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I love when he winks at the end and shows those cute crow's feet wrinkles :wub:.

BTW- has anyone bothered to explain the cuts on OHJ's face in TMWYS?? - I have not watched the last eps too closely, maybe I missed something?

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@corey They were not explained in the drama. The production said they symbolized his “wounds” still being fresh. Something like that. 

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So, I've been watching "Hello, monster". It's a nice enough show with Jang Nara. I will say, in the beginning she was trying to act like the tough cop, which really didn't suit her (not to mention how ridiculous it is to see her take down guys twice her size), but later she returned to being her sweet cute self so she became better. BTW, I wonder, I have never seen any of her other shows- can she do any other character or are all her characters the same?

Anyway, the show is about a brilliant arrogant profiler (are there any other kind?! :D) played by Seo In-Guk and of course the show is filled with serial killers. Since this is not an OCN show, there's even romance in the show! The problem is, I really don't buy the romance between these two characters. Maybe I'm biased, but it feels like the two characters are superimposed on the same image, they don't even feel like they are actually in the same frame. Not sure why, maybe it's that the actor is not that good. He just feels detached... 

Anyway, this made me think- if I'm allowing myself to fantasize on a second season with OHJ, what if he met a character played by Jang Nara? What would that look like? Dangerous OHJ meeting a sweet and gentle character played by Jang Nara? We already know they have crazy good chemistry and she is really comfortable with him, so I think they can do something really interesting together... 

 

Anyway, just fantasizing... 

 

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@Biology Lesson Jang Nara, as much as I love her, I haven’t watched most of her dramas so I don’t know how different she has been in different roles. But I know she didn’t get too much love for her role in Hello Monster. In fact, I heard Park Bo Gum got most of the attention for that drama. 

 

In later dramas JNR has enjoyed more success, both in ratings, awards, good reviews of her performance with “Go back couple” (on my list to watch some day) “The Last Empress” (sounds too makjang for my taste), VIP (I heard she was great but Im not too curious about this subject matter) Just superficially I get the feeling these characters were different but still, have that JNR signature 

 

I did watch many episodes of One more happy ending, and her character there was interesting, she had a great look, she was elegant and had a mature vibe, but the drama itself lost me after a while (way too many scenes with the boring second lead) However in this role, while I never saw traces of “Mi Young”, I did see “JNR”. In fact I feel like “Mi Young” is her most distinctive character (as in, she feels like a person separate from JNR) but, its only a guess based on watching clips etc. 

 

She needs to play an evil character. Maybe someone who looks like an angel but is actually horrible, ha! I can imagine her. 
 

 

 

 

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52 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson Jang Nara, as much as I love her, I haven’t watched most of her dramas so I don’t know how different she has been in different roles. But I know she didn’t get too much love for her role in Hello Monster. In fact, I heard Park Bo Gum got most of the attention for that drama. 

He did?! Maybe it was justified. I think he is the only one that doesn't feel fake... But, now that I've reached episode 14, I'm completely bored! It happens a lot to me in these type of shows that have both suspense and romance. The first episodes are all about establishing the mystery and developing the romance, so they are usually interesting, romantic and funny. But by episode 12 or 13, the love story has already been established and the show usually doesn't know what to do with it, so it becomes stale and boring. As to the mystery- now they need to drag it out so it becomes convoluted and illogical. This is exactly what happened to me with Hotel De Luna, that I dropped by the 14th episode when I realized I didn't care about any of what was going on, and in Terius behind you, which I finished but was bored by it by the end...

 

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In later dramas JNR has enjoyed more success, both in ratings, awards, good reviews of her performance with “Go back couple” (on my list to watch some day) “The Last Empress” (sounds too makjang for my taste), VIP (I heard she was great but Im not too curious about this subject matter) Just superficially I get the feeling these characters were different but still, have that JNR signature 

 

I did watch many episodes of One more happy ending, and her character there was interesting, she had a great look, she was elegant and had a mature vibe, but the drama itself lost me after a while (way too many scenes with the boring second lead) However in this role, while I never saw traces of “Mi Young”, I did see “JNR”. In fact I feel like “Mi Young” is her most distinctive character (as in, she feels like a person separate from JNR) but, its only a guess based on watching clips etc. 

I will admit that even though I loved her in FTLY, I feel no urge to watch any of the shows you've mentioned. So what you are saying JNR is kinda like Gong Hyo-jin, essentially playing the same character over and over again, which, I guess, is what most stars do... I think MY may have been so different from JNR because, as she herself said, JH was very involved in the development of  MY.

