[Taiwanese Drama 2015] To the Dearest Intruder 致，第三者

[Guest whitecherryblossom]

At this point I feel like Ji An SHOULD divorce her husband. No matter what she chooses, I think she should start her life again and her world should revolve around herself and her loved ones not around her husband. I would be super happy if the lawyer guy (Zhen Lun?) and her get together. Both Zhen lun and Jian were hurt by their respective loved ones, so I believe they should form a support system. No matter what, Ji an should pick herself up and become an independent woman who can take care of herself. 

It hurts that a beautiful friendship got broken over a guy. Although I would be happy if Jian and her husband get together but I wonder if that will be realistic since rarely any woman would want to be with a guy who cheated on her with her best friend. Thus, I think Jian deserves to be with a man who cherishes her and loves her wholeheartedly. I hope the story focuses on Jian's journey to become a strong person and find new love.

[UnniSarah]

At this point I feel like Ji An SHOULD divorce her husband. No matter what she chooses, I think she should start her life again and her world should revolve around herself and her loved ones not around her husband. I would be super happy if the lawyer guy (Zhen Lun?) and her get together. Both Zhen lun and Jian were hurt by their respective loved ones, so I believe they should form a support system. No matter what, Ji an should pick herself up and become an independent woman who can take care of herself. 

It hurts that a beautiful friendship got broken over a guy. Although I would be happy if Jian and her husband get together but I wonder if that will be realistic since rarely any woman would want to be with a guy who cheated on her with her best friend. Thus, I think Jian deserves to be with a man who cherishes her and loves her wholeheartedly. I hope the story focuses on Jian's journey to become a strong person and find new love.

       @whitecherryblossom   I too want Jia An to be more independent. Yes she should divorce him and start their relationship anew if they were to start over. If not she need to find someone new to with. At first i Jia An and Zhen Lun  but he is still hung up on  Shao Qing, She is on the verge of going insane right now that is where his  loyalty be.

 

Zhen Lun consider Shao Qing is an angel and hasn't done anything wrong. He knew about the affair and only think Yan R is in the wrong. Shao Q had an affair with a married man who was married to her BEST FRIEND. She has croosed to many lines. She is also a prdouct of adultrey and chose to follow her mom in the same foot steps.

[deeotherday]

A person without change in 10 years is impossible. People change. I only think SQ's reappearance after 10 years is needed just in the context of this story, of the kind of marriage life that JA was enduring (because I am also against affairs). JA has a blind love and no one let her know or confirm with her (because I think in these 10 years she should be able to sense there is something wrong with her relationship and YH already, but she just don't dare to ask or want to know the truth) that her marriage has a problem. However when the table turned around, YH started to develop feeling for JA, SQ is really going wild. Anyway, from what she did, I don't think she really care for her best friend as she said. 

It is also kind of nonsense seeing how Zhen Lun was forcing YH to keep his promise to divorce. Does he know what is the real good for SQ. Sigh...

Actually as some of you said, the writer is giving JA a chance to have her own life now. I totally support JA's decision to divorce YH. Their relationship will not work until YH know clearly what he wants and do something about it plus SQ, the third person need to let go once for all.

Oh... I can't wait for further ep. I can't really predict exactly how things go now.  

[Guest whitecherryblossom]

Just watched episode 10, and Shao Qing is literally going crazy. She feels insecure and imagines Jian taunting her all the time. I feel bad, that although she got what she wanted (Yan Hao) she still feels miserable. I guess the guilt is getting to her? I  loved how Jian took a stand and decided to be independent and apply for job. Not really sure if Jian will be working for Zhen lun in his office? I believe Zhen lun will develop personal feelings toward Jian soon. He even seemed affected when Jian held his hand to thank him. 

Its kind of ironic how Shao Qing now secretly sees Yan Hao meeting Jian and feels bad. Didnt she do the same thing to Jian, meet with Yan Hao and have an affair? I feel like Yan Hao is slowly developing feelings for Jian, but I am still not sure if I am on team Yan Hao and Jian or Lawyer Zhen and Jian. I just hope Yan Hao remembers all the little things Jian did for him in the past. She spent decades being by his side and she deserves some appreciation. 

