[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[40somethingahjumma]

I'm inclined to believe that the next two episodes will provide us a much clearer picture of the writer's approach to GHJ's effect on the events leading to Gwangjong's ascension. What happens to Eun and Seon Deok will determine how the rest of history unfolds in this drama. I don't think the writer is obliged to follow recorded history all that closely when so many liberties have already been taken with the official presentation. However, what the writer might be obligated to do is to follow the course set out by the novel.

What the "fate" of Eun and Seon Deok will give us is the tone of the rest of the drama. The latest previews are giving me a kind of Princess' Man vibe. Although the bloodbath started a lot earlier with that drama, there are similar resonances of a star-crossed romance at play. But then I should know better than to take too much stock in the previews of this show which are more often than not, de-contextualized... deceptively positioned and framed.  

I also got the sense from Ep. 15 that Eun and Seon Deok hiding out in Damiwon was a double-edged sword. While it did eventually expose their whereabouts, it also showed that this life-death event brought them closer together, ended the push-pull dynamic and in all likelihood led to the consummation of their marriage. I don't know that it is that simple that Su should have told So about Eun being in Damiwon. Maybe she should have... maybe she believed that she had to ensure that neither of the parties should cross paths thus limiting the chances of an all out confrontation.  But then I don't think there's any guarantee of a positive outcome either way, if the premonitions are to be believed.

Despite what some of the characters say and think regarding their position in court, everyone has choices available to them despite not having absolute liberty. No one has that. However, within the limited options that are available to them, they are still able to decide their next course of action. We see that with Uk and Yeon Hwa in a significant way as they manipulate their way out of one situation out of another largely of their own making. It shows that despite all the best calculations in the world, people and circumstances are often quite unpredictable.

My one main criticism of Su is that she's trying so desperately not to take sides in this game of thrones. It could be she's clinging on to the last vestiges of her modern sensibilities and it may be that she's trying to mitigate the issue of anyone getting hurt. But that ship has already sailed. It doesn't matter what she's trying to do, as long as she's linked to So, in the eyes of everyone else, she has already taken a side. This is no time for neutrality. Lines have been drawn. Often as we've seen in recent decades, it's a lot more dangerous not take positions on issues because sooner or later, someone else will do it for you.
 

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Conversation in Ep. 14 between Su and Jeong:

J: In the event... that there's a battle between us, which side will you stand on?

S: I'm not qualified to stand with any team. I'll be a referee, how about it?

J: Those days playing at 8th Brother's house, they're gone forever.  We have all changed. You will soon have to make a choice.

S: No matter what, I don't feel that I can take a stand because I hope no one gets hurt. I can do it.

 

For me that's her prevailing narrative. If she maintains her neutrality or mediates between opposing sides... no one gets hurt. It is a rather naive position to hold regarding the game of thrones but it has resonances with our political classes and contemporary thinking about non-interference in larger world affairs. Undoubtedly everyone's sick of conflict and war but the reality is that even if our side doesn't start the wars, someone else will.

The moment she chose to be So's person and aligned with him emotionally, she already made her choice. She can barely protect herself, much less him or anyone else. For her to try and protect Eun is an existential reassertion of that belief that she can mediate the fight. This line of thinking may have had some impact when the more friendly Mu was in power. But when you have a manipulative tyrant in the making ruling the roost, neutrality is a pipe dream. Worse still neutrality might end up hurting more people than saving them.

As I've said on numerous occasions, I don't know how things will end up... There are a number of possibilities that I've mooted. At the end of the day I don't really like speculating publicly because it will only end up creating expectations or unnecessary angst. Whatever comes, I would like to see consistency in characterization and narrative which should, in my opinion, trump obligation to official history and even the novel itself. However, I'm not interested in a happy ending for a happy ending's sake. It's got to make sense.

