[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[violet90 21,973]

Lim Do Hyuk - Goodbye

Spoiler

Do you remember?
A guy who wanted to protect you
I got chocked up when I see you
It feels like I’m going to cry

Love you, I’ll remember you forever
Because I wanted to protect you

I was behind of you while you’re leaving
I was looking at you with tears

One day when you think of me
Or when you miss me
Please come find me whenever
Even time goes by

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

Love you, I’ll remember you forever
Because I wanted to protect you

I was behind of you while you’re leaving
I was looking at you with tears

One day when you think of me
Or when you miss me
Please come find me whenever
Even time goes by

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

Wait for me with hiding sad words
Just go without saying
Please don’t look back at me

I couldn’t say this word
The one who I love the most in the world is you

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

 

when this first release i kinda think wth? i mean the story is turning dark and sad and we have a lively OST??? 

but when i read the lyric my heart stop.... its perfectly describe WS feeling when he let HS go later on... whether its because of his jealousy or misunderstanding or HS suffering.... but deep in WS heart he have to let HS go because of HS herself.. WS will never let HS go if HS did't want to leave him.. they been through a lot and WW issue will be solved if both WS and HS willing to stay together...

this song is sad beyond word... WS letting HS go even its mean he will be hurt or how he will live without one person who make him feel alive or he will miss her to death... because he love her enough that he willing to let her go... its a love that beyond reach...

the scene where 4th look at RX carriage leaving the palace while crying is really sad beyond word.. i just can't imagine how i'm going to handle WS letting HS go.... 

 

[Visually-wandering 10,226]

13 minutes ago, riuenu said:

thanks for confirming @violet90!!

I saw it somewhere back here too, IU is also best(or one of the best, mian, I really joined halfway here, at page 800+) LJG co star in term of chemistry on and off screen(don't bash me if I am wrong),

He is always like a big kid at set, bringing joy and laughter to the rest while taking care of them too...cause of this drama, I fall deeply for Joongi, and abandon my another "part time job", @Visually-wandering know which "part time job I am talking about"

I also hope that they could have another project together..maybe modern time this time...(:

We're doomed @riuenu

I think after this drama ended we have to go to  mental-rehabilitation-center for MLSHR addiction.

[edensor 28,744]

40 minutes ago, riuenu said:

IU fan, correct me if I am wrong, she is normally calmer in real life, more reserved and shy type...

I saw it somewhere back here, she is more lively and cute in SHR BTS, as compared to other drama

Yes, IU is a shy type. She is introvert to people she don't know yet, but when she get closer to them, she is a very loyal and kind friends. You can tell by what people around her said about her. You can also tell with her song collaboration. She helped her hoobae to debut, keeping promises to duet and make song together etc. Friends of her called her a 500 years old mountain (or something like that) lol It's bc she is so mature and have a deep thoughts. She is good analyzing things, which I think is what make her good in a serious and crying scenes. I really think melodrama suit her best. Since YTBLSS, her crying scenes is always heartbreaking.

From all her co star so far, I really adored chemistry she had for JJS and LJG. Both of them is really match her best. What more weird is, they had big age gap with her. I think she really blend well with guy older than her. Maybe bc they can understand and handle her old ahjumma inside lol

But really... I feel like I'm going crazy with her chemistry with Joon Gi. GOSH! They are TOO GOOD! I can't hold my self and let my self loose in shipping themXDD

These days... I'm such a SoSoo JoonU trash! XDDDDD 

Ehem! I'm done with my confession ^^;;;

[atgirlina 7,947]

don't you just hate it when the so call real life messes with your MLSHR schedule. seriously why cant our bosses, our family, and the rest of the world be more understanding of our obsession.

work work work.. haven't been able to spazz about ep 15 properly.

so correct me if i am wrong. 

from the trailer, So killing eun was mercy killing? it was yo who shot the arrows?

we will have a bed scene after a kiss in either ep 16 or 17?

no baseball game to mess with ep 16 next week?

tons of cutesy giff posted in the last 30-50 pages i miss? 

