[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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14 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

Yeah, it was okay during Goryeo times. Aside of being an adaptation of the chinesse novel, this drama is also based on the Wang Royal Family who where korean historical figures. We searched about the historical figures and that's why we know the different princes had royal intermarriages with her sisters, nieces, etc. Not only one…many. But that's history, and the drama is different. History is already altered to present a love story. 

Welcome to the thread. 

 

1st time i heard that  during those days you can marry your siblings  ..  it happened during Goryeo?    maybe i should watch more sageuks

 

[Niki Azia 5,307]

actually i'm no idea & not understand. almost Korean drama fans can't accept SH got a very poor rating (even it's just a number) from a few boring drama & didn't attracted people. compared with SH, this drama not only so good but very2 hits outside of Korean too. why it's happen to SH drama? 

 

 

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I love reading everyone insights!! It adds meaning and colour ti watching the show. 

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I like how the script let us down for the soo and wook relationship... Afterall it has been a build up for 5 eps. The most important line for me was lady hae saying both wook and soo were FOOLS. I inferred that she has approached wook abt this again and his reply was lady hae was his wife and thats it. I dont think he would deny his feelings for hae soo but rather focus on his wife. 

I felt that this was a good script as lady hae can leave this world at peace knowing both closest to her honoured her despite their feelings and also despite her support for them. This is extremely important... Can u imagine they got together infront of her in her last moments even if it is just to show her? I wouldnt bare to watch the show. I like lady hae. 

also thanks to 13th... The boundaries are iron clad. From now on we can surmised the 8th will be the one hankering for hae soo but she would have moved on... 

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5 hours ago, lavender2love said:

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Hi @MadraRua ...Your bringing back the snow scene from BBJX just jolted me..... and then the snow scene from MLSH transported me back to Goreyeo times. Only the pure white snow is the common factor .  From the very first episode of  ML, I have decided that it is perilous to make a parallel of the 2 dramas. Got to watch ML in a very Korean context, ( BBJX is history steeped , the Palace is a place of intrigues and is deadly. You don't mess with Emperor Kangxi. Rouxi is incomparable ) MLSH ( sorry to hurt anyone's feelings, is feather weight light. The name Scarlet Heart shouldn't be named in the same breath... vast difference in so many areas. Personal opinion only so hold your horses .... < dodging missiles >

I've to knock my head to remind me to watch it as a Korean drama. J  U  S  T    W  A  T  C  H     IT.... and enjoy it as an entertaining drama, with all it's impressive cinematography, pretty pretty looks, closeups of the same pretty pretty boys which are breathtaking . Korean film makers are so good at making dramas which enthrall using all the tropes to captivate. Even the OST kills. Has this drama hit the roof yet? It is under rated methinks. 

Oh, since I'm here to support LJK .... let me wave to @willenette. Your boy is shattering hearts...  Someone just posted this. (my first drama of him ) But..but ..but.. why is he looking like The Phantom Of The Opera ? His looks is wasted here or perhaps it's to give it an aura of mystery and mask his potential ability to destroy his enemies in a flash. Hail to the future King.

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Hi lavender2love, so NICE to know & I'm glad that you are watching & love this drama. Thanks for supporting - as you said - my boy, your 1st first exposure to Lee jun ki… He is indeed making many hearts shattered. And soon...............I guess, yours, too - hahaha. You'll be drawn to him instantly. He really puts emotion into his characters to any roles he plays. But, I couldn't agree with you more - "his look is wasted here" since he's wearing a face mask. He is - so identity is easy to hide. But, LJK looks great with the mask. This drama looks promising. The story started out strong. The martial arts are loads of fun to watch. KHN seems like a nice guy but only time will tell. So many characters here that ahh.....it is so difficult to remember their names. I like the OST. I wonder will Lee Joon Ki contribute to the soundtrack. 

