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Just watched Ep 15 and I was holding my breath until the last second and to end like that...WHY ARE YOU TORTURING US SBS?! Seriously, I was already prepared to be heartbroken. i was expecting that the episode will end to Eun and SD "passing" but it didn't! SBS is torturing us! Now I need to carry this sad/anxious feeling over the weekend. 

Wook is so dead to me. KHN you did a great job portraying Wook that I decided to change my avatar tomorrow to my love Wang So hahaha

I'm so addicted to this series and forum that I forgot that Wang So isn't my boyfriend IRL. :D 

After this series ends, I think I will go hiking and avoid this forum as I may suffer separation anxiety. Lol

I don't know what will I feel to next week's episodes. Am I going to be heartbroken because of Eun and SD or super happy because my OTP will go to the next level! 

SHR you're ruining my life but I like it! :tounge_xd:

PS. About the latest BTS -  If I were IU, I will take advantage of LJK and passionately kiss him, my bf will understand LOL but seriously LJK is so hot! 

 

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1 hour ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

@faeriealice and @yongwonhi4jfc

Excuse me while I chime in. You were having such a fascinating discussion that it led me on a particular train of thought.

 

There were two things that were said in Ep. 15 that I'd like to relate to this discussion about Su-So's romance and how an "epic romance" might play out in relation to that:

"Wolves are known to follow one female wolf until death" -- Super Baddie Yo

"For you feelings and marriage are all just silly games. They aren't life and death like they are for me. Don't be confident that you
will not change, no one says such things in the palace." -- Yeon Hwa

 

With reference to the above quotes, there is evidently a clear message that this romance between Su and So is an anomaly... an anomaly of Goryeo and perhaps an anomaly of history. Their romance shouldn't exist and can't exist in the midst of an epic game of thrones battle royale and brutal palance politics. This is absolutely no rom com. Their love may be a refuge from the storms of palace gamemanship but that's all it is. (Sorry!) Such a love doesn't belong in Goryeo and as it turns out very dangerous in the wrong hands. Love like that holds people hostage and is potentially explosive within the system. There might be moments of respite for the couple but their romance is one that cannot thrive in such times without grand gestures of defiance that have serious consequences.

When Yo (sorry, can't take him seriously as King but he's still loads of fun) calls So a wolf, or a beast and juxtaposes that with monogamy, it's a bit of a shock to the system for us modern types. For him monogamy is only some thing some animals do. A rarity... an abnormality. Polygamy is the norm... it's a true human instinct to mate endlessly and to corpulate with multiple women because it is a privilege offered only to men. 

For a prince to dedicate his entire life to one woman is a completely radical concept. In Goryeo at least. It's so radical that Yo attributes it to So's animalistic tendencies. For him it defies convention and it defies reason. It isn't just an insult but an observation that what So is involved in is not the norm. For that So will pay and he (Yo) will make sure of it.

Yeon Hwa whatever her faults are has a high degree of self-awareness. She knows exactly what she is. She also acknowledges that she needs love but in order to that, she needs to survive first and foremost in this male dominated dog eat dog environment. So she plays the game. However, Su comes along and proves her wrong on a certain level. So being in love with Su shows that it is possible to be so loved by a man that he will throw away everything including his own pride and ambition for a woman. This is earth-shattering stuff for Yeon Hwa has been nothing but political marriage fodder. However, although envious on a certain level, Yeon Hwa is also correct that Su doesn't understand fully the ramifications of what it means to be loved by So and what that will do to him and to her in the long-term. Especially now that So has completely tied his identity/destiny to hers. Love is this unadulterated form is dangerous... and potentially explosive.

And explode it will... judging from the next week's preview... 

I might add that the writer is super clever picking one of the least polygamous kings in all of K history to drive home this point. It is surely no accident that history records that Wang So had one wife and a concubine.

For Su marriage is about love but for everyone else around marriage is about expediency especially in the political arena. Marrying for affection doesn't compute,,, in fact frowned upon and scorned. These people are playing for such high stakes... Love?... Pooh! That's for kiddies who don't know better.

In a real enough way their romance is epic because it is bigger than what they are capable of handling. To love so openly and freely in Goryeo is to bring upon yourself not only world of hurt but the whole world against you. It defies a certain kind of logic, political commonsense and pragmatism. It's a powder keg waiting to be lit.