@ruizaio a meeting next week to start the initial approach for dvd/bluray?

maybe i need to infect my boss with MLSHR virus so she can be more understanding of me not handing in works in time? 

#backtowork

[n00nk3y 605]

24 minutes ago, violet90 said:

 

yes.. IU is a lot reserved in real life and in front of camera... because a lot have happen in the past she tend to be distance herself cause did't want to bring any scandal.. 

and she really more open in this drama.. even in bts you can see how she always respond to LJG joke and she even jokes around.. she seem more lively in this drama compared to other and she really bond well with this drama cast especially LJG and KHN.... its also help that LJG seem always try to bring the lively and cute IU around by joking with her... 

LJG is by far the best co star that IU have... in term of their chemistry and also LJG help to bring out the best in IU in term of acting.... 

i sincerely hope they will have another project again cause their chemistry is really off the chart..

 

15 minutes ago, riuenu said:

thanks for confirming @violet90!!

I saw it somewhere back here too, IU is also best(or one of the best, mian, I really joined halfway here, at page 800+) LJG co star in term of chemistry on and off screen(don't bash me if I am wrong),

He is always like a big kid at set, bringing joy and laughter to the rest while taking care of them too...cause of this drama, I fall deeply for Joongi, and abandon my another "part time job", @Visually-wandering know which "part time job I am talking about"

I also hope that they could have another project together..maybe modern time this time...(:

 

So..can we say they bring out the best of each other? Hmm.. sounds like a match made in heaven? 

[riuenu 32,941]

25 minutes ago, violet90 said:

Lim Do Hyuk - Goodbye

  Hide contents

Do you remember?
A guy who wanted to protect you
I got chocked up when I see you
It feels like I’m going to cry

Love you, I’ll remember you forever
Because I wanted to protect you

I was behind of you while you’re leaving
I was looking at you with tears

One day when you think of me
Or when you miss me
Please come find me whenever
Even time goes by

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

Love you, I’ll remember you forever
Because I wanted to protect you

I was behind of you while you’re leaving
I was looking at you with tears

One day when you think of me
Or when you miss me
Please come find me whenever
Even time goes by

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

Wait for me with hiding sad words
Just go without saying
Please don’t look back at me

I couldn’t say this word
The one who I love the most in the world is you

My forever lover, goodbye even I miss you
goodbye for you
I’ll smile for you who live in my mind
goodbye for now

 

when this first release i kinda think wth? i mean the story is turning dark and sad and we have a lively OST??? 

but when i read the lyric my heart stop.... its perfectly describe WS feeling when he let HS go later on... whether its because of his jealousy or misunderstanding or HS suffering.... but deep in WS heart he have to let HS go because of HS herself.. WS will never let HS go if HS did't want to leave him.. they been through a lot and WW issue will be solved if both WS and HS willing to stay together...

this song is sad beyond word... WS letting HS go even its mean he will be hurt or how he will live without one person who make him feel alive or he will miss her to death... because he love her enough that he willing to let her go... its a love that beyond reach...

the scene where 4th look at RX carriage leaving the palace while crying is really sad beyond word.. i just can't imagine how i'm going to handle WS letting HS go.... 

 

actually the farewell of Rouxi between 4th, 8th and 13th while leaving the palace just make my tear drop non stop...no matter how many times I watch it

Spoiler

especially Rouxi hugged 8th when he waited for her outside with his horse, telling her to take care and be happy to be a bride

and 13th as he was the one to send her off to 14th, that farewell hug

but Rouxi didnt hug 4th cause he is only sending at the palace watching the carriage leave while crying, holding on to his pigtail...even typing out the scene now make me feel like crying

but this lyrics...hit my heart more....especially those sentences below

"Wait for me with hiding sad words
Just go without saying
Please don’t look back at me"

such a lively tune with super sad lyrics, I cant imagine how So letting Soo go

19 minutes ago, ratgirlina said:

don't you just hate it when the so call real life messes with your MLSHR schedule. seriously why cant our bosses, our family, and the rest of the world be more understanding of our obsession.