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The incestuous relationship also happened between Pharaohs...I read a fiction once based on the facts..it sure is quite uncomfortable to get used to..lol.But what's interesting is that it's still allowed in some other countries..but let's not get into that.Though this will be not much a bother later cause So would only have eyes for Suu lol .Also the evil brother sort of has taken a likeliness to YH...so So has got a competition there. 

@MadraRua Thanks for the spoiler on Cha Ryung.Wow that was quite shocking for real. I do hope So gets two or three notch down in terms of his killing spree ..It's not a pleasant view watching his face all blooded and he declaring it out to whoever affront lol.As a lot have already talked about ...I too find the editing a bit abrupt since it's hard to see him in a light or comic conversation [with either Suu or the brothers].. after he is the one sending people in a panic mode. But still after all scarlet looks alright to me as I've not seen the original before. It helps to start on a fresh ground without any expectations.On a different note, both moonlight and moon lovers are good at their own terms.It's just wrong how media are sending these two off to a heated war for their own benefits lol.Both are quality dramas and would have share of audience who have different taste in shows.

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I'm completely enamored by this drama. I'm terribly sad for the show's low ratings. However, I do understand Moonlight Drawn by the Clouds appeal (because I watch that too). 

But I find Haesoo endearing, and the 10th, 13th, and 14th princes adorable. The 4th and 8th are both so swoon-worthy that I don't know what to do with myself. I've been re-watching every episode multiple times because I enjoy them so much. I've been harassing my parents and a few friends to watch it. I haven't been very successful with friends, but my dad is watching it. Huzzah!

Usually, I abhor Mondays, but this show makes me crazy for the weekend to end so I can watch more!! <3 

The end of episode 5 was so heartbreaking. ;_; I'm anxious to find out how Haesoo, 8th, and 13th cope with the loss. ;_;

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55 minutes ago, solelylurking said:

I apologized for IU's fans who feel offended but sometimes I want to dream a delusional one. Is it not allowed anymore? Geez...

I think you misunderstood the tone of her comment. We are in forums and tone when we are not using emoticons or emojis is more easy to be misunderstood.  There is no way someone can be offended.  Is totally normal when people ship characters and also the actors in real life because of a drama… it happens all the time to a lot of people and is pretty normal, for some the experience is more enjoyable that way. Is okay. I understand what @matchacake tried to say thinking if that ever happens is not the right time because of IU's crazy dedicated antis, but it was just a thought. I don't feel it was something personal towards you.  Well, that's what I think and I am hoping not being wrong.  My opinion is that you are allowed to daydream all what you want. Feel free to do that. \^0^/ 

@ossy91 I was confused because of those screen caps. Wang So had a similar scene in the first teaser where he hurt himself. Right?  

@valentvcd I was like you the first 5 episodes but after them, that look was totally normal in my eyes... and 9th, 13th and 14th were really handsome to me, even without hair haha.

@briseis Thank you for the gifs! And recaps! \^0^/

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I don't know if this scene was filmed and then left out or if it didn't get shot at all, but in an early version of the scripts that had been leaked, there was a scene right before Chae Ryung was beaten by the princess and her maidens. It shows how a bond forms between Baek Ah (13th) and So and hints at So's mettle for kingship. Basically, Prince 3 (Yo) insults Prince 13 (Baek Ah) as Baek Ah's mother is from the royal family of the fallen dynasty of Silla. So subtly comes to Baek Ah's defense, and they walk together. This is why they appear together when So comes to the rescue when Soo is being beaten by the princess.

The following is a rough translation of the scene:

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Prince 3: I called you all here because His Majesty has starved the camel that was sent as a gift by the Khitans to death. Petitions are flying in from all ranks of court officials. We should do something to support His Majesty.

Prince 14: (Unhappy) They're so afraid of having a war with the puny Khitans. Those pathetic figureheads need to be offed first.

Prince 10: By the way, did the camel really die? I guess it takes quite a few days for it to starve to death... Now that it's happened, they should just distribute its meat to the starving people.

