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[atgirlina]

Can someone help explaining why yeon hwa chooses to side with evil queen mother?

She hides her poisoning plan from the queen. So she didnt have to side with her from the begining?

She's smart and cunning, knows how to play her cards. Yet she believes the queen will take her side, when the queen still sees wook as a rival for her sons to be king?

Did i missed something there?

[kingpin]

 

 

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[skxz]

LADY OH

Episode 6

When we first meet Lady Oh we see that she is a stern lady. I mean even the princes think she’s scary. She is the lady in charge in Damiwon Palace and all other court ladies follow her direction to keep the palace running smoothly. Like society in those days even court ladies had a hierarchy and their rankings were differentiated by their clothing and hair. 

The Palace Maid:

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The Court Lady:

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Cr: twitter

The Sang Gung (highest ranking of court lady):

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I believe this title was conferred to women who had sexual relations with the King. Evidence to back this up is the tension Lady Oh has with Queen Yoo, in particular the line where she asks “Would you have preferred for me to go.” that is for her to visit and treat the King.

Lady Oh first appears when Hae Soo is told that she is to marry the King. She helps Soo get ready by cleaning her and examining her body making sure that she is suitable to marry the King, “A woman with scars on her body cannot be the King’s wife.”  

She is very lacking in emotion and this is shown when Soo is all confused as to how she came to be the King’s bride, Lady Oh did not offer her any sympathy, she simply left leaving Soo to wonder with her own confused thoughts. She does not let others know how she feels and doesn’t seem to be close with anyone and we later find out why this is.

Episode 7

When Soo is helping the Crown Prince with his injuries Lady Oh stops her. She punishes Soo for her actions by making her read a lot of books on medicine. But this is because Soo should’t have found out about the Crown Prince’s illness as it could result in her getting killed. I guess everyone has many secrets and burdens in that era and knowing the wrong things or being at the wrong place at the wrong time could mean instant death. At this point I realised that Lady Oh was taking care of Soo. But why?

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Episode 8

Soo is punished yet again. This time for interacting with Baek Ah. “A mere court lady being close to princes is what is causing all of these problems.” Lady Oh is very correct at this point. As Soo is no longer in anyway related to the princes, her constantly being around them and talking to them can stir a lot of trouble in the palace and cause a lot of nasty rumours and things to happen. Yet again Lady Oh is trying to protect her by telling her to cut her ties with the princes. She even says that Soo “Ended her relationship to the King with one cut.” If she was so capable and determined to do that why is it so hard for her to cut ties with the princes? At this point it is rather complicated for Soo.

When Lady Oh saves Soo from Lady Crazy we finally realise why. When she slaps Soo and says,“There is no end to your arrogance.” it was really her giving a Soo a wake up call but obviously in a harsh manner. Why? Why does Lady Oh target Soo more than anyone else? Why is she always getting punished? Why does she get the most attention?

“Because when I look at you I am reminded of myself. You trust people. You are good to others and you have no fear.” This is a huge flaw of Soo’s and because of her arrogance she does not realise it. She is a girl with a good heart and doesn’t see the bad in people. That is why she understands So and is not afraid of him. That is why she helped the Crown Prince even though it was not her job and of top of that could get in trouble for it. That’s why she confronted Eun when he was peeking at Chae Ryung changing. If Soo was more aware of the conditions she was in and the reality of it all she would see that she is constantly putting herself in danger out of the goodness of her heart. She’s too selfless and Lady Oh can see that and knows that because of this trait she can easily get killed.

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Like Myung Hee, Lady Oh is very much another mother figure to Soo in this difficult time. And because she can see all her flaws in Soo and knows of the consequences they can bring she wants to be able to protect her and make sure Soo can survive in such a hostile place. 

Soo realises her good intentions and assures Lady Oh that she will be careful and listen to her words of advice. Lady Oh knows her place and she knows her power. She is well aware of what to do to stay out of trouble and she really wants Soo to learn this from her. 

