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On 10/11/2016 at 1:52 PM, Razmotte Cazabon said:

He looks ill! his face is weird

I am not surprised. The poor man has been running around trying to save his loved ones, forced to bend to the will of an evil brother on the throne, watching his own back against the other two evil brothers who want him dead. He must be physically and emotionally exhausted. He desperately needs some R&R with Soo ;) and we need some R&R with our OTP :wub: 

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I've been thinking ... I know I shouldn't as it hurts my head

But still ... if HS is getting nervous or scared or such, she grabs the front of her tunic, like her heart is "failing"/skipping a beat

What if :

She is pregnant and dies while giving birth?
... so she still dies, but 1. the baby survives and 2. there is a piece of her left behind for WS

Her health took a beating working as water maid and we know she has to die.
Also woman with heart diseases are still treated with extra care as risky pregnancy,
but in those times there were no real good medications for heart patients, let alone
pregnant heart patients ... the risk of death while giving birth was high (or shortly after).

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Just now, itzibitzispider said:

 

She is pregnant and dies while giving birth?
... so she still dies, but 1. the baby survives and 2. there is a piece of her left behind for WS

 

Think HS doesn't get to carry the baby to term. I think she's meant have a long term illness since kneeling in the rain and the beating she took in prison, but from Ep 14 - 15 she doesn't look weak after and her limp seemed to have healed? 

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9 minutes ago, yongwonhi4jfc said:

 

Think HS doesn't get to carry the baby to term. I think she's meant have a long term illness since kneeling in the rain and the beating she took in prison, but from Ep 14 - 15 she doesn't look weak after and her limp seemed to have healed? 

 

I know .... geeez .... *crying* ... I saw the Chinese original
Don't spoil my dream ... I like my idea much better ... *sniffle*

 

Turning my back at @yongwonhi4jfc 

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@itzibitzispider Sorry mate, if it helps I haven't plucked up the courage to watch Ep 15 as it means I only have 5 more to go. Plus I'm trying to get stressed enough and time my monthly crying quota when angst central hits in the last few episodes. Meanwhile, trying to read Chinese fanfic to ease the paaaain.

God help me whilst I choke on my own drool

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Hello eclips... I'm a newbie in this forum..you can all me fey :blush:

Actually I've been joining soompi for such a long time but not really active. It was after ML release at SBS, I started to lurking in here as silent reader..and you guuuys are so amaaaziing...your analysis, FMV, fanart, etc are really2 good and make this forum going real fast..And I'm happy Junki oppa post some of the FMVs..the creator must be really happy...chukhaeeee...:heart:

 

 

I love ML so muuuuuuchhhh....I've been junki oppa fan since 'my girl' time. My love is growing bigger since he portraying So. So is just so perfect...kekekeke..

Despite of many flaws of this drama, I still love it very much. I hope the rating in SK can go up (pray). And I really hope for Happy Ending..jaebaaall...

 

PS: for the vote I just can't vote again..the page is always loading when I click the 'vote' button :bawling:

I'm also joongki oppa fan, but right now my love for junki oppa is bigger because of So..kekeke

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5 hours ago, Gabi Bros said:

I liked the Queen (wife) of 4th prince in the C-Version. She was so nice and understanding with Ruoxi. I think Wang So will never know about YeonHwa's attempts to kill his beloved Hae Soo or his brothers (specially crown prince that he loved). Maybe is better for him to never know her true self so he can have a bearable life (with YeonHwa as a Queen) after Hae Soo's death. Maybe is better for Hae Soo not to know either all the things YeonHwa did so she can rest in peace, at least thinking YeonHwa is not that bad of a person. Is better specially for Wang So not to know but, as a viewer, it doesn't feel right. YeonHwa suffering of unrequited love is not enough of a punishment. Unfair... But life is more unfair than fair, so I think it would be realistic that way.  

 

I for one am looking forward to WS and HS finding out about her evil ways. If Soo has to die then I hope WS makes YH's life miserable for the rest of his days with her. Just torture her slowly.devil-pink-mouse-emoticon.gif?1292950507laugh-pink-mouse-emoticon.gif?1292950516

Also, I don't think that she actually loves WS. She's just curious about him. In one of the the earlier episodes Yo was being all aggressive towards YH and So came to save her. After he left she told Yo that she was curious about what it would feel like to tame a beast. I think that's all she thinks of So. A stupid wild animal who she would like to control so that in the future with her brains and his brawn they can take the throne. She would rule Goryo and he would be eating out of her hand and following her orders. She wants So to be her dog.afraid-pink-mouse-emoticon.gif?129295050

 

I don't want a realistic ending. F--- realism shooting-soldier-baby-emoticon.gif I watch kdrama to escape from reality. Why can't HS just travel back a 1000 years, find her soulmate and then rule the kingdom together in peace just killing everyone who looks at them the wrong way? LOL

Anyways, after posing the question "can love change history?" in the long trailer, I just don't want the writer to give us a slap in the face and be like,

NO! GROWN UP crazy-monkey-emoticon-135.gif?1292792414  love does not change history. Everyone is going to die and be miserable because I said so.