Prince 9: Nonsense! We might have a war domestically! Ever since the Khitans stopped bringing in horses, the price of horses has gone through the roof! We can't have war without horses for the army.

Prince 10: I believe you're talking about horses for racing, not the army. For your betting.

Prince 9: (Menacing look)

Prince 8: We must support His Majesty as he looks into improving our diplomatic relation with Later Jin as we burned our bridge with the Khitans. This is a good chance to change the direction of our diplomatcy.

Prince 13: The Khitans destroyed Balhae. As we come from the same ancestry as Balhae, of course we should cut ties with the Khitans.

Prince 3: Take a huge loss just for the sake of a ruined kingdom? (Looking at Prince 13) As if Silla wasn't enough, now even Balhae? Sure, we may come from the same ancestors. They're basically like distant relatives that are dirt poor and try to mooch off of you.

Prince 13: (Clenches his fists, but can't say anything) ...

Prince 4: You're right, brother 3. 

Prince 3: (Surprised)

Prince 4: However, whether the owner of the treasury decides to offer some of the wealth to the poor relatives or to feed to the dogs, it's all up to the owner. Instead of just exchanging empty words here without being able to voice anything in front of the actual owner of the treasury, why don't we just go take a look at the dead camel? As 10th brother said, let's see if it's edible at all. Baek Ah, shall we go?

Prince 13: (Stands up hastily) Yes, let's do that, Brother.

As Princes 4 and 13 leave, Prince 8 smiles as he drinks tea.

Prince 3: (Clenches the teacup and shudders) That insolent buffoon.

Prince 10: (To Prince 9) See! Even Brother 4 wants to know if camel meat is edible.

Prince 9: (Shut up!! Nudging)

Prince 14: (Looks at his brothers, worried)

 

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Princes 4 and 13 are walking.

Prince 13: Thank you, Brother.

Prince 4: No need to thank me; I don't help people. I just hate the attitude of sucking up to those with power and oppressing the weak. 

Prince 13: (Bitter) You become a commoner or a slave based on your mother's station... Even though I'm treated as a prince, I'm no different from a slave. Even though we all have the same father, our stations are so different.

Prince 4: ...if you were a slave and not a prince, you wouldn't have had to serve your father as the owner of the treasury. At least you don't have to worry about when you might have your next meal. Take that as a consolation.

Prince 13: (Looks at Prince 4 with fresh eyes. Feels a little closer to him)

They get closer to each other as they continue walking.

 

This excerpt is written in a tone that is very different from the episodes we've seen so far. The lines sound more Sageuk-like and the vocabulary used is way more advanced than what is actually spoken in the drama. So I can understand that the scripts may have been totally revamped before they started shooting and that this scene may have been cut out totally. I just hope that they'll include enough scenes in the future that show more about how So prepares himself to be king... 

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Wow guys!!! I've been out of the loop for less than 24 hrs and you guys already added more than 10 pages! I can't keep up! Haha! I love your enthusiasm for SH! 

 

OK,  can someone please tell me where you got the gif of HS removing WS's Mask?  Did it come from a teaser? And are we gonna see it next week? Can you please give me the source? Sorry, I have too many questions but its just because I'm so excited about the relationship development between WS and HS!!!!! That scene is just so precious, seeing WS let HS remove his mask shows how much he's opening up to her. Compared to the scene where YH was trying to touch his face and he shied away, I'm just so happy for our 4TH PRINCE!!!

And I'm also really confused about the horse riding scene at the ep5 preview. I clearly saw WW riding the horse but are there clips of WS too? I'mean going crazy, IU is so lucky huhuhuhu

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13 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

 

@valentvcd I was like you the first 5 episodes but after them, that look was totally normal in my eyes... and 9th, 13th and 14th were really handsome to me, even without hair haha.

 

@Gabi Bros HAHAHAA..... LOL... I hope so.. it is few days already and still can't get over it.... try again right now..

