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28 minutes ago, am420 said:

I feel as though I watched like 3 different episodes rolled into one, that is probably a function of only having 20 episodes.

Ugh, Wook, I have easily placed him above 3rd and 9th prince on the list of who I despise most on this show. It's not that he's turned into a villain, I actually like him as a villain it's the way he's condescending and so slimy and underhanded. The fact that he's so two faced, he's the person who will smile in your face and stab you in the back. Also, him insisting that he is trying to get the throne for HS is such bulls**t. He is greedy and unwilling to accept that, that is who he is. I really need him to stop lying to himself because it is accomplishing nothing, he is making decisions that could put HS's life in danger. Am I understanding right that he was involved in the plot to poison Moo? What exactly does he think would happen to HS should it be discovered that he was poisoned in Damiwon? Also CR what did she think would happen to HS? Did she even think about the position that she would be in once the king was dead? I haven't seen BBJX but I'm feeling no sympathy for her possible outcome, not only was she involved in a treasonous plot but she framed WS's person, there are a couple of characters that I would have sympathy for in that situation and she is not one of them, I don't even care about her being in love with #9 because I think that he's a horrible person too. 

Poor Moo, he really was too gentle to rule, but to see him deteriorate to the point that he wanted to send his daughter off as a hostage was so sad. Moo before the mercury poisoning would have never done that. Kudos to So for stepping in and stopping him, WS's flashback made me hate the evil queen even more. How could she do that to that little kid? I really cannot wait for her to witness WS becoming the King. 

 The OTP relationship is so good. I would watch a show without all the political maneuvering/killing of just them dating in Goreyo. The two dates that they went on in this episode were incredibly sweet and seeing them basically move from friends to basically being in a relationship is so great. I'm so glad that they talked and laid everything on the table but I'm still so frustrated by So not knowing that it was Wook, how doesn't he know that, that said I'm so glad that they have decided to be honest and upfront with each other. That will be necessary for them to survive Yo's reign. Also, their kiss, I've never been more excited about fictional characters kissing than I was about these two, there have been lots of complaints about this show but the development of this relationship has been excellent. NGL I'm a little sad that Yo came back at the end of episode 14 because I wanted to see more So/Soo dates.

I've been thinking about the trajectory of the show given what has been posted on here about BBJX and even with my frustrations at So not knowing that HS was talking about Wook, I just don't see what Wook could say to So to get him to let Soo leave. Maybe because I'm looking at it from a 21st century perspective but the Wook/Soo relationship contained minimal skin ship, he hugged her once and held her hand once, I think, I see no reason that, that should cause So to lose his cool. I'm prepared to roll my eyes when that is finally revealed because I considered the Wook/Soo relationship innocent. 

My only complaint is that I wanted to see a little more of Moo's reign, how did HS get the hairpin back? I also wanted to see more of them and of how HS moved from my heart is turning to him no matter how much I fight it to getting all dolled up because she thought that WS was going to express his feelings to her. 

@am420... I too wished they had shown a little more of Moo's Rein. Wang So and Hae Soo's bonding and when she finally succeeded to be able to read and write. 

Chingu, I agree Moo was to gentle and he trusted the wrong people like Hae Soo. Their kindness make it impossible to be safe, watching the snakes working behind their back to trap them and lock them up in a cage. I am glad that he was able to finally seee who the traitors were and who were his alies. 

I agree chingu WW wants the throne and Hae Soo is just a prize for him. The only thing that pisses me off is the fact HS will blame herself for what is to happen.WW is a two faced liar, a snake , a backstabber and a murderer. He may not have blood in his hands but he orchastrated the plan to murder the CP. In a way he is the Puppet Master of what is to come and the present. 

 

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21 minutes ago, mewtwo said:

all episodes has 2 versions except for ep1-2-3 

you can watch the SBS/Korean version on Kissasian or myasiantv, those the only 2 sites I know that have the SBS ver 

 

@mewtwo  thank you for your advice :D

 i've downloading episode 1-13 and it has "SBS" word in the top right, so it is korean version right?

hmm.. since i wanna know, What's difference it is, so i'll looking for the internasional version

edit : Now I know, it turns out the difference is explained on page 1:blush:

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2 hours ago, Yippeuni said:

Does anyone has answer to the scene where little So tied in a pole at the top of the wall and the army with fire arrows shoot at him....  That woman is really crazy as hell... How come she watch her son treated that way and smirked....  

 In this cannon, apparently the Yoo clan laid siege to the Kang clan and the Kangs, mistakenly believing the Yoos were actual human beings, (unlike themselves, who would use a child as an arrow shield?), tied So the the ramparts to get the Yoos to cease firing, but his mother ordered them to fire anyway, apparently not caring if So was killed in the process. From what little I've seen of the original scripts, it was supposed to be Mu who got him down, which is why when his father asks him in ep. 3 why he risked his life to take Mu's place in the Narye, So explains it as repaying a life debt. It may also explain why So feels (felt? *snif*) more loyalty for his older half-brother and his father than his mother. I was afraid they would cut this scene entirely even though it flashed in the 6 min trailer, but I guess better late than never?

