[Drama 2012] Nice Guy / The Innocent Man 세상 어디에도 없는 착한남자

[KPopAnimeFanatic 529]

Hello, there. KPopAnimeFanatic here.

I can't believe it's already been a full 3.25 years since the last episode of NG aired. I just recently decided to go for another rerun, and boy, did I get a lot out of it. With time comes a better understanding of how the human mind and heart functions, and it helped a lot in the case of Nice Guy. So many very human complexities addressed in a way that edges toward the extreme but doesn't feel extreme in the least. I also learned that in order to understand Nice Guy, it's about putting myself in the characters' shoes to grasp and comprehend their more than occasionally questionable logic. It's never black and white here, except that Maru is definitely no longer in love with Jae Hee from Episode 9 onward and is head over heels for Eun Gi instead. Maru is this very obsessive guy who can't let go of the ones he loves. While dating Eun Gi, he's still just as obsessed with her and in need of her as much as if not more than he was for Jae Hee in the past, but he's learned his lesson from the process of getting over Jae Hee, and is more conscious about letting Eun Gi go, though his heart is just as needy as before. As for Eun Gi, she's this poor innocent soul who's been through just as much emotional turmoil as everyone else (if not more) but has done no wrong in the process and ends up being used anyway. What's more, she's received little to none sort of love and support in her life when Maru and Jae Hee got it and craves it as a result, but ends up being cheated into it and dragged into something worse. But she's nowhere near submissive and giving. Rather, she goes for what she wants until she gets it, if it's within possibility. Unlike Jae Hee, who keeps trying and trying to get Maru after losing him, Eungi first asked for Maru's permission when she wanted him. She never forced anything unto Maru. Finally Jae Hee, selfish Jae Hee. (Note that basically every character in NG is super selfish, but Jae Hee's selfishness is more noticeable because it's based on material wealth.) Her revoltingness does not tread into evil to the point where she would just emotionlessly watch a person die, but it's still a very grabbing attitude that will work to get whatever she wants even with her limited brain size (in comparison to Maru and Eun gi). It's at times infuriating and others almost pitiful, but she's a great character to make NG more complete as an antagonist with complexity.

Eungi's love with Maru is beautiful in that both are so emotionally scarred but are managing it in a positive direction by feeding each other through their relationship, which has great benefits. Eun Gi can see through Maru the biggest liar ever's lies even after losing her memory, and Maru's super smart brain and caring heart help him to know how Eun Gi works from every nut and bolt. Moreover, their love for each other makes them more human and complete, and want to live. 

And thats pretty much every point i wanted to say. 

[menbbong 41]

13 hours ago, KPopAnimeFanatic said:

Hello, there. KPopAnimeFanatic here.

I can't believe it's already been a full 3.25 years since the last episode of NG aired. I just recently decided to go for another rerun, and boy, did I get a lot out of it. With time comes a better understanding of how the human mind and heart functions, and it helped a lot in the case of Nice Guy. So many very human complexities addressed in a way that edges toward the extreme but doesn't feel extreme in the least. I also learned that in order to understand Nice Guy, it's about putting myself in the characters' shoes to grasp and comprehend their more than occasionally questionable logic. It's never black and white here, except that Maru is definitely no longer in love with Jae Hee from Episode 9 onward and is head over heels for Eun Gi instead. Maru is this very obsessive guy who can't let go of the ones he loves. While dating Eun Gi, he's still just as obsessed with her and in need of her as much as if not more than he was for Jae Hee in the past, but he's learned his lesson from the process of getting over Jae Hee, and is more conscious about letting Eun Gi go, though his heart is just as needy as before. As for Eun Gi, she's this poor innocent soul who's been through just as much emotional turmoil as everyone else (if not more) but has done no wrong in the process and ends up being used anyway. What's more, she's received little to none sort of love and support in her life when Maru and Jae Hee got it and craves it as a result, but ends up being cheated into it and dragged into something worse. But she's nowhere near submissive and giving. Rather, she goes for what she wants until she gets it, if it's within possibility. Unlike Jae Hee, who keeps trying and trying to get Maru after losing him, Eungi first asked for Maru's permission when she wanted him. She never forced anything unto Maru. Finally Jae Hee, selfish Jae Hee. (Note that basically every character in NG is super selfish, but Jae Hee's selfishness is more noticeable because it's based on material wealth.) Her revoltingness does not tread into evil to the point where she would just emotionlessly watch a person die, but it's still a very grabbing attitude that will work to get whatever she wants even with her limited brain size (in comparison to Maru and Eun gi). It's at times infuriating and others almost pitiful, but she's a great character to make NG more complete as an antagonist with complexity.

