[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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Ah yes, I like yeon he's dimples, as someone mentioned  sorry, am liking all the evil things 

Yep, I am pretty sure the Prince numbering are according to age and birth order. 5, 6, 7 could be missing becos they died young or whatever. Infant mortality rate is high back then. C version has a part when a young 18th Prince died.

Seohyun's character is appearing next week as i see in the preview.

Am looking forward to that becos I kind of like 13th, he has talent as an artist and is steadfast in his views. Right now, 9th is a side kick for the evil 3rd and 10th seems naive, 14th is a spoilt brat inviting trouble. So besides 4th n 8th, only 13th seems a dependable man.

That said, I miss Wang So like crazy.

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Just my twocents in regards of Wook and Soo.. I have not watch episode 5 yet, so my insights covers only until episode 4. What I see towards Wook's feelings over Soo started similarly as Eun's cheosarang (Although I'm pretty sure it's So's cheotsarang too ).. Of all the princes, Wook is the only prince that's been molded to have the qualities of a ruler, nope he was more likely forged by destiny(to be whom he is now). Indeed he's a very calculative man to the point that he seems like he imprisoned his true self. At first I thought, he had this ambition to take on the throne.. for I think he's well aware of all the treachery that occurs in the palace and who's behind it.. but he's not doing anything, to make it simple I don't really know whats his real agenda (but my guts tells me that he's staying still just to keep the status quo of his household, he no matter what doesn't want to jeopardize what he has now). I view Wook in a positive light.. and so far I'm not betrayed yet. He revealed that he first have taken a life at a very age to defend her mother, as much as I empathize with So.. I do think Wook is carrying a fair-sized cross as well, I take his personality, a real gentleman-respective-that-greatly-values-manner, as someone who dearly love his family and would do anything to protect it even if it means shutting down himself.. and I was rest assured when he firmly refuses YH. At first I really thought that Wook loves his wife.. in the eyes of a commoner like myself.. I was deceived. Now that their marriage relationship had been unfolded, it is no doubt a marriage of convenience, however it's not an all ill-marriage-arrangement. He accepted the marriage to revamp his family status thus to protect them, but since he's a good man, he's forever grateful to her(wife).. that sums up on how he acts so warm yet so cold. I believe Soo is Wook's cheotsarang, same reason as Eun's.. she's the first who acts out of the norm and somehow sees through a "bit" of him.. definitely that'll take your attention and later progresses into affection. but I never took Wook's cheotsarang lightly as Eun's. Wook is definitely a mature man that pretty much experience life.. he knows fear, pain and loneliness and just now experiencing the tenderness of love, of looking forward to someone that warms his heart that also brings joy. Episode 4, the scene where Chae Ryeong notify him about Soo's situation, he abruptly stands and hurriedly went off to rescue Soo with just his horse and not a single weapon in hand.. He acted like a desperate man charging in just to see if she's safe and that's totally out of his character.. as it follows he can't contain his feelings and cries it out. With that I'm really convinced that Wook had deeply fallen in love with Soo. Unfortunately IMO as for Soo, I don't think it's the same.. Fondness?, yes I think.. for the reason that Wook's persona in her eyes is a text-book-prince-charming-fairy-tale.. He's gentle to everyone, man.. full of manners, someone who helps her a lot, someone that shows her compassion, someone that she rely on to.. in a place that she's in unaccustomed. Although I'm not closing doors.. Wook is lovable and as of now he's making his move tho it's restraint in the moment.. and it's a fact that Soo's wavering. However, Soo's eyes were set only in his(Wook) gloss unlike with So, she's well aware that this guy is heavily messed up and is no longer afraid of So's claws and fangs..she's also unaware that she's already sharing her emotions and opening up (as Ha Jin) to So. Meanwhile towards Wook yes she share something too but it's mainly the displeasure and complaints within the unaccustomed place (Goryeo's 10th century era) . In her relationship with Wook she's just receiving.. on the other hand she's the one who's giving (with So) and it won't take long until So begins to give back. As I said I'm not closing doors, however there's a certain reason that slight opening is hopeless.. and that is.. Soo will never reciprocate his feelings.. Soo is Ha Jin; a modern woman in the 20th century, she's got her own principle and let's not forget that her life got messed up because of betrayal in the realms of love.. loving him back means, swallowing her principles and be sentenced to guilt forever.. sorry but I don't see it happening. * omg I'm sorry my poor wook  * 

PS. I'm sorry my post is pretty long, but I wanted to take this chance to talk about no to appreciate Wook coz I can feel that I'll be spazzing over So and Soo in the upcoming episodes  I'm really lagging behind .. off to watch episode 5. Good Night, Eclipse  and BTW I'm loving all the GIFs keep it rolling  (Tumblr here I come )

 

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1 hour ago, wchoi8 said:

Any thoughts on the astronomer Jimong? Do you guys think he also traveled back to the past with Hajin?