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She needs to play an evil character. Maybe someone who looks like an angel but is actually horrible, ha! I can imagine her. 

Seeing her try to play a tough cop and looking very fake while doing it, I'm not sure she has the range to play an evil character, though again, I've seen her in only two shows...

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24 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

I will admit that even though I loved her in FTLY, I feel no urge to watch any of the shows you've mentioned. So what you are saying JNR is kinda like Gong Hyo-jin, essentially playing the same character over and over again, which, I guess, is what most stars do... I think MY may have been so different from JNR because, as she herself said, JH was very involved in the development of  MY.

Seeing her try to play a tough cop and looking very fake while doing it, I'm not sure she has the range to play an evil character, though again, I've seen her in only two shows...

I thought Last Empress was different from her norm and interesting.  She start off naive and toughen up/more serious later in a believable way. 

 

VIP I just can't finish, but maybe that's more storyline.  Think I lost interest after ep 2.

 

I'm open to her I guess for OHJ, but not sure she's the best fit.  Don't get me wrong I love their chemistry before, but not sure on match for that role.

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@Biology Lesson I know what you mean. I think she is a good actress, very expressive and can make you feel what she feels. But Im not sure about her versatility. She can show a wide range of emotions but can she play different “personas”? That is what I’d like to see. She tried to get out of her comfort zone with Hello Monster but it didn’t quite work. I have the feeling she could have the range and be convincing but she needs to take bigger risks. If I ever watch “Go back couple” I’ll let you know if I see a different JNR. I do feel she has the potential but maybe not a risk taker? Or maybe she doesn’t get radically different offers. Or maybe we are judging by appearances because we haven’t really watched her dramas :lol: My issue is, I love her but her dramas have not attracted me (except Go back couple because I read some really enticing reviews and she talked very passionately about that role) 

 

P.S The evil character would have to be someone who “appears” to be nice. Let me think of an example from an actual drama or movie. 

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5 hours ago, phoenix24 said:

I thought Last Empress was different from her norm and interesting.  She start off naive and toughen up/more serious later in a believable way. 

 

VIP I just can't finish, but maybe that's more storyline.  Think I lost interest after ep 2.

I didn't even try any of her shows. I guess I am only interested in her when she is with JH, and even then... I still haven't watched Bright Girl's Success (in the clips that I've seen she looks very annoying) or Old goodbye (looks depressing).

 

5 hours ago, phoenix24 said:

I'm open to her I guess for OHJ, but not sure she's the best fit.  Don't get me wrong I love their chemistry before, but not sure on match for that role.

You might be right. I actually was thinking about a show that might be dark and sexy, in which he meets a woman to match him. Maybe not as scary as he is, but someone that wouldn't back away from him. In TMWYS he got mostly respect and no one challenged OHJ. No one commented on his behavior (except that one time when he insulted CSY, but that was that one time). Even his fiance in that one scene we got was very gentle with him. I'd like to see a character that gets into his face. Not annoyingly, like many fl characters do, but to just challenge him on his behavior. The only problem is- Kdramas don't do sexy...

Maybe JNR is not suitable for that, but I mentioned her name mostly because she was very comfortable with JH. I recently saw this random clip from a show, and there was kiss scene there that I guess was supposed to be passionate, but you could sense the intense discomfort from the actress. Even though she is trying to act and look like she wants to kiss the actor, her body betrays her here and you see how her head is kinda trying to arch away from him, making this whole kiss scene very uncomfortable, almost like an attack. And this is not the first time I saw that behavior from Korean actresses, also in Hotel Del Luna, the actress, that was trying to pretend to be all sassy and sexy, in the kiss scenes you could see her entire body trying to get away. Very uncomfortable. 

Now, I've never seen an actress behave like with JH, but it needs to be more than that. In order to sell a love story, an actress should feel comfortable enough to touch an actor as part of her acting, if to comfort or from affection, and not many Korean actresses will do that. This is why I thought about her, as she is very comfortable with JH.  