work work work.. haven't been able to spazz about ep 15 properly.

so correct me if i am wrong. 

from the trailer, So killing eun was mercy killing? it was yo who shot the arrows?

we will have a bed scene after a kiss in either ep 16 or 17?

no baseball game to mess with ep 16 next week?

tons of cutesy giff posted in the last 30-50 pages i miss? 

@ruizaio a meeting next week to start the initial approach for dvd/bluray?

maybe i need to infect my boss with MLSHR virus so she can be more understanding of me not handing in works in time? 

#backtowork

@ratgirlina it is a love-hate relationship LOL

 

20 minutes ago, edensor said:

Yes, IU is a shy type. She is introvert to people she don't know yet, but when she get closer to them, she is a very loyal and kind friends. You can tell by what people around her said about her. You can also tell with her song collaboration. She helped her hoobae to debut, keeping promises to duet and make song together etc. Friends of her called her a 500 years old mountain (or something like that) lol It's bc she is so mature and have a deep thoughts. She is good analyzing things, which I think is what make her good in a serious and crying scenes. I really think melodrama suit her best. Since YTBLSS, her crying scenes is always heartbreaking.

From all her co star so far, I really adored chemistry she had for JJS and LJG. Both of them is really match her best. What more weird is, they had big age gap with her. I think she really blend well with guy older than her. Maybe bc they can understand and handle her old ahjumma inside lol

But really... I feel like I'm going crazy with her chemistry with Joon Gi. GOSH! They are TOO GOOD! I can't hold my self and let my self loose in shipping themXDD

These days... I'm such a SoSoo JoonU trash! XDDDDD 

Ehem! I'm done with my confession ^^;;;

Spoiler

I like her from dreamhigh, and I start to follow her news from YTBLSS, yes, she and JJS are adorable together as well...but her chemistry with Joongi simply went off chart.

Coincidentally, she is very close to my bias as well, in one of the interview, he mention he and IU monitor each other composed song..so ya, that is when I follow IU closely..haha

I am a SHR trash, SoHae trash and now...JoonU trash..omg...ottoke...

 

[Hanazumi 1,661]

@riuenu@LyraYoo So I am going to do some calculations to estimate how many people have watched Moon Lovers - Scarlet Heart: Ryeo. This is by no means an official count. Let's start!

1.7 billion views on Youku

The population of Malaysia + Singapore + Indonesia + Hong Kong + Taiwan + Vietnam + Thailand + Philippines + Korea + Japan: (31,230,000 + 5,610,000 + 255,461,700 + 7,234,800 + 23,508,362 + 91,700,000 + 67,959,000 + 100,981,437 + 76,497,881 + 127,110,047) = 787293227 in total.

If we go by the amount of subscribers on Naver which is 50,890, then

50,890 / 76,497,881 (Korea's population) x 787293227 = at least 523,745 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

If we go by the percentage of audience watching in Singapore and Malaysia which is 73%, then

787293227 x .73 = at least 574,724,056 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

So the total number of views for MLSHR is from 1.7 billion views to about 2,274,724,056 views.

And if we add in views from live stream, that could be higher.

If the trend continues, MLSHR's views on Youku should reach 1.8 billions by the time episode 16 airs.

And we have 5 more episodes left so that means,

5 more episodes x 200,000,000 = 1 billion views

1.8 billion views + 1 billion views + 574,724,056 (if it is constant) = 3,374,724,056 total views or more

And remember, even though Uncontrollably Fond is the most watched drama on Youku, I did not find sources stating that it was aired in Japan or Philippines.