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12 minutes ago, kimmistalks said:

OK,  can someone please tell me where you got the gif of HS removing WS's Mask?  Did it come from a teaser? And are we gonna see it next week? Can you please give me the source?

Yes, is an scene of the 6 min preview released some time ago. It is not next week.

You can watch it HD (1080) here: http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1071209

 

[junee22 3,693]

Busy at life...and there were already 10 pages to catch up!!! okay..I'm going to skip to last page.. . Last night, I rewatched MLSHR from first ep to ep 4 in a row..not watch ep 5 (not ready for the roller coaster yet lol) and when I watched it again..I think the actors/actresses did very well..but yes LJG sets a very high bar to acting so for some junior actors/actresses in this drama,even though they acted very well,bcoz of LJGs acting skill their acting could look average. I'm sure with more eps to come their acting could improve. And I can see,pieces by pieces,little by little..how HS actually suppressed her feelings for WW. I'm not good at putting it into beautiful words..so I'll give it to you friends to do that..hehehehe.

And I just love LJGs fighting scenes..he really looks awesome when doing that..(I hope he could be the next Samurai X -- if there's gonna be one  ) LJG really put much efforts for this role..I mean this kind of drama needs deep chemistry between the characters,a very deep understanding for the roles,and a very good research to the history. And I think not only LJG did that but also all of his co-stars at this drama. Well,maybe it's a matter of experience in acting fields that made a diff.(LJGs been in this industry for 15 yrs now..while some of the actors only had a couple of years,but many pros actors too in this drama besides him). Yes,KHNs acting are very good too..but he didn't do those fighting scenes himself simply bcoz he's not there yet (in my opinion). I'm sure later,with more time passes,if he did well like LJG,then he could become like LJG. Good in acting skills,also fighting skills, and all skills needed to do a good acting. KHN had a very good potential,as a lot of actors in this drama (Jisoo,NJH,IU,Baekhyun..though I think that the later would focus more in singing field).

Oh..when I mentioned before about the wrong translation of Qing dynasty (WE and HS dialogue scenes ep4),I'm very glad to know that actually Baekhyun/WE said JIN ...so glad that the production team really did a research..(so it's right when I said China is in the era of 5 dynasties & 10 kingdoms). Hope everyone who didn't interested in this show could see all of the potential that MLSHR had,so they can love this drama as we all do. Can't wait for the next Monday..yayyy..it's already Thursday!!

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I am so excited for the scene where Hae Soo removes So's mask. Like So stated in Ep 5 he isn't looking for someone of high value (i.e. has power) but someone who will treasure him and someone who would not be concerned with the scar he has on his face. Soo definitely fits the description I mean he probably had her in mind when he said that. 

The mask removal scene is symbolic of So's acceptance of himself and that he no longer has to hide behind a mask. The scar on his face is a constant reminder of the lack of love and acceptance from his mother and those around him. Her action of removing his mask is a final push for him to realise that he has a worth and that no matter the flaws in his physical appearance it is all the intangible things that draw her to him. Soo is his anchor. She makes him happy and keeps him sane. She shows him what being loved and cared for feels like and that wanting to live is not a crime but a right.

My gosh after writing this I think I've become a So/Soo shipper but I know once I see Soo and Wook interact I'm gonna get swayed again 어떡해. I can't wait why is it not Monday already?!?

 

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13 minutes ago, kimmistalks said:

Wow guys!!! I've been out of the loop for less than 24 hrs and you guys already added more than 10 pages! I can't keep up! Haha! I love your enthusiasm for SH! 

 

OK,  can someone please tell me where you got the gif of HS removing WS's Mask?  Did it come from a teaser? And are we gonna see it next week? Can you please give me the source? Sorry, I have too many questions but its just because I'm so excited about the relationship development between WS and HS!!!!! That scene is just so precious, seeing WS let HS remove his mask shows how much he's opening up to her. Compared to the scene where YH was trying to touch his face and he shied away, I'm just so happy for our 4TH PRINCE!!!

