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25 minutes ago, CI0 said:

 

And the way he kept explaining himself even after she said said "I got it" the first time. LOL 

Yes, SJH agreed with him the first time and he still kept explaining lol

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I just watched the ep with subs. I agree with what most of you already said. IMO, the most telling part of the ep in terms of SA’s relationship is the intro part. I’m going to repeat what some of you already said so I apologize for that, but I want to keep everything in context. Here goes:

 

Right after the PD gave SA the rules, he told them to think very carefully whether to spend the money separately or together. While they’re still thinking, the staff showed what appeared to be SA’s internal thoughts:

 

SJH (internal thoughts): But Jong Kook, do you remember? - Cut to a replay of the moment they hugged. December starts playing. 

KJK: (actual thoughts): I will think carefully.

SJH (internal thoughts): We were so happy, then - December keeps playing.

PD: Then, we will check the cards now.

KJK (internal thoughts): Yes, Ji Hyo. We won because we were together - Again, December plays.

 

After SA’s choices are revealed, KJK goes into cautious mode and starts explaining to the audience his reasoning, but IMO also telling SJH what to do. Side bar: this reminds me of him coaching SJH during her story of the ex BF and the balloons. Anyways, he continues:

 

KJK: I thought that if I chose this “together” card, I knew that it wouldn’t work well for us. We need to take a break. If we decide to spend the money together, it would turn out weird.

SJH: I got it.

KJK: I thought I should get rid of it.

SJH: I got it.

 

Some basic observations:

1) While the PD tells both to think carefully, IMO he’s mainly addressing KJK.

 

2) While SJH has been the bolder one, she ultimately follows KJK’s lead, hence his little speech to both the audience and her. Not surprisingly, she says, “I got it.”

 

3) He acknowledges the weirdness of the situation, but once again he doesn’t deny. He just says they need to take a break. Logically, there’s no need to take a break if there’s nothing going on. You only take a break, because you’re doing something. Obviously, he’s alluding to the LL, but I think he’s also acknowledging that there’s something going on between them beyond the LL. As always, just my opinion, ofc.

 

4) Which leads me to agree that he’s confirming (at least to me) that one or both are in a relationship right now, more than likely with each other.

 

5) The reason is, I don’t see either one going through an elaborate, very public, and very high profile LL if they have other partners. As we’ve already said countless times, that’s the height of disrespect for their partners.

 

6) Despite both agreeing to take a break, SJH teasingly back hugged KJK at the FM. Again, if she’s with someone else, she wouldn’t have done that. If he’s with someone else, he wouldn’t have accepted the hug. Their interactions in the next eps will give us more clues. Incidentally, there’s no preview for next week.

 

7) It seems December will be SA’s theme song. What a great choice.

 

8) I’m hoping for a twist. SA spending time together in LA is too good to pass up, so fingers crossed that the staff doesn’t mess things up. Ultimately, I would prefer that SA’s LL doesn’t turn into a mess, but I would be lying if I said sometimes I don’t care. If the “mess” forces them to confess, I’m all for it. Sorry for being so selfish. :) 

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26 minutes ago, mn0096 said:

 

5) The reason is, I don’t see either one going through an elaborate, very public, and very high profile LL if they have other partners. As we’ve already said countless times, that’s the height of disrespect for their partners.

I've been thinking about this too. Even back in MC era, when news came out about SJH dating someone, KG backed off for a while and the LL "broke up". I assume when they got "back together" was around the time SJH's real relationship ended. And KG even asked SJH to let him know when she dates someone so he can be careful of how he acts around her. This shows that the members respect each others' real-life relationships and won't compromise it for the sake of a LL. They also let the kwangmin LL fizzle out probably also around the time LKS started dating. 

 

This tells me that if either KJK or SJH were dating someone else currently, the other members would not push so hard for their LL and would not tease them at every opportunity (especially HH whom I assume would know both of them the best and YJS who doesn't seem to like LLs that much to begin with).

 

ETA: Also, KJK has been vocal about wanting to date and get married soon. He and all of them know that getting into a LL with SJH would complicate things for him if he really is searching for someone else. If it truly bothered him, I think he would protest more forcefully or maybe talk to the PD and other members about backing off. But as of now, he's either just laughing along shyly or putting up weak protests. My delulu is that he's mostly resisting in order to protect SJH because she's gotten haters before due to LLs. 

 

LOL sorry I have so much to say, this is the first time in years that I've had people to talk to about SA. 