[violet90 21,973]

Just now, riuenu said:

actually the farewell of Rouxi between 4th, 8th and 13th while leaving the palace just make my tear drop non stop...no matter how many times I watch it

  Hide contents

especially Rouxi hugged 8th when he waited for her outside with his horse, telling her to take care and be happy to be a bride

and 13th as he was the one to send her off to 14th, that farewell hug

but Rouxi didnt hug 4th cause he is only sending at the palace watching the carriage leave while crying, holding on to his pigtail...even typing out the scene now make me feel like crying

but this lyrics...hit my heart more....especially those sentences below

"Wait for me with hiding sad words
Just go without saying
Please don’t look back at me"

such a lively tune with super sad lyrics, I cant imagine how So letting Soo go

 

the most heart breaking scene for me is when 4th just crying watching RX go.... also because they never meet each other again and RX can't even said her farewell before she dies.... that's just make me bawling everytime i watch BBJX tbh...

the problem with me in this drama is how they portray WS love toward HS is so much deeper and raw compared to 4th... WS is more vulnerable and more expressive about his love than 4th.. so to think that he have to let go one person that he love the most is really make my heart broke... 

i think the scene where in 6 min trailer HS looking back in tears is the scene where she will leave WS.. WS will watching from a far afraid that he can't let her go if he have to send her and he can't do anything just silently cry just like 4th... okay typing this make me cry...

i just hope i can handle that scene........ 

 

 

[riuenu 32,941]

26 minutes ago, Visually-wandering said:

We're doomed @riuenu

I think after this drama ended we have to go to  mental-rehabilitation-center for MLSHR addiction.

@Visually-wandering uni, yes we are doomed! we are now spamming each other on 4 platforms for SHR, Line/IG/twitter(quite seldom) and here....well, not as I complain off..glad to have you for me to start discussing with before I had came in this forum 

[minekas 14,222]

I've started collecting MLSHR stuff, sharing these pix for your viewing pleasure 

Spoiler

 

cr as tagged

[gayatritunggadewi 201]

3 hours ago, riuenu said:

But I doubt that Lion King will think this week, he even resulting in physically abuse her, by grabbing her wrist so hard and wanna kill her with the arrow!

Am wondering...who drift from who first in next episode...So from Soo or Soo from So...

In the front part of this spoiler tag BTS, the unseen scene should be appearing in next episode...Soo and So treating each other coldly...and notice that So is calling Soo HaeSoo instead of Soo, correct me if I am wrong..he seldom call her, HaeSoo right, I mean right in front of her...except the scene after rain ritual...but from his expression, he doesnt seem to be the one drifting from Soo...

hmmm side track abit, is that the outfit So is wearing at the kissu scene? minus the outer layer of the black vest?

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credit to JGfamily82 youtube

but from preview voiceover..it seem like So had promise Yo that he would just live as the King's dog..without Soo, and Soo voiceover also saying..you havent forgotten me yet, right?

I not too sure have this been discuss already..I may miss out post..cause..this wonderful thread is really moving too fast

Wow... So and Soo gonna treat each other coldly??!!! 

Could you please send me Youtube link for spoiler/teaser/preview where So-Soo treat each other coldly... 

[riuenu 32,941]

4 minutes ago, violet90 said:

 

the most heart breaking scene for me is when 4th just crying watching RX go.... also because they never meet each other again and RX can't even said her farewell before she dies.... that's just make me bawling everytime i watch BBJX tbh...

the problem with me in this drama is how they portray WS love toward HS is so much deeper and raw compared to 4th... WS is more vulnerable and more expressive about his love than 4th.. so to think that he have to let go one person that he love the most is really make my heart broke... 

i think the scene where in 6 min trailer HS looking back in tears is the scene where she will leave WS.. WS will watching from a far afraid that he can't let her go if he have to send her and he can't do anything just silently cry just like 4th... okay typing this make me cry...

i just hope i can handle that scene........ 

