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In this video by spartace_matchmade, does anyone notice how jk hyung seems to be looking towards jihyo noona when haha hyung said "those who are in love should go" and seems like somin noona accidentally blurted out "shouldn't it be jihyo unnie and jong kook oppa?" (?)

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Don't fall for publicity stunts. Both the show & the sites that will reproduce its content will do anything to create more buzz and romanticize even a casual conversation between friends/colleagues. Also, the people involved don't just blurt out questionable invitations and "jokes" without restraint, they knowingly do it because they expect fans to question them. Even the fact JSM got a call was pre-arranged, as it always is in these edited entertainment shows, except if anyone seriously believes all these busy celebrities are just randomly called out of the blue and set up in any kind of situation, including romance with people they hardly know. They wouldn't plan out this little skit without knowing whether she was available to respond, people joining such shows - via physical presence, phone, web call etc. - are all informed. And that doesn't go only for JSM, I believe for example the call to SJH back during Big Picture LIVE was also pre-arranged to an extent, so it isn't my bias clouding my reasoning right now.

About KJK, first of all his denying anything tells me very little, cause, per his admission, he would deny any romantic involvement regardless if real or not. What's important is the way he (and others, like Haha here) goes about it each time and whether  enough evidence with the female in question have been found outside of the camera focus, in a BTS environment, in hints unintentionally given by close friends and family etc. There's no such case here.  Secondly and more importantly, everyone and their mother know how private KJK is and has been like this for over two decades. Therefore, it is absolutely naive to think that his significant other, no matter who that might be, would so carelessly drop hints and expose him over a phone call, while various people would also be listening and while everything would be taking place during the shooting of a match-making segment for a TV show. If that was the case, he would have been caught red handed ages ago.

If the shipdom has to really implicate JSM, I suggest focusing on that possible tongue slip during the bus drive and her immediate mouth covering that fellow fans brought to our attention. Can anyone who knows Korean confirm that she is mentioning KJK's name followed by "oppa" and consequently the translation is wrong? Because I too hear his name, but that could as well happen due to the language barrier and my being suggestable after reading others' impressions.

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20 minutes ago, spartaceluv98 said:

Soompi has always highlighted jong kook hyung and jihyo as family and always uses the word 'jokingly' whenever something happens with SA, but for jong kook hyung and other women, soompi is all so supportive 

 

I wrote my comment before noting KJK and HH’s answers, so thanks. Speaking of “jokes,” the moment Soompi starts treating SA like they do KJK and all his other possible partners will be the day I worry. Until that happens, I appreciate that they follow SA’s lead and ignore the obvious. :) 

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26 minutes ago, Adora Dark said:

Don't fall for publicity stunts. Both the show & the sites that will reproduce its content will do anything to create more buzz and romanticize even a casual conversation between friends/colleagues. Also, the people involved don't just blurt out questionable invitations and "jokes" without restraint, they knowingly do it because they expect fans to question them. Even the fact JSM got a call was pre-arranged, as it always is in these edited entertainment shows, except if anyone seriously believes all these busy celebrities are just randomly called out of the blue and set up in any kind of situation, including romance with people they hardly know. They wouldn't plan out this little skit without knowing whether she was available to respond, people joining such shows - via physical presence, phone, web call etc. - are all informed. And that doesn't go only for JSM, I believe for example the call to SJH back during Big Picture LIVE was also pre-arranged to an extent, so it isn't my bias clouding my reasoning right now.

About KJK, first of all his denying anything tells me very little, cause, per his admission, he would deny any romantic involvement regardless if real or not. What's important is the way he (and others, like Haha here) goes about it each time and whether  enough evidence with the female in question have been found outside of the camera focus, in a BTS environment, in hints unintentionally given by close friends and family etc. There's no such case here.  Secondly and more importantly, everyone and their mother know how private KJK is and has been like this for over two decades. Therefore, it is absolutely naive to think that his significant other, no matter who that might be, would so carelessly drop hints and expose him over a phone call, while various people would also be listening and while everything would be taking place during the shooting of a match-making segment for a TV show. If that was the case, he would have been caught red handed ages ago.

If the shipdom has to really implicate JSM, I suggest focusing on that possible tongue slip during the bus drive and her immediate mouth covering that fellow fans brought to our attention. Can anyone who knows Korean confirm that she is mentioning KJK's name followed by "oppa" and consequently the translation is wrong? Because I too hear his name, but that could as well happen due to the language barrier and my being suggestable after reading others' impressions.

I too hear somin noona say "jihyo unnie and jong kook oppa" but i guess people got confused by the subs which said "isn't it him and jihyo?" 