Eungi's love with Maru is beautiful in that both are so emotionally scarred but are managing it in a positive direction by feeding each other through their relationship, which has great benefits. Eun Gi can see through Maru the biggest liar ever's lies even after losing her memory, and Maru's super smart brain and caring heart help him to know how Eun Gi works from every nut and bolt. Moreover, their love for each other makes them more human and complete, and want to live. 

And thats pretty much every point i wanted to say. 

So true. I watched it again last week and I love it even more . For me, NG is the drama that you will appreciate more after watching it again (i lost count of how many times i watched it, lol). 

[soulgirl012 1,323]

Hi guys, I started watching this drama in between DotS and have it on repeat everyday since. Haha. NG >>>>> DotS.

Anyways, I'm watching the car crash scene again and anyone has any thought as to why Eungi turned the car around and headed back to the beach? I'm sure it wasn't her intention at first to crash into Maru (how would she knows they'll be in the same tunnel? I know it's written into it so the whole amnesia and 2nd part of the show can go on).  I'm really curious if the director or Miss Moon has mentioned anything in past interviews?

Does she wanna scream at Maru again or what?

 

 

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21 hours ago, soulgirl012 said:

Hi guys, I started watching this drama in between DotS and have it on repeat everyday since. Haha. NG >>>>> DotS.

Anyways, I'm watching the car crash scene again and anyone has any thought as to why Eungi turned the car around and headed back to the beach? I'm sure it wasn't her intention at first to crash into Maru (how would she knows they'll be in the same tunnel? I know it's written into it so the whole amnesia and 2nd part of the show can go on).  I'm really curious if the director or Miss Moon has mentioned anything in past interviews?

Does she wanna scream at Maru again or what?

 

 

Hello.. I rewatch this drama more than 1 times. At that time eungi got call from secretary about her dad just died. Meanwhile she was busy with maru (maru is the one who using her to get close with jaehee 'this is whats on eungi mind') she said on the beach lets go, where no one could find them..but maru still reject her !

so the car crash was intentionally she did, because she wanted died with him.. also mAru still driving when he know eungi want to crash theirs car.. (Before the crash maru seems happy, eungi back, but after saw eungi car still fast, he just let her wish come true, because he feel guilty to hurting her) So both of them wanted to died. .(because they already love each other so much that times)

I think in the beach, kang maru just wanted to hurt eungi feeling because he already using her first, but in the end he fall for her. So he feel guilty toward eungi..

I really love this drama, this is the best of the best song joong ki drama. 

[dee09 534]

Okay..I love Song Hye Kyo but deep down inside I'm secretly rooting for the ChaeKi couple 

Can't believer its going to be 4 years since NG. Is it possible for them to work together in another drama? 

 

Or maybe Running Man? Or Happy Together?

 

 

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Still my alltime favourite Korean drama out there.

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And the second time they "meet" it's anything but ordinary...

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On 02/05/2016 at 10:54 AM, KPopAnimeFanatic said:

I can't believe it's already been a full 3.25 years since the last episode of NG aired. I just recently decided to go for another rerun, and boy, did I get a lot out of it. With time comes a better understanding of how the human mind and heart functions, and it helped a lot in the case of Nice Guy. So many very human complexities addressed in a way that edges toward the extreme but doesn't feel extreme in the least.

 

I really love everything you've said here because I just did my own rewatch of the series recently (okay, two days ago) and I went through pretty much the same emotions! While the first few times in 2012 I was watching for the giddy feelings I got from our leads, this time I really started to appreciate how nuanced the characters are, and how full and complex they are. So many dramas use cardboard/stock characters who are playing their character tropes rather than becoming full and fleshed out, whereas here I could appreciate and understand their motivations, not random for the sake of melodrama, but full and coherent as human beings with their weaknesses, fears, vulnerabilities and vices.