 

 

yes...the last "farewell" they have(Rouxi and 4th) is when 4th told Rouxi...he finally letting her go, cause of misunderstanding, Rouxi didnt manage to hug 4th goodbye, even typing to you now...I have tears in my eyes already, this is how bad BBJX affecting me...

Yes, So love towards Soo is deeper and more obsessive, 4th is colder as compared to So, not as in 4th doesnt love Rouxi deep, just that 4th world doesnt evolve around Rouxi yet seem like Soo is what keep So going.

You mean this right? haha, it make me cry while looking at your post as well...well, I don't think I could handle that scene well, if it is like what you had written...I think I might need to take leave or MC from work...cause my eyes will be like goldfish and I will be having mood swing for at least a week.....

credit to Mantou twitter

[MiharuD 629]

22 hours ago, zi4r said:

Hey, Eclipses! I'm the crazy LJG fan that kept spamming here about hallyuvote.com and calling for reinforcements Monday and Tuesday.

Anyway, I was rotating on 4 different networks to vote (home, mobile and 2 vpns) to avoid blocking. Last night, work went crazy so I couldn't go back to the site. But today, whole day, I haven't been able to access the site at all. At first, I thought it was temporarily down or something, so I went to sleep for a few hours... but when I woke up this afternoon and realized I still couldn't access (And it seems you all have been able to?), I realize it's just me.

I don't know how they can ban me on all my devices (different IPs). All my network addresses (including the VPNs) are SG & Malaysia... so, can any of you from SG & Malaysia access? Have they geo-fenced it? Sigh... I dunno what's going on.

Anyway, if any of you chats there, please let other LJG Angels know that zi4r apologizes. I'm so pissed. 

@car148 @KdramaSwimmer @chi13lou @qwenli @rei_smasher11 @MadraRua @meahri_1 @Hanazumi @kyar7jizhenll @Yippeuni @gayatritunggadewi @soorani @dramu51ch0c10ve @MiharuD @Diana Blanche and whoever else that voted (I might have missed out a few of you that have messaged me), thank you so much. Fighting!!!

 

EDIT: In case you all are voting there and there's no one to coordinate, the way to do is

Vote again & again until "We've already counted your vote" appears on the yellow bar. That means, you've been blocked. If that happens, DON'T VOTE ANYMORE (your vote won't count), wait 3 minutes, refresh, and you can vote again. Don't do too fast; you'll get banned (The "cooling off period" message will appear when you're banned. It takes about 20 minutes to a few hours to get unbanned). 

 

@zi4r

I got blocked too  and I'm from eu and voted 'cautious' but...  Anyway LJK now has 1 million and the other 900.000 something.. 

[SizzlerZ 5,492]

11 minutes ago, violet90 said:

 

the most heart breaking scene for me is when 4th just crying watching RX go.... also because they never meet each other again and RX can't even said her farewell before she dies.... that's just make me bawling everytime i watch BBJX tbh...

the problem with me in this drama is how they portray WS love toward HS is so much deeper and raw compared to 4th... WS is more vulnerable and more expressive about his love than 4th.. so to think that he have to let go one person that he love the most is really make my heart broke... 

i think the scene where in 6 min trailer HS looking back in tears is the scene where she will leave WS.. WS will watching from a far afraid that he can't let her go if he have to send her and he can't do anything just silently cry just like 4th... okay typing this make me cry...

i just hope i can handle that scene........ 

 

 

 

I really don't want to see the two part like that. In BBJX why does RX have to leave 4th? Sorry if this has already been discussed.

[qwenli 62,602]

12 minutes ago, Hanazumi said:

@riuenu@LyraYoo So I am going to do some calculations to estimate how many people have watched Moon Lovers - Scarlet Heart: Ryeo. This is by no means an official count. Let's start!

