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You guys overthinking about uncomfortable or awkward jihyo, remember what rm cast said, ji hyo mood turn bad when she has acting gigs. any everyone trying to be careful around her.

and it's not jk who make her uncomfortable, just jihyo personality like that.

 

I am one of earliest spartace shipper , i was there when rm eps 1 engsub released by ex-family outing team rss sub , later turn into rm sub. Earlier i'm happy to talk about them, but later i think fans start to bring this ship on wrong direction, directly posting about it in RM related sns. And funnily in the past i'm torn between wanting to see them dating and running man go on. I believe if they date openly rm will end. and if rm must go on, they must stay as colleague lol. nowadays, i'm just happy seeing them. i dont post spartace related post in sns afraid it would make them uncomfortable.

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14 minutes ago, Bonardo said:

I am one of earliest spartace shipper , i was there when rm eps 1 engsub released by ex-family outing team rss sub , later turn into rm sub. Earlier i'm happy to talk about them, but later i think fans start to bring this ship on wrong direction, directly posting about it in RM related sns. And funnily in the past i'm torn between wanting to see them dating and running man go on. I believe if they date openly rm will end. and if rm must go on, they must stay as colleague lol. nowadays, i'm just happy seeing them. i dont post spartace related post in sns afraid it would make them uncomfortable.

 

Since the beginning? Wow. That's impressive! What drew them to you back then?

 

I also dislike spartace fans bringing it onto RM related SNS. I also dislike spartace fans tagging the RM members in spartace-related posts. I don't mind it too much when it's positive, harmless things like "spartace fighting", but I don't like when shippers tell them to get married or insult other people they're in a love line with. Shipping can be fun if we're respectful of everyone. I like this forum because we're more removed from the RM members' social media. (Though I know we have some silent readers from IG.) 

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 

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10 minutes ago, linzer03 said:

 

Since the beginning? Wow. That's impressive! What drew them to you back then?

 

I also dislike spartace fans bringing it onto RM related SNS. I also dislike spartace fans tagging the RM members in spartace-related posts. I don't mind it too much when it's positive, harmless things like "spartace fighting", but I don't like when shippers tell them to get married or insult other people they're in a love line with. Shipping can be fun if we're respectful of everyone. I like this forum because we're more removed from the RM members' social media. (Though I know we have some silent readers from IG.) 

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 

 

Well i was fans of Family Outing at first, and shipper of kookri, then family outing ended. when watching family outing i also digging their x-man variety and watch it. So when new Variety come out , i'm just happy i know most of them and their friendship. that's running man. I think i start shipping them when song ji hyo revealed to be fans of turbo and she love dancing to turbo songs. then old family outing video cut about jihyo joking screaming "jong kook oppa ........ heyo" suppose to be faking jong kook oppa i love you lol. Then Monday couple happen, and spartace shipper cornered in this forum and facebook. many come out openly on sns after monday couple ended lol. before that any spartace shipper that post about spartace in public sns will get harassed. But when monday couple still exist we just stay and have fun here without making spartace realize we exist. later the rude one start to appear and make me embarassed. but seriously most spartace early shipper are very mature. 

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28 minutes ago, Bonardo said:

Then Monday couple happen, and spartace shipper cornered in this forum and facebook. many come out openly on sns after monday couple ended lol. before that any spartace shipper that post about spartace in public sns will get harassed. But when monday couple still exist we just stay and have fun here without making spartace realize we exist. later the rude one start to appear and make me embarassed. but seriously most spartace early shipper are very mature. 

 

I think the spartace ship got a number of immature MC shippers when MC came to an end, and then gained more fans when they became an official love line on the show. It happens. Unfortunately, we can't control everyone. In my opinion, the best thing to do is find a corner of the shipping fandom that you like and hang out there.

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Currently in a ship rut so putting comments in a spoiler.  Please give me some encouragement. :)

 

 

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Currently in a ship rut after watching the first episode of Dragon Brothers and some video snippets from the show.  It's one thing for close friends/family to help couples hide their relationship when it is brought up, it's another to actively talk about the person being single.  On one hand, I know it's still a variety show, so there's that.  On the other hand, the show seemed more like a reality show with friends talking without a script.  Sure there's Cha Tae Hyun who always jokes around, but then there's Jang Hyuk who seems like whatever he says is the truth (he makes his jokes obvious).  This is only based on the 1st episode and some video snippets of them mentioning Jihyo.  See my back and forth?  :blink:  This is a 2017 show though, and a lot of things could have happened since then.  But that's a ( - ) for the long relationship theory, I think.  And then because of that I went on a downward spiral and thought again that maybe the latest poem is a sincere message from JH, and I see more the moments that could be just moments of friends/people who care about each other but not necessarily in a relationship.  And then I thought what if Haha is just teasing them because they see the fans on social media, because I saw the video where he teased JK with HJY, which is obviously just a loveline for TV.  So maybe he just loves teasing and it's not based on the truth.  Ugh.  So, I tried to be positive and watched the videos with the great moments again.  I watched the video of JH on Knowing Brothers, where Hee Chul teased her.  When Hee Chul jokes about something, it always seems he knows something. So yay for that.  What a wild ride this is, hehehe!   