I also want to say in praise of LJG that I'm so glad he undertook this project. He is a true acting great because he doesn't just "act" but inhabits the role completely. He doesn't just act the part but he is Wang So from head to toe. This is my fourth LJG drama and the only one that I've adored. Two of them I dropped midway largely because of pacing and the female lead. Two Weeks, I quite enjoyed. It's probably a bit of a cliche now to say this but LJG was born to play Wang So and this is a role of a lifetime for him despite all the post-production issues. The mask, the scar, the bloody face, the Goryeo outfits... he absolutely belongs in this role and all its trappings. My dream after this is to see LJG and Jang Hyuk in a drama or film together. Truth be told, I would pay very good money to see that collaboration. Aside from his performance, I adore his vocal delivery. People are right, he is the Prince of Sageuk because he does have the voice for it as well. For me he's like the Benedict Cumberbatch of SK... someone I could listen to for hours reading out of a phone book. The man needs to do audio books fast. I won't understand much but it won't matter.

 

 

 

[Jemara]

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[hiluna]

8 hours ago, penelop3 said:

Saw the pic of them kissing and my reaction was... meh. 
I didnt watch the movie, but from the way @Diana Blanche describes it, this kiss seems lukewarm compare to So-Soo's kisses. It's a different level of HOTNESS! 

Actually the scene was pretty hot on Joon Gi's part but the lead actress was a bit stiff because it was her first on screen kiss ever, lucky her she got our gorgeous prince 

[meahri_1]

1 hour ago, atgirlina said:

 it only quantify the hallyu stars in south korea? does it take into account the international brand power too?

i imagine the list would be different if it also include the international effect of each actors.

 

Yes it does address it from an international perspective, hence the use of the term Hallyu in the general description. The term Hallyu refers to the 'global popularity of South Korean Culture'.

[MadraRua]

Spoiler

 

tell me the story
about how the sun
loved the moon so much
that he died every night
to let her breath

Cr: closetcinephile

[MoOnLoVeRz]

hyoyyeol

:  Wolves are known to follow one female wolf until death. You are an animal, after all.

 

[ruizaio]

@atgirlina Just because the ratings are low in Korea doesn't mean that MLSHR is not loved in Korea. MLSHR DC Gallery has over 130k posts and is often the busiest forum associated with a single drama on DC. We discuss episodes, share information, create memes or fanart, and mourn the loss of our lives outside of this drama. The similarity between here and there often amuses me. I suppose the main difference is the fact that here you don't get attacked by the antis.

[meahri_1]

1 hour ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

I also want to say in praise of LJG that I'm so glad he undertook this project. He is a true acting great because he doesn't just "act" but inhabits the role completely. He doesn't just act the part but he is Wang So from head to toe. This is my fourth LJG drama and the only one that I've adored. Two of them I dropped midway largely because of pacing and the female lead. Two Weeks, I quite enjoyed. It's probably a bit of a cliche now to say this but LJG was born to play Wang So and this is a role of a lifetime for him despite all the post-production issues. The mask, the scar, the bloody face, the Goryeo outfits... he absolutely belongs in this role and all its trappings. My dream after this is to see LJG and Jang Hyuk in a drama or film together. Truth be told, I would pay very good money to see that collaboration. Aside from his performance, I adore his vocal delivery. People are right, he is the Prince of Sageuk because he does have the voice for it as well. For me he's like the Benedict Cumberbatch of SK... someone I could listen to for hours reading out of a phone book. The man needs to do audio books fast. I won't understand much but it won't matter.

 

 

@40somethingahjumma Parts of your post made it feel like you were in my head. I've enjoyed ALL your essays  and love your thought process and the way you articulate your conclusions and theories. I agree with them all, including your opinion of uri Joongi. If he one day has an opportunity to star in a drama or film with Jang Hyuk, I wouldn't hesitate to join you. I TRULY hope with all my being that his portrayal as Wangso is acknowledged and hopefully rewarded before SK's award season concludes this year.

 

@MadraRua Dear, the depth of So's love for Soo gets me every time. 

tell me the story
about how the sun
loved the moon so much
that he died every night
to let her breath

Cr: closetcinephile

[MoOnLoVeRz]

new fan art!

[UnniSarah]

1 hour ago, zagigirl said:

 

Me too ...but i'm willing to change it for a scene Wook see them kissing 

Still in waiting mode...monday please come

@zagigirl  I too would love to see Wang Wook see them kiss . I also want Wang Yo, Yeonhwa and Jung witness their kisses. That would make me the happiest fan in the whole wide world. I am so tired of people not seeing the way Hae Soo feels for Wang So.   Yeonhwa sees their romance as something childish but I see a an endless love. Knowing Hae Soo she herself hasn't realized HOW MUCH SHE LOVES WANG SO.

