[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[Gabi Bros]

25 minutes ago, arsdf said:

ohhh im so sorry... may i know how to not 'quote' the pict/video?

While quoting you have to delete manually all the photos or videos. If you don't want to quote the entire message of the person, you can tag the user so the post will be directed specially towards the persons tagged (@ next to the user you want to tag and it will appear automatically in a blue blox). The person will be notified that you mentioned them. 

Example: 

@arsdf

If you really need to talk about a photo someone posted, you can post it again in your message by copying the URL and then going to the button "Insert other media", "Insert Image from URL". 

@LyraYoo I really need to know how to put Naver videos here.  Please let me know. 

About the BTS I specially liked the cute reaction IU had when he was going to "kiss" her while practicing their parts. XD Hahahaha it was a funny reaction. 

[riuenu]

37 minutes ago, wackeemarie said:

Why do I get this when I tried to view the peck BTS? Because of copyright issue per the message in the screen cap below?

@wackeemarie hey not too sure u had got the link, I tried sourcing alternative for u on twitter and found this (:

credit to  @todtortato 

 

 

 

[arsdf]

okayyyy thank u very much..  @Gabi Bros

[enigmatic_zephy]

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Enjoy the glory!

 

https://thefangirlverdict.com/2014/08/16/a-weakness-for-lee-jun-ki/

 

http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.com/2013/02/lee-jun-ki-and-his-hair.html

https://thesunnytown.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/march-2016-allure-lee-joon-gi-interview/

https://daegorr.wordpress.com/2016/09/14/translation-lee-joon-gi-arena-homme-september-2016-interview/

 

On good note: The man is considering doing romance (aka regular dramas) more!!..

I think very very very interesting times ahead for the fans..

 

 

Edited October 6, 2016 by LyraYoo
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[valsava]

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27 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

Enjoy the glory!

 

https://thefangirlverdict.com/2014/08/16/a-weakness-for-lee-jun-ki/

 

http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.com/2013/02/lee-jun-ki-and-his-hair.html

https://thesunnytown.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/march-2016-allure-lee-joon-gi-interview/

 

On good note: The man is considering doing romance (aka regular dramas) more!!..

I think very very very interesting times ahead for the fans..

@enigmatic_zephy  Yes I read and article a while back that he was going to switch genere, I would like to see LJK in more action drmas he was good in the one he done before.

 

Edited October 6, 2016 by LyraYoo
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New BTS Kissing scene!

 

 

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Playful as always in BTS

 

 

http://tvcast.naver.com/v/1156995

[valentvcd]

WS's kiss just peck and touch lip lightly... but HS's kiss peck and press  

[briseis]

I LOVE THIS! Simply epic SoSoo MV!

 

[Visually-wandering]

This drama is my first encounter with Lee Junki. I was avoiding my self to know him before just because he has a BIG name. Honestly I just start watching this drama faithfully from ep 7th (or 8th). And now I'm doomed. Entering this forum make things worse. I even subscribed my email following this room and I have to delete endless email updates every morning.

But strangely I never unsubscribe and enjoy the massive updates torture on my inbox.

Love is just like that. Sometimes it's hurt but we're just too curious to continue the journey. Like our OTP love story, WangSo and HaeSoo.

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Notes: waving to @valsava @LyraYoo @andy78 @bebebisous33 found your posts here also the reason why I'm back to soompi. Remind me a lot to the hilarious time in My Love From The Stars thread. Registered with a new ID because I can't login my old one from my phone. Happy to see all of you again. And now I'm a fan of @40somethingahjumma too.

Ah, just saw another familiar name. Hi @briseis

 

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3 hours ago, MadraRua said:

Okay people, I can't help but feel there's a lot of negativity creeping into the thread and while I'm all for critical thinking, let's not mire ourselves in the negative and focus more on the positives...

What I like about Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo

1. Wang So

2. Wang So

3. Wang So

4. ..........

No seriously, I love everything from the cracking soundtrack to the beautiful costumes. What do you like?

 

 

 

 

@MadraRua

My new fave part is this: So's realization that without Soo, he is nothing. 
That genuine pure unexpected realization is so beautiful yet so sad. 

