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Jung! Leave hae soo alone! Or else! #*^€^*>!  She sees only Wang So! 

If i copy paste an image, i can see the image in the chat box but if i will post it, it won't be seen anymore.

:sweatingbullets::tears:

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7 minutes ago, Shiori Me said:

I can not think that Wang So do not know what a woman Yeon Hwa is. Because of her statements against Hae Soo he should be warned. But also Ji Mong has a deeper meaning. He said then the court lady Oh was not born under the star of a queen. He has seen the Crown Prince Moo will not live very long. Wang So has suffered so much in his life why should he suffer further?

My thoughts:
Hofdame Oh must have seen something in Hae Soo.
King Taejo also saw Hae Soo as a daughter.
Ji Mong knows more than he says.
Yeon Hwa's crime would not tolerate Wang. No way!
(Betrayal and the tea)

Scarlet Heart also had a 2 season. Perhaps the authors also looked around there.

Maybe they will meet again in the future.

Maybe Yeon Hwa will not be his queen I hope so.

It is obvious that So does not like Yeon Hwa...i am angry with the thought that he marries her.   She is a snake!!!

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@Shaian Geroso yes that is true. I can not stand the thought either. That would not be nice and Wang So would not deserve.

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3 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Great thoughts as usual dear. :)

I think the message of this show has always been how difficult it is for people to change. But it is a fact of human nature and a fact of life. Suffering, pain on the other hand, are all part of the mechanism through which that change occurs. As I've said previously, people don't change people... but circumstances... and more specifically suffering do. It is easy to live in the past hankering for what used to be but sooner or later the caterpillar must leave the cocoon after metamorphosis and take flight. For most the past is a comfortable place because at the very least, it is a known quantity.

The real tragedy of Eun and Seon Deok for me is that squandering of 3 years. Even if they were unjustly killed and both died relatively young, if they had shared more moments like the one that had in Ep. 15, their deaths would have been less of a tragedy. I think people in those times had very little expectations of living long lives in the way that we do so they married younger, had kids younger and did most of what they had to do before they were 30. If it wasn't disease, ill health or poverty that took that them early, it was war and violence. They had a much bleaker view of the world and they were more prepared to deal with it.

I've never been really critical of Su in the way that many have been. Change is hard even when you know you should to accommodate the realities that you're dealing with... people cling on bitterly for dear life right up to the end. They even make themselves sick over it. I know I've lived it. Fear of the unknown, fear of losing yourself. It's far too easy to resist change because you can't control the future or the outcomes. The future is an unruly mustang or brumby (as we call them here in Oz) that just can't be micromanaged. At least not in the way Uk would like to. ;)

This is what I've appreciated about the writing. Contrary to what people think, the writer is quite aware of the shortcomings of the characters. They are factored into the storyline and its general trajectory. Their inherent weaknesses, good/bad choices and lack of resolve all contribute to how the story unfolds as much as their relationships do. Even though Su is the wildcard and stirs things up in this drama, everyone chooses how they want to live.

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Speaking of choices, I've been meaning to give props to the lad that plays Yo, Hong Jong Hyun. I think he's done a sterling job with the material. He's probably been given some of the best lines in the show especially in Ep. 16. He plays Yo with such relish and a great sense of irony even when he's degenerating through paranoia. On some level he is right to be paranoid because So and Ji Mong have been actively conspiring against him. On top of that, his mother is now telling him to make Jeong his successor which exacerbates his paranoia. There's a nice irony in what he says to her. A self-deprecating awareness behind the tyrannical mask.

 

I absolutely love the line about the breeding-pig. My fellow subbers at DSS tell me that it refers to a king that's washed out and only good for passing down the throne. LOL. 

That's the thing I like about Yo... he knows his ambitious and he's a bad guy on some level. And he even knows subconsciously that his Nazi-Bene Gesserit mother is using him as her pawn in her chess game. And while his hallucination scene in the broadcast version is a hoot, what I loved more was that Sauron voice going "Yo, Yo". :lol:

And really... we have him to thank for in bringing So and Su back together. Without him, we wouldn't have gotten the night of passion. ;) Personally I think we have much to thank him for in this show. If he hadn't tricked Eun into getting So unmasked we wouldn't have gotten Goryeo BB cream and the start to the OTP's romance.

I know we all praise LJG to the skies here... and he really does deserve it. However, I can't agree that he singlehandedly holds this show together or elevates it. If the rest of the cast were that mediocre, I doubt this show would have much staying power. At least not for me anyway. 

Totally agree with you, especially the highlighted part. Thank you for pointing that out.

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28 minutes ago, Shiori Me said:

I can not think that Wang So do not know what a woman Yeon Hwa is. Because of her statements against Hae Soo he should be warned. 

Sorry for cutting your post. Actually I am worried because probably WS doesn't know how bad YH is.. He knows she is ambitious but that's all. They had somewhat childhood crush, she was relatively kind to him (wound care). Also she 'drank' poison that makes her look pitiful, and she told him about Eun location, like to help WS to go and save him. And she asked him to marry her twice, it's flattering :huh: Unfortunately, WS has no clue about her background plots and may think she acts under WW command (he assumed so when she blocked the road). 

