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@mojobobo, I love the new pictures you posted of all four of them from DC. Those pictures look totally awesome. Thank you. :) It's so sad Shunji and Rie didn't get to develop as much until towards the end. I wonder why the scriptwriter decided to give us those two OTP and then just separated them towards end. What shall Rie and KT do without the other two? haha.

This probably was posted before, but I miss the old Shunji and Esther, so I'm reposting.
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@sunshine4ever, I guess Rie and Shunji were never meant to be a couple but then their chemistry was so so good and their characters sort of matched because Rie was seeing Shunji walk the road she once took but he, unlike her, couldn't and didn't want to stop. I guess it's also because he had more reasons to forge on since he's a pure blooded Japanese unlike her... :((

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hey, do you gals mind if i repost the KangDan ones over at their discussion thread? sigh, i thought having a thread made for them would be easier for shippers, since everything is there for all to see and enjoy. but it turns out to be difficult for everyone because it means you have to go back and forth to post the same things. :(

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@Micheru,  I really prefer to just keep everything KT & MD here. I would write things about Joo Won & Se Yeon over there because I have no place to go to talk about them in real life. Hehe. What do you think? I think it would divide us if we decide to go over there and not support this BM thread. But it was great to see translations of mashed-up pics over there also. :) I will repost news of JW & SY over there later when there is a chance.

@mojobobo, I agree with what you said, but for me I just felt like besides his nanny and maybe Rie, I don't think Shunji has anyone left in the world prior to his death. I was thinking even before episode 27, his dad was really busy to do his own stuffs. I really felt that Shunji never really receive love or kindness from anyone and he himself became that terrible because there wasn't love shown. Poor thing. I just wish we can be more sensitive towards people in our lives the way we should for Shunji. I think it was his fault for going through it all himself, but I think it would be nice if there was someone trying to understand him and stop him from doing all those nasty things. Most of the times now that I saw back, I didn't really see him being healed from those cruel things he did. He never even reflected about his actions either. I think he did it once with Kangto in some old episodes where he cried, but that was it.

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@mojobobo, Rie was like someone who reminded him of how he should be as a person. I think she's like MD to KT. She was one of those people that give him hopes to be back to his old self. I hate the way the scriptwriter ended everything now that I watched episode 24 and I could finally understand Shunji's heart-felt pains. I think his pain is worse than KT's pain because he was never healed. KT at least met MD, got accepted and loved by MD and by the others, but SJ had always wanted love yet never received it. So sad. It's so difficult not to ship him because I understand his pains. The entire time I think I really did love Shunji as though I am Kangto or Mokdan myself. It can't be helped there since I understand his pain and his suffering. What a living hell he went through. The poor guy didn't even know how to stop himself from doing all of those things that hurt him and others. *sobs* sorry mojo, for bringing up Shunji's pain. I hope it won't make you feel sad, but I can't help but say something for him.

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@sunshine4ever, that's precisely why I said that Shunji was not an emotionally mature and resilient person. For Kangto, he was always shown love since young (until he became a policeman). In his formative years, his family was always there for him and he had a hyung to look up to. He understood the meaning of love and that was what aided him in opening his heart up to his fellow countrymen. Whereas, Shunji never knew love properly. Sure, his nanny doted on him but a servant's love is not the same as your own family's. Shunji love the Korean people because he saw no reason to hate them and his ideology was probably more democratic but then once Gaksital came and took away his hyung, his perspective changed and he had a reason to hate the Korean people. 
But yes, we really should be more loving to people, with our own family, to friends, to even strangers. World peace  :-bd

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@mojobobo, Shunji has a big attachment, too, which is totally different from KT. Anyway, I did not get a chance to read mrdimples' post on KT & SJ yet. If I read it and I agree with everything she says then I would not write my review of KT & SJ, but maybe I will write something about them to put a closure for myself. :) I really want to know everything you know about SJ & KT. Gosh, you just drops me a few lines and it's not good enough for me! You don't even know! lol. I personally think you were the only person that helped me understand SJ so much. Without your talks, I would never have understood him. I got mad because I got tired of his random acts. Thanks for helping me going deeper with SJ there. I learned so much from him just as much as I've learned from KT.  I know it maybe funny to some of you, but I like to enjoy a drama, but sometimes it's not bad to learn from it, too. ^^ So people may be sick of my life lesson posts, haha.