[jerboa83]

Article on Dramafever's website:

https://www.dramafever.com/news/-reasons-scarlet-heartryeo-needs-a-season-2/ 

7 Reasons Scarlet Heart: Ryeo needs a season 2

by Shelly M on Fri, Oct 14, 2016

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Scarlet Heart: Ryeo has bewitched the world since its premiere in August! We only have five more episodes with the magical drama that resurrected historical figures and presented them in a more creative light. Whether you loved or hated the production's twist on history, you have to admit the story itself is thrilling. It's a shame the incredible 15 hour ride we have taken will come to an end very soon. We all know it can't end this way! I have listed reasonsScarlet Heart: Ryeo needs to give viewers a season 2. 

 

1. International K-drama fans adore the series! During it's first month on air, the historical gem was viewed one billion times in China. I'm guessing the flower boys and the imminent love story hooked everyone from day one. 

 

 

[meahri_1]

HAHA!!!

 

[sooji28]

Hi @ruizaio

About baseball game on Monday, is it official that SBS won't air eps 16 on Monday? And they only air 1 episode (which is eps 16) on Tuesday? 

[sadpluto]

I don't know if someone posted this already.

This is exactly how I felt. 

Is that dude crying at the end? HAHAHAH

 

[ruizaio]

14 minutes ago, sooji28 said:

Hi @ruizaio

About baseball game on Monday, is it official that SBS won't air eps 16 on Monday? And they only air 1 episode (which is eps 16) on Tuesday? 

 

So far the verdict is that if the baseball game ends before 9:20PM, ep 16 will air as normal. If it goes past that, it will air on Tuesday by itself. If it rains on Sunday and the baseball game is delayed, there is a chance that even Tuesday airing of MLSHR will be canceled. 

[meahri_1]

Oh my....

 

 

[lclarakl]

On 10/15/2016 at 1:52 AM, MAROSA_JIN said:

 

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@MAROSA_JIN, thank you for posting this scene.  I have a hand fetish......I love seeing a man with strong masculine hands......this scene is almost as good as a kissing scene; love that they are holding on to each other.

don't quote images, gifs, videos

 

[UnniSarah]

7 hours ago, violet90 said:

 

i think the writer still going to let WW will be the one who destroy the bracelets.. in BBJX its 8th way of saying that its over between them and RX already choose 4th at that time.. but the twist here is 14th will be the one who send the bracelet to 8th from RX..

so i don't know whether the bracelet already being returned or not but WW still have hopes for Soo so maybe that's why he still holding on but the moment So became a king it will be clear who Soo choose cause she will stay with So...

the ironic symbol for breaking the bracelet is when WW finally realize that Soo choose So over him... that's the final goodbye for both of them.. as for now Soo already move on but not WW...

@violet90 The I can see that happen but I wonder why did it take her so long to give the bracelet back to WW. We can all see Hae Soo has moved on. It is saddening to see WW still thinks he has a chance. He might actually believe power nad money is what Hae Soo wants in a relationship. I

I love how the writer was able to tell us what Yeonhwa considers a marriage to be. So that we can see the difference in Hae Soo's love and Yeonhwa's love is. Yeonhwa wants power and if she Donald love it will be a plus for her . Even Yeonhwa doesn't want her husband to have other wives. In a way Yeonhwa, Wang Wook and Wang Eun were really affected by Tae Jo's  many marriage. They each were affected in some way. 

[EstherW]

I was moved by the way Soo held So hand when they Won confronted them. It showed how Soo trusted So and it said many things about the current stage of their relationship together. Love it!

[moonlover399993]

31 minutes ago, sadpluto said:

I don't know if someone posted this already.

This is exactly how I felt. 

Is that dude crying at the end? HAHAHAH

 

I died, came back and died again   I think they surpassed the levels of crazy fangirls lol. Omg! I've never seen guys have such a reaction for a couple like this.