Newsie Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 BTS‘s Rap Monster recently appeared as a guest on MBC‘s “Quiz to Change the World” and opened up about his impressive academic background. The October 16 episode of “Quiz to Change the World” features guests who were born in Seoul and guests who were born in other provinces of Korea. Rap Monster, who grew up […]The post BTS’s Rap Monster Impresses With His Academic Background on “Quiz to Change the World” appeared first on Soompi.View the full article
Guest novadestin Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies??
kalel Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? Because parents always think that providing for their children's education in any reasonable and unreasonable form is their duty. The outcome is not guaranteed though. Students get exhausted and, in the end, even the smarter ones may suffer burn-outs.Montessori education fights against these stereotypical narrow-minded approach. It's not possible for everyone to become a doctor the same way it's not possible for everyone to become an artist nor an athlete.Education is a process of building a child's character while providing knowledge,- it should never be a "factory" of future professionals with big fat salaries.
Guest novadestin Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? Because parents always think that providing for their children's education in any reasonable and unreasonable form is their duty. The outcome is not guaranteed though. Students get exhausted and, in the end, even the smarter ones may suffer burn-outs.Montessori education fights against these stereotypical narrow-minded approach. It's not possible for everyone to become a doctor the same way it's not possible for everyone to become an artist nor an athlete.Education is a process of building a child's character while providing knowledge,- it should never be a "factory" of future professionals with big fat salaries.That doesn't answer my question at all and sounds like an advertisement.
orionight Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.
kalel Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? Because parents always think that providing for their children's education in any reasonable and unreasonable form is their duty. The outcome is not guaranteed though. Students get exhausted and, in the end, even the smarter ones may suffer burn-outs.Montessori education fights against these stereotypical narrow-minded approach. It's not possible for everyone to become a doctor the same way it's not possible for everyone to become an artist nor an athlete.Education is a process of building a child's character while providing knowledge,- it should never be a "factory" of future professionals with big fat salaries.That doesn't answer my question at all and sounds like an advertisement.Advertisement for what? I hope you don't mean Montessori education because that would be funny and odd...I don't know what more one should need to distinguish the difference between education focused on well-paid careers and education focused on students as individuals. Unless you're not familiar with the particular approach (I'm not talking about the Academies as an organisation, only the process), you could always check with the Italian Paedagogical Academy and their views on teaching from kindergarten to University (see, not everything on social media is an advertisement, there are things we can all learn once we don't jump at each other's throats). Though I understand the limitations of such a method in Asian societies, we have to admit that children's well-being is a common purpose on a global scale and that is our No1 priority.
kalel Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Education equals success everywhere on this planet. The difference is the definition of success itself,- that is what Asian societies should put in perspective to begin with. If success does not include "personal happiness" and "sense of fulfilment" on a high level, education leads to nowhere but to professional "zombies". More and more hours of after-school studying without proper focus on students as individuals nullify any possible effort. Students are human beings as well; not everyone is cut out for any profession and everyone has their own talents and strong points, too. I will never understand this sort of forced education without any distinction between personalities and their possibilities. The truth is I would have surely hated an educational environment like this, if I were in those students' shoes (God forbids!).
Guest cinnappo Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 6 hours ago, orionight said: 13 hours ago, novadestin said: How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Education equals success everywhere on this planet. The difference is the definition of success itself,- that is what Asian societies should put in perspective to begin with. If success does not include "personal happiness" and "sense of fulfilment" on a high level, education leads to nowhere but to professional "zombies". More and more hours of after-school studying without proper focus on students as individuals nullify any possible effort. Students are human beings as well; not everyone is cut out for any profession and everyone has their own talents and strong points, too. I will never understand this sort of forced education without any distinction between personalities and their possibilities. The truth is I would have surely hated an educational environment like this, if I were in those students' shoes (God forbids!). The OP isn't disagreeing that the education system in Korea has its faults and limitations - and honestly, neither would most Korean students. The suicide rate amonst adolescents in Korea is the highest in the world. It's not perfect, and certainly things need changing.That being said, the OP simply asked a question -- how would it be physically possible for Rap Monster to attend up to 50 prep schools, and why on Earth would he want to do so -- and were given an answer based on fact, not opinion. Though, I do have to disagree with your assertion that education is a universal definition of success. There are many societies where you can be considered successful without education. Success is a very broad concept that can be defined in many different ways, it just so happens that in Korea, the societal definition of success in a young person is measured by the grades and ranks they receive.
