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On 2/3/2016 at 6:46 PM, charleebrown said:

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Hi Charleebrown,

I was actually afraid it was going to turn into a keloid scar, as you said, it was hard, bumpy and raised...then mine started to turn white! They were responsive and recommended that I take another shot if I was worried...can't remember the solution name.

Oh wow, our surgery sounds practically the same - mine was just the one eye too (sorry if that wasn't clear) that got bruised and went through a lot. Though I don't know if I mentioned before but I had fat graft done under the eyes too so you will see my bruise traveled down to my cheek. Even so with fat graft, like you said before, Dr Kwon said it was unusual to bruise. He gave me shots too but nothing changed in my case but I remained patient.
  
It's true, the consultation was very quick and we didn't talk much more but I felt like the pictures / photos I brought did all the work. Having done my research too I was pretty fearless. When I first saw myself straight after surgery it was creepy but I wasn't scared. I was prepared for everything but the epi scar was something I didn't like but the confidence and joy I get back from seeing the difference helps me get over it.
It's not my purpose to slate them but to share my experience with everyone since having surgery is as easy as getting a haircut these days~ research, prep and knowing what looks best for you is important and please don't treat it like a haircut / lunchtime break surgery haha, it was just a metaphor. 
 

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I got my incisional surgery with Dr. Andrew Choi at VIP. He did an excellent job, and everyone at the clinic was really sweet and helpful. I can't believe how simple and easy the surgery was. It's only day 8, but I feel like I'm almost recovered. My right eye is still a bit swollen, but everything healed super quickly.

I had a natural crease, but it would move around depending on the day. I wanted a permanent crease and to remove extra skin. We settled on 7mm and he took out 3mm of skin. I went in for a consult last year, but only got around to the surgery last week. By the way, I only told three people about my surgery. In one week, I saw my boyfriend and he didn't notice. That's how great Dr. Choi is and I'll talk about what I did to recover quickly.

Here's what I looked like before. Most days I'd wake up with no crease and rub my eyes until I could get one in there.. So this is an example of what I looked like when I'd wake up and after I put a crease in.

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DAY OF SURGERY:

My surgery was scheduled for 9am. Dr. Choi had a quick look over my eyes again to make sure he knew what I wanted, he understood very quickly. Thankfully when I went in, I woke up with the type of crease I wanted. Since Dr. Choi has been doing this for decades, he's probably seen every type of case imaginable. Then I got dressed into my robe, they gave me a valium at that point. Got on the table and the nurse inserted the IV. I couldn't feel a thing after that. They put me on another pain killer through the IV, so while Dr. Choi was drawing up the incision lines, I was wandering off into a blissful slumber. I barely remember him saying that the injections were the worst part; I thought I may have dreamt it. I could kind of feel things going on, but I didn't feel any pain and I honestly was enjoying the high a lot. When Dr. Choi finished, the nurses put an ice pack on my eyes and I hung out for a little bit, I was really happy and blissful thanks to the valium and the other pain killer. All I know is my friend was there to pick me up at 11:30, they sent me on my way with a Dr. Choi goodie bag full of gauze, swabs, ice packs, and a prescription to the antibiotic ointment that I purchased directly downstairs. 

I went home and iced pretty much the whole day. Because the drugs were still in my system, I was sleeping for most of it and would change packs whenever I woke up. I didn't get a picture the first day, so here's day two.

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There was no pain the next day. I couldn't believe how easy it was. Even though I was super swollen and slightly bruised, I never felt like I couldn't look at myself. I iced as they recommended, drank a lot of water and green tea, and stuck to a strict diet of fresh fruit (pineapple, oranges, bananas, apples), spinach, avocado, and salmon. I think it helped with my recovery a lot. I used micellar water to clean my face for the first four days of not being able to shower. I also sprayed on Iso-Cell Solution by Le Mieux-- I recommend this product because it heals any wounds extra quickly. My incision line is barely noticeable, it only looks like my fold. I myself am surprised at how little scarring I have. I mean, I have no scarring.

My progress the next day was similar, so here's day four. Slightly less swollen and bruised.

