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Nothing really to comment on about the episode itself as I have not watched it yet. But I have noticed that this thread has kind of taken a different direction after the petition and firing incident.

ALERT: LONG POST AHEAD! I just finished watching the latest episode, and here are my thoughts about it. My earlier comments were made before watching the episode, so I hope you'll overlook things

Random thoughts Remember JK said he will slowly reveal to the public that he is in a relationship( I don't remember that exact words he used or when he said that) because he don't want to be like

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14 hours ago, myrunningman1 said:

I think we wont know at what timing on the 12th that JK was told. It could be at night or JK could have found out and did not tell JH until she was back from the premiere. But I firmly believe she already knew about it on the day he did. If they have the kind of relationship we assume they have, it cannot be that JK would tell Tiny all the way in LA about all the details but did not tell JH

Perhaps he was told sometime after the filming was done, but JH left early to attend her premiere and JK waited till she came back to tell her. We will never know. But I too feel she would have known before the 14th. This is just my speculation. But if JH was photographed on the 16th and attended the meeting to decide the fate of the show, then the 3 days she was inconsolable may have included the 13th? They say they couldn't contact her for 3 days, but the meeting on the 16th doesn't fit in with that. JH said she felt she was in a daze after she came to know Gary would leave, so imagine how sad she must have been for JK! But if the 3 days include the 13th, I can't imagine JH being all sad by herself on the 13th when it was JK who needed to be consoled. There is also a chance that JH saw the writing on the wall once JK got fired. They knew two people were going to be replaced, right? On the other hand, the 3 days may have been just a general time period, so it may not exactly work that way.

Can someone link the eng-subbed video of the cast interview on the red carpet?

@airplanegirl I can't find that news about LKS deciding to focus on his acting anywhere else. Can you link me the korean article if it has not been translated into English yet?

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@athoughtcloud1 I was wondering the same thing. At first, I thought the "three days" was just an exaggeration, but actually, if we include the day that KJK got fired, then it would make sense. And we probably shouldn't take the statement too literally. It's possible that she shut her phone off after finding out about KJK and everyone except for her family (and maybe KJK) was not able to contact her. I doubt the person saying "no one could contact her" was one of her close family and is probably speaking from the perspective of a good friend. The main point is that after the news of the firings came out, SJH was hard to contact (probably shut off her phone) and miserable, everything else may not be literal. 

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@chelseafjl8 Interesting post! I am still not sure whether JK knew they were going to bring up his pics with SJH for that particular escape crisis episode. If I remember right, there were slightly more scandalous things brought up about the other MCs too which I really don't think they would have wanted others to know. Perhaps the cast were given a general idea of what the team was doing - but whether JK knew that they were going to use his and JH's pics together is another question. The other MCs also seemed slightly taken aback seeing the pics, so get the feeling it may not all have been scripted. Also, JK's flustered reaction to the pics seems quite natural. But yeah, unless JK gave the green signal, they wouldn't have chosen to air it. Again, what you pointed out is right - Haha uploading that SA pic which must have been with JK's permission at a time when the Escape Crisis episode was gonna air shows JK didn't really mind the association. It is during 2016, especially after MC ended, that I feel SA have been more open about being photographed together. Before while there were hints here and there, they weren't this apparent. What used to happen before was that SA would drop some hint, but then they would backtrack. I am not sure whether we can read their close hug in the hotel corridor as dropping a hint - yes, it was kind of a public place, but the situation was such that after JK's injury during the game, while JH took care of him, JK couldn't openly tell her anything since they were in front of so many cameras. So he may have known how worried she was for him, so once they were out in a semi-private space, he may have thrown caution to the wind and showed his appreciation for her/allowed her to take care of him more openly.

Late 2014-early 2015 is interesting coz contradictory things keep happening. 2014 ended with an almost pepero kiss between spartace which made the viewers see these two in a romantic light, but then it wasn't followed up in the next episode. MC were teamed up in that episode and till now, there has been no reference to that pepero game. Wonder if the production team were taken by surprise? Did they expect SJ and JK to do it, but the cast wanted JK and JH to go for it and the production team allowed it since they felt it had an entertainment quotient. But then they felt SA would be too dangerous for the official loveline? The Pocha pic was uploaded soon after the 2014 SBS awards as if to reassure the MC fans that their ship could be real. The MC CF seemed to have been signed by the end of December and in an early 2015 fanmeet, JK jokingly refers to how MC is back again because they are getting lots of CFs.  But something was happening with Spartace too. Spartace were spotted together on the flight in Feb 2015 and episode 241, shot in March 2015, has a couple of references to JK's marriage. I had made a post about that episode long back. Reposting it here.