And I'm also really confused about the horse riding scene at the ep5 preview. I clearly saw WW riding the horse but are there clips of WS too? I'mean going crazy, IU is so lucky huhuhuhu

You can find that scene in the long preview of SHR (the duration is around 6 minutes and the scene of HS taking off WS's mask is near the end of the clip).

As for ep 6 preview, we are guessing that WS and WW may work together to help HS get rid of the marriage she is forced into. It may be their plan to let the real HS run away with WS when WW is taking a decoy with him to distract the guards.

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am trying to back read but cant catch up fast enough.

@solelylurking I fully understand the feeling of falling in love with the characters and wanting to ship the couples. I do so fall in love with some drama characters madly. Its always nice for co-actors to like each other so that the chemistry on screen will be good. I think part of the success of some recent dramas like dots is due in a part to actors who are single in life and viewers can ship all they want.

I just want to say to view any actor as being in love with a co-star so that they act very well in the show, is somehow abit of a discredit to the director's editing and an actor's acting abilities. KHN is a really talented actor, I saw him in Misaeng and abit in Empire of Lust and he look just like the character he is supposed to portray. In both shows, he was a villain. Considering he has debut for 10 years and his extensive training in theatre, his accumulated experience is quite substantial. From the Scarlet hearts interviews, when I compare them to his 8th prince character, his real life character seems very different, which shows his awesome ability to morph into anything. 

Certainly we can still ship the characters together, but seriously, kissing, hugging and holding hands is par for norm and part of an actor's job. They dont see it the same way as us daily people.  

I am not saying they dont like each other as friends, but for IU, I can see that despite being surrounded by a bunch of goodlooking hot bods and handsome guys, she doesnt seems the least affected, she didnt giggle, talk nonsense, act coy or flirt with any of them (unfortunately) in the cosmopolitan interview, photoshoot or bts. She answer her questions clearly and smoothly without being arrogant nor being too humble. Seems like she has a clear head on her shoulders, which is quite incredible for her age. 

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Thursday morning n wondering when Monday will come 

Lee joon GI looks so good as Wang So. Although he said he felt too old to play a Prince role, I don't thk he looks old at all. Will miss seeing him in historical dramas. Hope he gets casted in a good modern drama for 2017 just as he wished

They both look good if mangastyle. In fact I always thought LJG with his jawbone n beautiful side profile looks like a manhwa character

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Why I am impatient to see more WS & HS and rooting for them?

1. WS is such a dark character with such tragic past. His parents are worse than having no parents at all. In my book he needs real love the most

2. HS being odd and different from other ladies in Goryeo needs someone who understands her and accepts her. So far WS fulfils that

3. HS despite the initial fear aft WS threatens to kill her was not repulsed by his scar or afraid of him to speak her mind

4. HS did not judge WS even though she heard many rumours of him being barbaric

5. HS doesn't treat him as an animal. Even when she saw him unleashing his anger on the piles of stones with blood of those he killed all over him, she was understanding. She knew he didn't enjoy it and that it also comes with the burden on being Prince

6. HS treats him as a person and would do simple things like talking about the stars. Just a simple conversation. How long ago was it when someone speaks to him with no bad intentions, malice or disdain?

7. HS is comfortable to really talk to WS. She even confesses she is more afraid of herself than him. He is also a good listener and does not comment or judge her

8. For someone who appeared heartless and generally does not bother about other people's well-being, WS interfered to save her. Once from YH's whipping, next In the forest. And soon we will see in ep6 to save her from marrying off 

9. WS understands HS enough to interpret her "poem" \^0^/

10. HS has seen his vulnerability multiple times including the last of hearing his mother's disdain. She knows so much more about him than others 

11. HS does not care for social status. And WS in last Ep said to YH he didn't care for a woman of status or power too

12. In many ways I was oso wondering is HS Wang So's first real friend other than astronomer?

 

I thk I might have missed out sth. Cause really the list is building nice and long for how much I thk Wang So and Hae Soo belong together 

 

 

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1 hour ago, ossy91 said:

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Something happen with haesoo next week ??? 