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On day six I went in to get my stitches out, but because my crease line had formed slightly over the incision line, Dr. Choi stitched it up again to reinforce the crease. I was worried because I was planning on seeing my boyfriend the next day, but the stitches were so unnoticeable that he didn't even question anything about my appearance. If he had asked about anything, I was going to blame it on the Botox that Dr. Choi also administered for me ;) Btw his rates are super fair for Botox.

Here's what I looked like with the new stitches in day six.

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Today I went in to get those stitches out. I'm still a little more swollen on my right eye, I think it's because I sleep on that side. I've seen a few friends after the initial stitches were taken out, and no one mentioned anything about me looking differently. I think Dr. Choi knew what look I was going for and nailed it exactly. Even while I'm recovering, the look is great and it's only going to get better. Here's how I am now. It looks almost like the crease I'd have to rub in myself, but so much better. The swelling is pretty much almost all gone on my left eye, just in the corner so that's why it's not perfectly parallel. 

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If anyone is on the fence about getting this surgery, please just go for it. And I'd highly recommend that you go for incision if you're contemplating the DST method. It was such a simple procedure, if you take care of yourself the recovery can be just one week. I'm so happy I went for it. And if you're in Los Angeles, go with Dr. Choi!

Let me know if you have any questions. I like that Incognito and I were communicating about our experiences before and after surgery.. It's nice to have support :)

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On March 26, 2016 at 2:19 PM, TwinkiesYUM said:

 

I'm glad your results with Dr. Choi at VIP went well. I'm actually going to Korea for revision double eyelid surgery after doing my surgery with him. From what I've learned from the internet and talking with a friend (and a friend of hers), I think the chances of getting good results with him are 50/50. I also think that his techniques are outdated, building/location appears unprofessional, and his personality misleading and arrogant. 

Same here! Had surgery with Dr. Andrew Choi 9 months ago with 7mm crease size. Recovery period was hard for me. My eyes looked so bad the first two months. Now at 9 months post op, I have very unnatural puffy swollen creases like two sausages. Going for revision at my 1-year mark. I just want to point out something to the girls out there who are considering this surgery. When we look for a surgeon, we want someone who is very experienced. But we have to be careful with that. Sometimes surgeons with many years (30, 40+ years) of experience under their belts, their technique might be outdated or they still practice the old traditional method of DES which will comprise the result. 

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Interesting to find this here since I've had double eyelid surgery done 2 years back. I was very happy with the results because I used to have a heavily hooded pair of eyelids. They just make me look like Garfield. People often think that I was snobbish or bored a lot. I just wanted to look more friendly and welcoming, so I decided to get it done after a year of thinking it through and saving up for it. The procedure was painless, and you will be under anesthesia (general). The first few days was a bit tricky due to the swelling and some amount of discomfort (manageable). After a few months, I really started to see the final results and i loved it! it created a dramatic improvement. I had to give props to dr andrew kim of advance and his team. If any of you are planning on getting this procedure done, or any cosmetic surgery for that matter, always be sure to do your homework. Don't dive in without the right preparation. 

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On 8/30/2015 at 5:13 AM, kubbi said:

 

 

So I'm going to Korea this summer (alone... EEEEP) and my mom offered that I can get double eyelid surgery while I'm there. So I've been doing research on what clinics to go to and was mostly impressed by the famous video sunnydahye posted of her experience with Banobagi. Thing is, I can speak conversational Korean but am not confident at all about discussing this whole procedure with Korean doctors just because idk the technical terms and what not. So would you guys suggest that I do what sunny did and get help via docfinderkorea? Or should I just go to Banobagi since it seems like they have staff who speak English? If not,for those of you who have had the procedure done in Korea, did any of the reliable and trustworthy clinics have specialists who spoke English well?

Also, when should I get the procedure done? I wanted to get it done before flying back to the U.S but from what I'm reading, most people have had to wait about a week before going back to get stitches out and for a follow up in general. Is there such a thing as dissolvable stitches or do I for sure have to spend an extra week in Korea, utterly miserable and looking beaten up LOL. 

In general I'm just freaking out about going alone and doing this whole thing by myself o___O please help LOL

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So sorry to hear that your surgeries did not go as well as mine, Twinkies and JessBee. I suppose it really depends on the patient, their eyes, and expectations. I  did a lot of research and asked Dr. Choi a lot of questions before going through with him. 