I love Jian's relationship with yan hao's brother. I think they have the most stable and honest relationship. He loves her dearly like an older sister and always takes care of her.  For now, Jian should get a job, place to live and find her own place in society. I am super excited to see her journey and growth as a person.  

I also loved the part where she decided not to call any of her friends when she was in trouble. 

[UnniSarah]

                              @whitecherryblossom   Just finished watchign episode 10 and Lawyer Zhen was nice to Jia An. This is the first time he has soften around her. In my POV he seems cold and tooo loyal to Shao Quin. He doesn't even acknowledge that Shao Quin is in the wrong and that she needs to face her problem. He rather blame Yan Hao. Yan Hao was wrong to cheat on his wife but he did not start the affair. Shao Quin initiated it and now she can't handle the fact that Yah Hao maybe falling for Jia An. She thinks it isn't possible, my fear is thatif lawyer Zhen start to fall for Jia An, she might try to get in their way again and hurt  Jia An. That is why i don't want them together. 

[Dreamy Luna]

I was very hesitant about watching this drama... Dramas involving affairs are hard to watch (though I absolutely loved The Fierce Wife). To be honest, I fast-forwarded a lot of scenes. Every character annoyed me. I only started watching the whole episode starting from episode 9 when Jia An discovered the truth (Amber is good at crying!). I also don't know if I'm on team Yan Hao or Lawyer Zhen.

[Guest whitecherryblossom]

                              @whitecherryblossom   Just finished watchign episode 10 and Lawyer Zhen was nice to Jia An. This is the first time he has soften around her. In my POV he seems cold and tooo loyal to Shao Quin. He doesn't even acknowledge that Shao Quin is in the wrong and that she needs to face her problem. He rather blame Yan Hao. Yan Hao was wrong to cheat on his wife but he did not start the affair. Shao Quin initiated it and now she can't handle the fact that Yah Hao maybe falling for Jia An. She thinks it isn't possible, my fear is thatif lawyer Zhen start to fall for Jia An, she might try to get in their way again and hurt  Jia An. That is why i don't want them together. 

I agree that Lawyer Zhen is too calculating actually. I feel like he is even approaching Jian to keep Jian away from SQ's life. All in all, I feel like SQ's one mistake ruined three people's life, she should have been honest with Jian in their college days that she liked Yan Hao. I am also mad at Yan Hao that he married Jian fully knowing that he will never be able to love her. I want to believe that he was always in love with Jian since their childhood and college days and his love for her deepened throughout their marriage. Love is actually very ordinary, its hidden in the simple things. Maybe Yan Hao loved Jian all along and just never noticed?  I really really want him to remember everything Jian did for him throughout all these years. Its unfair if he forgets all she has done for him. 

As for Jian, I really hope she gets a good job and stands on her own WITHOUT the help of ANY man. She is not a toy to be played with. I am also afraid SQ might try to harm Jian in the future. Did you guys notice, how she was trying to "cook" the chicken in ep 10? woa gave me shivers. good acting from all the actors/actress. 

I think it would be super nice to see Zhen Lun taking Jian's side in the future not because he will start liking her but only because he would like to support the person who is in the right. In this case, Zhen Lun should reflect on his relationship with SQ and accept that what SQ is not epitome of perfection. Its actually super nice to see Yan Hao all conflicted, he deserves it. He should have cherished Jian when she was next to him. 

As for SQ, I actually feel bad for her but I think she deserves it. In the end she lost her best friend (Jian), will lose her love (Yan Hao) and another loyal friend (Zhen Lun). Can't there be another male character for Jian in this drama? Maybe towards the end, since her journey towards independence should be the main focus. 

[UnniSarah]

                              @whitecherryblossom   Just finished watchign episode 10 and Lawyer Zhen was nice to Jia An. This is the first time he has soften around her. In my POV he seems cold and tooo loyal to Shao Quin. He doesn't even acknowledge that Shao Quin is in the wrong and that she needs to face her problem. He rather blame Yan Hao. Yan Hao was wrong to cheat on his wife but he did not start the affair. Shao Quin initiated it and now she can't handle the fact that Yah Hao maybe falling for Jia An. She thinks it isn't possible, my fear is thatif lawyer Zhen start to fall for Jia An, she might try to get in their way again and hurt  Jia An. That is why i don't want them together. 

