[Drama 2013] Thorn Flower / Spine Flower 가시꽃

[Auntie Mame]

Triton823 said: Believe it or not i used to just read forums and not participate. Ive always been interested in korean culture and some how ot hooked on kdrama.

I do love baduy's analysis because of the depth of pivotal scenes. It only adds to my curiosity of the korean culture and people.

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Triton823 said:Believe it or not i used to just read forums and not participate. Ive always been interested in korean culture and some how ot hooked on kdrama.
I do love baduy's analysis because of the depth of pivotal scenes. It only adds to my curiosity of the korean culture and people.
Yes same here this is the first time to participate in a forum, alsohave interest in Korean culture and like all of us LOVE KDramas (some exceptions err)...I discovered this forum when looking for recaps on (Glass Mask and Ohlala couple) Genie's recaps where also great but these 2 Kdramas had frustrating endings ... both had us seat and wait for the best ending and punishment and then BADU!!! Bad endings...so i hope i didn't chose yet another drama with a disappointing ending to follow ... 
This drama keep us frustrated and guessing that is why i am still here ... but i am almost sure Granny's house will be the happy gathering place at the end of the drama..
Baduy's insights and analysis are indeed great!! Love to read them as not been watching this week...

[Guest yukiyoshinori]

CultureMany kdrama fans think Asian cultures are same as western culture.Example: Last week @ dramabeans someone posted how stupid kdrama were because the raped character didn't go to the police.The head of ABC News Asia did just that and she was laughed out of the police station. This was less than a year ago.
Recently, kdrama has been on a crusade to change Korea's culture of rape. Another example is from my Ewah alumni magazine.Ewah (historical women's college}. They tell their parents not to worry about their daughters and rape, because they all get a whistleand are taught NOT to resist the rapist. They means that they won't go to jail for 8 years for assaulting the rapist. There was no rape so he is not jailed.
A female K-film maker was jailed for protesting on behalf of women's rights. All 9 of her cellmates were serving 6 years for leaving their abusive husbands.The laws have been changed for the United Nations but as you can see by the ABC woman, the culture has not.
The kdrama "I Miss You" is based on the recent rape of an 8 year old girl who was brutally beaten to death. Rape is not a severe crime, like abandoning your abusive husband and if he has a college degree, he can appeal for community service and get it.
College Degree is a big thing in Korea. See the movie, Take Care of My Cat.Getting a graduate degree in USA  is huge. Never mind that it's a small low ranked college, business want him (not her) as their show piece. I have a cousin like that and he could barely speak English when he got his MBA.
K Women without college go to English school and try to marry her teacher. This class of women are usually let go as they get near 30 and they have to find a husband who can support her after 30. My friend is trying to start a store for her old age of 30 yrs, when she is let go by the k-bank she works at. I keep telling her to come to USA even tho she don't know English. She has no idea how different it is in USA and the economic opportunities here for women like her. Green cards are available for tourist who over stay their visa, I am in both Chinese and Korean communities.
I am NOT a KorAm. I'm from Korea.
~yuki

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[Guest shelbytan]

baduy

said:

[baduy]

I don't know what's going on with the official c-subbed version. Youku just put up ep 74, so it hasn't been abandoned altogether, (and ep 74  will doubtless appear before long on all those sites that "borrow" their streams from youku, if it hasn't already done so) but there's no explanation of why it was so late appearing, or why the other still missing episodes aren't there. The main episode listing for the drama just says 每周二至周六晨更新. i.e that the updates are daily, Tuesday to Saturday morning  (=the day after the show airs in Korea) , and until recently that was mostly true, but not for the past week or so.
As for the inquiry about the OST, the answer is already in this thread. Obviously, anyone is free and welcome to read or skip whatever posts they wish in a soompi thread, but those of us who see this as indeed a thread (= a connected set of ongoing exchanges in which we share our evolving thoughts on this drama) can't be expected to supply the same information over and over to people who post without looking at what's gone before.

