to happen. Maybe Ha Jin is a real catalyst from Goryeo that wasn't written in history (I think this was already mentioned, pardon me but let me borrow your idea)  and choose to forget because of all the misery and despair, thus reincarnated her in the 21st century as So is actually waiting for her to remember him that might be the reason why she was sent back to Goryeo, to recognize So (in the 21st century)

 

I just got chills while reading this. It's an amazing "what if" and one that I can actually see, if all the pieces can align together this way. This is why I love this thread! So many ideas, theories, and possibilities! :D

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20 minutes ago, akinahana89 said:

 

If you're talking about the Mongolian clan with Princess Min Min, she falls in love with 13th Prince, but they don't get married because he doesn't not want to marry her. Later on, her father arranges for her to marry Prince Zuo Ying, which she throws a tantrum over, only to fall in love with him at first sight.

10th Prince marries the lady who pushes Ruo Xi down the stairs. But I think I'm still mistaken. She's not 8th Prince's sister, but 8th Prince's first wife's sister. ^^;

 

whoops, I was referring to the k-version 10th prince and the earlier discussion re possible marriage between him and princess yeonghwa. ^^ sorry, I should probably read all pages first before responding XD

but you're right, in the c-version the emperor arranges a marriage between 10th and 8th's first wife's little sister (who yes, pushed RuoXi down the stairs and was her rival in the beginning of the story lol)

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