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I don't believe Wang So was in the palace for the two years that were skipped. It does not make sense at all that their relationship has not progressed in the 2 years if he and Hae Su were in the palace in the entire time. He had made his intention for her as clear as day at the end of Episode 13. If anything, Wang So was probably out of the palace frequently, running as a representative for King Mu, which then makes sense why Wook has taken such a prominent position. It would be have made more sense for them to do a Hae Su voice over at the beginning of the episode explaining what has happened in 2 years instead of this jarring transition. Believe me, if Wang So had been in the palace for 2 years, there would be little Wang Sos running around already. :P

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please enlight my thougt here... i really clueless

why i feel that dramabeans dislike this drama? dunno if i just overreacting or so...

bcause if they don't like it, why they bother to write the recaps? they dont do that to other low ratings drama that they dislike?

please gimme explanation for this.

 

 

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I have so many pages to back read!!!!…when did this happen??? :o My SoSoo ship finally sailed and I enjoyed all their moments!!! :heart: I like the new Soo and I am happy that the dumb Soo is dead (or I am talking too early?). Also...even if he is evil…even if he is making So, Soo and more suffer…I like the lion king. :lol: Don't know why…but I really like him. But poor Moo! :confused: I felt bad for him…he become totally insane and didn't deserve to end like this. :expressionless: Chaeryung I am so disappointed on you.

 

 

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On 10/6/2016 at 0:18 AM, gobsmack said:

Lol I didn't know B U L L s h i t gets converted automatically to Richard Simmons on this site. I was so confused why everyone used Richard Simmons here. :lol:

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sorry still backreading...and I realise that after I type richard simmons and it auto correct to Richard Simmons, before that I was like...what the hell is Richard Simmons? Link to SHR? Cause I jump into forum at pages800+, I tot I may have miss out some Richard Simmons, end up..it is ... richard simmons hahahahahahahaha, and till I read someone mention it...so I got to reply it anyway...hahahahahaha

 

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I hope HS will finally come to realize the meaning of her vision : its a warning! As long as WS didnt become the King, there will be continuous betrayal, and gruesome bloodshed happening. The only way to stop that is by making WS the King...and HS upon realizing that should help WS to get the throne....

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8 minutes ago, wordsmyth0253 said:

 In this cannon, apparently the Yoo clan laid siege to the Kang clan and the Kangs, mistakenly believing the Yoos were actual human beings, (unlike themselves, who would use a child as an arrow shield?), tied So the the ramparts to get the Yoos to cease firing, but his mother ordered them to fire anyway, apparently not caring if So was killed in the process. From what little I've seen of the original scripts, it was supposed to be Mu who got him down, which is why when his father asks him in ep. 3 why he risked his life to take Mu's place in the Narye, So explains it as repaying a life debt. It may also explain why So feels (felt? *snif*) more loyalty for his older half-brother and his father than his mother, I was afraid they would cut this scene entirely even though it flashed in the 6 min trailer, but I guess better late than never?

 

Thank you for the explanation. I wished they didn't have to leave important things like this out.  It explains so much. If only the drama was more like 50 episodes. 

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5 minutes ago, isengdoang said:

please enlight my thougt here... i really clueless

why i feel that dramabeans dislike this drama? dunno if i just overreacting or so...

bcause if they don't like it, why they bother to write the recaps? they dont do that to other low ratings drama that they dislike?

please gimme explanation for this.

 

 

 

I don't think they dislike the drama. I have been following dramabeans since way back and per my opinion, they are just really open in giving constructive criticisms to the dramas they recap, and again there's nothing wrong with that. They are just showing their own views in the drama which we may or may not agree. Usually, from what I know, if they don't like a drama they would actually drop it and stop recapping (look at their recap section). They are still recapping MLSHR, so I guess, the drama keeps their interest to keep on going. 

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Chingu I changed my mind on Putting all the blame on Hae Soo because she accomplished what her duties were in choosing the next King Since she chose him she should be happy that she chose right person for the job. After thinking real hard about everything that has happen, I will look at it this way. Hae Soo maybe be the reason WS will sit on the throne and yes History says says he murdered all his brothers. He may be a ruthless King but he accomplishes a lot for the people and he creates a system that helps the people academically and free the slaves.  From my POV , of he did not become king none of these would have never happen. Without HS.... WY and his mom would have succeeded in killing the CP the first time because WA would have never been there. So many deaths were delayed because of HS. Her appearance gave these princes some happpnews before everything went to hell. HS motivated JUng and Eun to grow up a bit. Even though there was sadness there was some happiness tooo. I feel HA should not feel any guilt because without HS WW would still be put in that uncomfortable situation in protecting his family. Lady OH would been by TaeJo side when he died but she would still have cancer Chingu. 