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HH thinks all this is a fraudulent conspiracy to “corner” SA. How I wish. Notice how no one’s denying. SJH broke into laughter, and KJK smiled. There’s absolutely no tension, though as soon as LKS starts his chant, YJS tells him to stop it. I think we’re right to look at YJS’s behavior. :) 

 

Credits as indicated. Thanks.

 

20 minutes ago, heynell said:

LOL sorry I have so much to say, this is the first time in years that I've had people to talk to about SA. 

 

LOL. No worries. Personally, I look forward to reading more from you. :) 

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When they decided to separated ( vacation alone), i agreed with them, because i remember when KG won Europe trip, and it wasn't that 'free' there's still camera joined him everywhere, and IMO it was uncomfortable although S*S payed it all:lol: , so if they were decide to join with each other, it would be 'weird' like KJK said, because camera still join with them everywhere. And that would be awkward and no privacy. I like it when they smart choose something like this, they didn't take S*S bite their privacy for just  rating sake. If they will go to vacation, i think they both prepare some privacy so they can relax lovey dovey all the time with no pressure.:D

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1 hour ago, mn0096 said:

SJH (internal thoughts): But Jong Kook, do you remember? - Cut to a replay of the moment they hugged. December starts playing. 

SJH (internal thoughts): We were so happy, then - December keeps playing.

KJK (internal thoughts): Yes, Ji Hyo. We won because we were together - Again, December plays.

 

Some basic observations:

3) He acknowledges the weirdness of the situation, but once again he doesn’t deny. He just says they need to take a break. Logically, there’s no need to take a break if there’s nothing going on. You only take a break, because you’re doing something. Obviously, he’s alluding to the LL, but I think he’s also acknowledging that there’s something going on between them beyond the LL. As always, just my opinion, ofc.

 

4) Which leads me to agree that he’s confirming (at least to me) that one or both are in a relationship right now, more than likely with each other.

 

5) The reason is, I don’t see either one going through an elaborate, very public, and very high profile LL if they have other partners. As we’ve already said countless times, that’s the height of disrespect for their partners.

 

6) Despite both agreeing to take a break, SJH teasingly back hugged KJK at the FM. Again, if she’s with someone else, she wouldn’t have done that. If he’s with someone else, he wouldn’t have accepted the hug. Their interactions in the next eps will give us more clues. Incidentally, there’s no preview for next week.

 

8) I’m hoping for a twist. SA spending time together in LA is too good to pass up, so fingers crossed that the staff doesn’t mess things up. Ultimately, I would prefer that SA’s LL doesn’t turn into a mess, but I would be lying if I said sometimes I don’t care. If the “mess” forces them to confess, I’m all for it. Sorry for being so selfish. :) 

 

 

I really love when internal though, the caption, the video clip, & the BGM.

 

LOL . He never make it a clear nothing happens between him & SJH.

He always explaining this & that instead make it a clear & sometimes when KJK give a reason why doing this & that actually my mind though this : KJK don't want to obvious but didn't want to make SJH mad / sad / upset.

 

Agree w/ u for point 4 & 5 also. I just hope SA dating in real life. (no, not pushed their relationship became real, but at least this is our sa shippers dreams & wish).

 

Totally agree w/ u for point 6. Booth of them really close, what if nothing happens between them + 1 of them have a bf / gf ofc it's full disrespect even just for the show, esp booth of them really enjoying it hugged and hugging . LOL .

 

Since 2019 start, seems the filming for RM every 2 weeks. Today, is filming for RM eps 439, yes agree with u, hope more clue about SA & maybe looking how the respect of audience about SA ? (My mind is like a mentioned before, they plan to reveal it slowly but sure).

 

 That my think & my wish too. Plot twist . In the end will choose KJK ... (Mianhae my delulu wish.

 

It's too obvious when HH said it's all fraudulent conspiracy. KJK & SJH, booth of them no denying, no explaining, no mad, no upset, no speak, just smile, enjoy, laugh, seems agreeing indirectly. ;) 

 

 

1 hour ago, heynell said:

I've been thinking about this too. Even back in MC era, when news came out about SJH dating someone, KG backed off for a while and the LL "broke up". I assume when they got "back together" was around the time SJH's real relationship ended. And KG even asked SJH to let him know when she dates someone so he can be careful of how he acts around her. This shows that the members respect each others' real-life relationships and won't compromise it for the sake of a LL. They also let the kwangmin LL fizzle out probably also around the time LKS started dating. 