 

 

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Hi guys! A silent lurker here in this forum during this year but a SA fan for a long time. I'm actually more of a JK bias since the FO era and when the first season ended, I was sad. It was my happy pill during my college days. When Running Man started the same year, I was excited as my favorite duo, Jae Suk and Jong Kook were back. I was just mostly enjoying the show for the games, camaraderie and banters of the members. I fell in love with their characters and gradually got hooked with their personalities- in and out of the RM camera. I've been watching out for any news about their personal lives which includes, of course, their love lives. More importantly, I adored JK so much that I ship him with anyone he is comfortable with like Hyori and Ye Jin (FO days). I'm that kind of fan. I'm okay with anyone as long as he is happy. When JK's FO lovelines disappeared together with the show (T___T), I got hook with JK's first. With the continuous taunts and teasing with Eun Hye from FO to RM, I got curious and hungry for any JK-related love news. :ph34r:

 

In the beginning, I have seen the SA tandem as more of a power couple - not that I was a MC fan (I couldn't agree more with SukJin's description that it was more of a comedic loveline though for me Gary clearly had some real feelings for Ms. Mong), until I saw a fanmade video of SA while browsing through Youtube that made me think twice of their tandem as merely just a 'friendly' one. I think this was after the first 180+ episodes (I'm sorry guys for not initially giving any meaning to their casual skinship and glances). Then, that SA compilation hit me hard. It was that AHA-moment. Their subtle closeness is so different from how Ms. Mong is with the rest of the guys. It was waaay too comfortable, don't you agree? And that ICE PEPERO game (my favorite SA couple game), I kept replaying that part. My heart broke when Kookie broke that ice. ANDWAEEEEE. :blink: 

 

I'm so happy that this ship is still sailing. It's been fun reading from page 1 to page 1153 of this forum and I'll continue to do so. The way you guys, think and interpret makes my heart giddy especially when my SA switch gets turn off sometimes (ugh :(). As long as both are 'single', I'll hold on to that faith that SA is real. To all the deities out there, please let them be real. I don't like to pressure them on their social media and relentlessly tag them every time there is a SPARTACE MOMENT though I respect the others decision in doing so. I know they are aware of us, I just hope that they'll naturally fall in love (or probably already did- hah!) with or without the pressure of just being 'single', without the pressure of their age ticking so loudly in their ears. Tiny and Haha oppa, I'm just waiting for any slips on your IG lives and posts. :D I'm so excited for the next episode, PD-nims, please be kind to the SA Fans out here. 

 

Shout out to @Adora Dark for your posts, I really enjoy reading them, especially how concise your points are. :)

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5 minutes ago, kook_mong said:

Then, that SA compilation hit me hard. It was that AHA-moment. Their subtle closeness is so different from how Ms. Mong is with the rest of the guys. It was waaay too comfortable, don't you agree?

 

YES YES YES.  I mean, I was really just watching Running Man for entertainment.  But maaaaan it's hard not to notice the two, even way before 'official' or 'blatant' SA loveline was introduced.

 

7 minutes ago, kook_mong said:

Tiny and Haha oppa, I'm just waiting for any slips on your IG lives and posts. :D

 

Heehee, yeah!!!

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22 minutes ago, carambsk said:

 

YES YES YES.  I mean, I was really just watching Running Man for entertainment.  But maaaaan it's hard not to notice the two, even way before 'official' or 'blatant' SA loveline was introduced.