 

Thanks for reading my post chingu

44 minutes ago, Yippeuni said:

Does anyone has answer to the scene where little So tied in a pole at the top of the wall and the army with fire arrows shoot at him....  That woman is really crazy as hell... How come she watch her son treated that way and smirked....  

I don't think I can handle tonight episode... Seeing Eun and SD die.... .... Please just get HS die sooner so we can end this painful fate in goryeo..... Never in my life I beg my lead lady to die sooner like now.... But I do that so future her can has a very sweet happy ending...  

OMO ,....I have been feeling the same to Chingu. I would hate to see her suffer anymore because it is to painful to watch because I believe that Hae Soo found her SOULMATE . :wub::wub::wub:

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Greetings all from a Chickpea with a heavy heart...  Here's the problem with the end of Ep. 14... JiMong!!!!!  He should have left Moo in the bath and let So cut down Yo and that other weasle brother then we wouldn't have this RIDICULOUS ending.  If I read the subtitles on the preview correctly, HS becomes the REASON So kills all his brothers... he is Yo's "wolf"...  RIDICULOUS.  I guess So will also end up marrying YH to "save" her because Yo dictates it.  This makes no sense.  If JiMong didn't step in, So would have cut down Yo and the Weasle (sounds like a Goryeo K-pop band) and HS would have been safe.  Moo was gone and nothing would bring him back.  So, my crystal ball says Weasle was slipping mercury into those bath-bags that CR was then floating in the King's bath.  Ergo, CR will die when this comes to light.  So will play the role of Yo's "canine" slaughtering anyone he's told to until the end of Ep. 15 when HS's life will be endangered anyway and he will have to do the necessary and take out Yo.  Why do Eun and Wife have to die... my guess is because it happens in history but also because she is the General's daughter and the General led the rebellion against Yo.  Its called payback.  This sets up for the drama to kind-of follow the history, I guess, and why when So eventually becomes King, there is so much blood-letting among the etended families.  

It drives me nuts when this happens in dramas.  Its like the writers are on a roll, then they need a transition and they come up with something that fits the story like a square peg in  a round hole but it gets them where they want to be.  Does anyone in his or her right mind think that in the middle of a fight, when a traitor thought dead would reappear, with the dead King in plain sight, that a Counselor would call a halt to the fighting to grieve over a dead regent and throw the battle to the bad guys... In what universe does this make sense....  I think we're seeing writer fatigue.  At this rate I'm thinking HS is just going to disappear from Goryeo and those SO/HS shippers are never going to see the ending they hope for.  Ah, well, who was it who said romance is only romance as long as there are forces keeping the couple apart...

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As far as I would like to have happy ending for So & Soo.. as far as I believe I need to prepare my heart for the worst sad ending on the final episode... :bawling:

I really love our every our OTP scenes in eps 14... No words can describe how WS loves HS and HS finally accepts WS love.

But i'm still hoping if HS and WS can not be together in Goryeo era at least they can be together in the present day (HS as Go Hajin and WS as a good man in GHJ's present life)..

please..please..please... :confounded:

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[선공개] 왕소에게 “황위를 노리는 10황자를 잡아오라”고 협박하는 왕요

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1166233

Scene between Yo, evil Queen and So, I think he is threatening So to do something, maybe to kill Eun and wifey using Jimon and Haesoo, this damn YO! KILL HIM!!!

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wah...the above translation making me wanna curse and swear at Yo!! give me the knife!! SERIOUSLY!!!

those who cant watch the above link can watch here as well

credit to @cuteLJG

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I dont wish to jinx it, but I really hope that hug in the preview is not the only scene we had between our OTP...:cry:

 

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44 minutes ago, wordsmyth0253 said:

 Oh! I like that much better! (well, not So getting hurt, that makes my heart hurt, but the idea that there's more to come. :)

Also, this may sound a bit mean, but I want Su to feel genuine fear for So (for him, not of him - been there, done that, *sigh*) She's acting like he's impervious to harm because history says he still has a whole bunch of important things to accomplish...but just because history says he won't die any day soon doesn't mean he can't get hurt. ㅠㅠ (#걱정주소 ㅋㅋㅋ) But seriously, I want her to genuinely worry for him and be able to clearly delineate between the historical figure she read about in school more than a thousand years after he lived and the man she's spent the last four years beside and come to love. Yes, they're one and the same, but the reality of a person is so much more than the account left in a (revised) thousand-year-old history. It's not enough to know he was called the 'bloody monarch' or that he did a whole bunch of important stuff. It's all in the 'why' and, as we've seen, so far the 'why' all revolves around her.