 

[JJChastity]

I can't wait for next episode, watching bts and interview I could find on youtube. Do you guys know the full interview of this:

Or is that all of it? I like it because the interview is more casual than serious and they tease each other a lot.

 

[Hanazumi]

@sunshinefate@special_bee Okay, another history post. LOL Off topic: I love history but I'm not a history major.  

In history, Hyejong (Crown Prince Moo) was a great man in battles but in politics, he was soft (or sybaritic, spineless,...something like that). So I assumed that he wasn't able to obtain the respect and trust from his brothers and subjects. So maybe Crown Prince Moo was selected as the crown prince because either he was the eldest surviving son or King Taejo felt that he could be trusted due to Crown Prince Moo's involvement in many battles. But most likely, he only had talents for battles, not politics and he did not have a powerful backing in-law family and possibly no one liked his political sense. He was indecisive and was not supported by a lot of people except one person (I don't know his name in English). When King Taejo died, he became the King. I think he did love his brothers because he didn't do anything when Wang Gyu (one of the royal family's relative) informed him of the conspiracies led by So and Yo. After knowing that Crown Prince Moo (Hyejong) didn't want to do anything to stop the potential revolt that could harm his life, Wang Gyu went and supported Yo and So. Yo and So had the support from their mother's family and their subjects held various important posts in the empire, they had a lot of influence. I assume that Hyejong probably knew about his weakness so that's why he didn't do anything even if it would harm his life. And it did mention that princes conspired to take the thrones, not just Yo and So. So maybe other princes did too like Wook, Jung, Won, Eun, Baek Ah,... We don't know who. Then he died of disease but it was also rumored that Yo and So poisoned him. So guys, you see So and Yo fighting on-screen but perhaps they were really good brothers.

Next came Yo's reign as Jeongjong, he attempted to reduce the power of the nobles but wasn't successful (Gwangjong - So was able to do that). Basically, he did attempt to solidify the king's power and followed his father's 10 instructions but I think he did not have the ability as So. There was no knowledge of any conspiracies or revolts against him so he was probably a better king than Moo but just not as good as So. Both Moo and Yo did have sons but their sons might have died young or they were too young to rule or people didn't support them.

Then So ascended the throne as Gwangjong. He was a good king except during the later part of his reign, he did kill those who wanted to rebel (but it was for a good reason). He learned how to govern and reformed the nation. He kept the nation together after all the "game of thrones". He sincerely cared for the nation. The ranking is like this: So > Yo > Moo. King Taejo unified the three kingdoms and founded Goryeo. It was So who rebuilt and strengthened the foundation so that Seongjong (Wook's son) and Hyeonjong (Wook's maternal grandson and Baek Ah's child) led the nation through the conflicts with the Khitan. One thing I want to note is So did weaken the nobles' power but it seems to me that Wook's clan was still powerful or respected (I did mention that So married Wook's daughter, became in-laws and then the descendants after So's son reign had Wook's bloodline). Maybe Wook did have a calculative, cunning, genius nature to him or something. Also, I did mention that princes went after Moo for the throne so he could be one of those princes, too. Thus, that's probably why we see the game of thrones on screen and the basis for the characterization of Moo, Yo, So and Wook.

You can read more about Gwangjong here and what he did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangjong_of_Goryeo

And then there's Yeon Hwa (Queen Daemok). As you guys already know that Gwangjong has two wives - Queen Daemok and Moo's daughter. I assume Yeon Hwa (Queen Daemok) was a woman of virtue or intelligence because like I said, Gwangjong didn't marry anyone else but her and made her the queen (maybe it was for political reason or he learned the lesson from having seen his Father's many wives). So guys, hate her all you want and it's true if she was a man, she should and would be on the throne. So this is also another basis for her ambitious character.

I read on DramaBeans and someone researched information did mention that Gwangjong almost killed his son - king Gyeongjong. Historically, he wanted to spend time with the people than governing and living in the palace. So, I'm not saying that he was a bad king but maybe he didn't live up to So's expectations. Gyeongjong's queens were Wook's daughters and the one who succeeded him was Wook's son. So probably Wook was a good man in politics. Although the one who raised Wook's children was Queen Hwangbo. Wook's wife died early too (Lady Hae in the drama). King Seongjong (Wook's son) was 9 when Wook died in the 20th year of Gwangjong's reign. Remember in the drama before So came in, queen Hwangbo was about to cover the King with his royal robe. It showed that she was knowledgeable.