 

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14 hours ago, irene123 said:

So are the purpose of those scenes to show us that WS, though good by nature, if pushed to the limits by the cruelty of palace life and of lack of love from people around him, would have become ruthless as Gwangjong? And HS prevents this from happening by giving him love and influencing him, bring out the good in him that she sees? 

@irene123 After reading last 3 sentences of your above post, here I'm again posting :blush:  I'm telling myself since last night not to post unless there is nobody saying/responding any particular topic for a couple of days as there are many new comers and new posts everyday to this lovely and lively thread that it has become harder to catch up for everyone and some points became sort of repetitive and somewhat uninteresting/ unappealing to read (at least for me)! It would've been nice and put everyone on same page if we check the first page of the thread before posting our questions or concerns as moderators and some frequent commenters/old bloggers have already put answers/ write-ups to more than 90% of those. Having said that, who will pay attention to cover page and notice the thread's index while thread is moving 20 pages or more everyday and drama is ON FIRE unlike some of us who were lurking for a few weeks before the drama actually aired (or since airing of the first episode) :P Do most of you know that IU and LJK were not even first choice or sure choice of the production team (except KHN was set stone from the beginning) and casting news were posted beginning of the thread???...if you know, Kyar,why're you yulping...your jokes aren't funny anyways duh!!!! :P:P:P Please be aware that this post might contain some of the points different people mentioned previously and I apologize in advance if this sounds repetitive and of no value to the thread :(:(:( 

"Bringing out the best in each other" SHOULD BE for every loving relationship and marriage. That was something I learned during my late teen years from US ABC 7 drama 'Seven Heaven' and something I hoped to achieve for my marriage (though that was another story)!  'You bring out the best in me' was inscribed in the wedding ring of Emily & Reverend and it instilled in me to do the same for wedding rings for unexpected arranged marriage (rolling my eyes) though it didn't happen due to lack of mechanical power to do small inscription inside surface of the ring back home. I really hope that this drama teaches a great lesson for both male and female in audiences in their teens, twenties, those yet to get married  and those that were already married that falling in love and especially marriage is such a blessing for two people among trillions of people to meet, solve life problems and walk life path together as one for many years till death due to fate and deed they sowed together during their past lives. Though I was NOT successful in cherishing and bringing out the best in each other with my ex as the effort needed to be made by both parties (I definitely tried more than 120%), I get really annoyed when I see marriage couples saying let's break up or get divorce easily even for very minute minor problem in life or unimportant argument or past event that did NOT even relate to them!

Time change and people change but you cannot except someone to change to a completely different individual for you!!! Having said that, love and marriage is among two people and it needs great effort to try to understand, trust, respect as an individual (regardless of age, gender, social status, education level) and make some mutual sacrifices/ accommodations for each other from BOTH, I repeat BOTH!!! Being a woman, I truly understand as women always wanting to be prioritized and be savior of someone life. Yes...people can change or rather can adapt/ accommodate different routines due to life circumstances as it requires it, however, it is just imaginary thinking of some of us to totally transform men to become a totally different people. 

You might wonder is Kyar getting crazy from lack of sleep...what's she talking about? My point is both NATURE and NURTURE play roles in shaping people personality, temperaments, thinking and dealing with life obstacles/ experiences :) There is No BLACK or WHITE but different shades of GREY exist in our life and human society and we were molded, adapted and changed by our inner genetic calling but also by our environment and life experiences. We can never evaluate an individual ONLY by their face values and our societal standards as they can be very biased!!! 