Despite the fact that So claimed to both YW and his mother that he would take the throne, I don't for a second think he believed it. He was just saying it in challenge/to be contrary, or to point out how ridiculous the idea was that something like a throne could actually win someone's heart. He doesn't want power for power's sake, and based on various conversations he's had with his father and Ji Mong (and others), I don't think he's ever considered becoming emperor as an actual possibility for him. His conversation with Ji Mong in this last episode just wrung my heart because of how trapped he feels and how resigned he is to his 'fate' of always being bound like a dog to others' whims.

Anyway, I anticipate him feeling a lot more trapped with Yo on the throne and Su's life on the line and I'm terrified of how far he'll be forced to go to protect the one person he's convinced he can't live without - and what will be left of him when the dust settles. For all the rumors about him and his 'scary' reputation (and yes, we saw with the monks that it's at least partly deserved), and as much as he lashed out in the beginning (rather like a kicked animal) So has shown himself to have a gentle heart, and not only towards Su, which I think is hugely important - the fact that he first rose to her defense (the whipping, her marriage) on a purely human level, and that injustice genuinely bothers him (Baek Ah, his niece, the man who lost his arm, etc.). It's not that he's violent and Su's love somehow redeems him; it's that he's actually terribly kind (#말랑카우) and decent and the world he lives in is going to force him to be cruel in order to survive it. Thinking he had killed Yo was hard enough on him, and Yo had been the aggressor...not to mention he would have been put to death for treason regardless, in the end..But if those b******* really do manage to make him hunt down Eun, I feel like it's going to be a tipping point. I just hope that when everything goes to hell Su is able to see the person and not the 'figure'...and be there to help him pick up the pieces. (Please, Su! Please! FIGHT for him!)

On that note, I think I'm ready to see 'Ruthless Su'. She finally found her spine!...to stand up to...So..? Okay, so I actually think being able to go toe-to-toe like that with someone she loves is a huge step forward for Su on a personal level and proof that she's secure in his love for her...but I still really wish she had found the guts to stand up to...just about anyone else. I want to see her employ that steel-spine in his defense. We've had Naive Su, and Zombie Su, and now even Elegant-but-Repressed Su, and we're finally starting to see the reemergence of Happy Su...but if we can't have her I'm waaay past ready for Badass Su. Yup. Badass Su all the way,

 

I'm right there with you. I'm so ready for badass Su. We've been seeing her character transform from a caterpiller to a beautiful butterfly. I just want her to become a badass butterfly who can flap her wings and cause a goddamn hurricane. She's going to need to be strong to stand by So because s''t is about to go down.

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14 minutes ago, 29bellevie said:

Hey everyone! Just watched ep 14 and like everyone else, I thoroughly enjoyed the So-Soo scenes. I had to rewatch the scene of the being honest with each other, what a deep and sweet relationship they're developing!!

Can anyone answer the question of why the little prince (can't remember his number...) and his wife Seon Deok must be killed in order to make the rebellion successful? (or did I misunderstand something??)

I was asking the same question until I remember in the episode when the princes found out about HS being married off to an old man (whom at that time they didn't know was the King), Eun did say that he would request his grandfather's help to save HS so it probably means his grandfather must be quite powerful to be able to have a say in that matter. Plus, Eun's wife is the daughter of General Park who undeniably has proved great loyalty to the late Kings. My guess is that Wook may warn Yo about Eun's family's influence and suggest him to annihilate the whole clan in order to protect and strengthen his position as a King. However, I really hope that this time the preview is misleading us again and that we won't have to witness the cute, innocent couple getting killed, at least not by WS himself :bawling:

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@ruizaio May I have your take on WS in E14?

After all I'd seen of him up to this point, I trusted that anything & everything Wang So (the fictional character) does in this drama--incl. his upcoming marriage with Yeonhwa--will be for Hae Soo. That's what you said/believed, too, right? Yet in E14, WS decides to abandon his promises to HS, decides even to stop courting her (the boat scene). He's giving up on her! And I just don't get it.

Before, WS firmly said that the crown is meaningless to him without HS. Yet now he's sacrificing her--not even out of ambition for the throne, but out of loyalty to the King. Shouldn't his first loyalty be for HS? She's supposedly the most important person in his life, bar none. As late as during the stargazing date in E14, he's still basically admitting that he couldn't live without her. So yeah... I utterly did not expect his about-face later in E14. I don't think it bodes well for the future.

Why do you think E14 was written like that? I mean, I see how it might be one more stepping stone in WS's king-making process, but doesn't it contradict his character as previously established? We know that his entire emotional world (and his sanity, pretty much) depends on HS. It just makes no sense for him to willingly abandon her like that.

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