Episode 9

Lady Oh warns Soo, “Be careful of Prince Wang So.” She says to Soo if you can’t give him your whole heart you need to make that clear. Yet again she is right. Cause we know that So is rather possessive and I feel like Soo still has feelings for Wook so this is complicated and could potentially be dangerous. Lady Oh yet again relays her personal experiences with Soo and tells her of how she once gave her heart to a man hoping he would forget his ambitions and settle a normal life with her. She was wrong.“People do not change for others.” This is more or less true. I think people change others for themselves. The world is cruel. “In the end, he rose to a place where I couldn’t dare touch him.” Why does this all sound too familiar. Are their lives somehow paralleled but Soo’s scale of detrimental destruction, pain and sadness is so much larger. 

This short scene is almost like an imminent warning for what is about to happen. Lady Oh is a very wise lady everything she has done and said up to this point has been nothing but true. She is an amazing role model and mother figure for Soo but having someone that Soo can look up to can also result in a lot of pain and sadness if anything were to happen. 

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Episode 10

When Lady Oh asks for Soo to leave the palace with her that was a bittersweet moment. She has viewed Soo like her own daughter ever since meeting her due to similar character and personality traits they share. Soo let’s Lady Oh know that Wook offered her hand in marriage and Lady Oh’s immediate response was think of the 4th prince. Everything she has ever said has been on point. She knows the changes that can happen to people that live in the palace walls and that it changes them. 

“Do you think you can survive between the two princes?” 

Her relationship with the King Taejo started like how Soo’s relationship with So/Wook started. Their relationships are parallels of each other. Everything she relays to Soo about her relationship with King Taejo is the looming fate of Soo’s relationship with So/Wook. Only difference is that Soo has two men after her.

“The 8th prince is different. He will never change.” 

“No. The palace is a place that makes people turn their backs on all kinds of promises.”

It’s difficult to accept but it is true. Lady Oh knows that the scheming the fight for power the need to sit on top is on everyone’s minds. Nothing sways people more than power. The tragic end to Lady Oh’s relationship with the King should serve as a grand example to Soo but because of her naiveness and the good she sees in all the bad she does not realise that it is more complex in reality than in her head. 

“At one time he wanted to marry me, but he had to protect the throne.”

Doesn’t this sound all to familiar. “To protect the throne.” Sounds like an excuse So will have to marry Yeon Hwa. Yes he is protecting Soo but we all know that Soo’s life is not about sharing her husband. OTL. I can’t deal with this drama. Like UGHHHHHH.

“I wash the bodies of the women that will become his.” That was the saddest line that came out of Lady Oh’s mouth. You can see the pain and sadness in her eyes. She now serves the one she loved if that’s not heartbreaking I don’t know what is.

When Soo rejects her offer to leave there is nothing but agony and desperation in Lady Oh’s eyes. I feel like she has one question that is circling her mind. “How much longer can I protect this girl?”

Lady Oh was smart to tell Soo not to serve tea to the princes as everything could and will go against her if anything were to go wrong. But Soo being the naive kind-hearted girl she is gives in and serves the tea because another court lady was feeling “unwell”. 

Every time she had not listened to Lady Oh things have gone south. And ultimately this episode highlights everything going wrong for Soo. 

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Episode 11

The attempted poisoning of the Crown Prince is a deed that will result in a painful and torturous death. Lady Crazy is one no good woman and although I want to curse at her repeatedly I am going to take repeated deep breaths so I refrain from doing so. Soo is obviously framed for this and being Soo she will no doubt try and find justice in all of this. However knowing Lady Oh’s love for Soo she steps in. 

“Someday you will regret how cowardly  were today. The one time you turn your back on her will haunt your conscience forever." - to Wook

I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR TELLING WOOK THAT HE IS USELESS AND DIDN'T SAVE ANYONE. If anyone was to tell it to him straight it would be Lady Oh. I hope he realises his incompetence and lack of resolution. The shock due to the utter truth she speaks really hits him.