I imagine that this is what Uk was trying to insulate himself from. Admittedly he did succeed, while failing at the same time. While he did shield himself from the attacks of others, not being able to express that love, however, has set him on a road to self-destruction and implosion.

I suppose in a real enough way, the writer is saying that love is a gamble. The stakes are very very high.  To tie yourself to one person so closely is to make yourself vulnerable and yet when it happens it can be the most beautiful thing.

Like a rose that grows in a middle of a cesspit.

(Herein ends the essay)

@40somethingahjumma! I always love your post..whenever I saw u posting in here...I will always take extra look, your post always reach my heart...thanks for your wonderful essay and insight....Oh man, I am really a fangirl of you, keep posting when you free ya

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@riuenu

HAHAHA...naughty LJK....i cannot even...haha

If he had his way....all rehearsals of KISSES would be the actual thing....:lol:

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1 hour ago, Siracusa said:

Finally able to watch episode 15 and can give my two cents.

Count me on the bandwagon that it's not a matter of Soo not trusting So. CR told her that Eun's household got executed and she knows that So has to look for Eun on Yo's orders. The body count is adding up and she sees the writing on the wall. She is coming up with her own plan to save Eun and SD independent of So because time is of the essence and she knows that So will follow through with Yo's orders in order to protect so she is trying anything and everything to help save Eun and SD. Is her idea flawless? Well, who didn't put away their origami toys that led to them getting caught?

I just rewatched the part where Soo is talking to So and declines to share the whereabouts with Eun with him. I take back my previous post because i literally facepalmed when I rewatched this scene. FFS, Soo. Why do we still not trust So? It's not as if he hasn't proven himself over the past four years or anything.

I blame this on the writers, this is lazy writing. The writers should feel bad about themselves. Four years has progressed in the series and we're 3/4 through the series and they're still having Soo be fearful of So and her premonitions for no reason other than contrived tension. Yo is telling to So to kill Eun, that's enough natural tension right there. Why go back to Soo not trusting So? Whatever development or maturity the Soo character gained is negatived because the writers still need her to be distrustful just so they can continue beating the dead horse. We get it. Soo comes from the future and has prior knowledge about history. Soo and So literally just promised each other in episode 14 not to lie or omit truths from each other. What is the point of episode 14 if the writers are just going to undo it? This episode is just a giant wae.

I wish I could take a red pen and just edit this series to make it more cohesive. Yes, it would probably cut it down to fifteen episodes but if the writers need to fulfill a contractual obligation for twenty episodes then just tack on a couple of episodes of So and Soo dating in modern times.

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3 minutes ago, berny said:

@riuenu

HAHAHA...naughty LJK....i cannot even...haha

If he had his way....all rehearsals of KISSES would be the actual thing....:lol:

and...how many times they actually rehearse it...and even on screen, he is still, puckering his lip to welcome the kiss..

and I guess...we got couple of upcoming kiss too...dear SBS...can we have ALL the BTS for ALL the KISSES..I mean all!

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1 minute ago, fuyukoneko said:

 

SD asks her to send a message to her father through WS or JM. HS couldn't find either of them, so she left a letter for SD's dad on the desk that WS uses that's in JM's tower/office/home. Not sure why she wouldn't be worried someone else would see the letter.

 

Ahhhhhh, thank you! Okay, I got the context but still confused about how the aftermath was handled, lol. Oh well, perhaps it'll be explained a little bit next week (my heart hurts thinking about the convo So and Soo will have re: Eun and SD).

 

The more I think about it, the more I'm anticipating Jung blaming So for the entire freakin' thing re: Eun. (I know I said this earlier, but it's really annoying me whenever I rewatch the preview. haha) Never mind that it's Yo calling the shots. I sincerely hope Jung surprises me but he's so biased against So that I'm not expecting anything else.

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Hmm after I watch MLSHR until ep 15th, I guess Hae Soo felt wishy washy toward So. First, she most likely accepted his love for her but when the premonition occured, she felt terrified toward So. Just like Seon Deok said, every lovers should have a trust and faith toward each other. Soo should have trust and faith towards So eventhough she knows that So will be Gwangjong.

Sometimes I felt that Hae Soo hadn't learn about her life problems. Please Hae Soo.. I hope in the next episode, Hae Soo could be more wise than before.

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Big Question:

Why JM tell WS that something must have changed since 3rd wasn't meant to be the king??

So, I get the creative aspect of it that, 3rd was never meant to be the king but time travel changed something that led 3rd become the king..and THAT is the history we know about..

