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Nothing really to comment on about the episode itself as I have not watched it yet. But I have noticed that this thread has kind of taken a different direction after the petition and firing incident.

Last part before they start performing once again Really no one can stop them from having their own chat room! It's JK's turn to speak and they laughed cutely together again.

Random thoughts Remember JK said he will slowly reveal to the public that he is in a relationship( I don't remember that exact words he used or when he said that) because he don't want to be like

My advance apologies if this post may bring a negative mood but I couldn't help but share what I noticed.

During the RM Red carpet  photo shoot...someone was always trying (and succeeded) to come in between SpartAce :( Photos and videos do not lie. Just search for Spartace hashtag in IG and there are lots of posts that support my theory. 

 

Sharing as well this post for the information of RM fans (esp SJH haters) who still think that favoritism and unfair treatment are fallacy in RM SBS IG official account. I feel sorry for  SJH fans. Their rice contributions were only acknowledged after the RM IG account was heavily criticized for its wrongdoing. 

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1oQublALJX/

 

The numerous photos and videos in IG regarding the FM in Korea as of this time, seemed like SA interactions were non-existent at all. Was this intentional to conceal something between SA or made to favor another member?  I sincerely do not trust how RM Production team plays its game after all its obvious attempts to favor and promote a newbie when there have been 2 newbies in RM since 2017. One was said to be personally chosen by the current PD while the other was referred by a member.

 

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Regarding JSM standing in between Spartace, I honestly think worried SA fans are overreacting. Their placement during such line-ups right in front of the cameras are usually predetermined, they don't just find themselves wherever and try to squeeze their butts in according to which member they favour most. They have already been instructed where to stand/sit. Thinking JSM standing sometimes next to KJK in order to take Press photos means anything - positive or negative - about their professional partnership and friendship is delusional, and that obviously goes for their shippers too. And to be fair, same applies to Spartace in line-ups during fanmeetings. Yes, I love it too when they stand side by side to take photos on a red carpet, but aesthetics aside, this isn't a strong indication Spartace are together either. What matters are their interactions and closeness during the fanmeetings on stage when they are free to roam around, before and after the photos (notice how they enter together in so many occasions and part for the cameras, in tonight's fanmeeting too), at the airports etc. And, obviously, all the rest moments on and off screen when they are not the center of attention, moments that date back to 2010 and haven't stopped occuring to this day. Moments that KJK hasn't shared to the same extent with JSM, HJY and whichever other female he has worked with all these years. Honestly, this mentality that sees JSM's ghost everywhere as a threat is the same one that wants them a couple just because he left a few funny comments on her IG or she patted his back a few times. It's the two different sides, one in favour, the other against, of the same coin and they are based on nothing but distortion of reality to invent "evidence" due to strong wishful thinking.

Are Spartace a couple? Maybe yes, maybe no. We have enough evidence to think they are, however the industry they work in is highly controlling and deceptive, they can highlight Spartace in international fanmeetings due to their popularity and, simultaneously, tone it down in Seoul  (i.e. by not having them stand together for photos as usually) not to spark further rumours which would displease South Korean fans. Running Man still airing can be one of the explanations for neither confirming, nor firmly denying their romantic relationship. Because in either scenario, whether they are together or not, they have something to gain by not making a firm statement considering how this horrible entertainment system works. We will have to wait, and I understand that with the waiting comes the doubting too. But let's cast our shipping googles aside for once and be realists. Are JSM/KJK a couple? Based on what we have seen, probably not. But, of course, there's always a possibility they are. However, it's the same small possibility that wants KJK dating any other female he has worked with or met at a gala/agency, or even a non-celeb we have never heard of just like in Kang Gary's case. We don't know what he is doing in his bedroom. And despite our deductions about his personality, we don't really know every aspect of his character, no matter how many "KJK is shy/jealous/conservative etc." opinions we read. For the most part, we see what they allow us to see. And what they allow us to see is often edited and filtered to fit the industry's rules and needs. So what do fans do? Rush to pair him up with his co-workers, cause that's the only part of his life we see and can use as a reference. JSM has been close to the rest male members of RM too, but since they aren't available (especially after LKS officially dating) and they don't fit the most-wanted-hunky-bachelor image like KJK, he is the only one remaining for potential match-making. Even though celebrities - and I'm not framing JSM right now, I speak generally about every celebrity around - are just like every other person, they cheat, can date married people, can date more than one person during the same period, can be in the same relationship on & off etc. The minds of biased and often conservative fans like to erase these options.