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When she serves tea to the King for the last time she "confesses" her plot to kill the Crown Prince. When the King refuses to take in anything she says we hear about her past. It was Queen Yoo who has poisoned her tea and caused her miscarriage and the blame had been put onto Queen Hwangbo. MY LORD HOW CAN QUEEN YOO NEVER GET CUAGHT FOR ANYTHING SHE DOES WTF?!!?! "I cannot lose a girl who is like my own daughter." We finally hear from Lady Oh herself that she views Soo like her own daughter and thus wishes to protect her. She asks the King is he is going to turn a blind eye yet again. She tells him that she does not have much longer to live due to her illness and that this will not only help him and his Kingdom but it will save the life of Soo and put her out of her misery. She states that "this is her final request." This for me was one of the most heartbreaking scenes I have seen so far.

When Soo finds out she has been pardoned as the "real" culprit has been found she is stunned. But when she realises it is Lady Oh she is in complete utter disbelief. She drags Lady Oh through the passage which leads to the bath areas and says she wants to leave with her. It's already too late. Not leaving with Lady Oh when she initially requested will haunt Soo for the rest of her life. But Lady Oh tells her that it is not her fault and that she is not doing this for her but for the King. 

"I also protected what I wanted to protect. Now I need to pay for it." 

This scene had me balling my eyes out. As soon as Soo has someone who takes her under their wing and they become close they are taken away from her. It was such a cruel cruel sight to see.

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It pained my heart to the very core to see Soo in this state. She was begging for Lady Oh’s life. She knelt for 2 days in hopes that the King will change his mind but it was to no avail.

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The final scene between Lady Oh and Queen Yoo was great. Although Lady Oh has suffered terribly because of this particular psychotic b**** in the end she is able to hold her own and let Queen Yoo know that she has not lost. Lady Oh knows that death does no mean losing. "You have never beaten me. Not once."

"Please live a long healthy life, Your Majesty. How lonely that life will be, I will be watching even in my afterlife." That small smirk she gave to me showed that she knew she had won.

"It's enough for me if one person remembers me." Unlike Queen Yoo who seems to think it's a popularity contest Lady Oh knows that for a fact someone will remember her. To me this shows that Lady Oh's words did affect her as she had to back up why she wouldn't be lonely. This shows that she is very self-conscience of the fact that what Lady Oh has said may very well be true. 

Lady Oh knows that even thought the King married all these other women and had children with them she was ultimately the only woman in his heart. To me this is highlighted when he grants her her final request and although it is a sad ending to their love story it ultimately emphasises that he loved her till the very end. THAT'S RIGHT QUEEN B**** YOU GOT NOTHING. PLEASE BE GONE SOON!

Lady Oh's death for me was very well done. I mean of course I didn't want her to die but the way she exited was an amazing wrap to her character. To me she was definitely the wisest person in the palace and she was smart about the moves she made. She definitely taught our heroine some of the fundamental things about the palace before her departure and for that I am very grateful. I sincerely hope her words resonate with Soo and that Soo will take her advice and live life in the palace carefully. Now that she is no longer around there is one less person that is looking out for her.

Thank you Lady Oh for being so amazing. Definitely one of my favourite characters in this show and it was definitely short-lived. May you rest in peace.

~SKXZ~

 

[rei_smasher11]

51 minutes ago, qwenli said:

Maybe if hs n we ever jump off the cliff the ratings will hit 10. Haha.

The Korean viewers are the evil queen. I never understood her, I never will.  

 

Yeah sadly it is still in 3rd place. I thought SHR will increase in ratings after Monster but no. I will never understand Korean viewers. 

Anyway just finished watching Ep 11 with subs and I must say this is my fave episode even though it's a sad one. 

Now I'm wondering how will they finish this in just 9 eps. I think there's a lot story to tell! 

Next week will be my birthday week so I hope Ep 12 & 13 will be good! 

[shairli]

Ommo! yesterday I was @ page 715.. today already 761! How to catch up... schedule is tight today!

Just to share... never in my life I'm using actors pic as profile.. yes, today is THE day & I'm lovin it!  LJG you're the man now (maybe too obsessed with Wang So)

[Evelyn C]

6 minutes ago, rei_smasher11 said:

 

Yeah sadly it is still in 3rd place. I thought SHR will increase in ratings after Monster but no. I will never understand Korean viewers. 

Anyway just finished watching Ep 11 with subs and I must say this is my fave episode even though it's a sad one. 