 

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5 hours ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson I know what you mean. I think she is a good actress, very expressive and can make you feel what she feels. But Im not sure about her versatility. She can show a wide range of emotions but can she play different “personas”? That is what I’d like to see. She tried to get out of her comfort zone with Hello Monster but it didn’t quite work. I have the feeling she could have the range and be convincing but she needs to take bigger risks. If I ever watch “Go back couple” I’ll let you know if I see a different JNR. I do feel she has the potential but maybe not a risk taker? Or maybe she doesn’t get radically different offers. Or maybe we are judging by appearances because we haven’t really watched her dramas :lol: My issue is, I love her but her dramas have not attracted me (except Go back couple because I read some really enticing reviews and she talked very passionately about that role) 

I think it's her doll-like look that makes me uninterested in watching her shows... So I think you are right- I'm mostly judging from appearance :) But In "Hello, monster" her tough girl act was really bad, so I do have that to base myself, I guess... Also can you tell me, why in Korean shows, girls are often showed to be sloppy and disgusting in terms of cleanliness?! is that supposed to be funny?

  

5 hours ago, dramafan33 said:

P.S The evil character would have to be someone who “appears” to be nice. Let me think of an example from an actual drama or movie. 

This idea can be interesting... :) 

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13 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

I didn't even try any of her shows. I guess I am only interested in her when she is with JH, and even then... I still haven't watched Bright Girl's Success (in the clips that I've seen she looks very annoying) or Old goodbye (looks depressing).

 

You might be right. I actually was thinking about a show that might be dark and sexy, in which he meets a woman to match him. Maybe not as scary as he is, but someone that wouldn't back away from him. In TMWYS he got mostly respect and no one challenged OHJ. No one commented on his behavior (except that one time when he insulted CSY, but that was that one time). Even his fiance in that one scene we got was very gentle with him. I'd like to see a character that gets into his face. Not annoyingly, like many fl characters do, but to just challenge him on his behavior. The only problem is- Kdramas don't do sexy...

 

 

haha omg I was thinking same someone strong and intelligent.  Like you say not annoying, but she earn his respect and he admits that maybe her skill or whatever complement to his.  Someone that he might consult and perhaps understand his train of thought.  Because the nice girl warming cold guy has been done many times.

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34 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

 The only problem is- Kdramas don't do sexy...

[...] recently saw this random clip from a show, and there was kiss scene there that I guess was supposed to be passionate, but you could sense the intense discomfort from the actress. Even though she is trying to act and look like she wants to kiss the actor, her body betrays her here and you see how her head is kinda trying to arch away from him, making this whole kiss scene very uncomfortable, almost like an attack. And this is not the first time I saw that behavior from Korean actresses, also in Hotel Del Luna, the actress, that was trying to pretend to be all sassy and sexy, in the kiss scenes you could see her entire body trying to get away.

 

 

Have you thought that this behaviour of actresses is actually the result of PD's decision? I am watching "I'll go to you when the weather is nice" and at the end of ep. 8 there is a kiss - and someone posted BTS for the kiss scene in the drama thread. And there is a very revealing moment here. The leads are rehearsing the scene and Park Min Young only half-jokingly puts her hand at the side of her lead's face, only to be admonished by PD and she quickly takes away her hand back to the standard female pose for kissing in K-dramas (fist clenching, or at best, gripping the ML's sleeves or his shirt/jacket near his kidneys). So, PMY was trying to be sassy and sexy but PD did not allow that!!!!!

 

And watching this BTS made me realize just how horribly uncomfortable any kissing scenes are, no wonder JH does not want to do it any more.

 

On another note - I am at ep. 10 of My Country. I say, each and every character might have died so far several times over, lol. Bang Won in white blood-stained robes and loose hair! [swoons] And Hwi and Bang Won - my favourite JH couple so far I think. What chemistry these guys have [ROTFL]!

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@Biology Lesson I tried to look for good kisses in kdrama on youtube and I immediately got bored and annoyed lol On top of the fish kiss, open eyed surprised kiss, many times people need to be drunk in these scenes. I give up! I can’t even think of a good partner that would be willing to kiss JH properly, for fantasy purposes 

 

@corey Well, we don’t really know that JH doesn’t want to do kissing scenes anymore. It’s only a theory (which I don’t want to support! Lolol)

 

And YES #Banghwi FTW lol The way they looked at each other, was actually hotter than any kdrama kiss I’ve seen (sadly) I guess PDs can’t contain what the eyes want to say :lol: 

 

And ughhhh at that PD stopping PMY from making the scene better! That sucks!

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22 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

 

And YES #Banghwi FTW lol The way they looked at each other, was actually hotter than any kdrama kiss I’ve seen (sadly) I guess PDs can’t contain what the eyes want to say :lol: 

I think many people feel the same.  They always have these long silent moment stares and I'm thinking isn't that usually save for the main lead couple lol.  You guys are making me miss my country a bit now.

