[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[andy78 139,008]

OMG CRUEL KING IS BLAKMAILING WS WITH THE PEOPLE HE LOVES THE MOST ...TREATING HIM LIKE A HUNTING DOG ...QUEEN ADVICED HER SON NOT TO KEEP WS CLOSE...

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Wook bows down to the new King. And then suggests the Yo get his "dog" to go do his dirty work. Obviously so Wook wouldn't have to get his hands dirty. F*** you Wook F*** you!

 

Yo is just watching as he slaughters people. Typical evil. I also gotta say his earrings have gotten rather fancy.

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1 minute ago, shae said:

Yo and Mom's reopened the Salon. Got touchups and facials.

if just they are nice enough ... hae soo can help them ...may be but really not sure

too way evil >,<

[andy78 139,008]

KING BELIVES IS BETTER WITH WS CLOSE...POOR GENERAL I THINK ASKED WS NOT TO HARM HIS DAUGHTER ...TO ONLY KILL THE PRINCE?

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2 minutes ago, feignedreality said:

phish! someone cut off WY, Queen SMS, Won  and Wook's head stat! 

btw did Queen SMS forgot to dye half of her hair or is this some sort of Goryeo ombre style? 

CR should also die for her ignorant!!

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HS to CR: we run the bath, why is there mercury

CR: I really dun know anything

HS: you think I am suspecting you?

CR: the 10th family is being executed, the king is looking for the 10th and his wife

then HS recalls So telling her that he is being sent to look for a traitor. HS has a bad feeling that the "traitor" is 10th and was shocked.

10th and his wife in disguise to look for HS

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Evil Queen doesn't seem to agree with Yo's plan but Yo seems to be resolute...

WS is in his tower..Ji Mong and General Park are there. Looks like he tells them what Yo has ordered him to do? Oh no. General has switched to scary mode...can you please go and Kill Yo for us all? 

WS and HS talk in the gardens...secret meetings are supposed to be fun and full of kisses, not like this. *sobs* WS is very serious and HS is worried? He strokes/pats her head and THEY HUG. It's not a kiss but I'll take it

HS is talking to CR who looks GUILTY AS HEEEELLLLLLLLLL

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55 minutes ago, Chickpea said:

Greetings... thinking about Ep 14 in my sleep (egads!)...  Yes, but, as the disclaimer at the beginning of the drama says, the drama takes a creative license to history.  As things are working out, the only "creative license" is that a woman from the future is the reason So kills his brothers.  Personally, I would have preferred a So who killed his brothers for, as you correctly state above, plotting against the King and Crown Prince with Eun dying in the cross-fighting.  At least this would retain for our hero his dignity.  The scenario that appears to be developing--and I could be wrong--makes So a love-struck fool who allows himself to be Yoo's "killing canine" and for those in this thread who object to the canine references with regard to So, those come directly from the dialogue and the writer, we're not making it up.  I understand the writer appears to be trying to make the case for So's eventual killing of not only his brothers but their etended families and he or she wants to make it appear that So was manipulated by his love for HS and his hand was forced to protect her.  Only this doesn't make sense.  Had not JiMong stopped So, he would have cut down Yoo at the end of Ep. 14 and Weasel would have run away, he wouldn't dare try to strike at HS without Yoo's protection.  Here's the other thing.  Both JiMong and  HS know the future.  Here I go back to Taejo's warning to HS to do nothing and allow history to take its course.  And HS tries to do this.  But it seems her very presence in the past is enough to change it.  Or is it.  What about the Goryeo-HS, the one who is now taking our HS's place in the 21st Century.  Had not the eclipse transported our 21st Century darling to Goryeo, is it not possible that So would have fallen for Soo anyway.  But JiMong and HS know the future, remember, so they know that the king after Moo will be So.  History is changed not because of their actions but because of their in-actions, or rather, because JiMong stops So from killing Yoo.

At present, we now have a situation where the actual history has been changed because Yoo is now king after Moo and before So. This attempt to keep to the history has actually resulted in a situation where the writer has given us an alternative history where someone who never was King becomes King.