Now I'm wondering how will they finish this in just 9 eps. I think there's a lot story to tell! 

Next week will be my birthday week so I hope Ep 12 & 13 will be good! 

Happy birthday in advance @rei_smasher11! Let's hope for good ratings (if not we can all just love our drama by ourselves, heh) and another amazing Moonday !

[raks86]

Once again, I realized that a show must not be judged by its ratings only. Last night't episode was absolutely amazing! I even cried during HS and Lady Oh's cave scene!  IU was brilliant in this episode ! Hands down the best epi so far

 

 

[flower4junsu]

@MadraRua

Thanks for the gifs.....thanks for the tutorial too....although its quite complicated for me I'm not too hightech  If I'm not too busy with work-things...really want to learn.

Dear...can you help this noona....??

Usually if I want to put picture in this forum I get the url from tinypic....why lately I cannot get the code...is there something wrong with my lappy???Tq in advance

[chrissyllee]

Does anyone know if they are going to show the mask kiss scene?

Did we rule that out already? I really hope they show it in the upcoming episodes.

I really hope that YH get married to Wy. They are meant for each other.

 

I do agree that our OTP are acting like a long time married couple. Especially in the jail cell scene. Definitely swoon worthy.

[violet90]

23 minutes ago, sukbin said:

Princess YH is the junior version of Queen SMS and she does not have to look far to see her future. She will ended up like her, marrying the man of power to feed her greed but at the same time loving him. Only that despite her power, she will never succeed to own the heart of the man she loves. He will always longed for someone else, ironically, a court lady! And same with Haesoo...Lady Oh is basically her future - laid right in front of her face.

Yes, the image (not allowed to quote image here) is so beautiful and deep. Haesoo and So standing and sitting straight looking at a new future while Wook walking a defeated walk, turning back on both of them. 

 

i agree with what you said about YH but HS will never be like Lady Oh... King Taejo is a coward and hopeless guy.. he did't even stand up and protect the girl that he love back then and now its the same.. he still can't do anything even if he the most powerful guy in the palace.. he literally sending his lover (who sacrifice her life to devoted to him) to death... 

WS??? even if he can't married HS no doubt that HS will be someone as high as queen when he became a king... its his nature to protect HS and when he became a king he will never allowed HS miss treated or judging her.. trust me nobody will mess with HS cause that the only person that WS will care in palace.. 

in novel 4th will punish whoever messing with Ruoxi whether direct or indirectly... that's how far 4th love toward Ruoxi nobody else matter not even his brother.... 

so HS will not be Lady Oh but she will still suffer like her.. suffocate in palace battle and slowly ruin herself even if WS love her to death....

like 8th said in cvers after Ruoxi died.... they all failed Ruoxi......

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'back then i gave up on Ruoxi because of power , abandoned the vows we made to never leave each other.. now imperial brother , for the Qing empire and the past grievances has also given up the chance to be together forever.. you're the same with me.. the thing you once have are all gone in the end.. with Ruoxi you're the same with me.. a failure'

in a way all guy failed Ruoxi and its lead to her death... not saying 4th don't love her but its because of his love Ruoxi gone...its a heartbreaking scene when 2 guy who love Ruoxi the most acknowledge that they both fail the women they love....

 

[mamamya88]

This thread is on blazing fire!!!! Its hot in here...

I hate the king for being unwise and unjust just becoz he wanted to protect the throne...For him sacrifise a life is necessery to gain more...i am greatful if he did die in next episode..

I think they deleted the HS torturing scenes in episode 11..thats why IU clarified to her fan that episode 11 contained episode 12 scenes..becoz everything were too much already... enough already to slice our heart...adding the torturing scenes will eventually torture us too....

