Newsie Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 At noon September 17, Kim Hyun Joong’s lawyer Lee Jae Man held a press conference at his firm CheongPa, where he revealed a letter sent from the singer, who is currently in the middle of his mandatory military service. In the letter, the singer carefully apologizes, and explains that the recent rumor of him refusing […]The post Kim Hyun Joong Claims Ex-Girlfriend Is Lying to Him, Explains His Side appeared first on Soompi.View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ViktoriaNovakova Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 SOOMPI, KHJ's case is just one example when you constantly mislead your readers and intentionally post twisted information. Yet you probably failed to realize there are many people - both fans and non-fans - who take the time to translate related materials from Korean on their own. So it's not like you can post outright lies and nobody will notice.In case someone is interested in what they didn't put in the above article:On the contrary to what's being said above, KHJ did not say he regretted doing anything wrong. He felt sorry for his family and friends who could not have happily sent him off to the army. He blames himself for that they had to worry about the scandal but not for causing the scandal itself. This is where the above article lies because KHJ's attorney said police shall start investigating Ms.Choi 3 weeks after the alleged birth of her child. That clearly says they speak of criminal investigation against Choi. KHJ does not admit any fault here (meaning what she's been telling the media about him is not true).As to the paternity test - the press conference was held to make clear the fact Ms.Choi and her attorney have been lying about that "KHJ is avoiding the paternity test". He said they didn't even tell him any details about the child that they say is his, he saw no pictures, even his family are denied access to the child, yet Choi wants him to admit paternity without the test, take responsibility = give her money. He still doubts whether the child is his own - for obvious reasons - but in case it is, his side wants Choi to stop playing games and enable them put the child in family registry of the Kims and provide for it. KHJ also said the court decides about custody and that he naturally wants to bring up a child of his, yet if he was not allowed to by authorities, he will of course at least pay alimony - alimony for the child, not for Choi. He also said he has no intention to get back together with her and the paternity test and related matters won't affect the current lawsuits or future criminal charges based on further investigation against Choi. Also, SOOMPI forgot to mention Choi threatened KHJ she would sue him for avoiding paternity test (although he had no clue about the birth of the child) unless he takes a leave from his duty in the army and takes DNA test together with her and the child (that sounds like she's truly scared of him, right? - irony). Now that it's been revealed he already had a DNA test done and paid for her test and the child's test in advance, she says it's not necessary to prove paternity. Well, maybe it's not necessary for her but it definately is for the Kims and for the public whose sympathy she's been begging for. Now I'm impressed by tabloids not running after Choi and her alleged child, not trying to find out in which hospital she gave birth, the gender of the child etc. etc. It almost looks like we're entering a new era where people have some decency. In such case it would be but fair of you to stop suffocating innocent people with juicy stories you made up and let the court decide who is the victim and who's the guilty party. Be so kind and stop lying, on Sept 23rd there will be another hearing at court. As we all know, the text messages and other speculations you serve as respectable evidence were not accepted by the court. Therefore they were labelled unreliable, as you have no way to persuade us these are legit. How can we trust such "evidence" just because Choi told you to post it and you did? That's absurd.When apparently it's no problem for you to share every word Choi ever said, you could find enough space to post full translation of the single ever statement of KHJ about this whole thing. SHAME ON YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teleri Nyfain Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 SOOMPI, KHJ's case is just one example when you constantly mislead your readers and intentionally post twisted information. Yet you probably failed to realize there are many people - both fans and non-fans - who take the time to translate related materials from Korean on their own. So it's not like you can post outright lies and nobody will notice.In case someone is interested in what they didn't put in the above article:On the contrary to what's being said above, KHJ did not say he regretted doing anything wrong. He felt sorry for his family and friends who could not have happily sent him off to the army. He blames himself for that they had to worry about the scandal but not for causing the scandal itself. This is where the above article lies because KHJ's attorney said police shall start investigating Ms.Choi 3 weeks after the alleged birth of her child. That clearly says they speak of criminal investigation against Choi. KHJ does not admit any fault here (meaning what she's been telling the media about him is not true).As to the paternity test - the press conference was held to make clear the fact Ms.Choi and her attorney have been lying about that "KHJ is avoiding the paternity test". He said they didn't even tell him any details about the child that they say is his, he saw no pictures, even his family are denied access to the child, yet Choi wants him to admit paternity without the test, take responsibility = give her money. He still doubts whether the child is his own - for obvious reasons - but in case it is, his side wants Choi to stop playing games and enable them put the child in family registry of the Kims and provide for it. KHJ also said the