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@sunshine4ever, I could go on and on about life lessons but then it'll be boring lolllll. The thing about this drama is that it is set in a conflict rich context so there are too many levels from which you can look at things. I didn't understand Shunji at first too and I really felt like hitting him lol!!! It was only until later when I rationalised it out that I understood him better. I guess due to time constraints they couldn't show Shunji's transformation as well as Kangto's [and even Joo Won said he felt Kangto's transformation was rushed] so we pretty much had to think through it ourselves. 

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@mojobobo, you just so right about the layer of each character. I almost pulled my hair out because of Shunji. I kept saying to icegonzales (I'm sure you remember her from the beginning of this drama posting here) that I would rewatch previous episodes. I doubt I will even write anything about KT & SJ if I don't rewatch the beginning again properly. I skipped around a lot in episodes 1-6.  I wish I watched episode 24 first before 25. Now I wouldn't write anything unless I have learned enough to say more. Saying anything more will just mean I'm not fair for each of these two characters who suffered so much.

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Javabeans @ dramabeans translated some interviews featuring Joo Wonhttp://www.dramabeans.com/2012/09/joo-won-interview-ratings-man-and-aegyo-boy/ 

Joo-won interview: Ratings man and aegyo boyby javabeans | September 23, 2012 | 86 Comments

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Gaksital may be over, but the hit drama has left dramaland a few stars richer, namely its two leads, Joo-won and Park Ki-woong. Not that neither were stars before, but I think it’s safe to say this drama has taken them one step further, graduating them into bona fide leading men status. Both actors have been the subject of numerous interviews (and I mean a TON) since Gaksital wrapped two weeks ago, and the following is a collection of several interviews featuring Joo-won (Park Ki-woong interviews forthcoming).

Joo-won has had a rather meteoric rise to fame, considering that his first drama was a mere two years ago. Here’s how one article introduces him:

He doesn’t know failure. He debuted on television with 2010′s Baker King Kim Tak-gu. He had previously made his debut in musicals in 2006 and drew notice for his strong acting skills and good looks, but it was after he made his television debut that he gained name value.

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@sunshine4ever, thx for the beautiful.flower.pictures! Those are lovely, thx!

Everyone, love youu.. and love this thread! I havent been here for a while, and there are so many posts already! I'm gonna need some times to.read what I've missed, but I'm happy for it :). Hopefully I can get more time, so.that I can create something for this thread.