I agree that Lawyer Zhen is too calculating actually. I feel like he is even approaching Jian to keep Jian away from SQ's life. All in all, I feel like SQ's one mistake ruined three people's life, she should have been honest with Jian in their college days that she liked Yan Hao. I am also mad at Yan Hao that he married Jian fully knowing that he will never be able to love her. I want to believe that he was always in love with Jian since their childhood and college days and his love for her deepened throughout their marriage. Love is actually very ordinary, its hidden in the simple things. Maybe Yan Hao loved Jian all along and just never noticed?  I really really want him to remember everything Jian did for him throughout all these years. Its unfair if he forgets all she has done for him. 

As for Jian, I really hope she gets a good job and stands on her own WITHOUT the help of ANY man. She is not a toy to be played with. I am also afraid SQ might try to harm Jian in the future. Did you guys notice, how she was trying to "cook" the chicken in ep 10? woa gave me shivers. good acting from all the actors/actress. 

I think it would be super nice to see Zhen Lun taking Jian's side in the future not because he will start liking her but only because he would like to support the person who is in the right. In this case, Zhen Lun should reflect on his relationship with SQ and accept that what SQ is not epitome of perfection. Its actually super nice to see Yan Hao all conflicted, he deserves it. He should have cherished Jian when she was next to him. 

As for SQ, I actually feel bad for her but I think she deserves it. In the end she lost her best friend (Jian), will lose her love (Yan Hao) and another loyal friend (Zhen Lun). Can't there be another male character for Jian in this drama? Maybe towards the end, since her journey towards independence should be the main focus. 

Well said @whitecherryblossom. I too agree that Yan Hao was always in love with Jian An and never noticed it. It is because Jia An has never left his side until now. She has always been there for him and him as well. I don't feel bad for SQ because she has not admitted she was wrong for breaking up a friendship and marriage to the two people she cared most in the world. I will admit SQ does love JA an YH.  When the truth came out, JA told SQ that if she was told about their feelings she would have been sad but then they would all be happy now. They made a fool out of her because SQ didn't want to hurt her. SQ made all the decision without getting advice and caused alot of pain. Now she wants people to fell bad for her. WHat i dislike is that she is going bananas for the same thing her mom did. SQ thought what she did wasn't wrong because YH belong to her and only love her.  She was wrong to assume that after the truth came out about the affair everything will be ok and everyone wilI be happy. I believe when you make a mistake you must own up to it because that is the right thing to do. 

[deeotherday]

I feel like pride is also the reason behind SQ's actions and reactions to what is happening.

[Guest whitecherryblossom]

I feel like pride is also the reason behind SQ's actions and reactions to what is happening.

I absolutely agree! but I think this pride of hers is going to turn her insane soon. What is pride when it ruins lives of your loved ones to an extent that relationships are destroyed. SQ needs help, ASAP. I thought Jian was living in her own fantasy but I was super happy when she woke up and took action immediately. She confronted both SQ and Yan Hao. SQ on the other hand started out sane but cant seem to accept reality at this point and is becoming delusional with each passing episode. Woa, did you guys see the precap? Apparently Zhen Lun is hurt and Jian goes to visit him. 

[xiaojies87]

I have been following this drama since the beginning. Although I did skip a few episodes from the start, because I cringe so much at the cheating (can't stand it). 

I will get right into it, before I start rambling about nonsense. To be completely honest here, this drama makes me ramble so much.

1. Let's start from the start, since SQ likes to bring it up oh so much. The way it showed is JA is the mutual friend between the two. JA is well stupid or in another word too innocent and isn't aware of the surroundings. She was in College when the story starts, but she acts like a high schooler. Which leads to more questions about her childhood and her upbringing. SQ knows JA's feelings, and I supposed YH knows as well when SQ left for the States? They had what I would call a night together of some sort before she decides to leave and not be a third party. I refrained myself from calling it a one night stand, because she literally left right after?. The three main are cowards.