1.7 billion views on Youku

The population of Malaysia + Singapore + Indonesia + Hong Kong + Taiwan + Vietnam + Thailand + Philippines + Korea + Japan: (31,230,000 + 5,610,000 + 255,461,700 + 7,234,800 + 23,508,362 + 91,700,000 + 67,959,000 + 100,981,437 + 76,497,881 + 127,110,047) = 787293227 in total.

If we go by the amount of subscribers on Naver which is 50,890, then

50,890 / 76,497,881 (Korea's population) x 787293227 = at least 523,745 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

If we go by the percentage of audience watching in Singapore and Malaysia which is 73%, then

787293227 x .73 = at least 574,724,056 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

So the total number of views for MLSHR is from 1.7 billion views to about 2,274,724,056 views.

And if we add in views from live stream, that could be higher.

If the trend continues, MLSHR's views on Youku should reach 1.8 billions by the time episode 16 airs.

And we have 5 more episodes left so that means,

5 more episodes x 200,000,000 = 1 billion views

1.8 billion views + 1 billion views + 574,724,056 (if it is constant) = 3,374,724,056 total views or more

And remember, even though Uncontrollably Fond is the most watched drama on Youku, I did not find sources stating that it was aired in Japan or Philippines.

I am sorry but to highlight to u, although it's 1.7 billion views on youku, u hv to divide that by 15 EPs, which means it's more or less 100mil per ep n one person may watch twice.

In Singapore, it is only screen on cable TV, so the number of pax is even lesser, it's just that it's top in taxable TV channels now 

[riuenu 32,941]

13 minutes ago, Hanazumi said:

@riuenu@LyraYoo So I am going to do some calculations to estimate how many people have watched Moon Lovers - Scarlet Heart: Ryeo. This is by no means an official count. Let's start!

1.7 billion views on Youku

The population of Malaysia + Singapore + Indonesia + Hong Kong + Taiwan + Vietnam + Thailand + Philippines + Korea + Japan: (31,230,000 + 5,610,000 + 255,461,700 + 7,234,800 + 23,508,362 + 91,700,000 + 67,959,000 + 100,981,437 + 76,497,881 + 127,110,047) = 787293227 in total.

If we go by the amount of subscribers on Naver which is 50,890, then

50,890 / 76,497,881 (Korea's population) x 787293227 = at least 523,745 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

If we go by the percentage of audience watching in Singapore and Malaysia which is 73%, then

787293227 x .73 = at least 574,724,056 people watching from the 10 countries combined (not counting China or US).

So the total number of views for MLSHR is from 1.7 billion views to about 2,274,724,056 views.

And if we add in views from live stream, that could be higher.

If the trend continues, MLSHR's views on Youku should reach 1.8 billions by the time episode 16 airs.

And we have 5 more episodes left so that means,

5 more episodes x 200,000,000 = 1 billion views

1.8 billion views + 1 billion views + 574,724,056 (if it is constant) = 3,374,724,056 total views or more

And remember, even though Uncontrollably Fond is the most watched drama on Youku, I did not find sources stating that it was aired in Japan or Philippines.

Daebak!! you are not only good in history...your mathematics jjang as well!!! My godness...you are so awesome seriously @Hanazumi

and yes, I double and triple check to make sure I got ur nick right this time....

[riuenu 32,941]

3 minutes ago, gayatritunggadewi said:

Wow... So and Soo gonna treat each other coldly??!!! 

Could you please send me Youtube link for spoiler/teaser/preview where So-Soo treat each other coldly... 

Hmmm...it seem like...coldly or way too polite...they are back like back to King Taejo days...

Spoiler

This is the video I am talking about...I dont think this scene had been shown, from 00:01 to 00:26, after that its all BTS 

 

 

[q4q4 13,867]

4 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

 

I really don't want to see the two part like that. In BBJX why does RX have to leave 4th? Sorry if this has already been discussed.