 

My delulu is that he's mostly resisting in order to protect SJH because she's gotten haters before due to LLs.

 

Agree with u, back to MC era, all of members incl SJH & KG them self make it a clear nothings happens between them. Yes, they're respect each other & good secret keeper too.

 

My mind think this too, I remember when SJK & SJH era, SJH once said : she was read & hear 1.000 antis fans from SJK to SJH, so she didn't want to close SJK ...

or my mind think this too : they're pull & push until the day of wedding bells rings is came.

In the end of 2018, KJK is the bolder one. It would be great if KJK & SJH have a daughter, blablabla

2019, SJH is the bolder one.

 

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53 minutes ago, delusionalme said:

When they decided to separated ( vacation alone), i agreed with them, because i remember when KG won Europe trip, and it wasn't that 'free' there's still camera joined him everywhere, and IMO it was uncomfortable although S*S payed it all:lol: , so if they were decide to join with each other, it would be 'weird' like KJK said, because camera still join with them everywhere. And that would be awkward and no privacy. I like it when they smart choose something like this, they didn't take S*S bite their privacy for just  rating sake. If they will go to vacation, i think they both prepare some privacy so they can relax lovey dovey all the time with no pressure.:D

 

 

Ahhhh agree with you, that's really make sense...

Their type are just want enjoy a privacy life not for attention from audience, not for the show, & rating while what if they still filming, they must have a gap for not obvious & maybe just maybe this is the reason NZ filming also a lot of cut it off . :D :D 

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*first of all, apologies for the super long post*

 

Actually i have a feeling jihyo noona is actually dating someone right now. The kpop prediction @Regita M. P shared which stated that jihyo noona is actually dating rn. I mean i do not usually believe such accounts but perhaps there is a truth to it? Since i noticed jihyo noona is really blooming these days. She seems to be cheerful and happy too. So i guess there might be some truth in that prediction and maybe she is indeed dating rn. If she is indeed dating, i sincerely wish and pray hard that she is dating jk hyung. There is one statement in the prediction which aligns with what we sa shippers have thought. Regarding the predictor stated she is not sure about whether there will be dating news published for jihyo noona but stated jihyo noona's fans will know about it when she announces her marriage. All of us SA fans also have the opinion that SA, if real, will announce their marriage directly without announcing their relationship. 

 

To be honest, for last week's episode with the hanbok, when i saw jong kook hyung deny firmly in regards to the passionate romance (of course he won't agree to it but his denial to me was rather strong and firm), i did thought about @cleo47012's 4th possibility about jong kook hyung having a serious gf who is not jihyo noona. But what if it was the other way around? That thought did strike me. What if it was jihyo noona who was in a relationship with another person. Could that explain why jong kook hyung quickly denied about the passionate romance part? Could that explain why these days jong kook hyung is usually very reserved and careful when it comes to skinship and interactions with jihyo noona? Because if we think about the past, around 2011/2012 when jihyo noona was in a relationship with the ceo, we can see jong kook hyung was rather careful with his interactions with jihyo noona. As for jihyo noona, i realised she still did skinship and interactions with jong kook hyung back in the days she was reportedly in a relationship. In other words, jihyo noona is rather still open about skinships and interactions with other members even when she was in a relationship back in 2011/2012. Could that be the same case now? Meaning that could explain why jong kook hyung is rather careful and reserved with her but she still continues her usual interactions with him. 

 

But then again, let's recap all their recent interactions. If jihyo noona is indeed in a relationship with another man, i really don't think she would have enjoyed all the teasing from members as well as even play along with it. She would have respected her bf's feelings. 

 

Also, if jihyo noona was dating someone else, i am sure jk hyung would have respected her bf and i doubt he would have played the 'protective bf' role at the arrival and departure at the airport last week.

 

Also, i doubt the cast would be so enthusiastic to tease our SA if one of them is indeed in a relationship with someone else. Back when jihyo noona was in a relationship in 2011, they even completely stopped MC LL in respect of her real life relationship. I doubt the members, especially jae suk hyung would be so supportive of SA. Jae suk hyung was clearly against MC and he completely shut down the possibility of Kwangmin (most likely he knew about kwangsoo dating sunnbin already that time) and also the kookyoung loveline. I am also surprised at the amount kwangsoo is teasing his hyung and noona. He was never this active before and he himself being in the centre of kwangmin loveline and intense teading during the sbs awards while in a relationship with sunbin i doubt he would have teased his hyung and noona this much if his hyung and noona were in a relationship with others.