 

I like how the rest of the members eventually teased the two, it was so cute watching both of their reactions but I like better the subtle moments. :) 

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3 hours ago, carambsk said:

Currently in a ship rut so putting comments in a spoiler.  Please give me some encouragement. :)

 

 

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Currently in a ship rut after watching the first episode of Dragon Brothers and some video snippets from the show.  It's one thing for close friends/family to help couples hide their relationship when it is brought up, it's another to actively talk about the person being single.  On one hand, I know it's still a variety show, so there's that.  On the other hand, the show seemed more like a reality show with friends talking without a script.  Sure there's Cha Tae Hyun who always jokes around, but then there's Jang Hyuk who seems like whatever he says is the truth (he makes his jokes obvious).  This is only based on the 1st episode and some video snippets of them mentioning Jihyo.  See my back and forth?  :blink:  This is a 2017 show though, and a lot of things could have happened since then.  But that's a ( - ) for the long relationship theory, I think.  And then because of that I went on a downward spiral and thought again that maybe the latest poem is a sincere message from JH, and I see more the moments that could be just moments of friends/people who care about each other but not necessarily in a relationship.  And then I thought what if Haha is just teasing them because they see the fans on social media, because I saw the video where he teased JK with HJY, which is obviously just a loveline for TV.  So maybe he just loves teasing and it's not based on the truth.  Ugh.  So, I tried to be positive and watched the videos with the great moments again.  I watched the video of JH on Knowing Brothers, where Hee Chul teased her.  When Hee Chul jokes about something, it always seems he knows something. So yay for that.  What a wild ride this is, hehehe!   

 

 

dunno, but for me, just because they're really close, that doesn't mean they always hang around regularly.

it's really hard to catch up with your friends if all of them were very busy with their works.

and i always believe in saying "if you don't know, you don't have to lie if someone ask you".

the bros are really close, but i think there's still something that they hold for themself and not shared it to the others.

in kjk case, that would be his relationship with sjh.

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10 hours ago, carambsk said:

Currently in a ship rut so putting comments in a spoiler.  Please give me some encouragement. :)

 

 

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Currently in a ship rut after watching the first episode of Dragon Brothers and some video snippets from the show.  It's one thing for close friends/family to help couples hide their relationship when it is brought up, it's another to actively talk about the person being single.  On one hand, I know it's still a variety show, so there's that.  On the other hand, the show seemed more like a reality show with friends talking without a script.  Sure there's Cha Tae Hyun who always jokes around, but then there's Jang Hyuk who seems like whatever he says is the truth (he makes his jokes obvious).  This is only based on the 1st episode and some video snippets of them mentioning Jihyo.  See my back and forth?  :blink:  This is a 2017 show though, and a lot of things could have happened since then.  But that's a ( - ) for the long relationship theory, I think.  And then because of that I went on a downward spiral and thought again that maybe the latest poem is a sincere message from JH, and I see more the moments that could be just moments of friends/people who care about each other but not necessarily in a relationship.  And then I thought what if Haha is just teasing them because they see the fans on social media, because I saw the video where he teased JK with HJY, which is obviously just a loveline for TV.  So maybe he just loves teasing and it's not based on the truth.  Ugh.  So, I tried to be positive and watched the videos with the great moments again.  I watched the video of JH on Knowing Brothers, where Hee Chul teased her.  When Hee Chul jokes about something, it always seems he knows something. So yay for that.  What a wild ride this is, hehehe!   

 

 

 

I wouldn’t be too concerned about Dragons Bros and what it may or may not have revealed about SA. I like to keep things in context. IIRC, leading up to the airing of this show, shipper expectations were high since we got some good pics/vids about SA. It’s been a long time so I don’t remember exactly what those were, but many shippers expected good news. Then, either while this show aired or shortly after (again, it’s been a long time), we learned that KJK had joined My Ugly Duckling. That meant that any good news about SA were shelved due to the format of MUD. Looking at this within the framework of Dragon Bros, if they knew KJK’s work plans, they would have done their best to not reveal too much about SA. They may even have tried to misdirect, especially CTH since everyone looked to him for clues re: KJK’s love life. Toward the end of the series, his friends teased him about girls visiting him once he moved out, with HKM hilariously using the excuse of those girls wanting to eat ramen with KJK (wink, wink, LOL). IMO, this was a clear set up for KJK’s upcoming participation on MUD. While the bros were on a trip to make lasting memories, they still had jobs to do, which on a personal level meant supporting each other’s projects. 

 

7 hours ago, Adines Nugraha said:

the bros are really close, but i think there's still something that they hold for themself and not shared it to the others.

in kjk case, that would be his relationship with sjh.

 

I agree.

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I feel better, thanks for this. Context is always important, yes!  Glad that I can get that from the people who have been with Spartace for a long time. :)

 

On a different note, I am looking for a photo of Jihyo wearing black shorts with a number on the side.  It seems that it's JK's shorts, based on another photo of him wearing it?  But I didn't save it!  I hope someone can point me to the right direction.  I am reminded of it because I am now watching 2016 RM episodes.  And in Ep 310 she is wearing a big pair of black Nike shorts hehehe.