Now, I think I read somewhere this is one of the first dramas made with Hollywood investors and that, obviously, is because of the popularity of the genre.  I think the beauty of the first half of this drama had something to do with that fact that the drama was written to appeal to a broader-than-Korean audience so it doesn't really matter what the Korean rating numbers are.  But to hold the entire story together for the international audience, the pieces have to fit together in the story.  Beauty, romance, intrigue are all fine and good but if the package doesn't make sense, your international audiences are going to be frustrated and you may lose that viewership.  For instance, my mother sent me my first drama, Winter Sonata, while I was living in Rome.  I shared it with my colleagues.  Everyone loved it.  Until the scene where Yujin leaves the ticket to New York on the airport bench and flies off to Paris to study advanced Interior design.  At that scene, everyone lost it.  The thinking was, the love of your life is facing death or blindness and rather than go to him, you go off to study wallpaper and upholstery...  For all of us, the entire drama was nonsense just because of that one scene.  Now, perhaps it makes sense to Asians, and something gets lost in the translation but a drama designed to appeal to broader-than-Korean audiences should take those sensibilities into consideration.

Well, that's my two cents in the middle of the night... Now back to bed... 

 

Actually it is going to what is written in real history that after King Mu, Yo becomes king and reign for about 4 years and then So becomes king. When So became king, the kingdom Goryeo was unstable so he had to do alot in order to balance it. So basically what HS presence is doing it making sure history is suppose to fall in its course. Though King Taejo told HS to not get involve but watch little did he know that history is suppose to happen because HS was the first domino to fall and everything begin to fall into place as history was recorded

The only thing the writers added in to make it more exciting and dramatic is that the brothers are indeed killing each other and pinned against each other. In history records, there wasn't much indication of it happening but there was indeed a struggle in politics among brothers, it wasn't bloody as the drama was heading toward but there is no change in history everything is falling into its place

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I don't even hate WYas much as I can't stand the brother sister duo . And stupid chaeryung along with it 

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2 minutes ago, feignedreality said:

phish! someone cut off WY, Queen SMS, Won  and Wook's head stat! 

btw did Queen SMS forgot to dye half of her hair or is this some sort of Goryeo ombre style? 

dont forget the YH ...

i dont get it why she need to tell aboung WE and SD

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Umm..looks like CR has revealed something crucial a bout one of the Princes that makes HS flash back to her convo with WS and..have panic atttack??

What did CR say????

SD is hiding as Court Lady. Eun shows up too. 

 

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HS AND CR MOMENT...SHE IS TRYING TO LIE HS...MY STREAM STOOPED AGAIN...I ALSO LOST OTP MOMENT THEIR TALK I COULD NOT HEAR A WORD

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I'm so glad, WE has a good wife, she wasn't kidding when she told her dad that she will save/ take care of WE. They've met with HS, she's going to hide them. 

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10th to soo innocently: do you know what happened to my mother and aunt?

hs says carefully: i am not sure what happened outside.

10th: I hope they got out safely.

10th's wife look at hs knowingly, his wife is a realistic person.

cut to woohee talking to Yo pleading as a princess. to free the hubaekje people.

Yo to woohee: u kept too many secrets from me, i thought you are just a gisaeng, you tried to take my father's life, why should i trust you.

woohee: my people are starving, revenge means nothing to me now. give us a means to live and we will acknowledge you as king.

yo: the more i think of it , its not a good deal. I am thinking of something else.

cut to WS and BA outside at a tavern.

commoners bitching about the 4th prince. the 4th prince has become the new king's hound.

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2 minutes ago, trizha1 said:

Evil Queen doesn't seem to agree with Yo's plan but Yo seems to be resolute...

WS is in his tower..Ji Mong and General Park are there. Looks like he tells them what Yo has ordered him to do? Oh no. General has switched to scary mode...can you please go and Kill Yo for us all? 

WS and HS talk in the gardens...secret meetings are supposed to be fun and full of kisses, not like this. *sobs* WS is very serious and HS is worried? He strokes/pats her head and THEY HUG. It's not a kiss but I'll take it

HS is talking to CR who looks GUILTY AS HEEEELLLLLLLLLL

AS SHE SHOULD BE... Soo should be able to detect that stinky rotten lie lie lie from CR!!  