 

Have you guys seen newest one

 

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31 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

@Biology Lesson I tried to look for good kisses in kdrama on youtube and I immediately got bored and annoyed lol On top of the fish kiss, open eyed surprised kiss, many times people need to be drunk in these scenes. I give up! I can’t even think of a good partner that would be willing to kiss JH properly, for fantasy purposes

But have you checked the kiss in My Private Life? end of ep 9 beginning of ep 10? With PMY? The girl surely knows how to kiss! Please see it and tell me what you saw thought!

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@phoenix24 I loooove these FMV and I had not seen that last one! Awwwww Bangwon was so purrrrrrrfect!!! How sexy was this man! And yeah I’ve developed a Banghwi fever due to these videos lol

 

Here is another favorite one


And this one is nice too 

 

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7 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

purrrrrrrfect!!!

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfecto :lol:

 

Btw, I love how FTLY LG wore that white long cotton cardigan, it looks cute on him...I sort of want that cardigan as well. :)

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23 minutes ago, corey said:

But have you checked the kiss in My Private Life? end of ep 9 beginning of ep 10? With PMY? The girl surely knows how to kiss! Please see it and tell me what you saw thought!

Ok I went and looked for the kiss. It is definitely a good kiss for kdrama standards but I want MORE. I want more passion. Im glad she is not drunk and so glad that she touched him but there’s still some mechanical movements. It was nice and gentle (I suppose it suits the context) but I want a bit more rawwwr you know? I definitely want more :P 

 

@Sushimi By the end of FTLY Lee Gun’s look was a royal mess again and I didn’t care anymore. He could do no wrong in my eyes :wub:

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1 hour ago, corey said:

Have you thought that this behaviour of actresses is actually the result of PD's decision? I am watching "I'll go to you when the weather is nice" and at the end of ep. 8 there is a kiss - and someone posted BTS for the kiss scene in the drama thread. And there is a very revealing moment here. The leads are rehearsing the scene and Park Min Young only half-jokingly puts her hand at the side of her lead's face, only to be admonished by PD and she quickly takes away her hand back to the standard female pose for kissing in K-dramas (fist clenching, or at best, gripping the ML's sleeves or his shirt/jacket near his kidneys). So, PMY was trying to be sassy and sexy but PD did not allow that!!!!!

 

And watching this BTS made me realize just how horribly uncomfortable any kissing scenes are, no wonder JH does not want to do it any more.

That sounds incredibly stupid! Why would a PD do that?! Is it because of fear of censorship? Maybe in that specific scene that you saw the woman was supposed to be shy, maybe it was a first kiss? Don't know. I swear I can't understand the little girl, virginal obsession that K-dramas seem to have!

On the other hand, you can look at the BTS of some scenes in FTLY, and it's very clear that they are trying to JNR feel more comfortable with doing a kiss scene (yeah, she was comfortable with JH, but not that comfortable... :) ). Like I've just seen the BTS of the kiss after the auction, and it's clear that at first they were going to do a pretend kiss from how they were setting up the kiss (JH's hair hiding their faces). I have no idea what led to her doing that actual kiss. Also, in the BTS of the kiss at the press conference, you can see that MY was supposed to grab LG's face, but JNR couldn't bring herself to do it (at one point she grabbed his ears :)  ), so at the end she just grabbed his shoulders. So I guess in depends on the PD...

But I don't think in those specific scenes that I've seen it was a direction decision, because the scenes were supposed to be passionate. It was the actresses body language that revealed their discomfort.

 

 

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36 minutes ago, dramafan33 said:

@phoenix24 I loooove these FMV and I had not seen that last one! Awwwww Bangwon was so purrrrrrrfect!!! How sexy was this man! And yeah I’ve developed a Banghwi fever due to these videos lol

My only problem with this ship is that Hwi was so boring... We were being told that this guy is a fierce a and loyal warrior, but his acting never reflected that. It was Bang won that was injecting him with more importance and meaning than was established by the show. One of the reasons the show annoyed me so much. 

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8 minutes ago, Biology Lesson said:

My only problem with this ship is that Hwi was so boring... We were being told that this guy is a fierce a and loyal warrior, but his acting never reflected that. It was Bang won that was injecting him with more importance and meaning than was established by the show. One of the reasons the show annoyed me so much. 

Why must you burst my Banghwi bubble with your truths? -_-
 

P.S Im ok with Banghwi being one sided, with only Bangwon giving those passionate stares, Im in a drought and I’ll take anythinggggg at this point. 

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