 

 

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The skinship in the first 30 minutes or so is just RIDICULOUS.  It was so natural.  The way he held her was just so familiar.  And he held her hand, her wrist, her arm, his arm was around her at some point... everything was natural.  It wasn't the same vibe at all with SJ, and with other members in other episodes, even KS whom she cares for from time to time. 

 

 

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I CAN'T BELIEVE I ACTUALLY FOUND A MOMENT THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN IN ANY YT OR IG VIDEO (THAT I'VE WATCHED) YET.  And I've watched a lot!  A lot of those videos have the same moments.  But I found a moment in this episode (19:39) where she sat down behind him and stretched/massaged his back!  (KS was also doing it to HH.)  Again we look at all of these things collectively to get the big picture.

 

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Welcome @kook_mong ! Hopefully more Spartace fans will follow your example and leap from longtime lurkers to active posters. It's always nice exchanging opinions and seeing the community keep going strong :)

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@carambsk I had to take my own screenshots and place them side by side for comparison, because a quick search online turned out fruitless. Episodes 212 and 213 respectively.

Also, I am not sure which words of Jang Hyuk made you slightly doubtful, could you elaborate? If anything, the mention of SJH finding him asleep outside of his hotel room at the 2013 MAMA awards, and subsequently telling KJK, sort of correlates with what Haha teasingly "revealed" in Big Picture about her also being drunk , mixing up the hotel rooms and ending up at KJK's during the same awards. Even if this is not what exactly happened, it's still interesting how the stories fall in line and we are clued in about their staying on the same floor, enjoying their booze at the after-party and possibly having some late night encounters. Perhaps the English subtitles are misleading, but in the Dragon Brothers episode when KJK says what SJH told him, present tense is used "Hyuk is sleeping in front of the room", which hints at SJH indeed meeting/being with KJK on the way to her room (or around the corridors anyway). Again, this could just be the translation of the caption and Haha might have been mostly joking, but all these references to the specific Awards do raise suspicions, especially if we combine them with how close Spartace looked throughout their presentation. At the same time, Hyuk mentioning he hasn't met Ji Hyo before is either another subtitle-induced deception (whereas he meant he didn't meet her that night, which he wouldn't remember anyway if he had passed out) or a flat lie. Regardless, I'd never expect any of them to deviate from KJK's firm claims of bachelorhood and provide us with Spartace evidence. Exactly because the show was marketed as a long overdue vacation with candid moments of bromance, a big slip-up there would hold considerable weight compared to Haha's hints during comedy segments. Not to mention anything too risky to air has been obviously edited out.

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@Adora Dark Yay!  Thank you for the image.  Yeah, I couldn't find it and didn't know where to start.  This is super appreciated!  I've seen her wear a couple of other similar black shorts in the past few episodes I've watched (mid 2016), but he hasn't worn them I think.  With the ones you posted - my gosh they sucked at hiding things then, huh? :P

 

As for Dragon Bros, it was just a casual conversation and when he mentioned him being single, it really didn't sound like it was part of a script.  But yeah it was just episode 1, I didn't know the context at that time (i.e. he wasn't part of MUD yet, SA interest was high at that time, etc.)  The drunk anecdote with Jihyo didn't bother me when I watched the video because I watched it after watching the Haha comment, so I saw it more as a confirmation of Haha's story.  And since it was 2013, it was okay that he hadn't met her yet.

 

Speaking of Haha, I am reminded that I really really love the whole Optimus Prime story arc of SA.  Hehehe! :wub:

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@Adora Dark @carambsk 

Wanted to jump into discussing that Dragon Bros episode conversation because I wish I knew enough Korean to see what the subtitles might have missed. I found it really weird when Jang Hyuk said he never met SJH before because they were on the same team when he guested on Running Man back around episode 40-something and he went with KJK and LKS to SJH's movie premiere back in 2012-2013. I figured the subtitles were incorrect and maybe he actually said that he didn't see her at all that night. IIRC I also found it weird that he was the only one referring to SJH as "Jihyo-ssi" while everyone else refers to her in a more informal tone. It reminded me of when KJK's hoobaes are asking him about HJY and SJH in an episode of MUD and they use "ssi" when referring to HJY but "noona" when referring to SJH which implies they are close with SJH or at least have met her before and feel comfortable calling her "noona."  

 

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@winnerslast Ooooohhh so Jang Hyuk could really have been covering up something because it was a lie.  Oooopsie.  That's huge!  Ok, ok, this definitely supports what the others have posted here.

 

And this newbie has a key takeaway from this whole convo - translations are not always exact and there are some little things that are sometimes missed, so the meanings of conversations could be a bit different from what we are reading in english.  