 

As for haha hyung he has always been mischievious and cheeky in teasing jk hyung's other lovelines too so i won't put much weight to haha hyung's teasing. I am more interested at the teasing by jae suk hyung himself and kwangsoo hyung. Although the last 2 episodes, jae suk hyung has asked kwangsoo hyung to tone it down a little. Lol

 

So after analysing all as above, my wishful thinking is SA is in a relationship with each other :star:

 

Also, postnote, i get pissed off when haters ask us to give up on SA saying SA will never be real since they are labelled as a loveline and ask us to learn from what happened to MC/ Kwangmin who turned out not to be real. I mean come on, with MC and Kwangmin the individual parties never showed they were interested in each other in the beginning nor are they close like our SA who does hang out outside of RM (kwangmin does hang out outside rm with somin's brother and with sechan at times but their closeness is still not at par with our SA's closeness) and the other important diff of SA with MC or kwangmin is that jae suk hyung is really supportive of SA and even states it would be best if SA married (completely skipping the dating part. Lol) and commented countless times how SA looks like a nice couple and makes a nice couple (during the couple ep that day). On the other hand, he was never suoportive of MC nor kwangmin since the beginning and has always said MC/Kwangmin was impossible. 

 

 

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@spartaceluv98

 

Anything possible as long as KJK & SJH not confirmed it yet about their love life in the public / as long as dispatch not caught yet.

 

Didn't wrong for pre assume this & that, because we're just fans & don't know what happens between SA when off camera, filming but not airing, & behind the scene.

 

:)

 

But, since I'm SA shippers, I'm pretty sure SA dating in real life.

OK, maybe I'm so confident about this case but a lot of moments, interactions, & skinships which make me believe SA dating in real life around 2013 / 2014.

 

Far before SA became a highlight like this & teased by all of the members.

 

Thinking about nowadays,

actually SA more better, more closer, more open to the public about their moments, interactions, & skinships than before when MC era.

All of members, esp YJS, LKS, & HH more talkative & more aggressive about SA & about HH himself, inside & outside RM he's doing that.

 

What if, SA didn't dating in real life & maybe SJH dating someone who isn't KJK, it's really disrespect to endless teasing with KJK & to endless seduce with KJK by all of members, we all know, RM members really respect towards each others & good secret keeper.

What if, SA didn't dating in real life, their skinships must have a limits.

But, see, they didn't have.

Denying it's just words & we must considerate also about body language.

 

Maybe for sake the show & rating, so SA play along ?

I don't think so, even MC era whos have a huge fans, they had made it a clear at that time & didn't want to play along.

Esp the teasing still continue outside RM & SBS (esp BP & PJF whos isn't under control SBS), so ofc didn't for sake the show & rating RM.

 

Once again, I just saying my opinion & maybe my opinion also didn't right :) 

Let's wait until in the end of this year, wish something happens about SA :D

 

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https://fx.weico.net/share/57505281.html?weibo_id=4338466944271952

 

 

 

These pictures & caption from weibo said (from translate in SA line group) :

- the upper part of the body is trying to avoiding each other but the legs still touch each other.

(KJK's leg touch SJH's leg).

 

Aaa I remember HH said in the latest scene :

We get excited for the smallest things.

LOL .

Actually that's SA shippers feels for a long time ago :lol:

 

 

btw thanks @spartaceluv98 for the information about SA became 1 team again . I'm so addict with SA became 1 partner / 1 team . LOL .

This is Monday & can't wait for Sunday :lol:

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I know somebody shared this already. But jh seems to be promoting "blackbond" cap too much. Someone might be supplying her! 

 

Re: discussion abt SA -- my thought is pretty simple, if they are dating other people, i think this is the point in time where they should pave the way, clean the path for their futureannouncement. Creating a new LL is not a healthy thing and a good move for either. They have been rumored to be together, even marriage, for a long time already. So why open it now, push it now when its goung nowhere? It doesn't make sense at all and for me honestly it' s a pure b.ulls.hit! Yeah we SAcers want to see them, but we are not that disrespectful and inconsiderate to just think about our happiness over theirs. If they are not together, we cannot do anything abt it, so they don't need to push or make SA a LL just to please us. When jk said "we need to take a break", i think he means "let's not be in a hurry, lets take things slowly"...he didn't say let's stop it. He just said, "take a break"...it was like during MC, not in all eps MC is doing their lovey dovey. But unlike MC, SA in on a diff level i think. With MC, it was clear from the beginning that it was only a role they played. But with SA it was on a diff level. This time around it's not only SA that is careful, even the viewers are careful, they don't want another "fake thing". They don't want to expect anything anymore just to be frustratrd in the end. That's why i think SA is taking it slowly, to let the viewers see that it's not like before, that it is different. They want to public to accept the idea of them as a couple Not just on cam but has the great possibility off cam also. 