Here's my one month update.. I couldn't be happier! The swelling on my left eye evened out and there's just slight swelling in the corners. I've been massaging sea buckthorn berry oil along my incision line and it's been helping to break down any scar tissue.

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Hi guys I need a solution. So, my little sister who is almost 14 wants to have double eyelid surgery. She had mild ptosis and after months of usage of double eyelid glue, it's only gotten worse. The ptosis not only affects her eyesight, but it seems that it's damaging her self confidence as well. For both reasons, because she can't see very adequately without it, and because she has low self-esteem without it, she won't stop wearing the glue. However, our parents are reluctant to allow the performance of the surgery to be done, as there are risks of failure, and since she is not yet 14, so her face could change and the surgery could look strange after. 

So, summer break's coming up and so is high school, so she and I decided that if it were to be done, it would be during summer break, because of the surplus recovery period as well as the fact that I'm going to college in the fall, so I won't be there afterwards.

I'm not really sure about this though, this could change her life in a positive way or annihilate it. I feel an obligation to help my sister, yet I also fully understand the stance my parents take, because I mean, her eyes, the windows to one's soul, is on the line here.

So, any suggestions to approaching this problem? Also, it would be great if there are any reliable surgeons (the optimal case would be that he/she has had experience with younger teens or children in the Bay Area of California) and surgery techniques (incision, suture, etc) for the case that I present, that you could recommend, it would be great!

Thanks!

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so...I wanted some help/advice from people who have previously had surgery and such. I live in Westchester (a small county in New York) and about an hour away from the city. My friend recommended Eric Choe, but from several reviews in this thread, he's apparently very bad? I'm a little bit nervous to trust him, so I'm looking into Edward Kwak. So here's some questions:

1. Here's a picture of my eyelids at the moment. As a kid, I had halfie eyes -- one had a double lid, one didn't, and I was bullied for it because my smile and face looked crooked. But as I started high school, my other lid set in. Unfortunately, one is larger than the other because the folds developed unevenly. 

The main procedure I want is to get rid of the epicanthal fold in front of my eye (or the mongolian fold, I have particularly prominent folds that hide a lot of my inner eye), but my mother, after hearing about my decision to have surgery done, recommended that I have the surgeon also redo my double eyelids. From your judgement, do you think it'd be better to just have my folds cut, or also have my lids redone?

http://i.imgur.com/g5CE3JP.jpg

2. Is Eric Choe a trustworthy surgeon? Most of his reviews seem positive, but Soompi says otherwise. But if you were to choose between Dr. Kwak and Dr. Choe, who would you recommend?

thank you so much!

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Hi, I'm 13 years old is that an okay age for double eyelid surgery (to help my ptosis from using glue) and possibly lateral canthoplasty? I'm afraid that if I do it now, my face will change and the eyes I get won't suit me in the future. Is that a possibility? Should I wait a few years, if so how many for the minimum?

If I do it, would Asia be a safer place to do it than California? I'm Chinese btw)

I am also using orthotropic's to help my jaw misalignment, I hear that it will affect your eyes?

Also, if I do it, could it heal by day 18 because I am volunteering at a camp and don't want to scare the kids.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

 

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I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

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13 hours ago, alva114 said:

I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

 

 
 

You could look into eyelift creams, my mom uses a Loreal one for her sagging lids due to age. You should research before you use them though. The cost (and pain) also depends on the clinic, though it's typically cheaper out of the states if that's where you are.

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On 5/30/2016 at 2:46 PM, alva114 said:

I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

 


I think you should really try out this tape I am currently using.  I am doing a video diary, so check it out, you might wanna do this too!
 

 

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I was trying to live with my sometimes there, sometimes not there crease. I found the more I messed around with my eyelid, the more saggy it became. I really thought I could live with it, but then I realized how eyelids will only get saggier with age -- even if you do have a double eyelid. Going through my surgery was the best decision. For those who say it's expensive and painful, it's not painful at all. Literally no pain. The swelling pretty much goes away within a month and a half (in the grand scheme of life that is really nothing). It was kind of expensive, but there is no price for my confidence.. It was worth every penny. I'm almost 30 years old and I'm glad I finally did it. If I had done it sooner, I would have been happier and more confident earlier in life. 

