[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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Hi chingus..

 

I was a silent reader in this thread..i love SHR..I am in love with LJG and IU..

And i always had a doubt..the title says "Sarlet hear Ryeo" not "Goryeo"..can some1 explain it to me plz?

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13 minutes ago, junejungki said:

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I watched Two Weeks recently. The part LJG communicate with his daughter Soo Jin in that drama through the glass panel in the hospital, really heartbreaking. I wonder what would LJG like if he has a daughter or son.

 

 

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For me, Two Weeks is one of the best Kdramas I have ever seen. I enjoyed thoroughly LJG's interactions with the little girl, LCM. Though the drama isnt about romance, however I like his interaction with Park Ha Sun, somehow there's spark between their characters when I watched it. But...yeah again, LJG's chemistry with LJE is amazingly beautiful! 

 

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9 minutes ago, RoxanaR said:

NOW YOU CAN VOTE

http://www.hallyuvote.com/face-off-battle.html

 

Still not working for me. 

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52 minutes ago, riuenu said:

Not too sure have this been posted...but our ladies updated their instagram for today dinner as well!

 

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It's seem all cast and production crew (director, and writer-nim) know that MLSHR is a huge success, despite the low ratings. Glad they are still in contact. 

Btw, I looooove Lee Joon Gi's natural face. Why he has to be that handsome. He's so pretty i wanna cry.  

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actually it been very confusing... >< alternating between two different version.....the cut and paste here and there, left and right is stunning my brain lols if i have any left i guess

pretty sure u guys had seen this preview...

i find that i love this preview where JiMong, WangSo and HaeSoo are all sitting down with JiMong saying 'I believe it is times now'

it is as if they are plotting something and is this where WangSo is pushed on to be the next king?

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Casting aside the romance between HS and WS, which I do not invest in anymore, my favourite moments in episode 15 were the flashback among baby WS and teenagers JM + Moo and also the death of Moo.

When WS was a kid, Mo was so nice to him. There are times their relationships are strained, like before WS drank the poison or when Moo became paranoid. Yet, they still have a good relationship.  WS hates being a "dog" for any and yet he is willing to do so for Mo (of course, he is not comfortable about that because he has to take on a wife). 

Mo is a gentle person, maybe too soft even. Like WS, he has weak points: the low-ranking of his in-laws and his illness. His life and Crown Prince position are constantly under threat. Just because he is destined to be a king, his life is so tragic. If he is not a Crown Prince, his life is probably better since he does not have good in-law backing to start with. WS's life is terrible but I think Mo's life is tragic too. Being betrayed, being poisoned, being killed...poor Mo. I didn't not really feel anything about him until this episode. 

Also I never realize Mo and JM actually are actually childhood friends. I just thought JM sticks to him because he knows the future. When JM comes into the water bath and tries to call him, I really cried.  This is the first and also the last time JM calls him Mo. Baek Ah is right: JM can now forget everything and rest in peace.

I didn't even shed a tear when Lady Oh died. She chooses to stay near Taejo in a dangerous place like a palace, knowing fulll well the consequence.. Any bad thing can happen there and her unborn baby is the collateral damage. She will die because of illness. But by the time she dies, she has no regret. Like JM says, she left without grudges or bitterness so she was lucky. She chooses to die so that another life can be saved. It is touching but I feel like Lady Oh finally gets the peace she wants. So I didn't even cry.

But Mo...he doesn't even have a choice in how he wants to die. He is slowly dying already under the hand of one brother and is killed by another. For 2 years, his life is pure torture. Farewell Mo, you will be missed. 

Moon Lovers has leave me many things not satisfied. But I love the way they handle poignant moments like Mo and Lay Oh's deaths. 

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3 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

 

Still not working for me. 

 

Yes , I only could vote just 5 times , is frozen again , I'm so frustrated

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15 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

 

Thanks, we worked hard on those... 

There was no mention of the ending as far as I can tell. I listened to it over and over again a while back but I didn't catch anything.

Oh gosh, that's a bombshell to me

Ok, preparing more immunization vaccines for my heart....

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1 hour ago, jerboa83 said:

I thought so, but there are so many cuts that there's no long clip (not a 30'' one, specifically), and the song also was spotted.
I'm trying uploading it on Vimeo, but it doesn't seem to work with the last version, even if all the parameters are as indicated on the website and the format is the same as my previous ups. What do you think about Veoh? Is it that bad as an alternative? 
I want to create more mvs of this drama, 'cause it's epic enough to inspire me to do it, but I need to find a way to share them... For me it's also a useful way of practicing: my fiancee works as a pro videomaker, and since he's always overloaded with videos to edit, I'd like to learn a few tricks in order to help him (at least with the most simple tasks)... and some feedback would be useful if I want to improve.

That is to say, that's what my love for my boyfriend and my love for this drama made of me!   In the past, even Healer, Faith or Queen In-Hyun's Man  hadn't convinced me to create my own fan videos...  

i haven't try veoh so i don't really know about the polocy, but as i know veoh was blocked in few country (my country on of those).

have you check the reason of copy right issue? it's usually notify in your video manager..