court decides about custody and that he naturally wants to bring up a child of his, yet if he was not allowed to by authorities, he will of course at least pay alimony - alimony for the child, not for Choi. He also said he has no intention to get back together with her and the paternity test and related matters won't affect the current lawsuits or future criminal charges based on further investigation against Choi. Also, SOOMPI forgot to mention Choi threatened KHJ she would sue him for avoiding paternity test (although he had no clue about the birth of the child) unless he takes a leave from his duty in the army and takes DNA test together with her and the child (that sounds like she's truly scared of him, right? - irony). Now that it's been revealed he already had a DNA test done and paid for her test and the child's test in advance, she says it's not necessary to prove paternity. Well, maybe it's not necessary for her but it definately is for the Kims and for the public whose sympathy she's been begging for. Now I'm impressed by tabloids not running after Choi and her alleged child, not trying to find out in which hospital she gave birth, the gender of the child etc. etc. It almost looks like we're entering a new era where people have some decency. In such case it would be but fair of you to stop suffocating innocent people with juicy stories you made up and let the court decide who is the victim and who's the guilty party. Be so kind and stop lying, on Sept 23rd there will be another hearing at court. As we all know, the text messages and other speculations you serve as respectable evidence were not accepted by the court. Therefore they were labelled unreliable, as you have no way to persuade us these are legit. How can we trust such "evidence" just because Choi told you to post it and you did? That's absurd.When apparently it's no problem for you to share every word Choi ever said, you could find enough space to post full translation of the single ever statement of KHJ about this whole thing. SHAME ON YOU! Excellent summation. Here, here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teleri Nyfain Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Can you not just post the full translation (ie an ACCURATE one) of KHJ's letter and have done w/the inaccurate summations etc? Even AllKPop managed to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutzmanN Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 SOOMPI, KHJ's case is just one example when you constantly mislead your readers and intentionally post twisted information. Yet you probably failed to realize there are many people - both fans and non-fans - who take the time to translate related materials from Korean on their own. So it's not like you can post outright lies and nobody will notice.In case someone is interested in what they didn't put in the above article:On the contrary to what's being said above, KHJ did not say he regretted doing anything wrong. He felt sorry for his family and friends who could not have happily sent him off to the army. He blames himself for that they had to worry about the scandal but not for causing the scandal itself. This is where the above article lies because KHJ's attorney said police shall start investigating Ms.Choi 3 weeks after the alleged birth of her child. That clearly says they speak of criminal investigation against Choi. KHJ does not admit any fault here (meaning what she's been telling the media about him is not true).As to the paternity test - the press conference was held to make clear the fact Ms.Choi and her attorney have been lying about that "KHJ is avoiding the paternity test". He said they didn't even tell him any details about the child that they say is his, he saw no pictures, even his family are denied access to the child, yet Choi wants him to admit paternity without the test, take responsibility = give her money. He still doubts whether the child is his own - for obvious reasons - but in case it is, his side wants Choi to stop playing games and enable them put the child in family registry of the Kims and provide for it. KHJ also said the court decides about custody and that he naturally wants to bring up a child of his, yet if he was not allowed to by authorities, he will of course at least pay alimony - alimony for the child, not for Choi. He also said he has no intention to get back together with her and the paternity test and related matters won't affect the current lawsuits or future criminal charges based on further investigation against Choi. Also, SOOMPI forgot to mention Choi threatened KHJ she would sue him for avoiding paternity test (although he had no clue about the birth of the child) unless he takes a leave from his duty in the army and takes DNA test together with her and the child (that sounds like she's truly scared of him, right? - irony). Now that it's been revealed he already had a DNA test done and paid for her test and the child's test in advance, she says it's not necessary to prove paternity. Well, maybe it's not necessary for her but it definately is for the Kims and for the public whose sympathy she's been begging for. Now I'm impressed by tabloids not running after Choi and her alleged child, not trying to find out in which hospital she gave birth, the gender of the child etc. etc. It almost looks like we're entering a new era where people have some decency. In such case it would be but fair of you to stop suffocating innocent people with juicy stories you made up and let the court decide who is the victim and who's the guilty party. Be so kind and stop lying, on Sept 23rd there will be another hearing at court. As we all know, the text messages and other speculations you serve as respectable evidence were not accepted by the court. Therefore they were labelled unreliable, as you have no way to persuade us these are legit. How can we trust such "evidence" just because Choi told you to post it and you did? That's absurd.When apparently it's no problem for you to share every word Choi ever said, you could find enough space to post full translation of the single ever statement