[baduy]

I have to deal with various other stuff this afternoon, so I'm not sure when I'll get to post properly about today's episode, but I didn't want to deprive those who can't follow all the Korean of the wondrous words Nam Joon yells at Evil Mom when she comes crawling to the Jinkung HQ in the hope of persuading Soo Ji's mother to prop up up Taekang (and to let Soo Ji resume her directorship, after Hyeok Min has in effect "fired" Jennifer from her only recently restored post at Taekang to make way for a (pigs-might-fly) hoped-for return by Soo Ji and her Mama's financial backing). "I feel like chucking you out of that window right now", he yells at her. 

[Guest daochon]

baduy said: I don't know what's going on with the official c-subbed version. Youku just put up ep 74, so it hasn't been abandoned altogether, (and ep 74  will doubtless appear before long on all those sites that "borrow" their streams from youku, if it hasn't already done so) but there's no explanation of why it was so late appearing, or why the other still missing episodes aren't there. The main episode listing for the drama just says 每周二至周六晨更新. i.e that the updates are daily, Tuesday to Saturday morning  (=the day after the show airs in Korea) , and until recently that was mostly true, but not for the past week or so.


As for the inquiry about the OST, the answer is already in this thread. Obviously, anyone is free and welcome to read or skip whatever posts they wish in a soompi thread, but those of us who see this as indeed a thread (= a connected set of ongoing exchanges in which we share our evolving thoughts on this drama) can't be expected to supply the same information over and over to people who post without looking at what's gone before.

[Guest d0137]

@Yukiyoshinori It is sad when you hear or read of how they address and deal with cases like domestic violence or rape or pedophilia... ridiculous, is basically saying rape is not a crime just play along with the rapist and he shall let you live  so no problem!! what kind of law is this??  X(
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[baduy]

No time to cover everything in today's episode (79) but fortunately a lot of it is fairly obvious, especially if taken in conjunction with the clues provided by the text preview published yesterday.

Coming back from the genetic testing department, Jennifer finds the President's bed empty, and alerts Evil Mom. They discover that he's managed to get into a wheelchair and to his study desk where he he is looking through his account books, and that he has a cellphone showing a recent calls to  Yang Hee (and also calls to and from ex-detective Seo and his lawyer). Evil Mom decides that he's plotting to decamp to Hawaii with Yang Hee and his hidden stash of money while the company goes to ruin. He tells her he will not be sent to a mental hospital, but she replies that since he's clearly insane, that's the only place for him.

Taking him back to his bed (although his wife tells Jennifer to let him struggle his own way back there, since he got out of bed by his own efforts) Jennifer, in soft and apparently gentle (though far from deferential) tones tells him she decided to see if his claims to be her father were true, and so had a test carried out. She goads him by saying he must be really anxious to know if and how her attitude to him will change if he is indeed her father. She now has the test results, she adds, so his curiosity will soon be satisfied, but not just yet... She wants him to stew a little longer, with him no doubt nurturing a desperate hope that the dire hatred she has expressed towards him so far will be mitigated to some degree if the test has indeed established that she's his daughter. It's not till the very end of the episode that he, and we, find out what effect the revelation has had on her.

Evil Mom tells Hyeok Min about her suspicions of what his father is planning and he orders ex-detective Seo to track down and capture Yang Hee. Seo is skeptical about the notion of the President and Yang Hee decamping, but he agrees to do as he's told.

Jennifer is thinking about how she can ease Eun Seok away from the people he has come to regard as his family and take charge of his upbringing in a way that will encourage him to overcome, rather than just live with, his disabilities (she fears that Granny, in particular, is far too ready to accept Eun Seok's condition as an inescapable fate he must become resigned to). She goes clothes shopping for him and picks out in particular a bright yellow anorak, smiling happily at the her picture of how he will look in it. But when she takes her purchases to the bakery, the first thing Seon Yeong does is look askance at the anorak and tell Jennifer that yellow isn't a suitable color for Eun Seok to wear, making no secret of her belief that she knows better than Jennifer what's good for "her" son, and that whatever may be the case where Jennifer supposedly was brought up, it isn't wise in Korea to dress a child with disabilities in a way that might draw people's attention to him. It's plain that this isn't just a matter of clothing either, because Granny and Seon Yeong talk about their attempts to find a suiitable institution for children with disabilities for Eun Soek to attend, pointing out that in Korea children with his condition aren't admitted to schools for "normal" children (indeed, on an earlier occasion, long before the child's true parentage was revealed, Granny had been saying there wasn't really much point in sending Eun Seok to any sort of school at all). Gently but firmly, Jennifer says that if he really can't be accepted into a normal school in Korea, then she won't hesitate to take him away with her to America and bring him up there, where attitudes to disability are much more positive and he will have a real chance of growing up like any other child of his age.. This doesn't go down at all well, and nor does Jennifer's equally firm insistence that Granny must start referring to her in Eun Seok's presence as his mother.