Back to So and Wook:

So married Wook's sister (Yeon Hwa - Queen Daemok). Then So's son (King Gyeongjong) married Wook's two daughters (Queen Heonae and Queen Heonjung). Wook's son (King Seongjong) married So's daughter (Queen Moondeok). When it came to Hyeonjong (the illegitimate son between Queen Heonjung and Baek Ah), he married Seongjong's daughters. All in all, if So wasn't the king, probably Wook or Baek Ah could have ascended the throne in Goryeo's history as their descendants were good rulers.

I also quoted my two previous historical posts so you guys won't get lost when reading this post.

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4 hours ago, Hanazumi said:

I agree. I think in history, regardless of whether Wook was a bad guy or not or a coward, he gave birth to a son (King Seongjong) who took the nation through the 1st Goryeo-Khitan conflict, a daughter (Queen Heonae - Empress Chunchu) who served as a regent for her son (King Mokjong), and a daughter (Queen Heonjung) gave birth a son (King Hyeonjong - illigimate child with Baek Ah) who took the nation through the 2nd & 3rd Goryeo-Khitan conflicts. He died in the 20th year of Gwangjong's reign. So I think he definitely was a man of talents, just not sure about his character. He could be a great man or an evil man (like in the drama). LJG and his character are beyond words to describe. I'm a fan of his for a long time. But I have to admit Wook's character intrigued me and I don't think anyone can portray Wook like KHN. That role was for him even if LJG is beyond outstanding. In addition, someone mentioned that Wang So's reign kept the nation together but his line ended. Goryeo continued with the descendants of Wook and Baek Ah. Both wanted freedom in different ways. Wook wanted power and Baek Ah wanted to be free. I did mention that So's name meant the sun on the edge and Wook's name meant the rising sun. It really fit So's reign and Wook's posthumous honor as a king.

 

4 hours ago, Hanazumi said:

Also, some more historical information if anyone's interested. According to history, it was rumored that Yo and So worked together to get the throne from Moo. So and Wook became in laws (Wook's sister married So and Wook's children married So's children). And for So to marry Wook's sister in history, that added to my assumption that he was probably a powerful man or even respectable or his clan was powerful. Also, the fact that after So's son died, it was Wook's son who became king, not the son of any other princes. And when Mokjong (Wook's maternal grandson died), it was Baek Ah's illegitimate son with Queen Heonjung (Wook's 2nd daughter) who became king. The line of continuation had to have Wook's bloodline in there.

So, it's too bad that there's no bromance between So and Wook in the drama but perhaps, they did have bromance in history.

 

 

[JJChastity]

I haven't seen that part of instagram, another cut scenes from international bts, why do they keep cutting important scenes,

[Lady_Lara]

On 10/1/2016 at 8:00 PM, gwiyeowooh said:

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Hi, I have lurking around and I see some here talking /asking about Joon Gi if he is gay.

I have a good gay-dar,  and I have the confidence to say that he is not. I think many people already had that thought because of his role when he was just starting The King and the Clown and as we know LJG is a really good actor so he potrayed it really well then followed by the awful long hairstyle that he had even after the movie. I think that is why he was perceived that way. 

I have seen him bts, interview and on variety show and he more of vain, dorky, attention seeker type but not gay.  

Please don't hate me on this but the one that I am positive that is more likely gay are Jo Kwon, Heechul, you can already see it on the way they move. But the one that I got shocked was, Bogum. I never watch reply 1988 so I have no idea about it but I faithfully watch 1n2d and he was a guest recently, the way he moves was too obvious for me. Like I couldnt believe my eyes, while watching I even asked my mom and cousin who has no idea about korean dramas or kpop to drop by my room and tell me what they think about Bogum, and they said right away he is that....

