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3 hours ago, zi4r said:

#2 Hiding Jung by threatening herself (Because what I hate the most in life is using someone's love for you against that person)

@zi4r chingu well done with the anti HS post. I got a kick out of reading it :D and considering that the post has become a popular one I believe a lot of us agree with your points. I will thank you on venting out the frustration so well on my behalf :D.

For different reasons I gave up on trying to find logic in HS's actions from ep 9. No I never wanted her to chuck Wook and jump into So's arms like instant noodles but unfortunately I never understood how her brain worked (not the feelings part) from that episode onward. So I always look forward to kind chingudeul in here who explain why HS does what she does. I think of her as the necessary engine in Wang So's life driving him to his destiny because frankly I am mostly interested in what happens to him and how. I love the OTP interactions with respect to the same filter---how it affects So ad how he gets to spend time with his beloved person. This way I have seen that I don't get irritated with HS most of the time hehehe

Anyway, I just quoted one of the reasons you summarized in your dislike list and let me just say that I agree 200% with you. I was appalled at how HS threatened to use herself against WS and then even more appalled that there was no remorse or any kind of reflection from her after the incident was over. I don't know about anyone else but for me it just feels like there is no difference between her and Wang Yo or even the evil Queen. From a very nightmarish personal experience I can say that when a person you love threatens you and emotionally blackmails you with their life there can be very few things more traumatic than that. It is absolutely never acceptable to do that, whatever may be the difficulty or circumstance. So yes, when they showed that I was really taken aback and the sequence just sent out a wrong message IMO. Fortunately, I don't take HS seriously after ep 9 because she refuses to take her surroundings seriously and behaves quite like an "Ekta Kapoor Heroine".

Spoiler

Off topic- Ekta Kapoor happens to be a famous producer of hindi TV dramas from India. Initially she developed dramas which had good, strong female leads but at the height of her popularity she produced a slew of dramas where the female leads had to have a few particular traits. The major traits are- spunky/ feisty attitude, innocent heart and a pure mind, lovable and family oriented, has a lot of self respect, logic eludes her, feels for mostly everyone, always gets into scrapes, thinks that she has to shoulder the burden of the world and rescue everyone in her vicinity all by herself without asking for help (starting from cats and dogs,servants, siblings, parents, the hero, boss, friends, in-laws, hindi equivalent to chaebols, the stranger on the street and so on), generally has the habit of even dealing with goons, kidnappers and other unsavoury characters by herself, probably spends two to three times in police custody in the course of the drama, has the attention of at least three males, will definitely be involved with two/ three males romantically through the entire course of the drama, yet there will only be one male lead with him she finally ends up.

This set up became so famous that when ever a female lead behaves in a way resembling the above, she is called an EKta Kapoor heroine :D 

 

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Yesterday article said :"Haesoo keeps her place beside WS and becomes a strong woman in order to protect her love". I like how it sounds) 

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10 hours ago, phenyl said:

I found this

Can someone help me translate from minute 2.00-3.10

and im looking for deleted scene when hae soo watching wang so having a nightmare. please PM me or share the link

Here goes:

HS: I want to see you, mom.
WS: Cut the crap!
WS: Mom? Like, what the hell is that?
HS: What it is, you ask? Whatever mistake I make, she'd only thank me and be understanding, and only say it's all right. In the whole world, she's the only one on my side.
WS: Get a grip. On your side in this world, you have only yourself. You may try hard to say she'll protect you, but she won't be there when you're even killed because of the family.
HS: We aren't like that, all right?
WS: Really?... Then... Where was this?  Whenever (wherever) was it that you were dying, with her on your side?
HS: That is...
WS: If you have decided to live here, just live... without wasting time grumbling to Mom.

As always, Korean lines are dangerous to translate, as things could be entirely different if you heard some small sound wrong!  Hope I got it right.