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I was ask to my friends who is South Korea citizen & I ask to my friends more than 1 people.

 

And yes, it's confirmed, JSM said out of nowhere KJK & SJH but her sound is distract between others members at that time & yes, eng subt is wrong.

 

First i watched this scene i never ever noticed it until spartace_matchmade post it on IG but i still doubt, so i ask her directly private message on IG, after that i ask my friends.

 

And I remember about this scene in RM 385 when KJK defends SJH's idea out of nowhere in 2018.

 

KJK & SJH have same reactions when members announce out of nowhere are they dating ? or like haha said in this eps also.

 

You can look their eyes esp SJH's eyes is shake" .

 

I can't share the video because spartace fans base is private account (mylovespartace).

 

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Regarding in MUD that i heard in instagram. I love the FACT that Haha cleared the rumor that JSM and KJK are close and theres nothing between them which is he never did that to SJH and KJK never in the history that he denied them as a couple he always support them because he knows KJK he knows how KJK when inlove to the person. Although so many times that KJK always said that SJH is a family but i know in his action that he likes SJH and also SJH likes KJK but both of them are not expressive and thats very hard sooo hard :D. But im happy about the news atleast we know that KJK and SJH has a chance to be together till the end.

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I need to ask something regarding the bus scene, is there a difference between saying that two people are in love , as the subtitles read, and two people are in a love line, as they're apparently saying? Or can they use the two sentences interchangeably? Because in my head there is a difference, I thought the term love line had to do with on screen romances regardless of their actual status, but I am not Korean. I'm asking in case JSM is suggesting that the two people in a love line are KJK and SJH (instead of her and JSJ) and her covering of the mouth is due to JSJ unfastening his seatbelt (which would lead to JSJ's accepting the implication he is in a love line with her). To clarify, this doesn't affect the romantic nature of Spartace, I'm just trying to understand from what perspective JSM asked about Spartace, the show's or in general.

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the whole "ok, buddy" scene is hillarious :D

i loved it when yjs, jsj and kjk have the same thought about a topic.

and i found it quite interesting that when yjs asked the other members to raise their hands if they thought "ok, buddy" is not the correct answer, only sjh didn't raised her hand.

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I thought it was sweet when YJS and Haha were trying to throw Jihyo off during the quiz game, Sechan and JK said "let her be." and "let her answer."

 

Also, has it been confirmed that Haha says "in love" and not loveline? I could've sworn the first time I watched it live I heard him say "shouldn't those in a loveline go?". Of course that doesn't change the fact that Somin instantly said Jongkook and Jihyo:wub:

 

I think this also proves how good Jihyo is at playing off these types of moments. I'm pretty sure you can see Jongkook glance over at Jihyo for a second after Haha says that but Jihyo remains looking forward, which in my opinion makes it even more obvious. lol

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I thought there was no doubt Haha says love line and not "in love", since love line is an English phrase, at least those of us who don't know Korean, can make that one out clearly. Chul Min repeats right after "love line?". I even saw people, who apparently speak Korean, transcribing the dialogue on IG and they used the words "love line". This is why I asked - in case anyone more accustomed to Korean TV than I am knew -  whether love line  strictly refers to an on screen romance or it can be used interchangeably with "in love" as a general term.

 

I think there's a difference, it just isn't related to Spartace per se, but to JSM's perspective when referring to Spartace. She might have actually meant that if it's the show's lovelines they were talking about , Spartace should qualify more than her and JSJ, considering that until a couple of months ago Spartace was under a romantic spotlight on screen. If this scene had happened back in February, we would have probably added JSM's question to the long list of teasing remarks coming from the RM members. It draws additional attention now because it comes during an apparent pause of the supposed love line, while Spartace are reversed to their usual intimate interaction in the sidelines. Also the fact that her covering her mouth doesn't come right after she blurts out Spartace names, instead there's a 2 seconds interval, means that this gesture might have indeed been a reaction to the members teasing JSJ about a loveline with her. It ties up well with how casually she asks about Spartace, she does it so naturally because SA being the show's couple is the expected answer. So I have my doubts she was attempting to cover a tongue slip.

 

Obviously, this interpretation doesn't affect Spartace's status as a real couple, I just feel the need to emphasize this in case anyone reads my post and jumps to the illogical conclusion that if JSM had the SA loveline in mind, then SA are a fake couple. SA romance on and off screen aren't mutually exclusive, over the years there has been an abundance of evidence to support the latter and as for the former, the PDs would want to exploit it regardless.

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I just finished watching MUD the latest eps & I'm so touched so much about what KJK think & what KJK said.