of KHJ about this whole thing. SHAME ON YOU! wohhh!! I may not be a fan of Kim Hyun Joong, but wwow your translation and explanation just gave me a "goosebump''!! I admired your bravery expressing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Banger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 SOOMPI, KHJ's case is just one example when you constantly mislead your readers and intentionally post twisted information. Yet you probably failed to realize there are many people - both fans and non-fans - who take the time to translate related materials from Korean on their own. So it's not like you can post outright lies and nobody will notice.In case someone is interested in what they didn't put in the above article:On the contrary to what's being said above, KHJ did not say he regretted doing anything wrong. He felt sorry for his family and friends who could not have happily sent him off to the army. He blames himself for that they had to worry about the scandal but not for causing the scandal itself. This is where the above article lies because KHJ's attorney said police shall start investigating Ms.Choi 3 weeks after the alleged birth of her child. That clearly says they speak of criminal investigation against Choi. KHJ does not admit any fault here (meaning what she's been telling the media about him is not true).As to the paternity test - the press conference was held to make clear the fact Ms.Choi and her attorney have been lying about that "KHJ is avoiding the paternity test". He said they didn't even tell him any details about the child that they say is his, he saw no pictures, even his family are denied access to the child, yet Choi wants him to admit paternity without the test, take responsibility = give her money. He still doubts whether the child is his own - for obvious reasons - but in case it is, his side wants Choi to stop playing games and enable them put the child in family registry of the Kims and provide for it. KHJ also said the court decides about custody and that he naturally wants to bring up a child of his, yet if he was not allowed to by authorities, he will of course at least pay alimony - alimony for the child, not for Choi. He also said he has no intention to get back together with her and the paternity test and related matters won't affect the current lawsuits or future criminal charges based on further investigation against Choi. Also, SOOMPI forgot to mention Choi threatened KHJ she would sue him for avoiding paternity test (although he had no clue about the birth of the child) unless he takes a leave from his duty in the army and takes DNA test together with her and the child (that sounds like she's truly scared of him, right? - irony). Now that it's been revealed he already had a DNA test done and paid for her test and the child's test in advance, she says it's not necessary to prove paternity. Well, maybe it's not necessary for her but it definately is for the Kims and for the public whose sympathy she's been begging for. Now I'm impressed by tabloids not running after Choi and her alleged child, not trying to find out in which hospital she gave birth, the gender of the child etc. etc. It almost looks like we're entering a new era where people have some decency. In such case it would be but fair of you to stop suffocating innocent people with juicy stories you made up and let the court decide who is the victim and who's the guilty party. Be so kind and stop lying, on Sept 23rd there will be another hearing at court. As we all know, the text messages and other speculations you serve as respectable evidence were not accepted by the court. Therefore they were labelled unreliable, as you have no way to persuade us these are legit. How can we trust such "evidence" just because Choi told you to post it and you did? That's absurd.When apparently it's no problem for you to share every word Choi ever said, you could find enough space to post full translation of the single ever statement of KHJ about this whole thing. SHAME ON YOU! I believe Soompi did a perfectly fine job of condensing the attorney's press conference and Kim Hyun Joong's letter. Why is it necessary to rehash every single piece of information that has been written about this case? People who are advocates for either side certainly don't depend on one news site for all the info of this fiasco. They hit the high points. He has submitted his DNA, his ex is now backtracking on the test. His ex told him the sex of the baby. He defended himself against false claims that he is avoiding the paternity test and he has no intention of ever getting near psycho-woman, Mommy Dearest again.It's also incredibly irresponsible to accuse a news site of being influenced by one of the defendants in this ongoing battle. Even KHJ stated in his letter that he is tired of seeing this play out in the media and can only imagine how his fans feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC7 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 4 hours ago, ViktoriaNovakova said: SOOMPI, KHJ's case is just one example when you constantly mislead your readers and intentionally post twisted information. Yet you probably failed to realize there are many people - both fans and non-fans - who take the time to translate related materials from Korean on their own. So it's not like you can post outright lies and nobody will notice.In case someone is interested in what they didn't put in the above article:On the contrary to what's being said above, KHJ did not say he regretted doing anything wrong. He felt sorry for his family and friends who could not have happily sent him off to the army. He blames himself for that they had to worry about the scandal but not for causing the scandal itself. This is where the above article lies because KHJ's attorney said police shall start investigating Ms.Choi 3 weeks after the alleged birth of her child. That clearly says they speak of criminal investigation against Choi. KHJ does not admit any fault here (meaning what she's been telling the media about him is not true).As to the paternity test - the press conference