 

BUT WHAT CHANGED? And who changed it? Why did HS and us Know but JM didn't

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To those people defending Soo and arguing that she protected Eun for So's sake, I really wish I could believe that. I really really want to believe that because that means she has more trust in So and that she's actually taking control and being active about things

The problem is that the director accompanies her fear with her visions and premonitions of 'Gwangjeong' and of So smiling and swing around his sword. What this tells me is that she's afraid OF him, not afraid FOR him. If the director went with the episode without such accompanying visions, then I would feel safe in believing that she is doing this in order to protect So. But because of this, it is FAR more likely that she is afraid of him and that she doesn't fully trust him which frankly is really sad...and frustrating.

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One word to sum up ep 15.. INTENSE. 

I was on the edged of my seat the entire time I was watching ep 15 cause I didn't know what was gonna happen.. is another person gonna die? What will this sickening "King" Yo do next with his goons, Wook and Won.. 

All I can say is.. WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO EUN AND SOON DUK????? 

Did So really killed them in the preview???? It's the same as Soo's vision a while back right??? So killing Eun..?? 

Dreading next week's episode cause I really don't wanna see Eun and Soon Duk dying.. but then again, can't wait for next week! 

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17 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

Big Question:

Why JM tell WS that something must have changed since 3rd wasn't meant to be the king??

So, I get the creative aspect of it that, 3rd was never meant to be the king but time travel changed something that led 3rd become the king..and THAT is the history we know about..

 

BUT WHAT CHANGED? And who changed it? Why did HS and us Know but JM didn't

I think that what cause the change was HS warning WW about WS. I don't think it's her relationship with WS that caused the change.

The fact that right after that scene we see WW repeating what HS told him connived me.

Also 3rd prince would not have been successful with the revolt if not for WW. Like WS said, he is not that smart to pull it off on his own. WW assisted him a lot. He basically did all the work. 

HS telling WW to be careful of WS shifted his personality in some way I believe and made him determine to bring down WS even if it meant siding with 3rd prince.

He doesn't want the warning to come true, he doesn't want WS getting the throne, anyone but WS, especially after he lost HS to him. Those are his thoughts. 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not making excuses for WW's behavior and trying to blame HS. WW is savage!! But I do believe what HS said cause all this.  

Also i'm not sure HS knew 3rd prince would become king. Yes she had hre vision but she always kept thinking WS was the one who would kill everyone else. 

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for whatever reason that HS did not tell WS about Eun....... what she actually doing is to make the history unfold itself.. WS will have to force to kill Eun and he will change himself... its what HS need to do to place Eun and WS in their position... IF she tell WS the only thing he can do is the same.. try to let Eun ran and WY still going to catch Eun and WS still have to do that... its a damn time rule..... whatever HS try to do to stop the history there always a price for it.. history cannot be altered it can be delay but surely it will happen either way...

and that what the writer want.... LOL

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16 hours ago, berny said:

AND THIS HAPPENED ...
BTS of their KISS..... (Ep 14)

What is this LJK-ssi???  hmm02-smiley-face.gif ..explain...explain !

You're so excited ....and you just can't hide it? 
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And this....and this.....LOOK AT THIS  hidden contents

 

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IT'S JUST REHEARSAL FIRST.....and LJE kissed the air ... lol1-onion-head-emoticon.gif  ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

 

Y-aaahhh Oppa ...were you expecting she'll do the actual kiss already??? it's just practice first eh?

Is this your disappointed smirk...  big-grin2-smiley-face.gif

 

 

Cannot contain the feels huh....???  mmmmmmmm.....
 

wwHA HA HA  :lol:

 

 

 

 

LJK:   Me?  Me ?
 

Yes you !  you ! you're so  naughtyyyyyyy ! 

Here is the INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE

You totally puckered your lips on a supposedly "surprised" KISS ...y-ahhhhhh !!!
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hi hi hi...  

SEE THAT !!!!!  SEE THAT !!!!
:phew: Ch-ooo ♥

 

 

Naughty LJK. Muahahahah!!! I love it when he smirk :love::love::love:

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...actually despite all the negative reviews and criticism to IU's acting and chemistry... I really think they do make a good pair.

Whether it is Lee Jun Ki leading IU into the role and chemistry, it does work! Perhaps Cecilia Liu set the bar too high in the Chinese version.

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