Let's hope the truth comes out, and better before marriage takes place..

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@ladyfriday thanks for pix) 

The king is waiting alone in front of the doors)) Is he going to nag her for coming late? 

or is that WW?

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9 hours ago, meahri_1 said:

 

Actually, I was going to mention that too. We were always up by over 1000 pages, and perhaps the conclusion of the other drama caused some sort of uptick in their activity. That said, that's a huge difference chingudeul. The distinction of most active thread with the most number of replies/responses in 2016 is no longer ours.

I don't know about you, but we've invested so much in the drama, despite ALL of it's flaws and all the setbacks it's experienced. Let's conclude our time here by setting a record of our own. Here are the ALL-TIME Soompi standings as far as total number of replies/responses:

1. Faith - 90,78

2. Nice Guy - 46,976

3. You're the Best Lee Soon Shin - 44,714

4. Goon/Princess Hours - 39,986

5. Heirs - 35,316

6. The Gu Family Book - 35,081

7. Master's Sun - 33,198

8. Empress Ki - 28,824

We're currently at 28,621 and Moonlight is at 30,399. Before episode 16 last week, we were ahead by over 1000. We will clearly beat Empress Ki. We were previously generating about 1000 reply posts on a weekly basis. Can we capture our prior enthusiasm and perhaps take the 6th place or higher? I BELIEVE WE CAN. What do you think? Are you in? :phew:

 

Dont worry...i think MLSHR might get more than EK or hopefully MS..we are a few thousands behind due to the Ep.17 not aired last week...i hope we can achieve at least 30k replies by tuesday...

Woww...i couldnt believe that Faith had the highest replies amongst all... you guys know right that LJG supposed to star in Faith drama but he had to pulled out from the drama because his appealed to delay the military service was declined and he had received a warning for enlistment..

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Where's the bts for the stargazing scene?? They supposed to give us that bts!! How dare they dont want to share the sweet bts moments of uri OTP!! I want to see the bts of "Pegasus vs Pesuses" so badlyyyy

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1 hour ago, Killa92 said:

Lol if Yeon Hwa marry Jung she will have to face Queen SMS everyday kekeke. Queen SMS also love Jung so much so maybe she will lecture Yeon Hwa to take care of his son well.

 

I like the idea of that. I couldn't agree more when WY said "We're perfect for each other"  to YH but since WY crossed YH out my words to YH are: "It's okay dear, go to Jung! If Yo left you for nothing it's okay, you still have Jung"

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3 hours ago, briseis said:

Episode 17 stills

 

source: ML facebook

 

I think HS might have built that for WE and SD. Although WE was probably older than HS I'm pretty sure both of them were younger than Go Ha Jin so she might have seen them as children (not her own). I think since Jung is there maybe we can expect that(?). Although I still don't understand the look on his face. Any ideas? 

Also I've read people speculating that HS is praying for her child but out of curiosity is it okay for a woman to get pregnant without marriage in Goryoe? Would everyone accept that?  

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8 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

 

I think HS might have built that for WE and SD. Although WE was probably older than HS I'm pretty sure both of them were younger than Go Ha Jin so she might have seen them as children (not her own). I think since Jung is there maybe we can expect that(?). Although I still don't understand the look on his face. Any ideas? 

Also I've read people speculating that HS is praying for her child but out of curiosity is it okay for a woman to get pregnant without marriage in Goryoe? Would everyone accept that?  

I would say if the woman is the King's woman, it is okay. King can have whoever he wants in his court. It's just he cannot make whoever he wants to be his queen. This position is tricky and lots of rules and qualifications to follow.

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8 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

 

I think HS might have built that for WE and SD. Although WE was probably older than HS I'm pretty sure both of them were younger than Go Ha Jin so she might have seen them as children (not her own). I think since Jung is there maybe we can expect that(?). Although I still don't understand the look on his face. Any ideas? 

Also I've read people speculating that HS is praying for her child but out of curiosity is it okay for a woman to get pregnant without marriage in Goryoe? Would everyone accept that?  

 

 

Probably yes, it would be a problem I guess, but HS case is different... she's the king's woman. So I guess no one would talk or think anything. At this point, the people in the palace probably already know  he can't officially marry her, but they're still in a relationship. 

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3 minutes ago, glacial said:

when do you guythink wang so started to have feelings for hae soo? We all know it wasn't the obvious time when he saw her sing in euns bday party because thats only when he realized how he felt. I've thought back to it many times and I actually think it was at first sight when he put  her on the horse, it wasn't serious or deep but he was surely attracted to her, i can't see him picking up any other girl like that! not with his personality! :D:phew:

 

Yes...i think it was love at first sight for him...her talking back to him and defying him made him intrigued...

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Hey guys any suggestions on who to follow at FB , IG, Twitter for updates on ML...Thanks!

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in light of me not wanting to go back and search through so many posts. Can someone re-comment the deleted scenes from episodes 16? or point me to the right page? I remember skimming and reading about a lot of differences for this most recent episode but I only was able to finally catch up and watch it yesterday night. Now I was hoping to see everything that was cut and may have helped with the story? Please and thank you! You guys are great at keeping me in the loop even if I don't comment much since I can't watch it until the weekend usually.

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