 

This is the point what I mean :

 

1. When KJK look Byul, KJK still said to her : you look prettier although during due date for giving birth.

2. KJK suggest to HH to stop drunk because Byul is pregnant & will giving birth & it must be tired for her.

KJK continues : how about your health ? ask to HH & Byul agree what KJK said.

3. KJK : what if in dangerous moments, who is your priority ? Wife / children ?

After they answer it, Byul ask : how about you ?

KJK : Honestly, even when I have a children, I'm going to tell them their mom comes first. That's how I'm going to do it.

I'm just saying this because it's true.

I was taught to thank my mom on my birthday since I was little, my father always taught me like that.

 

Since I'm SA Shippers & since I write this in this SA forum soompi, ofc my wish & my mind directly what if SA truly will getting married soon, I can imagine KJK will always said SJH is pretty even she will fat because pregnant, we all know, KJK always said SJH is pretty since earlier eps even when SJH isn't in a good position ; yes, SJH not worried about KJK's life & KJK's healty, we all know how healty he's.

 

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I just finished watching the latest MUD and encourage all of you to watch it, not necessarily for KJM’s “accusation,” but for the cute bickering between KJK and KJM plus a glimpse into HH and Byul’s wonderful relationship. As for the “accusation,” IMO there’s no there, there. JSM did ask about KJK’s plans and tell him she’ll call him later, but that’s no different than what two (presumably) good friends would say to each other. The difference here is ofc that JSM’s a girl and KJK’s a very eligible “bachelor,” hence the clickbait article. Despite KJM’s words, KJK didn’t seem bothered by them, at all. After he ended the call with JSM, he said no twice, HH said KJK and JSM were just close, IIRC there was even a caption that said not to misunderstand. There’s no comparison between KJK’s reaction here vs on BP to HH spilling the beans about him and SJH at MAMA or HH calling SJH “Mrs. Kim.” And, I agree with @Adora Dark that no way would KJK’s real GF casually slip up. Given who we’re talking about, KJK would do everything possible to publicly stay away from his GF, she’ll do the same with him, both would even sometimes pretend they don’t like each other, not attend each other’s events,** act extremely reluctant whenever they’re pushed together, and would generally give shippers heartburn. Occasionally, they’ll unintentionally slip up and give us hints way off in the distance, but most of the time, nada. KJK offering his “GF” to another man, and the “GF” publicly telling him she’ll call him later? Only if pigs fly, and KJK’s not a crazy jealous possessive guy with nothing to hide. Flying pigs are always a possibility, but KJK sharing his “GF” with another man while being an open book is not. JSM certainly seems like a happy-go-lucky sort of person with nothing to hide, but that’s not true of KJK and SJH. One last thing: I’ve consistently watched MUD, and the staff has suggested at least one other LL for him since 2018, but they’ve backed off. Since then, there’s literally been no peep of him being with someone, even jokingly. This latest “attempt” with JSM was a non-starter except in some people’s imagination. KJK’s segment ended with a teaser about KJM and JSM, not KJK and JSM. Given MUD’s (and SBS’) obsession with KJK as their LL ratings king, this total disregard of possibilities between him and JSM tells me everything I need to know. At the very most, KJK’s trying (one more time) to friend-zone JSM, but this time on a show more popular than RM. In case I’m not being clear, let me put it this way: he was so desperate to romantically distance himself from her that he suggested his buddy date her! If shippers are still concerned, let me ask this: if no one took KJM seriously, why should we? Happy shipping, y’all. :) 

 

**Except for the upcoming Pohang festival, but SA attending the same event is rare enough that IMO it doesn’t detract from my reasoning.

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On 6/24/2019 at 5:50 AM, Regita M. P said:

SA Moments RM Eps 457

 

- Opening :

1. LOL . Recently I saw SJH wearing short pants --> in RM this is the 2nd time & outside RM, when SJH atttend in KBEE at Thailand 2019.

2. HH, YJS, & KJK talking about JSM are proves KJK & JSM nothing happened (maybe some sa shippers still doubt about this, you all know we all always believed what YJS said & we all know HH is SA shippers).

3. KJK wearing a fancy clothes & another member noticed about it.

--> IMO : did he look like SJH now who is wearing fancy also in this eps. LOL.

4. SJH laugh so hard hearing KJK when KJK talk about KJK & Paul Pogba.

 

- Bus :

1. SJH & HH sitting side by side it's seems what KJK want like KJK drawing SJH also side by side with HH.

2. SJH laugh so hard when hearing JSJ said KJK now crafty.

 

- Games 1 :

1. LOL . I love SA moments even it's just coincidential. Sitting : SJH, female guest, female guest, KJK.

2. 00:21:44 - 00:21:47 ; SJH is mong. KJK laugh so hard. SJH have a red face.