In MLSHR, like many of you mentioned, WS was intrinsically good by Nature but Nurture (his parents' way, environments he grew up and circumstances he encountered) gave his face values as someone scary, temperamental and lack of moral but in reality he was someone who was caring, understanding, considerate, royal, trustworthy and nice puppy who would give you back double or triple amount you offer to him. HS's understanding the fact that he had to kill those monks for his survival (although she did not truly get the truth of him needing his mother's acceptance) and her gesture of care for his emotional pain by telling him not to have night mares and live his life in palace to full with his family really redirected So's life path who had inner good building block unlike his parents with selfishness and insecurities. This also indicates that some society biases like "daughters like mothers and sons like father" and "family projects individual characters" could sometimes be untrue and different based on individual as everyone is made up differently. (I'm NOT saying all those saying are totally wrong or we should not totally disregard the environment one grows up in but I'm saying we should NOT based on environment or outside appearances alone especially like most of our Asian society elders are always saying).  For eg., women who had extramarital affairs or married more than once in life (either cuz divorced or widowed) were very much looked down upon in my culture and daughters of those women are considered undesirable for good families and they were expected to do the same as their mothers (believe this beliefs still exist and cause many bad outcomes for a lot of young women). It is the same like sons becoming drunks if their fathers are drunks. If you think reverse psychology, the truth is those kids who grew up in those environments might become those who very much scrutinized affairs/ unforgiving to even extreme extent and hated alcohol to the point of not even being able to withstand its sight due to bad experiences they faced during their earlier years!!! 

Wook, on the other hand, did NOT get to appreciate HS's guidance as she had never seen his bad/ cruel side while they were together and never got to know the real Wook with many insecurities, grudges, resentments and rebellious inner turmoils. It was his inability to live up to HS's expectations (per Wook's opinion not really HS's true thinking) that drove Wook to explode and bring out all his inner turmoils. Although his mom was never outright evil or scheming like cruel queen Yoo, she had a lot of resentments and unspoken grudge deep inside her heart that WW and YH could sense as her children. She brought them up to be proper, gentle, understanding, excellent in etiquettes and expected morals of Goryeo society, she did NOT achieve to teach or to relay inner moral goods/ securities as she, herself, was never brave enough to ruin her face value.  

In reality, Queen Yoo as well as WY were NOT evil.  Yes, they were very cruel and they showed their resentments and their desires outright for everyone to see. Actually, they were very unwise and sorrowful individuals for revealing outright/true with their inner feelings.  Those people in real life are very easy to deal with and avoid but Queen Hwongbo, WW and YH were very politically proper and magnanimous that we really won't know who they truly were. They buried their grudges deep and truly evil ones for not feeling remorse to backstab their close and loved ones. In real life, it will be very hard to predict what those individuals are thinking and avoid their backstabbing. Look @ WW and YH were very loving brother and sister in everyone's eyes and seemed considerate to each other's feelings and life, in reality, they were calculating each other debts towards them, what kind of benefits they would sew from another life's plans and how another status would raise their place in palace.  It is very very very awful to think....

If interested to read what is my reasoning behind Queen Yoo's sorrowful life you can read very end of this previous post...

 

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@trizha1 I agree with almost everything here, I've been speculating whose death ceremony this is?? Has this scene been shown?! Cremation was widespread as Buddhist rite amongst aristocrats and ordinary people and burial wasn't in favour until 1382 when Confucian state of Joseon Dynasty was established (Davies and Mates, 2010:290). So even if it is HS it won't be as devastating as C-BBJX when 4th prince finds out RX wanted her ashes scattered so that she can finally be free from the shackles of the palace. 

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Also, if Ji Mong appeared next to her before she left, do you think Ji Mong is going to be by her side or the person who transports her back to reality? 

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3 minutes ago, yongwonhi4jfc said:

@trizha1 I agree with almost everything here, I've been speculating whose death ceremony this is?? Has this scene been shown?! Cremation was widespread as Buddhist rite amongst aristocrats and ordinary people and burial wasn't in favour until 1382 when Confucian state of Joseon Dynasty was established (Davies and Mates, 2010:290). So even if it is HS it won't be as devastating as C-BBJX when 4th prince finds out RX wanted her ashes scattered so that she can finally be free from the shackles of the palace. 

 

 

@yongwonhi4jfc I think this has been shown. It looks like Lady Hae's funeral back in episode 6....

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8 hours ago, chickenchopflipflop said:


The I honestly feel that MLSHR should be viewed as a work of art, rather than just a drama serial acted out by pretty faces playing for the popularity stakes. 

Hi i am impressed with your observation of the boat ride reflection and the honest kiss. I thought the reflection used at the lake were abit excessive but i guess the director has a purpose in doing that.

Another scene I like to highlight is the death if king Taejo. The bedroom was beautifully lit but he added a black organza to soften the lights in the background and also adding a sombre colour to the serious scene.

Yes one of the reason why I am so drawn to MLSHR is the visual artistic setup the director must have had some art training. 

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