[LadyOne]

54 minutes ago, violet90 said:

i'm now saying goodbye to the old HS.. i think the HS that first arrived on Songak already died the moment Lady Oh dies...

i personally don't think she will recover as herself at all now... seeing next week the only person who still stay with her is WS and my take BaekAh and WJ will be on her side too but she will know now that this is not the era that let her be herself.. she gotta tough up and face it all and she will... i think HS is one of toughest character in here cause whatever happen to her she always bounce back....this what happen to Ruoxi too.. the reality of palace hit her really hard and it changed her in so many way.. became more mature and graceful and i think HS will be like this too..

i also want to clarify that WS and HS love story is not the usual one.. they already care for each other deeply and this will change my guess in the next eps to love on HS side.. they will love each other in the middle of throne battle and its not an easy love too.. if you expect light hearted romance you won't get it from this couple... their love is so much deep and mature.. they will rip your heart out and make you cry with the way they love also the way they hurt each other.... and i can't wait to see this kind of love.. its been a long time since i witness this type of romance.... 

its TongHua most epic and heartbreaking romance of all.....

WS and HS is on their path to create that romance.......... 

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@violet90 I could really feel your POV.

I totally agreed with you that WS and HS romance is going to be heartbreaking.

 

[fuyukoneko]

6 minutes ago, chrissyllee said:

Does anyone know if they are going to show the mask kiss scene?

Did we rule that out already? I really hope they show it in the upcoming episodes.

I really hope that YH get married to Wy. They are meant for each other.

 

I do agree that our OTP are acting like a long time married couple. Especially in the jail cell scene. Definitely swoon worthy.

 

I can't find it (it was over two hundred pages ago), but someone said that the mask kiss scene was suppose to happen in the earlier episodes before WS moves into the palace in the original script (WS borrows Wook's mask and HS confesses to WS thinking its Wook at a festival), so I think we might not get to see that scene ><

[valentvcd]

WS can be look like batman or dracula  

[UnniSarah]

7 hours ago, akinahana89 said:

Oh my God. How could anyone not love So and not fall in love with him especially after today's episode? I'm bawling my eyes out right now. For the death of Lady Oh, for Soo's pain, for So's empathy and the way he feels her pain just as deeply. For the way So tries to absorb So's pain and physically tries to protect her from it, even though it doesn't work like that. He may not know the right way to love when he's panicking, but no one can doubt the depth of his feelings for her. For the way he's willing to sacrifice everything, EVERYTHING, for her. For his lack of hesitation in everything that he does just to ensure So is as okay as she can be.

Just as I knew he would be, Wang So is amazing and loyal to the end. He's the unsinkable ship for me and has been since the beginning. I didn't even watch with subs yet... but goodness, I'm all torn up right now.

 @akinahana89... Well said Chingu , WS's love is eternal and very deep. The fact that he is willing to protect her with his life. What I loved about this episode was how he wanted to give her the chance to run before they found her. One of the reason he left the room before anyone can see he was poisoned and for everyone to realize someone tried to kill the Crown Prince. If anyone doesn't fall for his heroism must be blind and stupid.  Wang So's loyalty and love for HAE Soo is very deep. Wang Jung does take after his brother and it pisses me off that he hasn't realized how much they have in common. 

[sukbin]

10 minutes ago, violet90 said:

in novel 4th will punish whoever messing with Ruoxi whether direct or indirectly... that's how far 4th love toward Ruoxi nobody else matter not even his brother.... 

I have watched the C-version and I know how big 4th love is but watching the trailer which feature Haesoo wearing the same uniform that Lady Oh worn and Haesoo kept on chanting "I trust that people around me won't change if I don't change..." I may be getting the hint that there will be some similarities between her fate and Lady Oh, though not exactly the same as I don't think she would choose to stay in the palace just to stay by his side even when she disdain him at later stage. Especially that we know Wang So will marry Yeon Hwa. Will she not be like Lady Oh? Bathing the woman who will marry her lover? Somewhat the words spoken by Lady Oh and Haesoo seems to hint towards this direction. Lest, those are what I feel.

[skxz]

MY GOSH THIS SCENE!!!!!

When Soo sees that So has come to visit and he is fine she can’t help but be happy. Even after being tortured and being in the worst condition she has ever been in, the fact that he is okay and alive puts her at ease. But him seeing her like this really pains him. He can barely even look at her.

 

“Did you drink it because you knew I would be under suspicion for serving the tea?”

“That’s nonsense.”

“I’m not a pathetic man who drinks poison because of a girl."