But Jennifer's real struggle on that score is with Eun Soek himself, who by now has learned a few more words, and now determinedly reserves "Mommy" for Seon Yeong, forcing Jennifer to realize that she has a long and painful road to go down before the child will ever call her "Mommy" and mean it. And it's his "Mommy" Seon Yeong that he calls out for when he gets a fright from a passing cyclist. But there's an even bigger problem coming Jennifer's way where her attempts to build a new relationship with her child are concerned. Soo Ji's spies have sent photos of their current outing to Soo Ji, who after sharing her puzzlement and indignation with Ji Min, forwards them to Hyeok Min, who is just as puzzled, but his puzzlement is combined with fury, with consequences that soon emerge.

Before we see them, however, comes the scene anticipated in the text preview, with Evil Mom attempting to buy Je Joon out of his marriage by offering him funding to make a movie of his choice, and being told to her dismay that standing by his wife and child means much more to him that his former dreams of being a successfuly movie director.

Jennifer is shocked, when she brings Eun Seok back to the bakery, to find Hyeok Min waiting for her, and telling her never to come to this place again, speaking of both the house and its inhabitants to their faces with unmasked contempt and insisting that Jennifer leaves with him at once, ignoring what she says about her fondness for the child and his family. When Jennifer obeys without any real resistance, as she has to do if she is to keep her secret safe, the family are clearly having their thoughts about whether someone who keeps that sort of company, for whatever motives, is really the right person to bring up a child. Granny suggests chucking the traditional bowl of salt after them, meant to drive away evil characters and prevent their return, but for once, this ritual isn't actually carried out.

But Hyeok Min has another shock in store for Jennifer. Back in her office at the company, he tells her it's time she stopped working there and became a full-time housewife and that as of today she's no longer to come to the company. His pretext is that he wants to relieve her of any stress that might be bad for their baby, but Jennifer tells herself that's obviously not his true reason and wonders what that might be. She soon gets the answer when ex-detective Seo comes in to ask her exactly when she plans to clear her desk (and he's plainly asking what time today, rather than what day this week...) hinting that she has to go ASAP as part of a plan to ease the company's increasingly perilous financial situation. She reflects that the only way she could keep a foothold in the company is if she was in a position to put large amounts of cash into it right away, but the truth is she doesn't actually have any real money left.

Her reflections are interrupted by a call from Seo Won who invites her over to his office to talk about something that concerns her. She isn't sure what it is, but she senses trouble. While Jennifer is on her way to Seo Won's office we get a brief scene of Soo Ji meeting her investigator contact and being told that unfortunately the fingerprints on the items she filched from Jennifer's room weren't clear enough to get a positive match with any records. Unabashed, Soo Ji say in that case she'll get another, better set of prints next time and get back in touch with him when she's done that.

What Seo Won is telling Jennifer, in his habitual indirect but nasty way, is that he's decided that since Ji Min and her family won't let him have his way he's decided to pull the rug from under all of them. He plans to issue indictments against both Hyoek Min and his mother and make public all the dirt on Taekang that his father has accumulated over the years and is now prepared to have revealed since he's reconciled to more or less permanent exile anyway. But he presents himself as chivalrously offering Jennifer advance warning so she can take his advice to break off with Hyuk Min, divorce him as soon as she can and put a safe distance between herself and the coming shipwreck. She sees plainly enough that this is not meant as any sort of kindness to her but merely as a further blow to Hyoek Min, and she doesn't give Seo Won the satisfaction of thinking his ruse will work on her. She assures him that she joined the Kang family because she truly loves Hyeok Min. Indeed, she tells him. although it's not yet known outside the inner family circle, she's pregnant with his child, and she's sure the birth of their baby will overcome any doubts his family may have about her. She warns him not to write off Hyoek Min or his father just yet.