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Interview with Gaksital's camera man:
Gaksital's PD really loves to play jokes on people. Not only is he a caring man, he is also very cute. To get the perfect shot he wants, he will always do things thoroughly. There was one time where we were shooting a scene in which Joo Won had to run. Wasn't there a very tense scene where Kangto had to catch Mok Dan (probably in Episode 15 where he chased her in the marketplace)? Actually, the running scene was not shown in detail but just for this scene, the PD made Joo Won and the other policemen run more than 10 times (laughs). After about the 8th time, the PD aegyoed Joo Won and asked "Joo Won ah...Joo Won ah...ah...it's very tiring right? Let's run together?"
Joo Won then said "I'm not tired. Shall we run a few more times? How fast should I run? Or should I run slower?" 
It really seemed like he's made of iron. His will and mental strength is also very shocking. The other policemen were already so tired they were all sitting on the floor and not moving. 
The director then said "Run slower~~it was too fast~~fighting!" 
Just like that they had to run again for a long period of time. In such a hot weather, while wearing long sleeves and not to mention it was a western suit and leather shoes...it was really daebak. 
Everyone knows that Ki Woong and Joo Won are very close. In Episode 24, there was a scene where Abe had to ask fellow police officers for donation to Japan's Defence costs. Because filming for that scene got delayed, whilst waiting, Joo Won said to Ki Woong "Captain, ~~Captain, how much donation are you going to make?" Ki Woong said "Then how much did you give?" Joo won replied "I'm just an inspector, I have no money~~" 
So these two continued with their conversation back and forth just like that and then Koiso, who was beside them said to Joo Won "You should have saved up money when you were still a Captain." Just like that, when everyone gathers together, this is how they will start playing. 
In Episode 22, Shunji got Kangto to get ice coffee for him. Joo Won has a line that went "Do you want to add ice cubes? (*dong dong* i.e. the sound of ice cubes hitting each other). Joo Won couldn't stop laughing because of this line and had many NGs. When he was acting seriously, he will suddenly burst out laughing and everyone will also start laughing. Even when we saw the broadcast we all burst out laughing again. Now that I think back to that scene I still feellike laughing. I suggest that everyone go back to that scene and watch it again. You will probably be able to see something different. 
This is the scene:
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Dong Jin's death troop camp actually had a lot of people in it. Because of this, there was some difficulty during filming as we had to take into account the lighting direction, positions camera angles etc. When filming was delayed, Kangto would sit on the floor and stare intently at it (laughs).  so I asked him  "What are you doing?" He replied "I'm looking for a four leaf clover!" Lee Kangto looking for a lucky four leaf clover, isn't that hilarious? Although I don't know if he manged to find one, I do remember that he sat there for quite some time (laughs). Then we have Mok Dan, whose beauty radiated everywhere as she walked around the set (laughs). Cute and lovely Mok Dan~~I recall her in the Dong Jin Death Troop tent, eating noddles and rice like they were very delicious. 
Chinese translation by m217tw @ baiduEnglish translation by mojobobo @ soompi

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Park Ki Woong's interviewhttp://www.dramabeans.com/2012/09/park-ki-woong-interview-two-faced-never-looked-so-good/

Park Ki-woong interview: Two-faced never looked so goodby javabeans | September 23, 2012 | 63 Comments

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We’ve covered the hero, so next on the Gaksital interview circuit is villain Park Ki-woong. Well, next and last. It’s a short circuit.

I have loved watching Park Ki-woong come into his own over the past several years, even though he’s been around for close to a decade at this point. He was first seen in 2004 in a K2 music video for “I Hear Love” (you can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO6F3BDJwDI, though the video itself is pretty lame), and made his acting debut in a 2005 Japanese horror movie [괴담 / 怪談] that seems to be, from my inability to rustle up much info on it, a project that faded into obscurity.

But it was a 2006 CF for a Sky cell phone that launched him to stardom, hilariously (watch the awesomeness), and he followed that up with a leading role in My Tutor Friend 2, which was a cute fluffy movie co-starring Ramyun Shop’s Lee Chung-ah. He was cute as the second lead in 2008′s rom-com Love & Marriage (where he had a very sweet parting with the heroine as they left their first loves behind to go on to their next).

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Then he took on the role of an autistic genius in 2009′s dark, intense Story of a Man, and I think that’s really when he started his career as an ‘actor.’ He followed that with Chuno,Bow: The Ultimate Weapon (aka War of the Arrows), and now Gaksital. (We’ll choose to ignore the travesty that was The Musical, which should just be stricken from the record.)

Notably, his most memorable roles have all been villainous, enough to have some calling him a villain specialist. He joked on a recent appearance of talk program GoShow that when he’s a bad guy his projects are hits, and when he’s the nice guy they flop. He was awesomely chilling in Bow, playing a sadistic Manchurian prince who liked to toy with his spoils of war, with a leer on his face and while speaking a different language. (Park has said that for Bow, he was so frustrated and embarrassed after shooting NG after NG on his first day that he spent hours on end nailing his dialogue, and was thus gratified at the praise he received for his language performance.)