2. SQ blames it all on JA, because she didn't want JA to get hurt. She did it out of love for JA. Which I called BS. I don't know if you guys have ever been in JA's situation before. From the way I see it, is that she trusts SQ way too much. She depends on the two so much, and that is why she hurts from recent episodes. What she said from the recent episode actually makes sense. If they let her know before hand, of course she will be hurt for a few days. But that would be the end of it, she will know where the line is. What they did is actually selfish. The only reason why I think SQ is in the wrong is because remember that time when she was in the hospital with YH? The other lady was talking down to her, about her mom being the third party? I think that plays the part. She didn't want others to look down on her nor does she want bad reputation. Which leads to the fact that her reputation, and her pride is more so than her love for YH. The reason why I rambles on so much about this is because she isn't the third party at that point, but she makes a small problem bigger than it is. JA only have a huge crush on YH, it's not like they are together. She gave the excuse it was because she knows JA was head over heals with YH is another form of excuse for her coward behavior.(I can't get everything out of my mind about her character because ugh so mad). 

3. YH. Another coward of the three main characters. I don't blame him from the beginning, because he didn't actually lead JA on. The only thing is why did he accept her proposal? He has a smile when he accepts it, am I wrong? What the hell is wrong with this guy. I cannot wrap my head around it, why did he agrees? just because SQ told him to take good care of JA? You can't take good care of her while being her friend like how you used to be? Also, if he really wants to or he really love SQ like how they make it seems to be. Then he would have found a way to find her. Be it a few years, by then he already have a company of his own. He would be able to have the money to track her. It just makes no sense to me. They think JA is a child, when in fact these two are nowhere being an adult.

4. JA. A lot of viewers blame it on her, but honestly I think she is the most pitiful. I mean if you were to put in her situation, would you blame her? I think the cruel part of it all is that she is kept int he dark for so long. I hate being left not knowing anything at all. It's just the most painful feeling ever. The only fault that she has is that she didn't observe her surroundings more. She would've realized that she didn't have the love of YH. 

The more I watch this drama, the more I feel like it's just like real life. I don't know. These three characters I have seen in my life a lot. It's actually not uncommon. It's just making my blood boil every single time I see SQ and YH. How can you do that to a person that you love most and care for the most? I mean I know that love is important but dang. You don't have to steal your friend's husband to show that undying love. 

 

 

[thunderman1]

@xiaojies87, right on, girl friend.  

Both three are ridiculous cowards.. I started reading recaps instead because I see SQ as a whiny brat who casts the blame on her mother but she is like an exact copy of her. Everything already happened and it's too late to change back time. IF she had fix what was wrong at the beginning, there would be no drama hence the reason why she is seen as the intruder of this story. However, if  we put it in another way, YH could also be defined as the intruder because if he didn't come along, the friendship of JA and SQ would have thickened. BUT then again the intruder could also be JA because if she wasn't so child-like and did not harbor such a crush on YH, SQ and YH relationship would have blossomed. This whole story could be a bunch of IFs,and  BUTs after all. 

The teaser showed YH being shot.. I hoped he had died there to just kill the story.. Or they could have just extended the whole plot and made that the ending. for instance, who did YH choose in the end? If not, who did SQ choose and who did JA choose? there were so many paths that this story could have taken to end it for all. I would have liked an open ending but no the affair must go on. 

I do agree with you that this story is so relatable to an extent with its idiocy. 

[xiaojies87]

@thunderman1. Hmmm that is an interesting point. I mean I never understood why YH could be a third party. In my opinion, no matter however much I look at it.. SQ is always the third party. YH and JA are childhood friends, so in term of friendship, YH and JA are a pair for longer period of time. I mean the movie showed us about the past that they met in College. It's only a coincidence that they go to the same one right? I can see how the two girls can be a third party to each other. But then like I said, if JA given a choice (which the others didn't give her) she wouldn't be a third party. I believe in her moral's standard that much. YH was shot, that is why he lost his memories. Is that the thing you're referring to? I think the story we have right now is due to his memory lost. Hahha.