 

 

 

Oh god that delicate hand is Haesoo's hand  what is she doing? Is she trying to get out of that arranged marriage and come back to future by suicide

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2 hours ago, elviraxxx said:

 

Sorry for cutting your post.

I kinda believe that YH likes So. She and So have the same father, but different moms... and So was adopted/exiled with the Kangs family. So yeah, they are basically siblings. 

Gee, bet it is so complicated to live in those times, because siblings and cousins marry each other. Not only in Goryeo, I think. Some European monarch did the same thing in the past in order to protect the throne from outsiders. 

 

Hey @elviraxxx, I also thought that YH genuinely likes WS during the first 4 episodes but the convo that YH and WY had about WS makes me think that she is only using WS for political reasons and entertainment. This convo just made me really angry because they were referring to WS as an animal. when in fact they're the ones acting like animals. 

YH is on another level of evil though, because even WY was taken aback at YH's thought of "taming" WS. Every episode I just hate her more >.<

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Youku view count is now at 581,318,777.

 

This is crazy. That's more than 100 million since 6-7 hours ago!

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10 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@skxz I also think like @MadraRua. Wang So is for me ship to sail for many reasons:

- the way he was introduced (he is represented by the raising sun). So the first scene illustrates his future. 

- but the way he interacts with Hae Soo.

Not only he helped her in the woods (the incident with Wang Jung) and the beating, he also stopped her from slapping the prince Wang Eun. Everyone was watching the scene but it could have become dangerous for Hae Soo, if she hadn't been stopped as Wang Eun could have got more than a blue eye. If she had slapped him, she would have humiliated him as prince. The entire time, Wang Wook was watching the whole scene and didn't intervene. After her action, Hae Soo is confronted with harsh reality. She must face the king's punishment. Wang Wook's position couldn't save her. Wang So helped her indirectly, when he stopped her. In my opinion, Wang Wook has been raised too much by biding to the rules and customs so that he would expect from Hae Soo (if she was his wife) to act like lady Hae. However, Hae Soo comes from the 21st century and her sense of justice and moral is totally different. She is for equity and doesn't like the hierarchy system in that society. Wang Wook has learnt from early on that his duty is to protect his family, so that he has always to think about his family first therefore he will never put Hae Soo first. Sure, he asked her through the poem about her feelings, yet I had the impression, he would have kept their situation unchanged: flirting next to his wife. I don't think, he would have ever asked to marry Hae Soo since she doesn't come from a powerful family like lady Hae.  I know, lady Hae wanted him to marry her cousin, however she did that because she knew that she was dying. From my point of view, Hae Soo will be depressed after her cousin's death so that the princes will try to cheer her up. Even Wang Wook won't be able to do it himself first, because he is as devastated as Hae Soo first. He will feel guilty and only after a certain time, he will be able to approach Hae Soo again, yet this will be already too late. First, Hae Soo can't accept his feelings any longer (she feels that she had betrayed her only friend and family member), secondly Yeon Hwa has already arranged the marriage for her so that she can get rid of Hae Soo who seems to attract many princes.

@bebebisous33 As always chingu, you always see what I miss. You were so right Wang Wook did love his wife. I agree Hae Soo belongs with Wang So because with him she doesn't have to pretend and he will cherish her more than any of the princes there. Baek Ha and Eun will cherish and love her as family. They will be loyal to her til the end of the drama. She will play the role of helping them finding their true mates and be very happy.  I agree Wang Wook will never abandon those ideals and responsibilities for her because of how he was raised.  Your right He would have never married her but he would have taken her as a concubine and that would have offended Hae Soo. I believe once she falls for Wang So she would do anything for him because her love for him would be much much deeper and true. True love is loving that person faults and all, nothing would come between them.