I am sorry, I am not a Lee Joon Gi, park bogum, jo kwon, heechul Fan or Hater. I am a moon lover fan. I just posted what I have observed as a normal citizen of this earth. I could be wrong. Please don't hate me

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I so hope that you are wrong about Bo Gom! No! I like him so much in Reply 1988, he should marry a beautiful girl and have many cute babies! The same about Junki, but to be honest this thought occurred me when I watched My girl-I thought-ah, this guy is too girly and cute probably he is a gay. But I also hope that I'm wrong.

 

Edited October 6, 2016 by LyraYoo
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[frostfire]

cr. http://closetcinephile.tumblr.com/

This parallel shows clearly the character of these two princes that are vying for Hae-soo's love.

Let's talk about Wang Wook. First and foremost, he was shown to be one of the "better" ones among the princes. He wasn't outrightly nasty like Wang Yo or Wang Won, nor was he exclusive like Wang Eun and Wang Jung. He made an effort to include Wang So when no one else took initiative, and allowed him to take up residence in his home before he was allowed to return to the palace. While Wook never partook in acts of cruelty (like when So was asked to remove his mask during Eun's party), he never outrightly disapproved of Yo's actions either, even when he commented on how Yeon-hwa was right to discipline Hae-soo. He was subtly playing all fields, and it was a brilliant move on his part, especially when he can just pick and play up alliances in his fight for the throne without actually allying with anyone and none's the wiser. (Until you get a sword to your throat, that is, in Yo's case.) The way he's never let himself get overly attached to any one brother apart from his own family allows him to use and discard them without even batting an eyelash. He would have killed both So and Yo had he had the chance to and he wouldn't have felt any remorse over it. He's so unscrupulous and manipulative that he's even willing to use the woman he loves to get to So in spite of what that guilt will do to her. He's seen with his own eyes how withdrawn Soo became after Court Lady Oh's death, and how she became a shadow of the girl he used to love and yet he went ahead and manipulated her to try and kill So anyway. 

In contrast, Wang So having not experienced any sort of love from his own family (his own father notwithstanding), while he wasn't approachable at all when he first returned to Songak and placed everyone at arm's length, we can see how he cherishes every sort of friendship he's managed to forge, whether it's with Soo or his brothers. He was willing to disrespect Yeon-hwa in front of everyone when he stopped her from hitting Soo, even though he barely knew her then. He allows himself to be dragged around by Baek-ah and does what he pleads with him to do - in episode 6 when So had more or less given up on rescuing Soo from marriage to the King, he stepped up his efforts because Baek-ah asked him to. Despite his disappointment and disgust in Wook's lack of ability to prove Hae-soo's innocence in the poison case, he still made an effort not to be too aggressive when fighting Wook, not just because of Hae-soo's request, but also because he doesn't want Wook to die. When he inadvertently stabbed Yo twice, causing him to fall to his "death" he felt so torn up and wretched about it that he didn't think he'd be able to forgive himself for it. 

TL;DR: Hae-soo didn't walk away from Wook because he wanted the throne more than he wanted her. No, she walked away because despite him saying he loves her, he still has no qualms about using her to achieve his goal. It's one thing to know that the person you love loves something (or someone) more than he loves you. It's a different thing altogether to know that the person you love, while he claims to love you, is willing to and will hurt you if it means he will get what he wants. 

 

[Umi_ni_Sora]

Some thoughts on ep 13. Sorry, on iPad again so my post will be a it choppy. As a SoSoo shipper, I am satisfied with this episode.

We start with Soo recalling the moment So proposed to her. I would like to remind us that Soo was startled to hear the reason why So would become king, which in his words, he would do it for her. To give her freedom. To be at peace with her. This is what Soo has been seeking all this time. To live a life that is free, and not be controlled by anyone. His words warms Soo's heart because deep down she knows he is sincere, and he does have the capability to do what he promises. She is surprised still, by the extent of his love and sacrifice. She again, is moved by him. She hesitates, but pushes the hairpin back to So, who is at this point thinking, "Dang it, not again. Now I gotta do this all over." If Soo really wasn't considering his offer and it was a true rejection, then why did she think about it afterwards? Answer: she is in love.