 

59 minutes ago, Yippeuni said:

I think he is a time traveler too...his conversation with Hae Soo implied he know as much as Hae Soo suspect...maybe he is there to be Hae Soo fairy godfather???

Because the king and Moo trust him so well, and he play a huge part in every king taejon decision, and he help Wang Soo a lot to gte him inside the palace again. And in future I really think JM also will chip in in every Wang Soo act toward Hae Soo. 

 

 

Yes, i think so too, based on Choi Ji Mong's character description here

 

i think he is a time traveler  *struggling as he is lost between keeping a secret a maintaining a humanistic attachment, and nobody knows why*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I guess he already realized where Haesoo came from when they finally met in the palace, but all he could do was just subtly tell her to be careful. This guy is really wary and well aware of the dangerous situation they could get into if they keep talking about their true identity.

Choi Ji Mong is a truly wild card here. His character reminds me of The Wizard in BBJX Scarlet Heart C-version movie who helped Ruoxi get back to the future, both Ji Mong and The Wizard aren't original character from novel but PD-nim put they in as the main heroine Haesoo/ Ruoxi's fairy godfather.

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Okay...
All I can think of after watching the last episode:

Myung Hee-eonni, it's nice of her, for the sake of plot, to let 8th and HS meet. But at the same time it breaks my heart that she voluntarily lets her husband to consider taking another wife and to arrange the meeting personally 

I feel like cheating saying this, because I love LJK, but Kang Ha Neul really got a game with this episode. The last scene tugs my heartstrings. 

There are few K-actors that have beautiful crying scenes, and lesser K-actors that can make me having an ugly cry while watching them crying. To mention a few:
1. Kim Soo Hyun in Moon Embraces the Sun, everytime he reminds of the supposed-dead wife and when he finds out that the one plotting to kill his wife is his own kin.
2. Hyun Bin in Secret Garden, when he writes a letter to Gil Ra Im/Ha Ji Won before driving through the storm and put himself in self-inducing comma.
3. Park Bo Gum in Reply 1988, when he confesses.
and now, 
4. Kang Ha Neul, the last scene of ep. 5; when he piggybacks his sickly wife and the snow is falling and she dies in his arms and he cries...

Excuse me for a moment, I need some kleenex 

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2 hours ago, anzhe said:

The face of the girl riding with WW is hidden, maybe a decoy so the real one can escape?

Brilliant!  I'm thinking you're absolutely correct....  Brava...

1 hour ago, ktcjdrama said:

Moon Lovers -- I wonder how this title came about. How are they going to be connected by the moon... at least we are shown that WS-HS both appreciate the moon and stars in Goryeo. Will the moon play a role in transporting GHJ back? and maybe hopefully WS too?

Great insight.  At first I thought the "Moon Lovers" title was a tribute to the drama's Chinese origin but then it must have some significance in the Chinese culture so I read an article about the Moon Festival and the Lady of the Moon.  Long story short, the Lady of the Moon is the wife of a hero who saved the Earth from drought and the people from death by shooting down 9 of 10 suns.  Rewarded with an elixir of immortality, he gives this to his wife for safekeeping but while he's away a neighbor comes to steal it and the wife swallows the elixir, immediately becoming a goddess where she resides on the Moon, since its closest to Earth where she can continue to watch over her husband.  Okay, so that's the mythology.  I'm reading all kinds of possibilities into this as I am sure my insightful and creative Soompi colleagues here are as well... too many to go into right now. That said, there is another possibility.  An eclipse occurs when the Moon completely covers the Sun.  HS time travels during an eclipse.  She "enters" Goryeo when the Moon is stronger than (blacks out) the Sun.  The eclipse "brings" her, she is a de facto Lady of the Moon.  If we continue with the mythology, HS's husband will be a hero who saves the land and the people and HS will be his greatest love and protector.