And again, I want to be objective, I'm not excluding Spartace from all this - I have even considered the less likely scenario of them being a couple around 2013-2014 but not anymore. What allows us to differentiate Spartace from other ships and still hope for more isn't the side-hug in the Jakarta fanmeeting or their nice teaming up in episode 461. Wonderful moments? Absolutely. Proofs of a romantic relationship? Allow me to respectfully disagree. At most, they compliment an already established bond, whose probability to be romantic is based on other instances like SJH's photos with KJK's very own friends & family, that immediate embrace as soon as they entered the hotel which is captured only on a lucky fan's camera, the sneakily linked arms as they're heading off stage,  the thumb carressing that can't be seen without zooming in,  SJH literally picking up KJK's socks to hand them to him even though they were right in front of him , something neither a sibling nor a good friend will do so casually, no matter how much anti-SA fans insist.

So, until KJK's niece tells us that JSM dropped her uncle at the gym and then drove her home - seriously, no one is wondering where the heck was KJK's car? - please, don't just buy into a different shipdom's wishful thinking. And no matter what each individual's opinion on JSM and the potential favoritism the RM production exhibits is, at least there is no doubt the woman tries hard to do what she has been asked to for the benefit of the show. It's her freaking job to smile, be funny and engage with the other members on a personal level, KJK included, a job that it was more difficult for her and Se Chan, since they had to compete with both the rest members' consolidation in the fans' hearts and Kang Gary's ghost hovering over a declining show. Don't just slide in the anti-JSM rhetoric, give her a break. Spartace being a couple has nothing to do with her, by standing between them or interacting with KJK she is not trying to ship herself with him - yeah I even read such fiction.

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3 hours ago, purplehope157 said:

The numerous photos and videos in IG regarding the FM in Korea as of this time, seemed like SA interactions were non-existent at all. Was this intentional to conceal something between SA or made to favor another member?  I sincerely do not trust how RM Production team plays its game after all its obvious attempts to favor and promote a newbie when there have been 2 newbies in RM since 2017. One was said to be personally chosen by the current PD while the other was referred by a member.

That's cause Korean fans don't acknowledge SA as a ship. They acknowledge that the two are an excellent team and have a great friendship, but it's not a thing in SK. If they forced it during the Korean fanmeeting, the backlash would have been bad for both Jihyo and JK.

 

JK is about to celebrate his 24th debut anniversary in a few days, I doubt he and his team want anything to get in the way of that.

 

3 hours ago, purplehope157 said:

My advance apologies if this post may bring a negative mood but I couldn't help but share what I noticed.

During the RM Red carpet  photo shoot...someone was always trying (and succeeded) to come in between SpartAce :( Photos and videos do not lie. Just search for Spartace hashtag in IG and there are lots of posts that support my theory. 

Not this again! Can we please establish once and for all that both Kim Jong Kook and Song Ji Hyo are allowed to stand beside other boys and girls?

 

Somin and Kim Jong Kook are good friends. It's just so childish to think that Somin is coming in between Jihyo and Jong Kook when we don't even know if they're really dating? It's already extremely toxic over at Instagram, can we please not bring the toxicity here too?

 

Only international fans think that there is something going on between Somin and JK. Korean fans think that they are siblings with great chemistry and want to see more of their interactions each week. 

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I recently made a post regarding the fanmeet in Korea because honestly, I am very disappointed with the majority of posts I have seen in Instagram.  I do recognize that SpartAce are allowed to stand beside other members or wherever they want to be. I am not a narrow-minded person but I stand by with what I noticed. My reaction/post may come as childish to some but I do not mind. I posted because I was under the impression that this forum welcomes not only my hopes for SA and RM but my frustrations as well.

 

Thank you @Adora Dark for sharing your pov. Your post quite reminded me of some special moments regarding SA that I may have forgotten.

 

I guess I should start to refrain myself from sharing my thoughts in this forum now. This is so unlike me but I think it will be better so as not to drag down anyone’s mood.  I wanted to continue shipping happily but it’s difficult when I am utterly disappointed with how things are going in RM. The old episodes of RM made me smile and laugh, sadly, I couldn’t find the same enthusiasm to watch the recent episodes now.

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12 minutes ago, purplehope157 said:

I recently made a post regarding the fanmeet in Korea because honestly, I am very disappointed with the majority of posts I have seen in Instagram.  I do recognize that SpartAce are allowed to stand beside other members or wherever they want to be. I am not a narrow-minded person but I stand by with what I noticed. My reaction/post may come as childish to some but I do not mind. I posted because I was under the impression that this forum welcomes not only my hopes for SA and RM but my frustrations as well.