was held to make clear the fact Ms.Choi and her attorney have been lying about that "KHJ is avoiding the paternity test". He said they didn't even tell him any details about the child that they say is his, he saw no pictures, even his family are denied access to the child, yet Choi wants him to admit paternity without the test, take responsibility = give her money. He still doubts whether the child is his own - for obvious reasons - but in case it is, his side wants Choi to stop playing games and enable them put the child in family registry of the Kims and provide for it. KHJ also said the court decides about custody and that he naturally wants to bring up a child of his, yet if he was not allowed to by authorities, he will of course at least pay alimony - alimony for the child, not for Choi. He also said he has no intention to get back together with her and the paternity test and related matters won't affect the current lawsuits or future criminal charges based on further investigation against Choi. Also, SOOMPI forgot to mention Choi threatened KHJ she would sue him for avoiding paternity test (although he had no clue about the birth of the child) unless he takes a leave from his duty in the army and takes DNA test together with her and the child (that sounds like she's truly scared of him, right? - irony). Now that it's been revealed he already had a DNA test done and paid for her test and the child's test in advance, she says it's not necessary to prove paternity. Well, maybe it's not necessary for her but it definately is for the Kims and for the public whose sympathy she's been begging for. Now I'm impressed by tabloids not running after Choi and her alleged child, not trying to find out in which hospital she gave birth, the gender of the child etc. etc. It almost looks like we're entering a new era where people have some decency. In such case it would be but fair of you to stop suffocating innocent people with juicy stories you made up and let the court decide who is the victim and who's the guilty party. Be so kind and stop lying, on Sept 23rd there will be another hearing at court. As we all know, the text messages and other speculations you serve as respectable evidence were not accepted by the court. Therefore they were labelled unreliable, as you have no way to persuade us these are legit. How can we trust such "evidence" just because Choi told you to post it and you did? That's absurd.When apparently it's no problem for you to share every word Choi ever said, you could find enough space to post full translation of the single ever statement of KHJ about this whole thing. SHAME ON YOU! I believe Soompi did a perfectly fine job of condensing the attorney's press conference and Kim Hyun Joong's letter. Why is it necessary to rehash every single piece of information that has been written about this case? People who are advocates for either side certainly don't depend on one news site for all the info of this fiasco. They hit the high points. He has submitted his DNA, his ex is now backtracking on the test. His ex told him the sex of the baby. He defended himself against false claims that he is avoiding the paternity test and he has no intention of ever getting near psycho-woman, Mommy Dearest again.It's also incredibly irresponsible to accuse a news site of being influenced by one of the defendants in this ongoing battle. Even KHJ stated in his letter that he is tired of seeing this play out in the media and can only imagine how his fans feel. Applause! You said it all, wow I don't even need to say anything. (o v o)/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandraS Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 soompi....you're a piece of richard simmons...i won't believe any english news from last year because of your trashy behaviour over his case...using google translate for translating korean news is more reliable than your trashy sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandraS Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 soompi....you're a piece of richard simmons...i won't believe any english news from last year because of your trashy behaviour over his case...using google translate for translating korean news is more reliable than your trashy sites. now you will change the word ( richard simmons ) to richard simmons?! how coward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Banger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 soompi....you're a piece of richard simmons...i won't believe any english news from last year because of your trashy behaviour over his case...using google translate for translating korean news is more reliable than your trashy sites. now you will change the word ( richard simmons ) to richard simmons?! how coward!Soompi doesn't do that. IPS is the site that imposes the parameters for tasteful and PG commentary. Livefyre used to do that but they were taken off when Soompi left Crunchyroll. You probably saw the results of the parameters being lifted. I don't understand why you believe there is any bias here. They have the option of printing nothing about him but they do and it's all accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teleri Nyfain Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 29 minutes ago, SandraS said: 30 minutes ago, SandraS said: soompi....you're a piece of richard simmons...i won't believe any english news from last year because of your trashy behaviour over his case...using google translate for translating korean news is more reliable than your trashy sites. now you will change the word ( richard simmons ) to richard simmons?! how coward!Soompi doesn't do that. IPS is the site that imposes the parameters for tasteful and PG commentary. Livefyre used to do that but they were taken off when Soompi left Crunchyroll. You probably saw the results of the parameters being lifted. I don't understand why you believe there is any bias here. They have the option of printing nothing about him but they do and it's all accurate. I have to say - if Ming, who is Korean & also fluent in English, thinks the translation is accurate