 

Re: LA trip -- jh might take either HH or SJ, and who knows jk might be in his "own" trip to LA with his alibi "it's time for me to go to LA, you all know that it's like my 2nd home"...although its farfetched to happen, but who knows, right??? We didn't expect all of this to happen either.

 

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1 hour ago, sofiemarz said:

When jk said "we need to take a break", i think he means "let's not be in a hurry, lets take things slowly"...he didn't say let's stop it. He just said, "take a break"

yeah I never thought about this but you're right, KJK could have said something about ending the teasing or ending the loveline, but he just said something about taking a break. Interesting choice of words for us delulus lol

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4 hours ago, Regita M. P said:

@spartaceluv98

 

Anything possible as long as KJK & SJH not confirmed it yet about their love life in the public / as long as dispatch not caught yet.

 

Didn't wrong for pre assume this & that, because we're just fans & don't know what happens between SA when off camera, filming but not airing, & behind the scene.

 

:)

 

But, since I'm SA shippers, I'm pretty sure SA dating in real life.

OK, maybe I'm so confident about this case but a lot of moments, interactions, & skinships which make me believe SA dating in real life around 2013 / 2014.

 

Far before SA became a highlight like this & teased by all of the members.

 

Thinking about nowadays,

actually SA more better, more closer, more open to the public about their moments, interactions, & skinships than before when MC era.

All of members, esp YJS, LKS, & HH more talkative & more aggressive about SA & about HH himself, inside & outside RM he's doing that.

 

What if, SA didn't dating in real life & maybe SJH dating someone who isn't KJK, it's really disrespect to endless teasing with KJK & to endless seduce with KJK by all of members, we all know, RM members really respect towards each others & good secret keeper.

What if, SA didn't dating in real life, their skinships must have a limits.

But, see, they didn't have.

Denying it's just words & we must considerate also about body language.

 

Maybe for sake the show & rating, so SA play along ?

I don't think so, even MC era whos have a huge fans, they had made it a clear at that time & didn't want to play along.

Esp the teasing still continue outside RM & SBS (esp BP & PJF whos isn't under control SBS), so ofc didn't for sake the show & rating RM.

 

Once again, I just saying my opinion & maybe my opinion also didn't right :) 

Let's wait until in the end of this year, wish something happens about SA :D

 

Yes, if SA is indeed real, I have a feeling we will hear good news towards the end of this year. Because i believe next year would be the year for SA to marry (again, this only applies if SA is indeed real and the timeline given by jong kook hyung is the actual one; i.e his wish to get married next year)

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I just finished watching the latest episode of RM. I feel so giddy even in the first few minutes because the way Ji Hyo ennie smile is too cute and as if she is a teenage girl in love (or maybe I am just too delusional). ;) I guess on cam they are very careful but offcam, who knows, right? Ji Hyo's luck is really incredible! The controversial Christmas story of Ji Hyo looks very intriguing. I agree with Haha that maybe it's new... BUT the big question is WHO? I just hope it's just KJK :) (the way KJK reacts, I think he knows it in detailed too. Or maybe he is the one who did it, right??? I'm fangirling soo much now! yay! ;)  

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Did you guys noticed? When HH said abt his theory that SA can still pick each other, SA did not argue with it, yjs did not correct him, and even the pd itself did not correct or argued with HH!!! hnmmmm, i'm not gonna expect much, but what if there's a twist and SA ended up going to LA together??? Damn, i'm so high again! Sorry :P

 

 

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1 hour ago, sofiemarz said:

Did you guys noticed? When HH said abt his theory that SA can still pick each other, SA did not argue with it, yjs did not correct him, and even the pd itself did not correct or argued with HH!!! hnmmmm, i'm not gonna expect much, but what if there's a twist and SA ended up going to LA together??? Damn, i'm so high again! Sorry :P

 

 

Under normal circumstances I wouldn't expect there to be a twist but seeing how the trip is to LA a.k.a Jongkook's second home and how Jongkook usually is the one to help translate for the members (I'm sure the PDs as well) whenever they go to predominantly english speaking places. So I'm 80% sure there will be a twist. Although that might be my delulu heart wishing for it. lol 

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