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So I'm trying to read everyone's awesome writing and people who have seen the Chinese version of Moon Lovers has expressed that in that version RX starts hating on the 4th prince and does everything in her power so that the 4th prince will let her leave the palace due to misunderstandings.  Mind you I have not watched the Chinese version ( and I can't at this time watch any other drama due to my obsession with Moon Lovers), but I just can't imagine Soo leaving So. I mean honestly we have what, like 6 episodes left and I have yet to see Soo love So like he loves her. I remember someone quoting a couple of pasages from the story (sorry, I don't remember who and where but it was here on Soompi) about how she saw the 4th prince and realized how beautiful he is and how all all the moments lead to this moment and even if she grows old or die, she would still remember him at this moment recalling exactly how he looked in that moment (something like that). This drama still owes me that! Soo has yet to show any epic love to my 4th prince as of yet.  There's so little time left for her to gaze longingly at him, to want to constantly be touching him and to seek him out.  So is always doing that to her. Anyways I'm just ranting because I don't want Soo to hurt my 4th prince in anyway or form. 

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14 minutes ago, Hanazumi said:

 

Ah, it was to let you all know about the hallyu voting thing. The site crashed so I was able to find the original link to the polls. But I didn't intend for the post to get so many likes so I removed it :D.

Ahh got that... :)

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15 hours ago, qwenli said:

you have an awesome husband! lol

mine, watches with me but keep asking me questions for e.g why must 4th marry the princess, why did crazy eoma hair turn white...why did Jung like HS now.... who are 3 white person (JM,CP and So when young)....why... why...:sweatingbullets: all the time, while I am typing my live recap.....lol 

That makes me understand for some ordinary viewers, its really hard to follow the show if they dun follow the background.:D

I know. He is my Wang So and he ride bike because he doesnt like to drive. You see, I have my 2 wheel Ferrari too :lol:

True, kinda hard to watch and understand if they dont follow the background of the story. 

 

15 hours ago, kaiskloset said:

cant stop smiling...

hahaha this is soo  #cute!

 

Oh!! I wish I was that girl :kiss_wink::kiss_wink:

 

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40 minutes ago, MadraRua said:

 

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On a side note, I completely agree with all of you talking about what to do after Moon Lovers is finished broadcasting. I'm going to have serious withdrawal symptoms from the drama and this thread... 

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@MadraRua me too...I think I will be still lurking around here for long...how to get back to my real life....

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12 minutes ago, riuenu said:

hahahahhahaha, I cant move on as well..oh man...I been repeating the BTS since yesterday, and please dun ask me how many times I repeat...I LOST COUNT!

and this..I still root much for this reaction of him LOLOLOLOL, credit DC owner via rosegarden1996 twitter

 

 

 

He was  like "Me..? Me..?" acting all innocent ...this guy really ..just he wait til i get my hands on him HAHHAA   ok-smiley-face.gif:P

 

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1 hour ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

And I saw one of my notifications that you mentioned me in one of ur posts but not sure why I cant seem to find where did you mention me..and what that talk about..

And regarding Time Between Dog and Wolf, the title is such a masterpiece because we just don't know who's our friend and enemy. I think this speaks clearly to when Hae Soo knelt under the rain for Lady Oh.

From wikipedia, "The unique title is taken from a French saying "L'heure entre chien et loup" and refers to the moments after sunset when the sky darkens and vision becomes unclear, making it difficult to distinguish between dogs and wolves, friends and foe."

The moments after sunset is the rain here. Wang So is the friend (supposedly to be a wolf or future ruthless Gwangjong) while Wook is the foe (supposedly to be a loving gentleman). What I get out of this after putting myself in deep thoughts (when I should be studying for an exam today :cry:) is that rain appears when clouds mask the sunlight and it is just like how the eclipse happens (sun and moon become one). It was such an evoking moment for Hae Soo because unconsciously, she realized the true nature of both So and Wook. I do not remember seeing Hae Soo crying for that rain scene but the rain symbolizes her heartbreak and tears, not just for Hae Soo but for So and Wook also. So is pained to see Hae Soo suffering. Wook is pained because he has chosen to abandon her. Hae Soo is pained because of Lady Oh's sacrifice, So's kindness and Wook's abandonment.

Another quote I got is from the Anatolia Story / The Red River manga (I do not remember the chapter) and it says:

"Twilight invites devils to arise = They say devils roam through the streets when dusk is about to pass into night and those devils sow falsity and confusion. What kind of devil just passed through us, I wonder?"