3. After that minutes in number 2, that KJK YSC scene. LOL. YSC have a wrong shoot, he shoot the water gun to KJK short pants (to his vital LOL) & make all of people laugh incl. SJH laugh so hard. SJH : Just wet all around it. Wet all around it.

4. SJH amazed how KJK extinguish the candle from his mouth with a full water.

--> IMO : yes, she always amazed what KJK did it from early eps & want to pair with a man as strong as KJK .

5. When SJH & LKS turns the games & then lost. KJK : SJH should do it.

IMO --> as we all know they know so well toward each other even in a small things like that.

6. SJH lost the games again, KJK : SJH died while trying to live. SJH : Right. I died while trying to live.

IMO --> LOL. Always copying each other & always hearing each other.

7. It's funny when SJH realised every time she with LKS she will lost everything.

--> IMO : Ofc SJH realised also, every time she with KJK, she will wins for everything.

 

- Games 2 :

1. PD : What do say to seduce someone ?

KJK : Have my child.

SJH laugh so hard hearing KJK's answer & KJK slighty looking at SJH directly in 00:45:27 - 00:45:28

2. SJH & HH standing in the same time, so both of them lost. SA sitting side by side & seems HH let them it.

3. PD : What do you want to choose as the family motto ?

KJK who is have a lost in this round games answer to himself : Let's be happy.

--> IMO : yes that's a truly KJK's answer from his heart I bet.

4. 00:53:29 : SA mirroring each other.

5. 00:53:41 : SA sitting side by side in this round in this games.

6. 00:54:08 : SA mirroring each other.

7. 00:55:02 - 00:55:03 : KJK & SJH sitting face to face (opposite).

 



just add @Regita M. P
in minute :22:36 SJH try shoot water to KJK pants.

in minute 1:02:16
after haha talk "those who are in love sholud go"
look stand body posture SJH it seems nervous about its..
LKS ,YSJ also seems like want cut it....

Edited by Mohamad Fitri
add 1:02:16
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@mn0096 totally agree with you. Also, isn't it totally off that a 'real gf' would talk so casually about her plans to call her 'bf' in a show that is watched by many and has a rather steady viewership rating? And i have said this before, jk hyung is a very loyal, very loving guy and he himself said in the recent MUD ep that he would put his wife as priority no matter what the circumstance is. So from these characteristics, we can totally gauge what kind of a man jk hyung is. A man who would love his woman devotedly. So would a man like this so happily matchmake his 'gf' with another man?? I don't think jk hyung is the kind of man who would do such things, even for the sake of a show. That would be so insulting to his 'gf' to have her own 'bf' matchmake her with another man. Just something for some (not anyone from this forum of course)  to ponder about ( more towards those trolls/ anti sa leaving unneccesary comments in SA igs)

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Looks like they filmed their dance practice today. It hurts me seeing Jihyo holding her back and Kwang soo so sweaty. I really hate the PD for picking such a hard dance knowing they would struggle. Especially knowing they all suffer from back injuries.:(

 

 

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I love this SA moment from the most recent ep:

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzDn5qGhqBh/?igshid=o2bm7f6xbzk5

 

The question was "what to you say to seduce someone"

And jk hyung's answer was "have my child" which made everyone including jihyo noona to laugh. And you can see in the moment above, jk hyung looked towards jihyo noona's direction after he gave that answer and when everyone laughed. 

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Quick Fact about RM FM :

 

Did you know this is make me surprised, RM have a plan about fan meet in Indonesia since 2 years ago. (I'm join that group & the sponsored from Indonesia knew that plan since 2 years ago).

 

It might be related about KJK speech in this year on January about marriage life .

 

KJK : this year maybe difficult to get married. (refer to RM plan & regardless SJH's side what if SA truly dating in real life).

 

It might be wrong it might be true.

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8 hours ago, spartaceluv98 said:

The question was "what to you say to seduce someone"

And jk hyung's answer was "have my child" which made everyone including jihyo noona to laugh.

 

LOL. KJK’s lucky that he’s a popular, rich celeb so some women may love it when someone like him says stuff like that. As for me, if a guy’s idea of “seducing” me is to ask me (presumably on or close to the first date) to have his baby, I’m running for the hills as fast as possible. All kidding aside, I hope KJK’s wish comes true. I appreciate him poking fun at himself, but it’s very clear that he truly wants to have a child (and not necessarily through marriage). I’m glad his mom’s on board with the idea. I’m also thankful SJH was laughing. Just had a scary thought: Man, KJK’s daughter is going to be one h*ell of a spoiled brat. She won’t do anything wrong in her dad’s eyes. :) 

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