I also want to make another point. Everybody keep on saying how JA is being stupid, and that they pity SQ. Well SQ now gets what she want, BUT she's still not happy. I am seriously so pissed off that these people even defend SQ blindly. I am so freakin proud of JA, even though she is a bit slow still. At least she's over it, and she's admitting that she's wrong. That she will leave the other two happy. I hope that she will be more independent, and SQ will see just how wrong she is to look down on her best friend (with her so call love and care). I know a lot of people compare JA to the fierce wife, but to be completely honest in the Fierce Wife, it wasn't that dramatic. It was betrayal, yes, but not the complete insane betrayal. I feel like JA character will have the best development if the writer goes on that way it is. For me the Fierce wife, the wife is already smart or average to start with, so I didn't see that much change in her character.

Edited October 31, 2015 by xiaojies87

[thunderman1]

@thunderman1. Hmmm that is an interesting point. I mean I never understood why YH could be a third party. In my opinion, no matter however much I look at it.. SQ is always the third party. YH and JA are childhood friends, so in term of friendship, YH and JA are a pair for longer period of time. I mean the movie showed us about the past that they met in College. It's only a coincidence that they go to the same one right? I can see how the two girls can be a third party to each other. But then like I said, if JA given a choice (which the others didn't give her) she wouldn't be a third party. I believe in her moral's standard that much. YH was shot, that is why he lost his memories. Is that the thing you're referring to? I think the story we have right now is due to his memory lost. Hahha.

I also want to make another point. Everybody keep on saying how JA is being stupid, and that they pity SQ. Well SQ now gets what she want, BUT she's still not happy. I am seriously so pissed off that these people even defend SQ blindly. I am so freakin proud of JA, even though she is a bit slow still. At least she's over it, and she's admitting that she's wrong. That she will leave the other two happy. I hope that she will be more independent, and SQ will see just how wrong she is to look down on her best friend (with her so call love and care). I know a lot of people compare JA to the fierce wife, but to be completely honest in the Fierce Wife, it wasn't that dramatic. It was betrayal, yes, but not the complete insane betrayal. I feel like JA character will have the best development if the writer goes on that way it is. For me the Fierce wife, the wife is already smart or average to start with, so I didn't see that much change in her character.

Ohhh interesting. that would be cool if we had a dream within a dream. lol 

Are you still following/watching the drama? I am just reading recaps because I find both character pitiful and just feeding off of each other.. nothing will satisfy their desires. They killed off their friendship over the intruder [YH]. At least that's how I see it.

[xiaojies87]

@thunderman1. Bahhahah dude, I will be like WTF did I just watch?!? Hahha.

Hmmm I am still watching it, because well I don't really anticipating it as much as before you know what I mean? I just watch it whenever there is subbed for the episode which normally comes out on Thursday (Viki). It's not like the type of drama I'm waiting every single day for it to come out, so yeah it's there I'll watch it type of deal. I guess we have different opinions on that sort of things.

I am curious though, if you were in JA's shoes, what would you do? Would you do anything different?

This is like not even relevance to the page whatsoever, but I'm watching The Pursuit of Happiness right now. It's seems pretty good. Have you watch it before?

[thunderman1]

@thunderman1. Bahhahah dude, I will be like WTF did I just watch?!? Hahha.

Hmmm I am still watching it, because well I don't really anticipating it as much as before you know what I mean? I just watch it whenever there is subbed for the episode which normally comes out on Thursday (Viki). It's not like the type of drama I'm waiting every single day for it to come out, so yeah it's there I'll watch it type of deal. I guess we have different opinions on that sort of things.

I am curious though, if you were in JA's shoes, what would you do? Would you do anything different?

This is like not even relevance to the page whatsoever, but I'm watching The Pursuit of Happiness right now. It's seems pretty good. Have you watch it before?

