Popular Post bingewatcherinsomniac Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 Woah...you guys are all unstoppable force of awesomeness! I've been away out of town for an emergency business trip in the past 6 days and here we are already on page 863.... *DEAD* now I have missed almost 190+ pages worth of discussion and there's no way I could keep up with all of you. *slowly curling back to the corner and raise a white flag to surrender* oh boy, I pitied my life as a 20 something corporate slave with no authority or freedom whatsoever to be a legit kdrama fangirl. LOL. I spent my week in endless torture for missing out episode 11, and the agony of watching bloodied mouth WS without any denouement made me looks like I had suffer constipation all week in front of my supervisor. Definitely not the impression I would like to flaunt with. I'm sure there are many beautifully written analysis on episode 11 available already in this forum, so I will reserved my judgment towards WW and WS after the airing of next episode to get a more complete picture of their dynamics. Speaking of episode 10-11, I personally thought that there are two MVP worth of characters that truly impressed me during that episode.. LADY OH: No doubt she was the actual hero of the episode. No other person than her was actually able to save Soo and convinced the king. Neither CP, WW, nor WS could do the 'impossible'. Her resentment and disbelief towards WW inaction to save HS was actually mirrored her own discontentment with Taejo's way of solving problems. The depth of her action is what breaks my heart into pieces. It's not just for saving HS, but it also for herself. She desperately needs to find a better closure to her grieving soul and she saw her way of saving HS as a perfect redemption for her inability (and Taejo's ineffectiveness) to protect her own baby in the past. Now she was able and willing to take the risk and sacrifice herself for her "daughter". It was her heartfelt plead about her unborn baby and what HS really means to her that actually moves the heaven. She might be tough and overprotective kind of mother on the outside, but it was done out of love to teach HS invaluable lesson about surviving life in palace and despite all that she still allowed her to make her own choice but carefully watch her from afar to catch her up whenever she falls or made a mistake. I believe she is the best mother figure you could ever had during goryeo times. And just like HS is too good for WW undeserving as*, taejo is definitely not worthy to receive the undying love and loyalty from her. May you rest in peace Lady Oh Sooyeon, and hopefully in the next life you will be bless with loving childrens and a husband that truly cherish you. You totally deserve it. Princess Yeonhwa: If Queen Hwangbo figure served as Yoda to WW, Yeonhwa is definitely his dark lord of sith. LMAO. She is a master manipulator. She knows exactly the perfect argument to throw and what's button need to be pushed in order for Wook turning completely into her side of ambitious plan. And no one actually immune to her conspiracy, not even WS who was well experience to his mother evil scheme could avoid her plot to get married with him, in which demonstrates her exceptional way of manipulating things. Her scenario was more subtle, sophisticated, unexpected but perfectly spot on kind of maneuver. What makes her far superior to the evil queen is based on two things, (i) She can play much better in the duality of her role compare to the temperamental EQ, so it became harder for other people to accuse her or predict her next moves, and (ii) Unlike EQ, she's not using an authoritative and coercive way in forcing people to support her cause, she takes a more subtle route and create a complication and disillusionment that her scenario is the only plausible choice for her victims. And it only possible because she has an edge of difference with EQ, where she still retains her feeling and emphaty to certain degree. Although she highly valued her opinion only, she was not trapped in her egotistical way of thinking and dismissing other people feelings like EQ did, but she carefully perceived other people emotions and desire then used it to her own advantage. We could clearly saw her crafty way in handling the poison dilemma, she knew she was doomed the moment WS drank three full cup of that poison and tried his best to get away with it, their original plan was fallen apart and looking at EQ not batting an eyelashes she knows her position and involvement will be in jeopardy, she became conflicted to save herself and save WS. However within a second of thinking she managed to asses the situation and have both problems solved in one swoop of action and bravery. Which was something need to be applause. Normally people will panic, become cowardice and abort the mission completely when things start getting awry. But she didn't back down, she managed to turn things back to her favor. Clever indeed, yeonhwa. I can't wait to the day you finally manage to beat the EQ and get your revenge. I'll root for you. 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arabela Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 In my opinion just because WW dont want to go all the way with HS and does abandon her to protect himself and his family and ambition, doesnt mean he doesnt love her. Lady Oh knew that, otherwise would not tell him he will regret his decision. Like his father , who didnt put Lady Oh first in many of his decisions, beggining with not marrying her and going after the throne and later even turning his eyes away when her , their own child was killed (!!!!), just because he can choose sometimes something else doesnt mean he didnt lover her more than anyother person ... in the same way, WS will, and this is my guess and my prediction, make in the future decisions that will go beyond HS and, even if now he goes after the throne to protect her, later the throne will make him less able to choose her again like nothing else matter ... for him too will be then things that would count more than his love for HS; now, is only his life against his love, but when it will be the throne and the kingdom against his love, he will be "forced" to choose political reasons against his love desires ... like many others kings, personal/affective reasons will succomb under political ones, cause he will choose to be a king more than to be a lover ... like his father, like his half-brother , like his mother, like his sister .... they all choose in the end power and not love ... just because WW doesnt have the guts to risk his life for HS, I dont think make him a bad and pitfull guy ... is in WS's nature to be able to make such dramatic and radical choices, like the time when he did go all alone to confront tens of monks !!!! he risked his life just for his mother's gratitude !!! (is not like if he didnt do it this his mother could not survive!! she is too good in her plans, as we already see and as they both knew at that time)- he is very familar with danger, life risking situations, confronting authority, crossing the limits, putting his life in danger, even before he came to this palace - so, for men like him taking great risks is not the same as for normal men ; we can admire them, but let's not compare normaly men with them - is like comparing a smart guy with a supergifted one!! when is about own's life risking decisions, WS is much too beyond WW, even if is not about love ; WS is more risky in everything, compare to WW, not only about HS; I dont want to minimise what WS did for HS, just to point that some things are more easy for him to do than are for others; I need more from him to show how great his love for HS is, when I know he risked his life for much less than this! I dont think WW made empty promises for HS, just that, like some of us, cannot keep it when is about some extraordinary circumstances, even if we did indeed mean it; he never pose like he can do anything, he always put his decisions in the context - like he would ask for her desire or for king permission; WS acts like there is nothing again his wishes, like reality can conform to his desires - even with HS he is acting like this - (I think is not a coincidence that his mother and HS both of them ask retorically if he thinks he can change their feelings by making such an impressive gesture!!); it doesnt matter she said she likes someone else, it doesnt matter she said she sees him only like her friend, it doesnt matter she reject him, it doesnt matter she was scared in front of him - all these dont matter to him - In my opinion, not because he loves her so much, he really do and probably more than she will, but also because this is his nature and his life story - he always forced reality and keep pushing it for what he wants, he survived by opposing reality and making his way out ... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junejungki Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 13 hours ago, MadraRua said: Vogue shoot Goryeo Style @KdramaSwimmer and @LoveSG Yes that opine was particularly awesome. No bias at all, just straight up what you see is what you get. I loved it too. @meahri_1 You can borrow it anytime especially when you give an analysis like that, Great job Edit: I must reiterate I didn't actually write that opinion, just borrowed it to share with you guys. I wish I could write like that. @dustdevil It sounds like a logical progression of events to me. I'm optimistic too about the ending. I really hope he gets to the future with his memories intact and we see him seeking her out. So looks hot in black. I love their costume in this drama. They all look good with their costume and accessories. Never knew fashionista already exist during Goryeo time. hahahaha!! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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qwenli Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 54 minutes ago, MiisOh said: I finish 10GB data rewatching ..all the scene Crazy me I busted my mobile data too by surfing this thread every other hour. So dear friends here, please dun quote pix ok. @junee22 thks for the reminder of the denials.hs is really hard to get.... I am curious why WS was in his mask in the day and removed it at night. All very strange costume choices. Unless they filmed these scenes separately.... 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chelseaharu Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 @arabela if you read most of the comments from recent preview. We are actually not blaming wook for his empty promises or for his choice to put his family and ambition first, we are over it along time ago. Now we are mad because he can't own up to his own mess but he kept pushing the responsibility to others. he blame wangso for haesoo misfortune and blame yeonhwa (talking about debt) for making him abandon haesoo. His sister already said it, she was ready to die if her plan failed. He should reflect on his own mistake and learn instead of continously denying it. That's what we want 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKobegiant Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 hours ago, devotee said: Reveal hidden contents Is this from tonight's episode? I wonder what's going on. Since WS is wearing the armour, it could be before or after the scene with WW They must be exhausted from the heat. Korea had a heatwave this summer. The day I left in early August, temperature hit 35C in Seoul! But it was unusually warm even way back in may/june. Soo may have rejected So not because she still loves Wook but because she didn't think she loved So enough to deserve him. He'd done so much for her and now he wants to marry her to save her again?? She can't accept this kindness... Oh forgot what I wanted to shout all day: WOOK, YOU ARE A JERK!!!! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MadraRua Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 Cr: loveholic198 Spoiler #in a nutshellCr: loveholic198 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cr; loveholic198 Hello Eclipses! It's not long now... 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visually-wandering Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I don't need to write down my thoughts here. Because some of chingus already speak up my mind. So I'll just share about my thought for WangSo. https://www.instagram.com/p/BLGIqAfAWWD/ 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlatika Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 Hours and 10 Minutes More To Go 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dramu51ch0c10ve Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 About 2 more hours to go! Are you ready? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzlerZ Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I really hope tonight's episode doesn't end on Wang So's return. It would leave me smiling but I'm desperate to know what happens AFTER his return the most... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dramu51ch0c10ve Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 WangWook is a hypocritical a** when he said what he said to WangSo in the preview.Clearly,he was one of the reasons why HaeSoo is suffering now.Why put the blame solely on WangSo?And how dare he put HaeSoo down like that when he was the one who always looked towards her for happiness and wanted to make sure she only has eyes for him. The way I see it,The sneer was meant to put WangSo off so that he will reconsider chasing HaeSoo.If successful,WangWook will be at ease knowing that the possibility for HaeSoo to remain by his side is high.However,WangSo being WangSo will not fall for his words.Once he has assessed situations and decides on something,he'll take action.Plus,with his confidence,he'll ensure he gets what he wants in the end. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freckledcontessa Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 hours ago, smitten1710 said: ...He's not afraid to go against anyone, not even the King, if it's about HaeSu. WS is the man. His actions (for HS) are love. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi Bros Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 For me, Hae Soo and Wang Wook are pretty similar in these aspects: 1. Don't learn of mistakes and are always in denial. 2. Fell in love easily with illusions of each other. 3. Innocent relationship type. Both acted pretty similar in their relationship. 4. They avoid talking about their problems with each other. 5. Empty promises that are changed the next day. 6. Indecisive and inmature. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WeunXK Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 http://www.topstarnews.net/detail.php?number=216160 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aypopa Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 WS we all your persons 1h 30 MIn i still in work and again the same scene like every week i can't work at all ..... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freckledcontessa Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, MiisOh said: I finish 10GB data rewatching ..all the scene Crazy me I feel you. I upgraded our internet plan because i watch too much. My daily usage is around 7-9G a day. We are not crazy. What we are doing are normal, normal symptom of a (die hard) fan. XX 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana Blanche Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 It seems to me that Hae Soo is overwhelmed by Wang So insistence. Overwhelmed by her own feelings. She really needs time to recover. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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