kalel Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 2 hours ago, kalel said: 9 hours ago, orionight said: 6 hours ago, orionight said: 16 hours ago, novadestin said: 13 hours ago, novadestin said: How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Education equals success everywhere on this planet. The difference is the definition of success itself,- that is what Asian societies should put in perspective to begin with. If success does not include "personal happiness" and "sense of fulfilment" on a high level, education leads to nowhere but to professional "zombies". More and more hours of after-school studying without proper focus on students as individuals nullify any possible effort. Students are human beings as well; not everyone is cut out for any profession and everyone has their own talents and strong points, too. I will never understand this sort of forced education without any distinction between personalities and their possibilities. The truth is I would have surely hated an educational environment like this, if I were in those students' shoes (God forbids!). The OP isn't disagreeing that the education system in Korea has its faults and limitations - and honestly, neither would most Korean students. The suicide rate amonst adolescents in Korea is the highest in the world. It's not perfect, and certainly things need changing.That being said, the OP simply asked a question -- how would it be physically possible for Rap Monster to attend up to 50 prep schools, and why on Earth would he want to do so -- and were given an answer based on fact, not opinion. Though, I do have to disagree with your assertion that education is a universal definition of success. There are many societies where you can be considered successful without education. Success is a very broad concept that can be defined in many different ways, it just so happens that in Korea, the societal definition of success in a young person is measured by the grades and ranks they receive. Education is one of the most important factors in developing one's personality and interests (the other fondamental factor is family, according to Human Psychological development scale) and I can't see how it may become obsolete in any society. It's not necessarily connected to "professional success" and when it does, it's important not to be forced since success does not always lead to "happiness" which should be parents' goal as far as their children are concerned (and not vice versa by any means)Personally, I find anyone's attending 50 different prep schools totally impossible and it could be a tad exaggerating; nevertheless, even if he exaggerates, he still gives us a pretty good idea of what people find important or not in these societies.
Guest novadestin Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Thank you very much for explaining things. Advertisement for what? I hope you don't mean Montessori education because that would be funny and odd...I don't know what more one should need to distinguish the difference between education focused on well-paid careers and education focused on students as individuals. Unless you're not familiar with the particular approach (I'm not talking about the Academies as an organisation, only the process), you could always check with the Italian Paedagogical Academy and their views on teaching from kindergarten to University (see, not everything on social media is an advertisement, there are things we can all learn once we don't jump at each other's throats). Though I understand the limitations of such a method in Asian societies, we have to admit that children's well-being is a common purpose on a global scale and that is our No1 priority.I have never heard of "Montessori education" before and your post made it sound like advertising for a school, no reason to poke fun at me for misunderstanding. Either way, again, you completely missed the point of my question, but that's OK as someone else provided an answer. The OP isn't disagreeing that the education system in Korea has its faults and limitations - and honestly, neither would most Korean students. The suicide rate amonst adolescents in Korea is the highest in the world. It's not perfect, and certainly things need changing.That being said, the OP simply asked a question -- how would it be physically possible for Rap Monster to attend up to 50 prep schools, and why on Earth would he want to do so -- and were given an answer based on fact, not opinion.Though, I do have to disagree with your assertion that education is a universal definition of success. There are many societies where you can be considered successful without education. Success is a very broad concept that can be defined in many different ways, it just so happens that in Korea, the societal definition of success in a young person is measured by the grades and ranks they receive.Exactly, that's all I was asking