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5 hours ago, zi4r said:

All in all, my three biggest problems are (ranked):

  • #1 "You said you didn't need to be king as long as we were together. You're not saying it anymore."
  • #2 Hiding Jung by threatening herself (Because what I hate the most in life is using someone's love for you against that person)
  • #3 The undeveloped relationship in the two years of Mu's reign

I guess I asked about the first part already (though in response to @lyserose), as I felt that it may be a bit of a stretch to take this line as asking him to give up the throne for her.  I didn't take it that way (at all!).  And neither did WS, in how he responded.

On the 2nd point, wasn't she actually helping WS out of a really tight spot, of having to arrest Jeong and have him face the law for breaking curfew?  It worked out best for WS too, and she knew it would.  At least, that's how I took it.  What was wrong in that? I thought it was brilliant.  And I think WS probably did too, as he didn't complain later when she explained it away (though it added to his feeling that she might not be trusting him like he does her, and he openly said that to her later).  Again, sorry if I missed any detail that should make me dislike HS on this.

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@pass3rby Thank you for posting the beautiful video on pp1393 (yes I'm way behind ) made by A.mode.  It really brought it  more sharply into focus for me how much Wang So sought Hae Soo for his solace and healing  - seeing the harshness of the life he was living, the lack of love and acceptance from most of those around him, the cruel treatment he received and to find Hae Soo, seemingly to him, so refreshingly unaffected and she cared for him, understood him, she brought healing to his heart. It's no wonder he went to her when he was hurt and emotionally drained - in the back hug scene when he asked her to 'just let him rest for a while' - that really touched me.  (Shame about what followed - but that's another story)

The words of Hae Soo's song along with the video clip I think are particularly poignant ...

It hurts as it blows past, but the one small ray of sun makes me smile.

Everyone is so busy they get on with their lives but that one friend makes me smile.

When I find a place where loneliness doesn't exist, join me there my friend, come with me.

My dear friend - thank you for being you

My dear friend  - thank you for being you.

I'm not very good at expressing myself but that video spoke a lot to me - I could 'feel' Wang So. :)

 

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5 hours ago, briseis said:

Don't ask questions I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO (I'm already on the brink of a mental breakdown) :tears:!!!

He looks so incredibly sad and lonely - like the loneliest person in the entire world.

http://dreamingsnowflake2013.tumblr.com/post/150923330944/its-pretty-clear-that-gwangjongs-children-will#tumblr_notes

 

Just my guess but I think this will be the time when GJ found out about HS and WW previous relationship cause he looks so cold there!! Oh my poor heart I can already feel how GJ will feel and how I will feel when I watch this  episode.  Hey chingus don't forget to  stock up on Kleenex for the last few episodes.  

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1 hour ago, jayakris said:

 

I apologize if I am not as clued in on every line she said, like many of you may be, but did she ask him to give up the throne? When?  You mean the line at the end of Ep 16?  If so, she didn't ask him to give it up, and only asked a "what if" to understand what he thought. Right?

That's how I understood it... she was merely sounding him out not actually asking him to give the throne up.

All I got from that scene was that she was trying to find out why he was going for the throne after repeatedly saying that he wasn't. I imagine she was trying to find out what had changed his mind.

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credt to: A.mode

I'm not sure if this has been posted already.  Beautifully presented, Enya track perfect, eerie, Wang So/Lee Joon Gi - say no more :wub:

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I'm deep in the middle of my rewatch and Wang So has two flashbacks by their pond: 

Ep 8 - During Eun's birthday; he realizes that he's in love with Hae Su and he has flashbacks to earlier in their relationship

Ep 16 - Wang So has flashbacks after the night back-hug. 

Ep 18, 19, 20 - WILL THERE BE FLASHBACKS, super sad flashbacks :'(

 

 

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8 minutes ago, zanierpk said:

I do not understand, why queen really hate wang so? can someone help to explain to me

 

Don't know ... maybe because his scar reminds her of that night the king decided to marry again and she just had a miscarriage
or maybe because JM predicted a Kings-Star for Mo and him, but not for her precious 1. born

I really don't know ... but his face does not suit her picture of a perfect king

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