OMG save my soul So denying that he did it to save her but a minute ago he told Wook thats exactly why he did it. Guess he’s trying to make it less obvious I’m so dead from how adorable they are. So quit playing man. You for sure already have her heart everyone is just in pure denial. Please you love her we all know it, your expressions are screaming it. Have mercy on my soul.

“If you act so stubborn do you think my feelings will change?”

Hate to break it to you Soo but your feelings won’t change because he has already taken your whole heart. However your feelings for Wook would beg to differ.

“If you do this, it becomes harder for me to turn away from you, Your Highness.”

“We both managed to survive and not die.”

Yes that’s right couples who survive together stay together!

Till the end she is still worried about him and telling him to take care of himself and listen to the doctor. She can’t bear to see him hurt and he can’t bear to see her in the state that she’s in. They both have a very heavy heart. He is however very determined to get her out of this mess. And Wang So does not break his promises. One of my favourite scenes!

[solelylurking]

1 hour ago, kilovekyo said:

@solelylurking Sorry cut your post, and i agree with you about Wook. Yes before i said he's coward and hate to said. I'm actually pity him, i can feel his complex feeling to choose between his own choice or family, it's big burden for his life, it's always sad and tragic story if you think you find your happiness but your close one (family) against it (just like Romeo & Juliet story), in the end you have to choose and let it go, they didn't understand you will suffer for your entire life. But i didn't agree because of this Wook change himself become a bad guy. 

I'm also think about Wang So if he will marry Yeon Hwa, is that mean Wang So just like Wang Wook? He's change...he also couldn't take his promise to Hae Soo. Just like Lady Oh said Hae Soo better don't trust people, but Go Ha Jin and Hae Soo face same problems in her life, her feeling always be betrayed by her close one because she always want to trust someone truly, poor Go Ha Jin and Hae Soo.

I hope Wang So think about this in the end he break her heart with his marriage, Wang So owe her in future life that he should only a man and a friend she can trust, never break his promise again T_T be strong Go Ha Jin and Hae Soo, you will find your true love.

ps.i should catch about 10 pages ^^ wait for me...

 

Well about Wook, I think he must have felt (I'm sorry for making you guys think I know him in person. But this is just purely guessing based on his character), now he had given up the most precious thing in his life for becoming a King, why didn't he make it come true by any means necessary? If you think he is changing from the person we've met in the early eps, yes. But does he really change? I don't think so. Wook is the same Wook, he only hide behind his persona. Us, like everybody else surround him, has been deceive. If you be kind enough to dig on my past post, I already told you there something wrong in his character from the first eps. That's why I said he's a wolf in a sheep clothes. That's just how good of a bad guy he is. The only thing change is now he doesn't even bother to hide it. Heart break makes him a bitter jealous person. If HS is living far away from him maybe he can hide his feeling away. But to see the love of your life getting courted and then proposed by a man (any man, not just WS) enough to make anyone be bitter. 

About WS marrying YH, he can't do anything if it is the King's order, same like Eun. WS is not the guy who easily change or sway. He stay firm to what he believe and to the people he love since the beginning. It must be as heart breaking for him as it is for Hae Soo. We must bear in mind that marriages in that time, specially to royals, is not the same as we are. They oftenly married without love, it's basically pure bussiness. Why they even have children? Because it goes without saying. The children will be the seal of the deal. 

[isengdoang]

the OST when Lady Oh died is so moving... would somebody tell me what's the song?

[ruizaio]

14 minutes ago, chrissyllee said:

Does anyone know if they are going to show the mask kiss scene?

Did we rule that out already? I really hope they show it in the upcoming episodes.

I really hope that YH get married to Wy. They are meant for each other.

 

I do agree that our OTP are acting like a long time married couple. Especially in the jail cell scene. Definitely swoon worthy.

 

The current speculation among Korean fans is that it will happen during a celebration in Mu's reign. Some people with great obervation skills have even narrowed down where this might happen based on some common background elements (lotus flowers, ducks, monkeys...) that were shown during the new year's ritual in the beginning of the show. 

1 minute ago, isengdoang said:

the OST when Lady Oh died is so moving... would somebody tell me what's the song?