kalel Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Thank you very much for explaining things. Advertisement for what? I hope you don't mean Montessori education because that would be funny and odd...I don't know what more one should need to distinguish the difference between education focused on well-paid careers and education focused on students as individuals. Unless you're not familiar with the particular approach (I'm not talking about the Academies as an organisation, only the process), you could always check with the Italian Paedagogical Academy and their views on teaching from kindergarten to University (see, not everything on social media is an advertisement, there are things we can all learn once we don't jump at each other's throats). Though I understand the limitations of such a method in Asian societies, we have to admit that children's well-being is a common purpose on a global scale and that is our No1 priority.I have never heard of "Montessori education" before and your post made it sound like advertising for a school, no reason to poke fun at me for misunderstanding. Either way, again, you completely missed the point of my question, but that's OK as someone else provided an answer. The OP isn't disagreeing that the education system in Korea has its faults and limitations - and honestly, neither would most Korean students. The suicide rate amonst adolescents in Korea is the highest in the world. It's not perfect, and certainly things need changing.That being said, the OP simply asked a question -- how would it be physically possible for Rap Monster to attend up to 50 prep schools, and why on Earth would he want to do so -- and were given an answer based on fact, not opinion.Though, I do have to disagree with your assertion that education is a universal definition of success. There are many societies where you can be considered successful without education. Success is a very broad concept that can be defined in many different ways, it just so happens that in Korea, the societal definition of success in a young person is measured by the grades and ranks they receive.Exactly, that's all I was asking How and why would someone attend 40 and 50 different after-school academies?? In Korea, it's not unusual for the average student to attend anywhere between three and five after school academies. Their average daily schedule is arriving to school around 8:30 am and leaving at four, attending after-school academies until about midnight, and then coming home and studying until 3 or 4 am. Lately, the government has attempted to cut back on the excessive studying by mandating that all academies must be closed by a certain hour, but some get around this by continuing lessons with the lights off and curtains drawn. Of course, judging by their reactions, Rap Monster's case is not that of the average student, but depending on how many times he changed or completed shorter courses at these academies, he could easily have attended 40 or 50 academies over 13 years of education.As for the why, Koreans are very dedicated when it comes to their education. As Rap Monster called it, it truly is "education fever." A lot of it has to do with the fact that even just 50 or 60 years ago Korea was dirt poor after being liberated from Japanese rule, and education (along with economic policies) helped bring the nation out of poverty at the fastest rate in history. Education equals success here.Education equals success everywhere on this planet. The difference is the definition of success itself,- that is what Asian societies should put in perspective to begin with. If success does not include "personal happiness" and "sense of fulfilment" on a high level, education leads to nowhere but to professional "zombies". More and more hours of after-school studying without proper focus on students as individuals nullify any possible effort. Students are human beings as well; not everyone is cut out for any profession and everyone has their own talents and strong points, too. I will never understand this sort of forced education without any distinction between personalities and their possibilities. The truth is I would have surely hated an educational environment like this, if I were in those students' shoes (God forbids!). The OP isn't disagreeing that the education system in Korea has its faults and limitations - and honestly, neither would most Korean students. The suicide rate amonst adolescents in Korea is the highest in the world. It's not perfect, and certainly things need changing.That being said, the OP simply asked a question -- how would it be physically possible for Rap Monster to attend up to 50 prep schools, and why on Earth would he want to do so -- and were given an answer based on fact, not opinion.Though, I do have to disagree with your assertion that education is a universal definition of success. There are many societies where you can be considered successful without education. Success is a very broad concept that can be defined in many different ways, it just so happens that in Korea, the societal definition of success in a young person is measured by the grades and ranks they reThat's exactly why we should search a bit before posting (or writing, or publishing, or saying, or suspecting) an answer in haste, because we might be wrong . And, that's, amica, what is the Montessory education (method). It doesn't matter how many hours we study (alone or in 50 prep schools) or how good our grades are. First of all, we all need to learn how to think of our own (using our brains and not the teachers') and everything else will follow. Thousands of hours of teaching mediocre students (in order to get decent grades) won't turn them into geniuses...I guess that's what most Korean parents expect from all those prep schools which, anyone with average IQ can see, is simply impossible!
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