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On 2016-06-08 at 0:13 AM, asianglow said:

I was trying to live with my sometimes there, sometimes not there crease. I found the more I messed around with my eyelid, the more saggy it became. I really thought I could live with it, but then I realized how eyelids will only get saggier with age -- even if you do have a double eyelid. Going through my surgery was the best decision. For those who say it's expensive and painful, it's not painful at all. Literally no pain. The swelling pretty much goes away within a month and a half (in the grand scheme of life that is really nothing). It was kind of expensive, but there is no price for my confidence.. It was worth every penny. I'm almost 30 years old and I'm glad I finally did it. If I had done it sooner, I would have been happier and more confident earlier in life. 

Hi ! How did you choose your surgeron ? Did you go in another country to get it done ? How long did it take to heal (redness and puffiness) ?

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Hey guys,

I hope someone can help me out. 

A few days ago I went to an appointment with a surgeon, who is - according to internet reviews - the best (and only) surgeon in my country to perform asian double eyelid surgery. I want a rather high, but yet natural double eyelid. Basically, I have a kinda weird eye shape, because I actually have a very small eyelid crease at approx. 1-1.5mm height, but it is not visible due to very saggy and loose skin. When I am not constantly raising my eyebrows, my eyelid skin is so saggy that my eyes look so tired and angry at the same time hahah. 

Anyways, he suggested to cut 2-3mm of excess skin and set my new double eyelid crease at 10mm according to my wish for a rather high double eyelid. He aimed to get a platform height of 2-3mm (so basically the area between your lashline and eyelid crease when your eyes are opened) but actually, 10mm seem veeeeery high to me Idk, but based on other people's reviews and experiences on the internet, they all seemed to have a crease at around 5-7mm and this already looked very high and prominent. And I guess, that my eyelid skin is kinda looser and saggier than other people, but yet, 10mm is vereeeery high, isn't it? And I am kinda afraid that a too high crease could cause ptosis or some other negative side effects which of course I dont want to risk. I have already asked him about this, but according to his before and after pictures he showed, he only/mostly did rather low double eyelid creases and I dont know whether he actually ever did such a high crease. So what do you think about the crease at 10mm? Is it too high or should I just trust the surgeon?

So TLDR: I have very loose skin, and my surgeon suggested to cut 2-3 excess skin away and then set a crease at 10mm to achieve a platform height of 2-3mm, but I am afraid that a 10mm crease is waaaaay too high.

Thanks for reading and sorry for any grammar mistakes, English isnt my native language haha

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On 6/11/2016 at 9:01 AM, MissAria said:

Hi ! How did you choose your surgeron ? Did you go in another country to get it done ? How long did it take to heal (redness and puffiness) ?

I went to a surgeon in Los Angeles. I looked at a few different ones in the area and decided on Dr. Choi based on the photos of his past surgeries and also meeting him. It took about a week for bruising to go away and then just three weeks for noticeable swelling to go down. I was out meeting friends in one week and no one has questioned that I did anything to my eyes. By six weeks I couldn't see any changes in swelling and for all redness to subside. The incision line does stay a bit red, but since it's your fold it's not obvious.

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Hello everyone!

I have been following this thread for years in hopes that I would finally get double eyelid surgery and it came true! I wanted to share my experience with everyone because I know how much it helped me reading everyones' experiences so here it goes!

Prep

I decided to go with Docfinderkorea because their services were free and since I was a foreigner travelling to Korea for the very first time, having their assistance would sound like the best way to go. Despite some people having some bad reviews about docfinder, I must say that my personal experience was very pleasant. I started emailing them December 2015 in preparation for a trip in June 2016. Docfinder replied really fast taking 2 days at the most to reply to my emails.  Jennifer was the lady I communicated with through emails and once I sent in my pictures she gave me the choices banobagi, regen, da, jw, and id. Banobagi(first) and Regen(second) were my top choices. But after looking at the quotes, Regen was cheaper, and I knew Regen was a decent clinic so I informed her of my choice. Few months later, I was told Regen's management wasn't the best, with nurses leaving and such therefore, I switched to Banobagi, although it was definitely pricier, cosmetic surgery shouldn't be something to be cheap about. I'd definitely recommend communicating with Docfinder months before a planned trip.