Evil Mom is on her second mission of the day, which turns out to be even more of a failure than the first, with an even more humiliating outcome. After nursing an empty coffee cup on Soo Ji mother's outer office for close on two hours, she finally gets to talk to her, only to be told that she has neither the time nor the wish to dusciss anything with her whatever, least of all the idea that Soo Ji should resume her position at Taekang and bring Jinkung's backing back to the floundering business. Soo Ji's mother instructs Nam Joon to get rid of the unwanted visitor, which he does with relish, saying that unless she leaves he'll call security to get her humiliatingly thrown out, and that in fact he feels a strong urge to chuck her right out the window rather than letting her find her way out of the door, at which she decides she'd better do the latter while she still can.

Je Joon arrives home just as Ji Min is leaving for a photoshoot and asks her has she any idea what's behind the way her mother showed up at the company, though he doesn't reveal the offer she made him. Ji Min asks him in turn where he was yesterday when she couldn't find him in his office. She knows the answer very well of course, since she tailed him to the bakery. She pretends to be satisfied by his vague explanation that he must have been somewhere else in the company building, but his evasiveness tips her back in the direction of suspecting that he is plotting something sinister. That makes her all the more inclined to accept Seo Won's invitation, delivered by phone after he shows up at the photoshoot location, to visit him at his apartment,  though she's not yet decided whether to accept it, knowing full well what going to his apartment, rather than his office or the Blue Moon, inplies.

Jennifer is in her secret apartment, looking at her family photograph amd deciding it's time to tell the President the results of the test, not to put him out of his misery but to plunge him into it much more deeply.  She guesses that, after the President discovered his wife's and elder son's hostility and contempt towards him through what they said in his presence when they thought he was unconscious, he is now playing the paternity card as a desperate move to gain a badly-needed ally, hoping that Jennifer will trade some kind of assistance to him in return for him keeping her identity secret. She wastes no further time in disillusioning him on that score. In a sequence which is a further instance of this writer's fondness for drawing parallels, she engineers a reprise of the way she lured Kim Baek Chun into confessing to her the full details of how and why he killed her mother before she lured him into the fatal trap, a confession which he hoped might win him some leniency but which she extracted from him only to raise her hatred of him to the highest possible pitch. So now she goes to the President's bedside and says there's just one thing she's come to ask him. "You say I'm your daughter. So what abomination did you inflict on my mother that lets you claim that?" He begs her forgiveness before giving the answer she has already guessed only too correctly, but her response is to promise that her plans she already had for making him and his associates suffer were nothing to what she's now determined to mobilize to ensure that he and his whole family experience prolonged agonies way beyond their worst fears.


Episode 80 text preview.

A paternity test establishes that President Kang is Jennifer's biological father,
but discovering that he raped her mother makes her even more vindictive towards him than before.

Ji Min, anxious about what Je Joon may be doing,  finally agrees to visit Seo Won in his apartment, but Seo Won only increases her confusion as well as telling her lies that turn her even more against Jennifer.

Nam Joon tells Soo Ji that now that Jinkung has definitively broken with Taekang it's time she gave up on Hyeok Min, but she replies that if her renewed attempts to get Jennifer's fingerprints reveal who Jennifer really is, the whole situation may change.

[Guest d0137]

Good news for Jennifer :
1- She her son and the lies she was told for 7 years as regards to him2- Gained 1 half - brother that is a nice person (Seong Min)
Bad news for Jennifer :Everything and everyone else

[baduy]

d0137 said: Good news for Jennifer :
1- She her son and the lies she was told for 7 years as regards to him2- Gained 1 half - brother that is a nice person (Seong Min)
Bad news for Jennifer :Everything and everyone else

[baduy]

OK, to put everyone out of their misery....

But this is a MAJOR SPOILER for anyone trying to avoid them....