Contrasting to Wook, who says he is also going to become king for her sake, we learned that his words are not sincere. He has other motives for seeking  the throne, but most importantly he wants power. Yes, the situations with Soo and his family all led him there, but Soo can see right through him, saying that he is fooling himself. He wants to break free from the chain of helplessness. He wants respect, and for the system (and people in it) to stop looking down on him and his family. It's his pride and ego that is driving him towards the throne, more than it being about Soo and what she wants. KHN said in an interview that So and see the same things, but they approach it differently. This is a parallel between the two, both in how they love Soo and their reason to fight for the throne.

I love all the scenes where Soo begins to unravel these desires of his. He's starting to show a side of him she never saw before - the ugly side, which breaks her Prince Charming illusion of him. When he asked her if the king died, she couldn't really digest what she was witnessing - the scary nature in Wook. She was losing trust in him. Look at how broken she looks after their talk. She couldn't believe her ears and eyes that this was the Wook she loved. Commiting treason? That's not Wook, she thought. She is still in denial, but the truth is tugging at her conscience. Then the mourning for the king, she offered to go with him because she had a small hope he was still the Wook she knew, and he downright rejected her knowing that she is not enough for him. He needed power, like he says. He has to gain power because what will happen when another problem rises? He couldn't bear being powerless again, so that is more important to him than being with Soo, which contrast So's reasons because Soo is all So needs. As So says, the throne means nothing without Soo and he is nothing without her. Also, Wook had his pride broken when he found out Soo begged So to spare him. Before that, he saw Soo standing behind the pillar behind So, which pissed him off and prompted him to attack So all of a sudden. He is broken by her betrayal even more when she sought for So's help, thus choosing So over him. Jealousy is apparent. Soo asked him if he ever once thought she was sincere about her feelings, but he never answers her. As the audience, we see that in his heart, he always had his doubts and lost his trust in Soo. She also realizes Wook was using her and of all things to hurt So, who she has come to love. That goes against her belief of not wanting to be controlled by others. Finally it seals the deal in her walking away from him. Him trying to gain her love? Fat chance. Soo is over you, Wook! Losing trust in each other is what broke WookSoo, but ironically trust is what is building SoSoo. Soo completely trusts So, evidence by her searching for him to tell him the king had died. The king specifically tells her not to trust anyone, but she finds So and immediately tells him everything. She trusts him. She loves him. She believes he can save the day. He is a hero in her eyes.

The shift in Soo's trust and loyalty breaks Wook's heart and pride. Soo completely trusts So, which marks a milestone in their development. For a solid relationship to occur, it has to be built with trust and that's what Soo and So are developing. Chingus, there is a lot of parallels between So and Wook surrounding Soo and the throne battle. You can't just see it as just Wook getting all the developments. You see So becoming more human with each episode, and at the same time Wook becoming more of a monster. When Soo reached out and hugged So when he was crying, she started to see the real Gwangjong, who would hurt over a siblings's death. This is genius writing, because it dissolves her fear of Gwanjong as a monster who kills his brothers, and brings Soo closer to So. She has the front seat and sees everything and every side of him. She will love him fo who he is, including the good and bad. She and him have been hurt by the people they love. They can relate, this are on another level together. Soo is beginning to grow as a woman as well. She was just a naive girl in the beginning, about life and love, but her hardships and change in feelings for the two men is also making her change. She is maturing, both in love and as a person. 

For the record, LJK looks soooo freaking majestic and sexy in his black and silver outfit. Especially on his horse. My god, that is my favorite outfit of his. He looks like a true hero of the show. I love all his scenes in the episode. He is smiling more too. His convos with Soo is getting better. She goes to him first for everything now, lol, and she smiles more around him His scene with the king was so heartbreaking too, and booooy that man can cry! Dang it, IU is one lucky woman! How does she keep herself cool around a man like that? 

 

[wanrozina]

17 hours ago, MoOnLoVeRz said:

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Love this poster ...

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[wanrozina]

8 minutes ago, Lady_Lara said:

I so hope that you are wrong about Bo Gom! No! I like him so much in Reply 1988, he should marry a beautiful girl and have many cute babies! The same about Junki, but to be honest this thought occurred me when I watched My girl-I thought-ah, this guy is too girly and cute probably he is a gay. But I also hope that I'm wrong.

I think LJK not gay. Totally NO. It just that he was very busy with the acting project that he had no time for dating.