1 hour ago, qwenli said:

it was a very big issue not to have children, (in fact the influential Confucius said that not having children is the no.1 on the list of failing to be filial becos the bloodline cannot be continued) and lady hae clearly is not able to fulfill her role. So arranging for her husband to get another concubine is par for norm.

Greetings... yes, this is true.  However, I think for the purposes of this drama what we're supposed to see in the scene is the selfless, self-sacrificing love Lady Hae has for WW.  I say this also because according to what we saw in Ep. 5, WW's family was banished from the city and it was Lady Hae's family who made them acceptable again.  I think we're also supposed to see that Lady Hae, and probably everyone else, thought her love was one-sided and that WW doesn't realie what his feelings for her are until she is dying and, even then, she doesn't want to hear his declaration of love.  For WW, Lady Hae is like his Moon Lady, raining down blessings on him from a place far above him and wanting nothing in return.  I'm thinking since WW had his Moon Lady, our adorable little HS will become a Moon Lady for our dashing and damaged hero WS.

Now, if I were to apply say, Shakespeare, to the above scenario, I would say that "Moon Lovers" is the equivalent of saying "star-crossed lovers" or "lovers who were never meant to be", heroic but tragic lovers.

 

 

 

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How could they give us such a roller coaster of an episode? Laughing until I cry one minute and crying until I laugh the next. And to think... a whole week's worth of wait now. T_T

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1 hour ago, junee22 said:

@irilight as much as I want to write a comment on dramefever..I faced an obstacle..dramafever isn't allowed at my country  ..I need to sign up but I couldn't bcoz of that..as for the other site related to Korea..I don't know the subs/writings..so it's kinda made me feel frustrated (coz google translate can't help in some words *sigh* ) Anyway...maybe you could enlighten me? Just want to help this drama to be appreciated more by the natives fellows in SK..(although it's getting more and more positive feedback and I'm happy for the production team  )

@junee22, oh, bummer. Thank you for trying 
yes, I think DF is more restricted to some geographical areas but I am not sure which they are.
Maybe U.S, Canada. I think they recently started in Australia too.
Can you not even click on awesome? What a shame.

Well, we can all still help the drama by watching as much as possible on Naver, and Korean media....

 

source: AsiaToday

source:  TV Daily

Below are some BTS and clips video from Naver. If we all watch consistently on Naver, it would help the show.

Even better, if you sign up for Naver (I signed with FB, it only takes a minute), and then you can also "like" the videos by clicking on the heart symbols

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1097615

 

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1097164

 

This scene had me tearing.
Not only his wife's dying, but the fact 8th Prince never got to say the words that he loved her....

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1097179

 

 

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39 minutes ago, uuugogirl said:

Yes, i think so too, based on Choi Ji Mong's character description here

i think he is a time traveler  *struggling as he is lost between keeping a secret a maintaining a humanistic attachment, and nobody knows why*

And I guess he already realized where Haesoo came from when they finally met in the palace, but all he could do was just subtly tell her to be careful. This guy is really wary and well aware of the dangerous situation they could get into if they keep talking about their true identity.

Choi Ji Mong is a truly wild card here. His character reminds me of The Wizard in BBJX Scarlet Heart C-version movie who helped Ruoxi get back to the future, both Ji Mong and The Wizard aren't original character from novel but PD-nim put they in as the main heroine Haesoo/ Ruoxi's fairy godfather.

 

Aha... I found that Choi Ji Mong Character cute yet mysterious ...

Maybe that's why he recomended to Crown Prince that he need WS to replace Him where the ritual begin.. 

Because he know that WS need to stay at the palace.. 

 

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This is cute! 

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1 hour ago, Gabi Bros said:

Yes...i feel the same. Haesoo having guilt thoughts is okay because Lady Hae has been really nice to her and she has modern times mentality...but Wook behaving like that? Those were other times in which men had many women without guilt.  They are making almost all the princes look and behave like virgins waiting for their first love to knock the door.  The younger ones are between 15 and 18? Mmm...maybe they are still young...i was forgetting that. But I don't think we will see polygamy in the drama even if the years passed, aside of Taejo with his 29 wifes. 