Arriving in Korea

Finally!!!! After months of planning my wish was finally coming true! I was picked up by a driver which I scheduled with the road manager Shin and the driver took us to the accommodation. I was actually quite skeptical whether I would actually get picked up by a driver, but I was so relived that docfinder was legit! My surgery and consultation was first thing in the morning the next day so I had to fast 4 hours prior to the operation. I met up with Anna from docfinder who would assist me with the whole surgery process. She was great! Super friendly and helpful. We took a taxi to banobagi, and luckily it wasn't too busy. Filled out forms, took pictures and had the consultation. All the ladies at the clinic were super nice and helpful and it made me feel comfortable. I met with Dr. Lee Hyun Taek to do the final review and he said that I would need full incisional with ptosis correction. Reason being is that my eyelids were sagging because I used double eyelid tape prior. The operation was definitely not cheap (4.25 mil won) but I knew that he would do a good job. The ladies at banobagi would always make sure I was able to speak and make sure it was the type of fold I wanted and what I was expecting as an outcome. So communication was no problem and I was not rushed at all.

Surgery

Near the end of consultation, they called someone to make sure the operation room was prepared for me. I was escorted by a girl named Jessie who would be with me through the whole surgery ( or at least I think so?? She was there when I went in and woke up). I had to change into my robe, wash my mouth and face, then got a blast of air for sterilization before finally entering the operating room. Throughout the whole time I was very relaxed. Jessie informed me of everything they were doing from strapping me to the bed, to inserting the IV and sedation. All I remember was a warm towel? on my face and soon enough I was dozing off. I was actually anticipating some pain when they put the local anesthesia because some have said it hurts a lot but I actually had no clue when that happened... Dr. Lee came in and I could feel him drawing on my eyes. I could also feel the cutting and stitching but there wasn't any terrible pain. I believe the surgery lasted about 1 hour and once I woke up, Jessie brought me to a room to rest a bit and after that I was sent to the changing room and went back to the lobby to see my dad and sister. Anna went out to get me my medicine and ointment. Surprisingly, I was quite lively after the surgery and I felt no pain. I was given a bag with and ice pack and hydrogen peroxide to clean my stitches. Overall, I did not experience any pain during and after the surgery.

Recovery/Stitch Removal 

While recovering, I was told to stay away from salty and spicy foods along with seafood. I iced my eyes and walked around a lot to reduce swelling. At first I felt a little self conscious walking around with puffy stitched eyes, but you'll soon realize there are many people in the same situation, so it's nothing to worry about. The swelling went down quickly the first few days post op, but have slowed down after stitch removal.
 

Anna came to meet me once again to remove the stitches which was 9 days post op. Firstly, I was sent in a room for laser deswelling treatment, in which I just lay down for 20 minutes under an incredibly bright light. Not exactly sure how it really helped with deswelling but ok... Before taking out the stitches, Dr. Lee came to check on my eyes asking me to open and close. Stitch removal was also pretty painless, just little pokes and that's it. The day I was there was extremely busy with workers running all over the place but it was nice to see my consultant visit me and ask me how I liked my eyes and also my translator who was making sure I did everything. Also a bonus was that theres a tax refund! Anna was pretty busy juggling other clients at the clinic but she still managed to meet up with me at the end offering a ride somewhere. 

Overall

I must say my trip to Korea was great and went smoothly because of docfinder. Having the driver transport us to and from the airport was definitely a plus because airport limos are pricey. Anna was great helper, and Shin was quick to reply. As of right now I am 18 days post op and I am really happy with the way it is healing. The scars aren't too prominent considering that I did full incisional and swelling is going down slowly but surely! I would definitely recommend docfinder to those who are unfamiliar with the cosmetic surgery process and korea in general. If anyone has any questions I'd be glad to help!

 

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In Los Angeles, I went to Drs Andrew Won Bae, Charles Kim and Andrew Choi for consults for double eyelid with ptosis correction. Have any of you had recent surgeries from any of them?  Can you please share your results? Thank you!

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