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I really hate Wang Wook now..

Calling Wang So "a dog"??? 

Huh!!!! U should call your name several times... and what will u hear...WOOK WOOK WOOK... sounds like a dog barking to me...

Who's the dog now huh!!!

Sorry chingus... new here.... now continue lurking 

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I think So tells Soo not to trust anyone until the real culprit who put mercury in the late King's bath is caught.

Soo is talking to Chae Ryung... Chae Ryung isn't very good at lying...

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22 hours ago, Rose34 said:

Thank you everyone for the live recaps! Eclipses are really jjang like the drama itself! @meahri_1 Lol! Your live broadcasting commentaries of the baseball game is epic and intense as the drama! How cray are we over the drama?  The stars are aligned and cosmology has approved of this drama.

This drama is really crazy. I think in this episode many things are going on, so will be the coming future episodes. Based on the live recaps, in one episode you can feel happy (when Wang So and Hae Soo kiss and their lovey-dovey scenes), then you find yourself feeling anxious - anticipating what will happen next. At other scenes, you will be angry at those evil characters. If I were Wang So, I would have choose to take over the throne and get rid off these evil and power-craze people around me.  I can't even stand them.  The only sane people there are Wang So, Hae Soo, Eun, SD, the General, Baek Ah, maybe Woo Hee (i think Baek Ah change her), maybe Jimong. Those nice to Hae Soo like Lady Myung Hee, Lady Oh has already died and more good people will die (Eun and his wife). Thus, I know Wang So will go for the throne only because Hae Soo is in danger and also he can't stand this bull****.  And at another moment you will be emotional - death, where lovers are separated or experience bad circumstances, like Eun and SD in the next episode when they starting to love each other. This drama is one hell of a rollercoaster ride. 

As this screen cap in the trailer has said that this is "the place where one dies when trusting others and live of doubting those close to you" (I have posted in my previous post). 

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How scary life was back then where killing is norm (life is dependent on sword) and power-craze are at the forefront of one's desires. Chaeryung turn her back on Hae Soo, something must happen between her and Wang Won (the purple prince). I saw the screen caps and I must say the actor who played the role of Crown Prince acted very well as well as a supporting cast.  I reserve my review of the episode once the subs are out. And I will response/quote to some of you as I seen many fantastic comments, thoughts and insights. I will back read pages as things are getting interesting thus more great thoughts come out. And I hope I can respond to all.  Eclipses and Scarlet Heart:Ryeo jjang!   

P.S. I still hold on to my belief and initial thoughts that this drama might be the best Kdrama 2016 for me as of now. Despite many critics, I still think we should reserve our concluding thoughts once the drama ends so that we can make more fairer conclusion because you can't predict how the episode will unveil for this type of drama. In the words of Lee Joon Gi, Saeguk drama expands and stimulate your imaginations. You can't predict how it goes because we were not from that era and that many things can happen or unfold depending on how the scriptwriter and PD wants it to be. Lee Joon Gi chooses the drama despite objections from his K-fans is because he is sold on the script, he said he had to do it, he even the one who go talk to the PD for the role. (He even politely and humbly write a message to them on Hajunse board explaining why he choose it). So the script and story must be good and it is living to that as witness from the popularity and craze of this drama just evident in this forum. <3 

Lol I tend to write long post. Haha! I am used to writing essays at university and I don't like to held back my thoughts, I will forget them. Haha, *bows head*, mian hae! 

 

Why did Joon Gi choose this drama ?? 

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BA tells WS that he has arranged for boats to leave and  asked WS if he will really capture the 10th.

WS: u dun trust me?

BA: I dun trust Yo. 

he and wook has a complicated relationship. wook hasnt leave his house for days.

woohee come and talks to them, she informed BA that she is moving back to the Gisaeng school. A spy looks at her from a distance.

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WTF HS!!!! STOP TRUSTING CHAERYEONG!!!!!!!!!! D#####!!!!!!! 

Everyone wants you to believe WS is bad but you know he isn't!!!!