Even so, he singled out the latest role as the toughest: “Of all the characters I’ve played, Kimura Shunji was one of the most difficult. It’s a drama that has left me with a lot, on an acting level. I really worked a lot on it, and learned so much.”

(Side note: Gaksital is Park Ki-woong’s fourth time working with this director, which explains both why he was cast and why he and the director had good rapport. They did a Drama Special episode together, then Love & Marriage where the PD was a B team director, then Story of a Man.)

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The role of Shunji required Park Ki-woong to travel between good guy and bad guy; he started out with a pure heart, but the situation brought out his dark side.

“Nice Shunji and bad Shunji. I thought a lot about the double-sidedness and how to act them. It wasn’t a matter of acting extremely good-natured, and then extremely evil. Out of this extreme situation he changes into being truly bad, and that is what provides motivation and justification for Kang-to and Gaksital’s actions.”

Yet it wasn’t a simple linear progression but a frequent back and forth, and Park worried a lot about how to adequately depict the character’s duality.

“Rather than calling Shunji absolutely evil, he’s a person who undergoes a complete transformation. It was the process of changing from a good person to a bad one that we showed. There were parts where it’s expressed as pain birthed by the era. Despite their different nationalities Kang-to and Shunji were friends, though they became antagonists, and it was the middle ground that was difficult to express. Because it was the gray area I had to show, not a side that was too evil, or too good.”

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On set, shooting would frequently have to stop for the two leads, Park Ki-woong and Joo-won, to allow them a chance to get a handle on their emotions—they would be so overwhelmed that the tears would keep coming.

On the Gaksital website, there was a recent behind-the-scenes clip posted of Shunji’s torture scene with Kang-to. In it, Park Ki-woong had trouble holding back his tears as Kang-to tells him how he became Gaksital, although his character wasn’t supposed to cry. (It begins around the 4-minute mark below.)

“The tears kept coming. Shunji and Kang-to may have been incredibly close friends, but turning into enemies was unavoidable. Kang-to killed Shunji’s brother and father, Shunji’s brother killed Kang-to’s brother and mother, and Shunji’s father killed Kang-to’s father. These situations were heartbreaking. More than the dialogue being sad, it was the situation that just naturally brought the tears to my eyes. In the scene in the last episode where Kang-to and Shunji sit down for a drink together, we had to stop filming because we couldn’t stop crying.”

As for his own real-life personality, Park described it as reserved: “I don’t like going out much, and I tend to only be friends with people I’m close to. For example, I don’t really enjoy parties or that kind of thing. It feels awkward and uncomfortable.”

He describes his relationship with Joo-won as that of a close hyung and dongsaeng: “Because of shooting schedules, we haven’t been able to meet much outside of work, but while on set we were always glad to meet.”

“Usually I’m not really one for giving or receiving massages, but I became fond of Joo-won’s aegyo. I received energy from Joo-won a lot as well. Joo-won and I are a bit different. He’s the type to immerse himself fully, and he’s got energy and great concentration. Whereas I take care to be half-immersed, and half-awake. With him, I think we had great synergy, and when I acted with him we’d both lift each other up. Our emotions would build on each other and get stronger.”

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[spoilerS FOR FINALE] It’s for that reason that the final episode showdown between the two resulted in an endless string of NGs. It’s the scene (as if we could forget!) where they meet knowing that one of them will die tonight, and instead of challenging Kang-to, Shunji sends him out and kills himself.

“I don’t think the director wanted flowing tears from either Kang-to or Shunji in the suicide scene. What he wanted was for Kang-to to send Shunji off with resolve, and for Shunji to show a complex range of emotions and then let the tears flow as he died. But the NGs came because both of us kept crying.”