I think both quotes really describe the rain scene perfectly. Both the sunsets and twilight are referring to the same thing in this drama and that is the rain. It shows Hae Soo's suffering and then her rebirth. It's like she was drowned for a second time and got up again, just like the scene we got in episode 1. Also, it shows whatever is the "old" Hae Soo completely "died" with the rain scene as well as her love for Wook, steering her towards the ship for her and So. It's the water motif again through the rain. I remember Barbrey on DramaBeans mentioned that had Wook chosen Hae Soo, he would probably receive the blessing from the river god and become king. Barbrey on DramaBeans theorized that Hae soo coming out from the bath was important because she was supposed to be seen by all the possible candidates (she saw So separately in the bath). Now I am thinking that the bath scene in episode 1 was like an interview to find the right candidate (from this moment until the rain scene, she was torn between So and Wook) while the rain scene was the decision that Soo has made. She chose So, not Wook. As the rain stops, the sun is brighter and the pleasant smell (hence So) while whatever that is left (odor) is Wook.

I think Earnest Hemingway's A Farewell to Arms probably is a good example of the rain motif.

Feel free to correct me on this.

@bebebisous33@40somethingahjumma@special_bee@dears@kdramawriter@KdramaSwimmer

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3 minutes ago, berny said:

 

He was  like "Me..? Me..?" acting all innocent ...this guy really ..just he wait til i get my hands on him HAHHAA   ok-smiley-face.gif:P

 

that self denial unbelievable face LOL, tell me how to deal with the withdrawal syndrome of that BTS first...

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before we talking about withdrawal syndrome of this..drama :weary:

 

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8am ... good morning fellow inmates

I just woke up and while waking up I stupidly dreamed about ep.16 .... don't judge me, you've all been there

 

so:
While HS holds WE back from running after SD she runs into WS & Daddy who prepare her (attatching some bloodthingy on her back.
She runs on and fights guards and WS runs behind her and slashes her back
While they do that daddy fixes an Arrow to WE chest, who came behind SD and now he stumbles out crying in "Pain" and agony seeing his wife there. 
WS turns around to him and "slashes" him.
All that show is for the stupid Yo-king and his puppies WW and HY, who "by chance" followed their guards to the bath-house
General Park runs out crying and cursing WS "How dare you slaughter my baby. You promised not to touch her. You monster. You Wolf"

Everyone is happy and wants to drink tea, while GP drags of the bodies of his sweeties and HS gets a "report" from JM, as WS needs to attend the tea-party

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Hi... It's my first post here.. It's been a while since my last post in soompi forum.. I know SH:ryeo is a saguek movie, but do u think HS might time jump to the FUTURE again and meet all those princes in the future? I hope this drama will be a long series.. hihihi.. Those princes in 2016, becoming sons of chabeol :P Hahahahahahaha... 

Watching them wearing saguek clothings are surely feeding us as eye candies,but I guess watching them in modern clothings and hanging out together will be so sexy and I can even drool my self imagining them together :)) :)) 

Is is possible for Hae Soo to time jump to future again #scarletheartryeo #writer-nim??? I mean, the C-version have Scarlet Heart 2 sets on modern times :P:P 

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in scarlet heart novel & C-Version the point was that no matter what Rouxi did she couldn't change history even with her knowledge, but in this version the clueless Hae Soo did change history, I find this an interesting major change from the original work, also having 2 characters from the future (Ji Mong & Hae Soo)

 if Hae Soo wasn't there when Wang Yo killed Wang Mu then Wang So would've killed Wang Yo right then & there, but if he did, who's going to believe that it wasn't him who killed Wang Mu? his brothers will turn against him & he'll have no choice but to kill them, Baek Ah might be killed while defending Wang So though, even before Hae Soo he's not the kind of guy who kills without reason, ironically Wang Yo becoming king made Wang So determined to stop the princes from killing each others, 8th, 13th & 14th princes are not going to die, Hae Soo made Wang Yo king, the one she had the least interaction with, & she thought she made Wang So king when she touched his face lol

maybe Ji Mong changed something too, the day Ji Mong told Wang So he was fated to be king that's the day he received the scar on his face, I believe that scar made him a better king for the people though

 

 

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10 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

The colour of Wang Wook's hanbok has changed: it is grey/brown or even black so that the colour is reflecting his darkness. @solelylurkingused to describe Wang Wook as a wolf disguised as a sheep and now, I've come to think that Wang Wook should be more considered as a wolf disguised as a dog, while Wang So's nickname was the dog wolf. Wang Wook seemed to be loyal and nice, just like a dog in the earlier episodes. Here, Wang Wook is connected to the positive qualities of a dog, whereas Wang So was considered as a wolf with the bad qualities of a dog (his social low status). Now, the colour of their handbok is the same: black or dark colours (brown). But they have something more in common: Wang Wook and Wang So were born in the same year so that their astrological sign is the same. And now back to your connection: yes, the title would fit in here too because as time passes on, Wang Wook turns into a wolf, whereas Wang So has become the dog (in a positive way). It is difficult to distinguish them as friend or foe. Since the dog comes from the wolf, they still have some wildness in them so that a dog can become dangerous as well. Notice that Wang So will call himself a dog who will kill people in order to become free again. 