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There is one episode that intrigues me, episode number 241. We know Park Ye Jin and JK go a long way back and that she has already come on running man twice before. I am sure she must have got to meet the male members of the RM cast before the shooting of that particular episode started unlike how we are shown in the actual episode where the identity of the female guests is supposed to be a secret for the male members. What I am saying is that Ye Jin and JK must have interacted before the shoot started since they are old friends. Anyway, the opening scene has JH and the girls, Park Ye Jin, Yoo Jin Seo and Shin Se Kyung sitting down  and planning on how to trick the male members. Once they join the male members and Jin Seo is paired up with JK, there is a bit of teasing going on where the members, as usual, declare that JK has chances of finding his life partner with the female guest of the day. However, there are a lot many references than usual in that episode to JK's marriage. Suk Jin wishes aloud for JK to find his life partner from RM (cough cough). When they bury the time capsules and each member is asked to make a wish they would want to see fulfilled, Jae Suk wishes to see JK married (and JK complains, 'what are you doing?'). Ye Jin, who is an old friend of JK, also makes the wish for him to find a life companion soon and settle down, prompting JK to make the 'why are you saying that?' remark again. When JK is asked to make his wish, he is standing facing JH and his wish is a rather abstract "I wish this would continue like this ". JK is then made to turn around and make the wish in front of Jin Seo. JK then surprises everyone with a romantic proposal. But surprisingly, Jin Seo outright rejects him hoping that 'he would meet a better person". Everyone knows this kind of banter is for variety and the female guest is usually supposed to play along. Jin Seo's  answer in fact surprises the RM cast members and she has to clarify why she said that soon afterwards. Now Jin Seo could have said that coz she was nervous since it was her first time on RM or she already had a BF whom she didn't want to upset or in terms of spartace, she knew JK already had got someone and hence found it awkward to pretend otherwise especially in a situation when the GF was around (major delu here ;) ). The girls must have hung out together for some time at the start of the shoot and since Ye Jin and JH know each other a bit from the times she guested on RM before, they must have chatted about other things as well. Since Ye Jin then had a BF, chances are that some gossip of that sort must also have been exchanged. This episode was broadcast on April 5, 2015. Hence, it must have been shot sometime in March, right after JH and JK were coincidentally spotted on the same flight to NY. These are all just speculations, but from the way almost everybody was talking about JK's marriage in that episode, I was wondering if they knew something which the audience didn't know. ;). What I am wondering is whether there was some serious talk about JK's marriage at that point. At that time, the MC loveline was also on hold since Gary is actively flirting with SSK in the episode and the others are also teasing him about it. So, perhaps, everybody used the female guest as an excuse to say indirectly what they wanted to say about JK's lovelife which was at an interesting point then. :) Ye Jin's case somehow strikes me as especially interesting. We know JK is closely attached to his Family Outing members, whether it be Sooro, Daesung or Ye Jin. Whenever an ex-FO member guests on RM, YJS and KJK seem really excited and when that happens, their conversations in the car are more of a catching up on the other's news and reminiscing rather than the usual small talk with the guests. Hence, for Park Ye Jin who must have caught up with JK after a long time, perhaps the concern with his getting married was actually a reaction to some catching up on his actual situation than just a wish for the sake of it. I haven't often seen Jae Suk seriously making a wish on RM for JK to get married (usually it is a lot of teasing, but this time he is really serious), hence, for him and Ye Jin to both seriously wish the same thing for their ex-FO castmate seems a bit striking.  

So around this time, while MC were doing CFs together, it wasn't really that 'on' in the episodes. But by the 2nd half of 2015, perhaps around the time the fanmeets start?, that changes and we get a major MC push around the 5th anniversary episode. That goes on for some time. But then MC is put in the freezer again until JH signs up for WAIL and the weirdest and most aggressive MC push takes place in the episodes around the time WAIL is supposed to air. Some time after the brain scan test which signals the official end of MC, JK's friends start uploading pics of their private gatherings. They don't have problems with fans taking their pics together. After this, there has been no backtracking - things have been fairly consistent. On the show too, JK starts acting really close with JH and when they are teamed up with others including her monday boyfriend, JK makes sure that he is the one who holds her hand 90% of the time.

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1 hour ago, linzer03 said:

 It's possible that she shut her phone off after finding out about KJK and everyone except for her family (and maybe KJK) was not able to contact her. I doubt the person saying "no one could contact her" was one of her close family and is probably speaking from the perspective of a good friend. The main point is that after the news of the firings came out, SJH was hard to contact (probably shut off her phone) and miserable, everything else may not be literal.