“In the fist-fighting scene in Episode 27, and the suicide scene of 28, I had the thought, ‘I want to do more with him. It would be fun to work with him more.’ He was a really great partner.”

“I’m really thankful to Joo-won. Acting in Gaksital as a whole, the energy level is pretty intense, and we had a lot of give-and-take with each other. If I came into a scene with an acting tone thinking ‘This amount is enough,’ Joo-won would meet me and both of us would elevate. We helped each other out.”

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What about the female co-stars?

“I’m sure she asked advice of the other actors too, but Jin Se-yeon called a lot to ask me this and that. She’s a motivated actor. For me, it was actually the first time I’ve given someone acting advice. It’s a sensitive area, so I didn’t say much but she would draw out my responses. She worked really hard.”

Then there’s Han Chae-ah, scenes with whom he said he enjoyed shooting the most for those reasons because it gave him a chance to speak frankly to a sympathetic ear. “Shunji was always stressed from not being able to catch Gaksital that wherever he went, he would suppress it all and not express it. But when I was in scenes with Han Chae-ah noona, we would be like companions in misery and our conversations would be plain-spoken, which was really nice. And whenever the other person is delivering their lines, she’s the kind of actor to always offer a kind reaction.”

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He added, “She was the one person I could express my feelings to. Acting with her felt refreshing. Because of Hong-joo [Rie], I survived.”

(Park has been quoted recently saying Han Chae-ah is his ideal woman, ha.)

Emotionally: “Gaksital was really emotionally draining. We’d cry a lot and become enraged, but then had to come down from that. Acting became exhausting, especially when I’d grab Kang-to’s throat and fight him. Joo-won told me to grab his throat for real, and I found myself actually doing it. I could actually feel my emotion taking over.”

“All the torture scenes were the most difficult. I really hate hitting other people, but there were quite a number of scenes where I’m hitting women. It particularly drove me nuts to do the drowning torture scenes with women. If you have an outtake in a water torture scene, you have to dry their hair when there’s very little spare time to go around, and grab your co-star’s hair and just shove them around without mercy. It was psychologically rough.”

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Yes. It was psychologically rough to watch them, so one can only imagine how dark a headspace you had to be in to act them out: “All the scenes in that room were very intense, and you get pulled into that space. Because of the emotions involved, I’d come out after filming the torture scenes and not be myself.”

More than your average historical drama, it seems this one carried an extra burden, perhaps because the pain is so recent, so raw with yet-unhealed scars. So I’m not surprised to hear that the crew took their burden seriously; that was evident just by watching the show.

“In order to express these historical events like the comfort women issue, it wasn’t a sense of obligation we felt but a real obligation. I wasn’t personally involved in the comfort women storyline, but the other hyungs [playing officers] had to intervene and act out very violently. When we read that script, everyone had a hard time with it and felt uncomfortable while shooting it.”

For instance, there’s co-star Yoon Jin-ho, who played one of Shunji’s most prominent sidekicks, Koiso, and was a sympathetic ear for him. “Since this is a drama that requires so much emotion and expressiveness, you get used to that state and find that your emotions surge and well up. I’m thankful to Jin-ho hyung, both in and outside of acting. I sought acting advice a lot from him, and while it may be presumptuous for me to say it, he’s a sunbae with really strong acting skills.”

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Park admits that there were times he overacted, singling out the scene of Damsari’s execution as an example of overdoing his facial expressions. As a result, he’d had nightmares at the time and even wanted to run away from it all.

“After thinking those thoughts, I doubted myself, wondering, ‘Will I be able to hang in there?’ There were ten episodes left at that point, and I felt that I wouldn’t be able to manage if I didn’t figure out how to draw back on my facial expressions. That’s when I, the total computer illiterate, learned how to use Twitter and started to use it with Koiso hyung. On set, I started to purposely joke around more. This was my fourth time working with director Yoon Sung-shik and most of the staff were people I’d worked with before, and when I started to goof around more things got better. Rather than approaching everything overly seriously, I think it’s necessary to enjoy yourself too.”