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36 minutes ago, kdramawriter said:

 

YW!! Thanks for reading and really appreciate the comments from readers. Please help me upvote or by commenting. I <3 feedback. 

http://www.asianfanfics.com/story/view/1181374

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12180986/1/Escape-from-The-Palace

 

 

 

I'm in love with this fic! I keep rereading it till next update. You  write really well! =D

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right = write lol

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Just now, RoxanaR said:

 

Yes , I only could vote just 5 times , is frozen again , I'm so frustrated

 

@RoxanaR Hate to say it, but the other fan count is so way ahead now, it would be really hard for us to catch up. I have to agree with some of the comments. There's one particular person whose vote count is too high within a given hour to be natural.

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27 minutes ago, qwenli said:

That's the crown prince/king Moo ! The lady at the back of LJG is the writer who give us all these "sick stories" lol

@riuenu nearly all the regular IG users posted! except IU, who hasnt posted anything since 17 aug. hmmm, trying to avoid scandals...

gosh, this drama is equally exciting behind the scenes. Love their friendship 

@qwenli hahahahahaha same thinking u know...I hope IU will post as well..

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but seem like...after some SNS incident...she very seldom on SNS..especially twitter...I saw her fan mentioned that, she login twitter after 2 years or 3 years? And all of them are very happy about that

Yup, love their friendship and love their gathering dinner, especially after a heavy episode ytd, simply <3

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I wonder if there's going to be another timeskip in next week's episodes. The question is when. Soo's question of whether So has forgotten her makes me wonder if they were separated for a while. It would also make sense why Won is saying Soo is still with So.

Is it immediately after Eun and Sd are killed? But So gets hurt saving Soo so I assumed they'll be together immediately in the aftermath. However, their meeting in that room doesn't seem like it happened immediately. So went at Soo like he hadn't seen her in ages. And here, Soo's question would make better sense.

I do wonder why they'd be separated though. Did Yo send So away or something?

Also, Jimong's "It's time now" strikes me as So and Soo's lying low until they can strike back at Yo via a rebellion or something along those lines (where So, the general and Baek Ah are on horses)

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10 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

 

@kdramawriter Your post ROCKED!!  The way you navigated through your explanation was perfect. So much so that I totally believe your theory is correct. Looking forward to hearing from you again.

Haha, thank you! I have some additional thoughts too:

Go Ha Jin comes from a different future than ours. She’s shaping her future to the the one that we know. This makes so much logical sense because her premonitions, while true, have been wrong in delivering on the details (aka, such as the details of being in front of the throne with WS, WS’s tears at killing Eun). Goddamn, sometimes this show is too subtle for its own good. And I’m fully on board with @pineapplegongzhou’s Power of Love theory for Hae Su. The love that Hae Su has for Wang so is the primary factor in changing his behavior and making him into the Gwangjong reform king that we all know today. Overall, I think there some editing issues, but the show stands up really well to some deep reading and I think that’s always the mark of good writing. Show’s problem is that it’s depending on people to pay attention very closely (but then also serves us many many useless scenes).

It’s interesting to me that so many people hate Hae Su’s motivation because she doesn’t “trust” Su. It’s a charge leveled at women a lot, that we’re not trustworthy. I find that she’s motivated by love of Wang So, to protect him, to save him, and that doesn’t mean that she shouldn’t trust herself first. In this episode, Hae Su choose trust in herself, to change things for the better for Wang So. And that I find to be a noble motivation and at the heart of who she is. Are we all freaking out because Wang So knows that she was hiding Eun without telling him? Maybe. I for one, can’t wait to see the fall out.

She gets told on 2 separate occasions by 2 different people (Yo & So) that she’s going to be used as the hostage/bait to control Wang So. This confirms for her, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Wang So will be used against her. (It’s already been done by Yo–so she’s essentially waiting for the other shoe to drop). If anything, I feel like she’s trying to prevent WS from having to kill Eun, but also from her being used as leverage so WS HAS to kill Eun. Even she said to WS right before he leaves for his mission “Did he [Yo] blackmail you with my life again?”

The majority of the HS hate seems to be directed at HS not telling WS about Eun’s whereabouts. But if we know anything about this story, we know that it has a deterministic ending – WS will have to end Eun’s life no matter what, but the question is HOW will he end Eun’s life? There's no scenario in the show where if HS did tell WS about Eun that WS would be able to successfully save Eun - because Eun is fated to die. That's how determinism works. If HS did tell WS about her hiding Eun, there will simply be another mitigating factor that leads to Eun’s death (instead of YH discovering Eun b/c he was hiding at the Damiwon, the story would have lead ANOTHER involved character to reveal Eun to Yo). I take the position that because of HS’s will to save Eun on her own, Wang So is given (while still terrible) task of mercy killing Eun, instead of a murder in another horrifying manner – scarring him earlier and turning him to the bloodthirsty king Go Ha Jin knows.