The reason why we weren't allowed to see anything in the previous two episodes apart from Jennifer leaving the genetic testing department while we heard a suspiciously truncated voiced-over snippet of the test results was that she had TWO tests done at the same time. Let's hope she got a quantity discount. One test used Eun Seok's DNA, the other using the President's. What we actually heard her being told was that it was 100% certain that Eun Sok was her child (presumably she wanted to get that certified in case of any legal difficulties over custody). But today we see her then being told that it's equally certain that the persons from whom the other set of DNA samples come (=Jennifer and the President) aren't in any way related. But she pretended to the President that the results were otherwise to get him to confess to the rape and then to torment him at the thought that she was deliberately continuing an incestuous relationship with his son and he can't do anything about it.

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Omo! Love it! That was a good one she pulled! Hope she pulls something on Soo Ji (A LA QUEEN OF AMBITION) and she doesn't find who Jennifer is at least for now).. Ji Mi might find out earlier about the kid and that is BAD NEWS since she might not let it go knowing that he is her husband's son with Se Mi whom she envied in most aspects.
Thanks for the insight! Very happy to confirm they are not related to her =D>She can take her revenge without hesitation >

The only real good thing that happened to her is having found her son! Better take him to the US A.S.A.P.

[baduy]

I already posted the bombshell at the start of today's episode 80 while the episode was still airing. Although I generally don't approve of real-time spoilers (especially by people who understand even less Korean than I do, yet who seem to be strangely drawn to instant recapping, often with seriously misleading results) I couldn't resist breaking my own rules in this case.

Anyway, to sum up what's now been revealed:
a) The DNA test Jennifer commissioned (which was not the one the voiceover was referring to) actually proved she isn't the President's daughter (though the editing deliberately gave us the opposite impression, and the jtbc caption writers in the Youtube channel told a barefaced lie about the content of that scene, which, in all innocence though not without a grain of skepticism, I duly repeated here, complete with multiple exclamation marks)
Jennifer deliberately kept the President in suspense about the result of the test, knowing that the fact that the President was so adamant that he was her father proved that he must have forced himself on her mother.
c) She tricked him into confessing the rape and begging her forgiveness (which of course, he would badly like to have, since he needs every ally he can get to escape the padded cell his wife and eldest son have in mind for him) but she scorned his plea and lied to him that she was indeed his daughter, but made it very clear that that, along with his confession, had only raised her hatred of him to an even higher pitch and she relished the prospect of making him witness his son and heir in an incestuous union he was powerless to do anything about as an additional torment to what she had already planned for him.

Most of the rest of the episode is either bascially clear from the visuals or from the outline the text preview provided, especially the visit of Nam Hee to the mansion and the offensive reception she gets from Evil Mom which I don't think I need to explain in any detail.

Ji Min is still torn between her belief in Je Joon's good nature and the insidious suggestions by Seo Won that her husband's apparent devotion is just a cover for a vengeance plot. In Seo Won's apartment, he not only goes over once again his arguments that Je Joon is dangerous and she should get rid of him as soon as possible, but plays another cunning trick aimed at destabalizing Ji Min. Whereas earlier in the day had been pretending to be concerned about Jennifer's welfare, advising her to break with Hyeok Min and leave as soon as possible to escape the collapse of Taekang, he now tells Ji Min that he suspects that Jennifer is planning to do precisely that and that she's just a gold digger who'll leave Hyeok Min and his family in the lurch once she realizes he's doomed. He claims she's already hinted that she's planning to do a bunk back to the States as soon as a favorable chance comes up (which is of course the exact opposite of what Jennifer told him her intentions were).

It turns out that there was nothing sinister about Yang Hee's disappearance. She had intended to live the rest of her life in voluntary hiding so not as cause more trouble for Seong Min, but she's finds she can't bear not to see him, and she calls Seon Yeong asking her to arrange a meeting. Seon Yeong has no idea where to find him, so she rings Nam Hee, who knows he's still outside the bakery, hoping to see her and make up for his stepmother's grossly offensive treatment of her. Nam Hee brings him along, then she and Seon Yeong leave mother and son together.