then that's fine. I prefer for the translated letter to just be presented for people to read rather than this excerpt w/comment/explanation format, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Banger Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 soompi....you're a piece of richard simmons...i won't believe any english news from last year because of your trashy behaviour over his case...using google translate for translating korean news is more reliable than your trashy sites. now you will change the word ( richard simmons ) to richard simmons?! how coward!Soompi doesn't do that. IPS is the site that imposes the parameters for tasteful and PG commentary. Livefyre used to do that but they were taken off when Soompi left Crunchyroll. You probably saw the results of the parameters being lifted. I don't understand why you believe there is any bias here. They have the option of printing nothing about him but they do and it's all accurate. I have to say - if Ming, who is Korean & also fluent in English, thinks the translation is accurate then that's fine. I prefer for the translated letter to just be presented for people to read rather than this excerpt w/comment/explanation format, however.Ah, I have a better understanding of why she is upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba89 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Fighting KHJ! U probably may have a crazy baby mama even thought we don't want that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SandraS Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 they deleted more than 20 comments right now people...they'll just leave the ones they want...what a shame for a news site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest msurigao_4bca Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Fighting KHJ! Whatever the outcome, keep fighting! Take your time and deal with it accordingly and positively. In the long run, come what may, you'll have the support of your fans. Love for you always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ming Banger Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 they deleted more than 20 comments right now people...they'll just leave the ones they want...what a shame for a news site. Sandra...they haven't deleted any comments. When you are notified of a reply or comment, Soompi now directs you to the forum site not the actual news site where ALL of the comments are. When you are notified of the reply I'm making to you, you'll just see a limited number of comments but if you hit "View full article" you can see the comments are all still there...and some new ones as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cochoyahoo27 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 i don't really follow the news, this is just based on the recent article about the baby. first i heard that he assaulted his ex, then he got sued. he said its not true, but there's an 'evidence'. then his ex said she's got pregnant and he willing to taking care of it. but later, his ex said she's got miscarriage when he's already on the army. then few statement to statement came across, then boom suddenly the miscarriage ex have a baby and of course his baby.i just wanna asked this is the same ex? or not? because the timeline is kinda weird and no offend it looks kinda witch hunting. i want follow the news but its kinda confusing, any one to explain? for some reason, i feel kinda bad for him. not his fans, but still he look so vulnerable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teleri Nyfain Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 OK - it's very confusing I'm sure. LAST year, this woman (Ms Choi) went to the police to file charges against KHJ - for beating her on 4 different occasions. She sent pictures & texts to a tabloid (Dispatch) but not to the police. She then told KHJ that she'd drop the charges if he apologized, which he did. Meanwhile he'd made a statement to the police saying he'd only gotten in one mutual fight w/her, and that he accidentally hurt her in another incident. The police sent THAT off to the prosecutors since he admitted it. He was fined in Jan for that rib incident - the prosecutor said it did not matter if he meant to hurt her or not.THEN it comes out that KHJ & Choi got together in Dec & she's pregnant (Feb 2015). She refused to go w/him or his mother to confirm this, there was iffy stuff over the ultra-sound, she released more private text messages to Dispatch that didn't prove anything. Daddy Kim got a good lawyer for his son and Choi shut up for a while, but then sued. KHJ's lawyer sued back. He also did fact checking. Turns out that Choi told KHJ last year that she was pregnant in the spring but the fight (where those unverified bruises came from) also caused a miscarriage. KHJ had PAID Choi half a million $$ in return for her dropping charges. Then she'd of course gone on record to say she did not get a settlement (nice) which violated the non-disclosure agreement (she wasn't supposed to say ANYTHING). Lawyer Lee got medical records from all the clinics she said she went to - turns out she was NOT pregnant 10 days before the fight & a couple weeks after - no mention of miscarriage. Also that she'd waited to go to the doctor for the rib injury for almost 3 weeks after she said it happened, plus had gone to 2 different clinics trying to get a 6-week injury certificate - at the first one she said she got the injury at a gym.Choi was upset & released MORE very private text messages that didn't prove anything. KHJ had gone into the SK Army for his MS meanwhile.Now she's saying she had this baby, didn't tell KHJ or his family for over a week, tried saying that he refused a paternity test (prompting that press conference & letter from him) and is herself refusing to complete a DNA test.Guess that about sums this mess up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoCheng Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 blow over soon, fighting KHJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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