 

I got the impression that HS was mostly oblivious to WW's affection and thought of it as him being kind to her, and that the guilt that she felt was from her finding out that everyone knew about her one-sided crush...including her beloved cousin, and that the appearance as that they were flaunting their flirting in front of her cousin (which they were) with out her really knowing about it.  Much like she was oblivious that her friend was dating her boyfriend in the 21st century. 

As for Wook I get his guilt...his wife loved him and didn't condone his behavior with HS, heck she encouraged it. Even with the SoCal norms at the time, I would think that would add pressure no matter how understanding your wife acts like she is. I also think his guilt was due to the heavy debt that he had to her. She brought his family about of exile. She used her family power to get him back into the good graces of his own family...and most likely the money to get back there too. And in his pious belief that they could live as close comfortable friends, he falls in love with the one other person that his wife Loves as a daughter.

and I know that polygamy was a cultural norm...even incest, but this is a drama, and they are trying to reinforce their perceived notions of morality right now...which is to show viewer that if there is anything but the purest of love with only the the greatest of sacrifices, that love will be tarnished and you will have a horrible family. And possibly die, or loose your memory. Them the rules...

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ok the good news is ratings of ep 5 is slightly, tiny weeny higher than ep 4.  whereas for the other two dramas in the same time slot, their numbers slight decrease for Tuesday eps.

 

ep five - 6 % versus ep four - 5.7%, an increase of 0.3%

ok, I welcome whatever increase, no matter how tiney, weeney. 

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1 minute ago, qwenli said:

ok the good news is ratings of ep 5 is slightly, tiny weeny higher than ep 4.  whereas for the other two dramas in the same time slot, their numbers slight decrease for Tuesday eps.

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ep five - 6 % versus ep four - 5.7%, an increase of 0.3%

ok, I welcome whatever increase, no matter how tiney, weeney. 

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An increase, no matter how small, is always good news. SHR, fighting! ^^

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1 hour ago, dede257 said:

Long time kdrama lover but first time poster here . This is possibly an "out there" theory, but could there be a chance that Hae Soo's arranged marriage could be with the Kang clan?  Perhaps as a gesture of goodwill since the King has taken back their adopted son?  This may explain Wang So's (4th prince) utter concern about Hae Soo's nuptials since they mistreated him so badly.  Just a thought.  

 

I totally had the same thought! If this is true, then no wonder the two leads banded together on her "kidnapping"

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Hello Chinggus! Joining here. I watched BBJX and was left depressed for a week. But now a new one..  I must say I'm totally loving scarlet heart kversion. It's different in a way but it just grows in me haha.

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Good afternoon Eclipses(did I get the name right? ) I couldn't help crying a bunch for episode 5. It was such a roller-coaster ride, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to feel now that WW is free.  Listening to Davichi's Forgetting You(on loop) isn't helping at all. Episode 4 had heartbreaking scenes too but episode five made me cry the most, and we're not even half-way through the drama. Imagine when we're at the climax of it all. The conflict, the confusion, the pain. Is it going to be worst than this? 

I realized in episode 4 how relate-able HS/GHJ is. I mean, I studied historical figures since intermediate to tertiary level. But if I'm transported into time, I'll know they're rendered "legendary" in modern times, but I wouldn't have a clue how things happened, who was contemporary with who. I wouldn't even get myself all bothered about it, since I have a carefree personality. I'll go with the flow, as long as it doesn't get me killed, and doesn't impact the future in an awful way.

Watching mainly saeguks I noticed that it was the norm to marry a couple of weeks after a mistress/madaam of the household dies especially for those who hold certain position in the kingdom/government(not sure during this era tho, it was like in Jang Ok Jung where the 2nd female lead's mother died and her father married someone a couple of days later) It is somehow seen unfortunate or as misfortune if someone dies in the household and the household can't be without a mistress overseeing it. It is as if a social responsibility of the man in that household to find someone ASAP to replace the vacant position. *shrug*

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10 minutes ago, aprilslily said:

 

I totally had the same thought! If this is true, then no wonder the two leads banded together on her "kidnapping"

have the same thought. so maybe because HS didn't want to get marriage, she has to be servant... and its ok if to be WS servant  and then start to treatment WS's face

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1 hour ago, Cindy Ngo said:

Why without sub? The subs are already out...

I watched with subs...check my post