Ever since Nice Guy I've been trying my hardest to find other dramas that meet me the same way NG has, and haven't been able to find them yet. Still hoping that the same magic we got here can be replicated, but it seems so hard for cast + writing + directing to meet as well as they had here.

[mykimchiworld 360]

I'm still re-watching this drama up to this year 2017. It's been 5 years and it is still my favorite SJK drama even after the DOTS hype. I don't know but I find NG better drama than DOTS. 

I hope to see both of them together again. They never seem to have any interaction since SJK left and return from army enlistment.

 

[lotuzea 320]

call me late but I just watched this amazing drama and loveeee it so much. I originally saw clips of the Chaeki couple and thought the chemistry would be amazing but my heart wasn't ready to see song joong ki paired with other actress after watching DoTS (am a song-song shipper here). But oh my... after watching this drama I realise that Chaeki's couple chemistry is indeed so good.  

I only started watched  last month but have repeated so many times. Its sooo goodd ~!! I agree with the saying that all the characters are complex, they are often faced with internal battle and I question their logical decision making but overall the drama is very well written, so many twists and so many layers of emotions built from watching it.

I still question when did Maru first realise that he has fallen in love with EunGi, and why Maru chose to hide his pain after being stabbed because i thought he found a reason to live then, and many more questions. I also wished there would've been a more obvious declaration of love for the ending but cant complain as it's a happy ending.

Im trully glad I watch this drama as it will be one that will last in my mind forever, my fave kdrama

[mykimchiworld 360]

On 5/23/2017 at 10:18 PM, lotuzea said:

call me late but I just watched this amazing drama and loveeee it so much. I originally saw clips of the Chaeki couple and thought the chemistry would be amazing but my heart wasn't ready to see song joong ki paired with other actress after watching DoTS (am a song-song shipper here). But oh my... after watching this drama I realise that Chaeki's couple chemistry is indeed so good.  

I only started watched  last month but have repeated so many times. Its sooo goodd ~!! I agree with the saying that all the characters are complex, they are often faced with internal battle and I question their logical decision making but overall the drama is very well written, so many twists and so many layers of emotions built from watching it.

I still question when did Maru first realise that he has fallen in love with EunGi, and why Maru chose to hide his pain after being stabbed because i thought he found a reason to live then, and many more questions. I also wished there would've been a more obvious declaration of love for the ending but cant complain as it's a happy ending.

Im trully glad I watch this drama as it will be one that will last in my mind forever, my fave kdrama

 

Welcome to this thread! Even though this has been inactive for a long time now. I'm glad you liked The Innocent Man even after watching DOTS first. it was the other way around for me and I still can't bring myself to watch DOTS I've seen a few episodes but it just can't make me like it like how I loved The innocent man from the very beginning I know DOTS is a great work too but I'm too much attached to Maru and Eun gi. lol

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Hello friends!

 

Welcome to the Revenge re-watch party.

 

How will a re-watch party work?

 

Very simple -- tag your friends and let them know you are watching and would like them to join you as well.

 

We are hoping to have at least a small group of 5-10 chingus so that we can watch and enjoy as a group.

After all, a drama is more entertaining when you are watching along with others, no? 

If you are interested, please raise your hand and say you are in -- just so that we know we have company. People are free to join in at any time just like in a regular drama thread. If you realize that the drama is not your cup of tea at some point, do not feel bad if you want to drop it. It happens to all of us from time to time 

 

Every week - we will watch 2 episodes and post right here on this thread.

 

You can watch at your convenience but post your responses to the episode no earlier than Tuesday each week. We discuss from Tue till the following Mon.

 

Now, if you get excited and start watching more episodes, just be aware that others may or may not have watched them and so may not be able to comment.

So if you can, please stick to that week's episodes for posting and commenting.

Also, please do not add spoilers in your posts that might take away from the enjoyment of the chingus watching for the first time....

 

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Nov 10 - Nov 16 - ep 11, 12

Nov 17 - Nov 23 - ep 13, 14

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The re-watch party rules can also be found on the first post of this thread.

 

Are you excited? Is Song Joong Ki your oppa? Are you missing Moon Chae Won from Flower of Evil?

 

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I've been ready since the re-watch was announced!

 

It's finally happening !

 

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Sis said this drama is very dramatic. @partyon says it is only as dramatic as Secret. So I say:

 

 

@Jillia another drama together 

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