 Agree. Can't imagine JH not letting her close family contact her during a time when she was in that much distress. I know she has this streak where when she gets overwhelmed with upsetting things, she wants to run away from everything and be alone (she talks about going to the jungle and settling down there in her recent interview), but she is also somebody who cares deeply about the people around her. Can't imagine her worrying her mom, who she says is her most favourite person in the world. by not letting her contact her. When scared or upset, she usually relies on JK. Again, JK was going through something similar and would have needed her. So I really don't see her shutting herself off from him as well. Yes, she may have shut her phone off so that random acquaintances or SBS may not be able to contact her. 

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14 minutes ago, chelseafjl8 said:

I believed that JH is living with her parents according to the GO!Fridge episode which she and Gary guested on and also her interviews.

 

 I too thought so coz of the 'Go Fridge show', but then for the interview for 'My Wife is Having an Affair', she talks about the most dramatic moment in her life as seeing her mom walk in after long for a 2 weeks visit.

 

Got the feeling it was recent? So perhaps her mom does stay with her, but there may be times when she goes visiting other people? But then she says it was just for '2 weeks', so where did her mom go after that? Perhaps her mom used to stay with JH before, but now doesn't? Quite confused about that part. May be somebody can check whether the subs are right.

JH is so cute with the TT dance. The second last gif has her jerking her shoulder instead of moving her head. JK was teaching her to move her head and in the award show, she has got it right - she is doing it gracefully.

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6 hours ago, airplanegirl said:

Looks like SBS has lost Kwang Soo too. 

 

Fml fml fml, this totally had me crying, I hate how one richard simmons can change the entire situation, I hate how the people I have seen for 4-5 years every Monday/Tuesday is gonna end soon, I hate how the members are so depressed and sad right now. I hate how there is not much we can do as fans. 

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2 minutes ago, kaycxn said:

Fml fml fml, this totally had me crying, I hate how one richard simmons can change the entire situation, I hate how the people I have seen for 4-5 years every Monday/Tuesday is gonna end soon, I hate how the members are so depressed and sad right now. I hate how there is not much we can do as fans. 

 

I wish some other station would get them all together and start a new show - but the chances of that happening are so slim. I would have loved to join a petition requesting other broadcasting stations to make it happen, but I don't think it would work. There are so many things involved. 

Like somebody said here before, can't somebody like Na PD send them off somewhere for a 2 episode travel show? It would be such a hit!

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11 hours ago, athoughtcloud1 said:

Perhaps he was told sometime after the filming was done, but JH left early to attend her premiere and JK waited till she came back to tell her. We will never know. But I too feel she would have known before the 14th. This is just my speculation. But if JH was photographed on the 16th and attended the meeting to decide the fate of the show, then the 3 days she was inconsolable may have included the 13th? They say they couldn't contact her for 3 days, but the meeting on the 16th doesn't fit in with that. JH said she felt she was in a daze after she came to know Gary would leave, so imagine how sad she must have been for JK! But if the 3 days include the 13th, I can't imagine JH being all sad by herself on the 13th when it was JK who needed to be consoled. There is also a chance that JH saw the writing on the wall once JK got fired. They knew two people were going to be replaced, right? On the other hand, the 3 days may have been just a general time period, so it may not exactly work that way.

Can someone link the eng-subbed video of the cast interview on the red carpet?

@airplanegirl I can't find that news about LKS deciding to focus on his acting anywhere else. Can you link me the korean article if it has not been translated into English yet?

 

I have always thought that the 3 days was a general term and so did not read too much into it. And when we heard that JH shut off, I took it to mean that general acquaintances and most friends had no contact with her - not that absolutely no one did and she lived in a black hole. Her family and JK most definitely did. Even if we assume she and JK doesnt have a romantic relationship, a natural thing to do would be to reach out to the person whom you know is going through the same 'pain' with you, especially since no matter what, they're so close. I'm sure JK had access to her during this period.

For someone as private as JH, if she can go to JK's friends' gathering, it means the level of comfort she has with JK is very high.It is awkward going to a gathering of your friend with his friends. So.........the closeness is there

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Was watching SBS awards subbed. Seems like SBS believes having famous MCs together will automatically create memorable moments. That really didn't happen. Lee Kyung Kyu and Kang Ho Dong looked so uncomfortable together. I have to blame Lee Kyung Kyu for that coz he seems so aloof, almost like doing a one man show half the time and thus not really creating any synergy with the other two MCs. Liked Kang Ho Dong and Lee Si Young better as MCs.

RM fans who watched the show on kshowonline think Kang Ho Dong and Lee Kyung Kyu saying they are gonna host the show for free in the opening drama segment was a diss at JK-JH for donating their appearance fee, but it may be just a funny comment. Lee Kyung Kyu in between said something like if there is miscommunication, a show will fail, so that seemed like a reference to RM to me. I really don't know what he meant by that, but taken literally, seems a statement in support of RM.