While Soo Ji is telling Nam Joon that the she failed to get a usable set of fingerprints from Jennifer last time, but that she's going to procure some more of Jennifer's prints, and this time she'll make sure they're usable, Ji Min has arried back home and is furiously asking her mother what she was thinking of trying to bribe Je Joon into divorcing her, before going to ask Je Joon  why he put up with his mother talking such nonsense without telling her. When he replies that he kept quiet about her mother's offer precisely because it was nonsense to think he'd abandon his family for the sake of getting movie finance, Ji Min demands to know why he went to the bakery the previous day, and why he didn't tell her where he'd been when she asked. He gives the same explanation he offered ex-detective Seo, namely that he was exploring the possible locations for company commercials. Min is thrown into even deeper confusion.

Nam Joon tells Seon Yeong about Soo Ji's plans to get more fingerprints from Jennifer and asks her to pass on a warning to her. In turn Seon Yeong tells him about Yang Hee's re-emergence, her reunion with Seong Min and that the President seems to be hoping that Yang Hee will visit and somehow help him.

Hyeok Min gets home the worse for drink, obviously even more worried than ever about the company's financial plight, but he tries to make light of things in his mother's hearing. Jennifer pretends to sympathize and says she's been in touch with her bankers in America and arranged for a large sum to be transferred from her supposed fortune which will bail out the company, but unfortunately it can't be released for a month yet.  She encourages him to hold on until then, but once he's out of sight she's plainly worried that he may indeed manage to do just that, keeping the company afloat long enough for her true financial position, and hence her uselessness to him and the company, to be exposed.

Next day at the mansion, Seong Min is encouraging his father to try to stand with the aid of a walking frame, when his father asks him to bring his mother to see him. He says he can't do that, because it would cause huge trouble all round.

Soo Ji ups her fake baby bump by a further layer and comes on her fingerprint quest, having the nerve to remark to Jennifer that her tummy seems to be staying remarkably flat in comparison with hers. Seon Yeong's text message warning that Soo Ji is on a mission to get more fingerprint evidence comes too late. By the time Jennifer realizes what Soo Ji is up to, she's gone and has taken Jennifer's nice freshly-fingerprinted teacup with her. But before she has time to call the crockery cops, Jennifer gets a call from Yang Hee, who says the President has sent for her and she's right outside the house, whereupon Jennifer lets her in. This of course gets immediately reported to ex-detective Seo, and he in turn tips off Hyeok Min, who leaves for home at once in a rage.

Yang Hee asks the President why he sent for her: she thought she had made it quite clear that she never intended or wanted to see him again. But he begs her to get him away from this place. At first, she refuses to consider doing anything of the kind, saying she's no intention whatever of becoming his woman again, but he manages to get across that he fears he'll be killed if he stays here and begs her to save his life. Presumably having been persuaded that his terror is well-founded, Seong Min and Yang Hee are wheeling him out of the house when Hyeok Min arrives, and the huge row Seong Min had predicted indeed breaks out. I must admit that I found the bit where the President has another convulsive fit and tumbles from his wheelchair onto the floor was one of the funniest bits I've seen in a drama for some time, but that probably just shows how this show corrupts viewers' morals, just like all the folk who've complained about it to the Broadcasting Standards Commission said it would.

There's no text preview for ep 81. I think whoever writes the previews went into hiding in case any of the millions of people who were fooled about the DNA test trickery are out for revenge.

[elegance1]

It was so satisfying to watch Hyeok Min getting punched straight to the face! Finally, some one stands up to that over-masculine man.

[baduy]

elegance1 said: It was so satisfying to watch Hyeok Min getting punched straight to the face! Finally, some one stands up to that over-masculine man.

[Guest atomickitty]

baduy said: elegance1 said: It was so satisfying to watch Hyeok Min getting punched straight to the face! Finally, some one stands up to that over-masculine man.

[Guest atomickitty]

@yukiyoshinori
I'm watching Orphan Black now because I am a signature stalker. You should take responsibility!!!

[Guest d0137]

@baduy Yes i can see that happening even though he was defending his mother...
@atomickittysaid::My first thought was, "This wouldn't fly in a Korean drama. The teacher would have told the student to love her parents forever and ever, amen"
) totally! that is how some bad endings happen in K dramas...
Orphan black sounds like a good one, where can i watch it?