I would have already left my so-called best friend and the guy...both are not worthy of my love. I wouldn't call it selfish because it deeply hurts you to be betrayed by both the person you loved. I can't connect to this since I have not been betrayed by my husband or any of my girl friends.. I think having a complete family makes it all worthwhile. I have two kids so I know it will be hard on them if something did happen, hopefully never in my lifetime.  

The Pursuit of Happiness? Is this T-drama? I feel like asian dramas are taking American movie titles. I watched the Pursuit of Happiness--American movie but other than that no. There's a really good chinese drama that is out right now base on the novel by Ding Mo--Love me if You Dare.  If you want better suggestions on Chinese dramas, inbox me. I"m considering dumping this one and moving on. I've been just following recaps as mentioned. I dislike dramas with affairs unless there was some real revenge.

[deeotherday]

I just realise that many just like me are also mad or wonder why did YH accept the proposal if he didn't love the girl. Really wonder WHY? haha... Uhm but the pursuit of happiness seems interesting to me, thank you for mentioning, thunderman1  I will check it out. and Aggie is also a second lead in this drama. 

[xiaojies87]

@thunderman1. I am in the process of watching the new episode right now, and it starts off with SQ with a trashbag. And guess what she did? she threw all of the kitchen stuff, sofa decorations, JA's shoes, wedding pictures, and she literally ripped up the wedding picture. It's like she's gone up to another level of crazy. Finger crossed, this episode is going to be a good one. I know a lot of people are feeling bad for her, but man.. I can't help but laugh at her insanity.

Back : Of course she went and look at all of YH's schedule, and follow him. After she realized that he has been hanging around JA. She goes crazy and acting like a jealous wife (Which she isn't). I'm still surprised what the old YH see in her. All I see in her is how thirsty she is for attention. Well in this case, just YH's attention. I would be laughing my butt off once she knows her sidekick is helping JA also. Man.. I bet she'll go nut crazy. I start to really like the sidekick with JA, there are just something pure aura around them. Anywho.. SQ kept on blaming JA for meeting with YH, for seeing him even if it's YH who's seeking for JA. I hope they don't drag this out though, cause it's getting pretty boring, only SQ being crazy.

It is a T-drama. Pretty short and sweet type of drama.

 

Edited November 1, 2015 by xiaojies87

[thunderman1]

You're right. She is a crazy lunatic makes me wonder where this drama is heading.. 

The intruder is definitely SQ now.. everything has turned up the way she wanted it but it also turns out YH loves his wife, JA.  

 

[deeotherday]

I just finished the ep. too and the ING also. haha I think this drama may have the most fun behind the scene, I like Amber's personality a lot. Really bravo to the awesome cast tho to their effort and the depth they give to their characters. i guess i like TTDI because it is not about fantasy love story. 

Wow among all I enjoy this ep. the most. So much emotion, so much pain, so much truthfulness are there and so much fun (with JA and JL) haha... their scene of counting money. Li family's situation is quite touching. I hope they can find a compromise solution. 

I don't think JA need to explain to SQ that her meetings with YH is coincidence. I don't like JA's run away  reaction when she see SQ, I prefer JA be more confident when confronting with SQ because there is no reason for being such.

Beside ZL's nonsense (or ridiculous act) of forcing YH with SQ, Mei Mei is another character that annoys me. First she knew the affair but still hiding it or brush it off when JA already sense something wrong. Then now she goes off on her own with her (not too smart) plan of reunite YH and JA. I think she is just causing trouble. haiz...

I think SQ is quite smart in her approach of making YH completely forget about JA by removing everything that related to JA around them including the wedding ring (It hurts me a bit when she took off the ring). But if YH truly love JA then physical things won't be such matter even their distance. Anyway, we can see obviously that YH and SQ's relationship is not going to work when "trust" is not there. Instead of saying that she is afraid of someday she will lose YH like JA did, she should have ask a more direct question such as "YH do you love me?". Sometimes, we just need to be a little brave to confront the truth. I think SQ kind of realized a bit that she is holding on to the past or she is living in her dream. A dream of a 10 years undying love. 

The dilemma is real, I think YH now is pretty miserable. i hope it wont drag long. hopefully SQ's jealousy and insanity should not be the focus of the drama.