I really didn't understand why in the Daesang nominee intro video of YJS, they included his statement last year that he would make RM reach the top in ratings. They made it seem like that comment showcased his determination, but that seemed like a backhanded compliment given the situation of RM right now. 

Kim Gura in his interview with the comedian while evaluating the other Daesang nominees mentioned that RM is in a mess now, but he also added that the cast and the crew worked hard. 

The other interesting thing was the huge fuss made over the reel turned real life couple from Burning Youth, Kim Guk Jin and Lee Soo Ji. There were even comments that their dating announcement helped increase the ratings for the show. KGJ was asked if there were was a possibility for other couples on his show to turn real in the future. Totally shows SBS loves milking any possibilities of an official couple on the show turning real. When Lee Si Young introduced KGJ and LSJ as the couple who are gonna present the award for best couple, she talked about how there is a saying that people who meet on SBS variety shows turn into real life couples. Wonder what JK and JH felt hearing that!

I am glad they chose the 'Don't worry, my darling' song. YJS sang his lines so well and the entire RM cast seemed so touched by it. At the end of the song, JSJ put his hand on his chest. I guess he was telling the others how moved he was by it.

 Kwang Soo looked like a lost little boy when he started giving his award speech. He thanked the PDs and the crew for trying to protect RM (wonder what that meant!) It was really heart-wrenching. I loved how he ended it saying he would try to make everyone laugh until the end. The maknae of the show, KS has grown up so much over these 7 years. The PD and the crew looked glum and preoccupied when they handed the bouquets to LKS. They left the stage quickly. No one even held RM banners at the back like they did for all the other winners. Seems like the whole controvesy has broken the spirit of the cast and the crew.

Like others, I too thought Lee Kyung Kyu had no business to poke fun at JSJ by wondering what JSJ could possibly teach KS about variety. He clearly meant it as a joke, but there is an occasion for everything and this was not  one. The entire RM cast was feeling so sad over KS' speech and then to listen to a BS comment like that! JSJ is one of those members whom you love the more the more you know him - as the seniormost member of the team, he, after some initial discomfort, cheerfully accepted his role as the weakest member and has no issues about being the butt of everybody's bullying. In a place like Korea where seniority and hierarchies in age matter so much, it is hard to play a role where he is the butt of the jokes of members much younger than him, so Wangko Hyung is amazing! JSJ usually doesn't show his sadness that openly, but during the awards, he was looking so glum. So I really thought the LKK comment was in bad taste. Thankfully, Lee Si Young cut him off saying "You will ruin it" and Kang Ho Dong got the message and immediately moved to the next segment. 

I only watched bits and pieces of KBS Awards, but everything seemed more relaxed and fun there. On SBS, the jokes weren't really funny and people didn't look like they were enjoying it that much. It is great that KBS believes in giving Daesang to someone like Kim Jong Min, who is not really one of the older and well-known MCs unlike SBS which seems pretty traditional in how the Daesang nominees often involve the usual suspects.

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Got this from SA naver. Really cute. It is from episode 330 where the PD asks them to choose from the strawberry and chocolate donut. JK suspects that the teams are going to be chosen based on who eats what, but a possibly hungry JH is too busy eating her strawberry donut to take note of that. She does take a glance at what Haha is eating, but from what I have seen of JH, she usually has this interest in finding out what stuff others are having, whether there is more variety on offer etc. Since she was worried about one of them having wasabi in it, perhaps she was checking out whether Haha's piece has the wasabi? JK dawdles a bit with his choice and I suspect whether it is coz he wants to be on JH's team, but can't openly choose the strawberry one. He hates chocolate, so wonder why he couldn't have made that an excuse. Perhaps he is waiting for YJS to make his choice, which is the chocolate donut, so that he can claim that he chooses the pink one since he doesn't want to be on YJS' team. Anyway, once LKS makes the choice easy for him perhaps reading his mind, JK takes a bite of the strawberry one. JH is meanwhile busy eating her donut and not really bothering with the guys making a fuss. And then the PD announces that the teams are going to be divided based on who ate what. It is so cute to see JH's eyes pop out, go to what Haha is eating and then immediately go to JK and then the donut on the table wondering what he ate. I wonder if she chose strawberry coz she knows JK hates chocolate or the strawberry one looked prettier or more tempting. Then JK looks at someone and I think it is JH since we can see her donut and her cap.

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JH while eating her donut is still checking out what Haha is eating and JK is looking at the production team when he claims he doesn't want to be on YJS' team.

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Checking whether SJ's donut has wasabi?

After the production team announces the rule - JH looks at Haha

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Then her eyes go to JK

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And then to the other strawberry donut on the table?

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JK seems to be looking in JH's direction and from the angle of her cap, JH is also looking at him.

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