Striking is that Wang Wook and Wang So have a similar view about love and polygamy. Wang Wook has never had more than one wife, unlike his brothers Yo and Won. And it was unusual. Sure, it was an arranged marriage which unlines the difference between So and Wook. Then Wook might have flirted with Hae Soo, but he didn't want to marry her, while lady Hae was still living. If you think about it, Wang Wook has a similar point of view about monogamy, but he was just not firm enough to act on it. When he fell in love with Hae Soo, he realised that he couldn't marry anyone else... if he had to marry, then it would be only Hae Soo. But his ambition and greed were the brakes that stopped him from doing so. 

On the other hand, Wang So has and had the determination and the courage to show how much Hae Soo means to him, despise what the social norms were back then. No wonder that Yo makes fun of Wang So because of that: he insults Wang So and he compares him to an animal, just like @40somethingahjumma pointed it out correctly. Wang Wook has never showed this side of him to Yo and Won. They might know that there is something between Wook and Hae Soo, but not get aware of the deepness of his love for her.  

In my opinion, Hae Soo had an impact on both of them: Hae Soo could see the good qualities of Wang So (dog) and she could tame him, while the opposite happened with Wang Wook. She turned him into a wolf and like it is said, a wolf has only one mate. Everything evolves around Hae Soo.

As conclusion, Wang Wook and Wang So can be associated to the wolf and dog, both animals have positive and negatives sides:

- dangerosity

- freedom

- wildness: a dog can become wild and difficult to control too

- loyalty

- one love

- sense of family and honour: defend his people

- wolf is less bloodthirsty than it was described in the past

- Hierarchy system: alpha-beta / master - dog

Did this answer your question?

 

Then I would like to add something else: Actually the situation that is about to happen is really similar to this situation from the episode 7: Yes, the birthday party! Yo used Eun and Hae Soo to hurt Wang So and it happened in front of everyone. This is exactly the same trap!!

The similarity is that Yo uses Hae Soo again, but this time the roles are reversed: Eun is the victim and Wang So the so called executor, while in the episode 7, Eun was the executor and So the victim. In the episode 7, Yo had set the trap and in the episode 16, Yo has again set the same trap. And Jung will be a witness too, just like the other brothers I guess. Hae Soo is again the leverage, however there is a small change: Hae Soo is well aware that she is Yo's tool to force Wang So to kill Eun, while she had no idea in the episode 7. What looked like a bad joke in the episode 7 was an announcement for the future incident which ends deadly. Back then, it ended with an apology from Eun, but this time Eun dies. 

Thank you for your explanation. I quoted you again though. Not sure if you read that one yet. :) Eunnie, please RIP.

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8 minutes ago, lyaarisa said:

Hi... It's my first post here.. It's been a while since my last post in soompi forum.. I know SH:ryeo is a saguek movie, but do u think HS might time jump to the FUTURE again and meet all those princes in the future? I hope this drama will be a long series.. hihihi.. Those princes in 2016, becoming sons of chabeol :P Hahahahahahaha... 

Watching them wearing saguek clothings are surely feeding us as eye candies,but I guess watching them in modern clothings and hanging out together will be so sexy and I can even drool my self imagining them together :)) :)) 

Is is possible for Hae Soo to time jump to future again #scarletheartryeo #writer-nim??? I mean, the C-version have Scarlet Heart 2 sets on modern times :P:P 

Hi! Welcome! :) It's a drama of only 20 episodes. But I think we will have the ending in the future (last episode). 

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@Hanazumi Just after posting my comment, I could read your second post. I had written myself a long analysis about water:

the different symbols of water and their signification

Water in form of rain or bath can help to see the truth: Mu died drowning and with his death, Hae Soo realises the dangerosity of her situation as well. She is confronted with reality: Yo is a coldhearted and cruel person, she didn't pay attention to him before. Now, the incident has opened up her eyes. 

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