As we know, the cast of Gaksital took a ton of goofy, cute, aegyo-filled photos when not filming. We can imagine that it was a relief to break character when possible. And while looking at the photos makes Park Ki-woong seem just as inclined toward natural aegyo as Joo-won, it’s fascinating seeing just how different they are. Similar outer expressing, worlds apart on the inside.

Park said, “I took a lot of those kind of pictures. After doing this work constantly, I found myself looking for fun in the smallest things. If I didn’t, I wouldn’t be able to enjoy myself.”

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Park Ki-woong was one of the folks who took care of others on the set as a leader, which Joo-won said was something he learned over the course of this drama. Park said he in turn learned it from Park Yong-ha (RIP), his co-star from Story of a Man.

“Yong-ha hyung took care of everyone around him, and when the drama wrapped the whole cast and crew took a photo and wrote our names on it. If you don’t work with the staff a lot, you tend to just greet them and leave it at that, without learning everyone’s names. But hyung did all that. He was a really good hyung.”

Asked if he’s thinking of awards, Park said no. “If I’m given an award, of course I’d be grateful. But awards, you know… There’s a part of me that’s like an old soul. To be honest, sometimes I think people will think I’m acting too much like an old adult that I try to live more free-spiritedly. That makes me more comfortable. What I like best is to do my best in a tough situation. If I try too hard and struggle with everything, it just makes me more tired.”

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Via TV ReportMy DailyMy DailyNewsenHankook IlboTV Daily

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Guest sunshine4ever

@raito1310, dear, do you think you can cut & paste the whole thing from that site to your post? I think it's easier for everyone to read if you could do that, please? Thanks so much in advance. Awww, so many news of Joo Won and Park Ki Woong regarding Kangto and Shunji. Why didn't they do this in the middle of the drama *sighs* save me a lot of pain from trying to understand Shunji. lol.

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I realized that some of the news from Drama Beans actually were translated here, but I just found this part to be so funny the way he described the torturing scene in the water.

Park Ki Wong said: “All the torture scenes were the most difficult. I really hate hitting other people, but there were quite a number of scenes where I’m hitting women. It particularly drove me nuts to do the drowning torture scenes with women. If you have an outtake in a water torture scene, you have to dry their hair when there’s very little spare time to go around, and grab your co-star’s hair and just shove them around without mercy. It was psychologically rough.”

So sorry for your struggle there, Ki Woong.
credits: http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/09/park-ki-woong-interview-two-faced-never-looked-so-good/

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Another KT & MD MV made by AnonBlackkMV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8sCFb576OU

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@demoeoe, thank you so much! I like the other music video called "It Hurts" by Anon, too that you posted. This music video has all the good scenes of KT-MD and they're all happy/teary to me.

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More DC fan art (credit http://www.krdrama.com m217tw):

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@sunshine4ever, I'm glad you like the new MV, seems to me that Anon may make more later on... will keep an eye on it...

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@mojobobo and @mrdimples, thx a lot for the stories and pics of shunji! I sill havent has the time to read otherr posts, but I just opened this thread and saw that. The story is funny and matches the screen.shot. Thx..haha.

And,I love Shunji's pic, esp the one with him playing the piano while singing withhe childre. OMG..that's one of the scenes that makes me unable to hate him all this time! Shunji was so loveable and gentle.. Aish..those two boys.. :(..

And, about JW'S interview... Wah, he was surrounded by kids! Cute! And imagining an aegyo like him suddenly become an oppa and got mad becoz of the naughty kids, aawww.. :P.. hahaha *okay, if my niece saw my like this, she'd say that I'm overreacting :P*

@sunshine4ever, thx for shunji-jsy pic. I just like PKW.. :)

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@demoeoe, thx for the cute pic!

I have so.many things to do at work, and I cant stay here for long :(. Gonna be back here later!

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