I really hope they leave out the whole separation thing.. I'm gonna ignore it and hold on to that last part of the trailer where WS says: "I will never let you go" 

[violet90 21,973]

1 minute ago, SizzlerZ said:

 

I really don't want to see the two part like that. In BBJX why does RX have to leave 4th? Sorry if this has already been discussed.

 

well people going to say that RX have enough with palace and throne battle... 4th as a king is doing his job to secure his position but a lot of people that he punish is somebody that RX care about.. so that one distance 4th and RX relationship.. RX miscarriage and lastly because RX know her time is up so she just want to live the life that she been dreaming off.. outside the palace and live with a peaceful mind... she dies in 14th arm with a wish that she want to forget everyone and everything because she suffer so much being in this era...

its just a tragic story for both RX and 4th.....

[kyar7jizhenll 866]

@Para12012 WS did not kill Eun's child in real history as WE was not even recorded as married and died in 945 possibly along with his grandfather's revolt army in the beginning of WY's reign. WS killed two of his nephews (1) WM's son was killed later in his mid-reign as he was trying to revolt (2) WY's son earlier in his reign but I'm not sure about the reason or the year he was killed. 

@parmma Chingu, Where do u get this Jisoo's picture from? Is this going to be for this drama? It seems like he's matured and was in some kind of official position. As far as I know, this is Jisoo's first ancient drama.

@Suzy Ann Well, when WS asked HS about whether Jung was in her room the night before during their confrontation, he hasn't realized that she loves him back.  She initiated the kiss after he told her he loves her but before this confrontation, it always has been one-sided love from WS though he had been stealing kisses from here. He even mentioned that she should not give him hope if she was not going to come to him during her Bday night out by the lake under the broad sky  HS actually hasn't confessed in words that she love him yet and we're hoping that she would in the later episodes though Ruoxi never said so in Cv but vaguely mentioned in her last letter to 4th just before her death. 

@ruizaio Just to let you about possibility of using 9th older brother as one of the princes for this drama is very slim as he seemed to die young though history can't give exact DOB or DOD for most of these princes. That prince might not have reached to his teenage years or marriageable age as well as the grandson of General Hong, one of the 4 generals who put Taejo on the throne since this family was also powerful one and he was given crown prince rank plus his sister was married to Crown Prince Wang Tae, eldest brother of WY, WS, WJ and eldest son of Queen Yoo who was shown just died in this drama when WS face was ruined by that crazy QY.

Also, for those of you suggesting GHJ reincarnating as Queen Demok (YH) would happy ending but there will be NOT as much great story as current one if that was the case.  YH's character was very complex and she was the incinerator of most of the negative impacts to the story line from the beginning and she was the character who had relations with all the characters in the story (except Woohee, might have some later) though she did not have much scenes and she was not main antagonist.  

@vu_hoa1983 Actually, in both history and this drama Muu's issue with getting accused of not deserving as CP is not only due to his in-laws but mainly because of his maternal family though drama seems to stress a little more on his in-laws.  However, it was actually mentioned about his maternal uncle owing money and overcharging taxes while WY's supporters were trying to cause rift between CP and WS.  His grandfather was just a magistrate of small town, Naju, in the north without money or powerful clan backing. Taejio seemed to be really in love with her according to history (I felt Lady Oh Sangon character was fictionalized characterization of Queen Janghwa, CP WM's mom with last name Oh though she was supposedly already died during the time the drama was set). Taejo met her in the flower field/ grass field during his service as general service under Gung Ye but she died very early and it was one of the reasons WM was very dear to Taejo wanted to give throne to him and QY's resentment of him being CP without having powerful maternal clan. Historically, WM was entitled as future king since he was 12 (very early in life and even before most of his brothers were born). 

@riuenu @violet90 Yes, that scene was already shown in last episode (15).  It was after HS had face-off conversation with WY and WW and it was when WS told HS that people who he was looking for in truth were WE and SD.

Chingues...got to sleep! It is so late in the night or very early in the morning here...another victim of MLSHR's punishment