 

 

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You know what I'm planning to do next - watch some MC compilation videos.  I feel that it will strongly reinforce the fact that what SA has is different from the other members.  (Is this a bad or good idea for me? :sweatingbullets: Hehehe!)

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Yes, exactly, he was in the premiere of "Code Name: Jackal", and by the time of DB, he had already appeared 3 times on RM, twice as a guest (44-45) and once briefly during ep 42 because he was filming in the same location as RM. He even said he saw the rest members upstairs. So I think it's a matter of getting lost in translation here, because lying would be such a stretch, it would create more suspicions than actually covering anything.
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First SA scenes from today's episode:
 

 

 

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Ep 472

 

15:72 - When KJK says the members are acting up now that they're in Anyang, SJH says, "Just like Anyang Hothead". (KJK's nickname)

15:44 - KJK teases her, aksing if she works at a laundromat, and then he compliments her, saying she's strong. YJS helps her pull the slingshot, but KJK talks her through it which he didn't for anyone else.

22:09 - When KJK talks about the mother of his high school girlfriend's restaurant, they show a shot of SJH laughing.

22:22 - SJH starts to mention a bus station, but we never get to hear why she's suggesting that as HH keeps talking. But just from this segment, HH and SJH are the only two that suggest specific places in Anyang for KJK (because they know KJK best of the people there). JSJ suggests the more obvious/generic choice of a school. Edit: Someone told me that, on MUD, KJK told a story about a girl on a bus that he had a crush on, and SJH was likely referring to that. So either she watched the MUD episode or KJK told her the story in private.

26:27 - When KJK gets annoyed when JSM gets scissors wrong, SJH pushes his back.

28:18 - SJH puts her hand on his shoulder when he's confused about the game

48:30 - SJH might have been smiling while KJK was talking about his maybe-date under the cherry blossoms. It's hard to tell because the camera angle perfectly positions her face out of view lol.

49:29 - SJH asks him if he did b-boy dancing. And when he says what D.L. Boys stand for, she kind of gives a little smile that she seems to be holding back on for a moment. There's no reason for her to hide a smile, but for some reason she does. It's interesting.

At the end, KJK splits the money with SJH and HH (the two people who remained loyal the entire time).

 

This was actually a really good ep. The chase at the end was exciting. And I'm super happy they gave KJK a proper special! Now I just want to see SJH as the spy again or in another special. It's been a long time.

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3 hours ago, linzer03 said:

Ep 472

 

15:72 - When KJK says the members are acting up now that they're in Anyang, SJH says, "Just like Anyang Hothead". (KJK's nickname)

15:44 - KJK teases her, aksing if she works at a laundromat, and then he compliments her, saying she's strong. YJS helps her pull the slingshot, but KJK talks her through it which he didn't for anyone else.

22:09 - When KJK talks about the mother of his high school girlfriend's restaurant, they show a shot of SJH laughing.

22:22 - SJH starts to mention a bus station, but we never get to hear why she's suggesting that as HH keeps talking. But just from this segment, HH and SJH are the only two that suggest specific places in Anyang for KJK (because they know KJK best of the people there). JSJ suggests the more obvious/generic choice of a school. Edit: Someone told me that, on MUD, KJK told a story about a girl on a bus that he had a crush on, and SJH was likely referring to that. So either she watched the MUD episode or KJK told her the story in private.

26:27 - When KJK gets annoyed when JSM gets scissors wrong, SJH pushes his back.

28:18 - SJH puts her hand on his shoulder when he's confused about the game

48:30 - SJH might have been smiling while KJK was talking about his maybe-date under the cherry blossoms. It's hard to tell because the camera angle perfectly positions her face out of view lol.

49:29 - SJH asks him if he did b-boy dancing. And when he says what D.L. Boys stand for, she kind of gives a little smile that she seems to be holding back on for a moment. There's no reason for her to hide a smile, but for some reason she does. It's interesting.

At the end, KJK splits the money with SJH and HH (the two people who remained loyal the entire time).

 

This was actually a really good ep. The chase at the end was exciting. And I'm super happy they gave KJK a proper special! Now I just want to see SJH as the spy again or in another special. It's been a long time.

You are right to say, that episode 472 is a very good episode, I really like the concept (reminds me of old episodes of RM)

 

in episode 472 I see SJH is more active unlike previous episodes, we can also hear the funny sound of SJH when he pulls a slingshot.

 

as long as KJK tells about KJK's past in anyang SJH always listens and sometimes SJH laughs or smiles (I'm sure there are still many more KJK interactions with SJH outside the camera) 

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