No one is saying you can't share your opinions. You are welcome to do so, but do expect us to call you out if we don't agree with your opinions or in my case, it was just toxic to think that way of a fellow cast member.

 

Also, I genuinely suggest you avoid Instagram. It has become extremely toxic lately and I doubt that it will stop anytime soon. Running Man is Running Man. We all have our frustrations with the show and it's editing, but it's really not fair to blame any of the cast members for it. 

 

If anything, the fault lies with the PDs and SBS.

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1 hour ago, purplehope157 said:

I guess I should start to refrain myself from sharing my thoughts in this forum now. This is so unlike me but I think it will be better so as not to drag down anyone’s mood.


I think most people here welcome all opinions. I'm quite cynical myself so perhaps this helps in not being swayed by pessimism. As long as there's some basic - even if wrong/lacking - reasoning behind the opinions shared, and they are not irrational delusions, like the "JSM is trying to ship herself with KJK" nonsense I read and talked about earlier, because it's a total waste of time trying to refute them.

Honestly, when it comes to the part of your post regarding JSM's relation to Spartace, I can see your worries but I don't understand them. You're saying you are aware that Spartace are allowed to interact with other people, so what is the differential factor that makes JSM's case stand out among all others? You referred to photos and videos to back up what you (and I know others too) observed, but when I browse through them - and unless I missed out anything important - all I see are preplanned line-ups (standing & sitting) during a compulsory photo session/stage appearance, and a very specific choreography. Within these settings, I see so called "interactions" which are limited to; merely standing side by side in a group, sitting in same vertical row again in a group photo where everyone does the same and dancing in specific close placements during some parts of a choreography. If by further evidence we mean JSM briefly resting her hand on KJK's back, I have to point out 2 things: 1) SJH is briefly doing the same with Se Chan, and others do it too, since it helps them keep their balance , 2) how exactly are fans accepting Spartace can interact with others if a casual touch between two colleagues and friends is considered suspicious?

Now to imply that JSM intentionally tried and succeeded in separating Spartace for the short time the photoshooting lasted, entails a number of things: 1) that she is intentionally ignoring production's instructions on where to stand/sit , 2) that, if Spartace are lovers, she is attempting to create a rift between the couple, 3) that, if Spartace are just friends, she is trying to glue on KJK during an official photoshoot at a fanmeeting when she has all the time in the world to do that in private without exposing herself, 4) that all these are happening during their work time - yes a fun occasion indeed, but still it's work time for them, it's a time they have to be professional and comply with the directions they are given and their contracts. I hope you do realise now that, when stripped off anxiety and put into perspective, all these theories about JSM getting inbetween Spartace sound, politely put, unsubstantial.

Seriously, I encourage you to keep sharing your thoughts. If anything, it may help others to maintain a clear mind as well, because it's guaranteed there will be several ups and downs until Spartace formalise their relationship or go public with others.

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I'm sorry to say but the SA fandom's obsession with JSM (at least on instagram where I see it more) is making all of us in general seem like a bunch of haters to non-shippers. Both JSM and KJK have already established that they are just new friends starting to get close. No one seems to have a problem with SJH getting close and touchy with YSC recently but a lot have been hating on JSM for the same thing with KJK. 

 

For me, people are welcome to talk about their doubts and rants in this forum, but of course other people are free to reply as well. Perhaps sometimes when we feel doubtful about our ships, we tend to take it out on other people whom we feel are "separating" them, but that's not fair to the other person. 

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Goosebumps when the first video for opening is spartace, spartace eps (21).

 

2010 : Spartace moments

2011 : like dejavu for spartace watching YJS and female guest doing bugy jump

2012 : this eps when KJK proud announce to SJH he is succeed to eliminated the male guest. Ji Hyo aa I did it ! We did it !

2013 : When SJH doing bugy jump in Macau.

2014 : swimming pool eps.

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After fan meeting finished, they have a lil party in 401 restaurant as usual ...

And SJH's style really like KJK's syle, first i look i though that kjk . lol . my bad .

Based on Code knust insta story, only SA didn;t look it & as always have a delulu for it :wub:

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Based on Code knust insta story, only SA didn;t look it & as always have a delulu for it ​​​​​​​
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2 hours ago, Regita M. P said:

After fan meeting finished, they have a lil party in 401 restaurant as usual ...

And SJH's style really like KJK's syle, first i look i though that kjk . lol . my bad .

Based on Code knust insta story, only SA didn;t look it & as always have a delulu for it :wub:

KJK was suffering from back pains hence him not participating in their mini celebrations...

 

 

]Translation]:

Fan: "How is your back? Is it still painful?"

 

JK: "I'm fine. I'm fine"

 

 

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