I really believe Hae Su is there to steer every major decision in Gwangjong’s life to become the emperor that we know today. And that is her purpose in life. Poor baby HS, at least you get some LJK kisses out of it.

**last unrelated note: 

I also find it unfair that people are blaming Hae Su for not spotting the mercury poisoning earlier. King Mu wasn’t just a dude, hanging out in the bathtub all day by himself and Hae Su. She wasn’t the only one to see him. He had a trusted circle of advisors who would HAVE to notice and yet none of those people spoke up (that goes for you too Jimong, Baek-Ah, Ji Soo). If she HAD questioned the king’s sanity, she also would have been shut-down REAL quick. This gives creedance to my theory that Wang So was not in the palace for the last two years, or away for travel significantly so that Hae Su could not tell him her suspicions.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

 

@kdramawriter Your post ROCKED!!  The way you navigated through your explanation was perfect. So much so that I totally believe your theory is correct. Looking forward to hearing from you again.

 

Yes, that is excellent post. It is all makes sense now to me. I always wonder why Go Hajin think Gwangjong is a ruthless king.

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When Jimong said 'I believe it is times now' it happen before the kiss or after?

 

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someone give me link to 14 kiss

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7 hours ago, dwookie said:

 

Yes, but wasn't that Ruoxi the original Ruoxi -like not the Ruoxi who originated from the future or was it the time he was living in 8th's estate? Again, it sucket Scarlet Heart Ryeo only have 20 eps. unlike BBJX, kver is more complicated because of the time jumps and some scenes that were "pivotal" but wasn't included.

 

Thanks for the answer, it sucks because I like SD/Eun more than their version in BBJX (lol) Ugghhh my SD/Eun

 

Nope, in episode 1 or 2, Ruoxi's sister tells the Ruoxi from the future that every 3 years, unmarried noble woman have to enter the palace to see if they will be selected as a concubine or court lady. And we see scenes of Ruoxi failing her sister etiquette tests and there's change of seasons and holidays to show that over a year passes before Ruoxi enters the palace.

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I completed the survey using my real name and email - mhuirisrua@gmail.com. Please folks don't do the survey multiple times as it decreases the genuine results of the survey which will negate it in the end. Thanks again for all your hard work @ruizaio and those of the SHR fans over on DC. 

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Younger Ji Mong, Wang Moo and So. (They were so happy.)

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I found the source of that CPI message on tumblr. It was originally posted by lavenderbyun in response to a message sent by wanweird-of-an-argonaut. 

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so @wanweird-of-an-argonaut just sent me this and i thought I’d share it, esp for those who are curious about how badly the ratings are affecting everything:

“Scarlet Heart Ryeo” ranked the highest in the contents power index (CPI) compared to other drama. CPI is an integrated index developed by CJ E&M and Nielsen Korea to capture wider data than just viewership about influence of contents. The data includes Internet news subscription rankings, direct search rankings, interest, engagements and social media buzz.“ Besides, the existing tv rating measurement system has become outdated after the existence of internet esp. social media. Nielsen Korea based its rating on the 2000 households. How could 2000 households represent the whole viewing population? Aside from Moon Lovers being ranked as the highest in the Contents Power Index in Korea, it has more than 1 billion views in China which is more powerful than the percentage(%) of the viewership of the 2000 households with which Nielsen Korea based its rating analysis.”

 

There's no link however to the CPI statistics for this message. I've been searching online for them to verify this but no joy so far. Maybe someone else will have better luck. 

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I think it's hit or miss with posting content to Youtube. The first MV I did was caught straight away and blocked worldwide. Had to upload that one to Vimeo. Dailymotion also rejected it. I changed the length of the clips shown for the second one and with copious Hail Mary's it was accepted. I say accepted, the music was caught but they were happy as long as they got to monetize the video. Plus it's viewable worldwide. I don't know what to say to you really. I would love to see your MV so try uploading it somewhere else. Mine now has 633 views - woot woot  That's 632 views more than I thought it'd get.  

 

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1 hour ago, kdramawriter said:

Great theory from Dramabeans which lays out the logic of the show really well:

78 patpat October 12th, 2016 at 12:39 AM

I keep thinking, what if the history that Jimong and Go Hajin knew is different than the history that we know now? According to the history, after King Taejo’s death, the list of the king is Moo, Yo, then So. But Jimong said that Yo’s crowning was out of his prediction. Yo was never meant to be king before, it should have been Moo then So. Go Hajin also thought that after King Taejo, Gwangjong was the next King (yes, I even rewatch eps 1 to make sure), probably because Moo’s reign wasn’t significant. Yo’s reign in history, if it existed, should have been remarkable for the destruction he had done so far, but Go Hajin didn’t have any memory about that. So I think it’s safe to say that the history that Go Hajin knew was different from the history that we know. Hence, we can say that the history did change. And the reason for that change, as Jimong said, should be a variable. What if the variable is Go Hajin’s Soo? [....]

 

 

To summarize : HS comes to goryeo to HUMANIZE WS.

One commentator of DB post almost same thing as this one. I really like the theory. It makes all the things fit into places