Double Eyelid Surgery Thread

[Hyunie Kim]

hello. I live in New jersey. Any doctor/clinic recommendation around me? 

[plumbrella]

Hi guys I need a solution. So, my little sister who is almost 14 wants to have double eyelid surgery. She had mild ptosis and after months of usage of double eyelid glue, it's only gotten worse. The ptosis not only affects her eyesight, but it seems that it's damaging her self confidence as well. For both reasons, because she can't see very adequately without it, and because she has low self-esteem without it, she won't stop wearing the glue. However, our parents are reluctant to allow the performance of the surgery to be done, as there are risks of failure, and since she is not yet 14, so her face could change and the surgery could look strange after. 

So, summer break's coming up and so is high school, so she and I decided that if it were to be done, it would be during summer break, because of the surplus recovery period as well as the fact that I'm going to college in the fall, so I won't be there afterwards.

I'm not really sure about this though, this could change her life in a positive way or annihilate it. I feel an obligation to help my sister, yet I also fully understand the stance my parents take, because I mean, her eyes, the windows to one's soul, is on the line here.

So, any suggestions to approaching this problem? Also, it would be great if there are any reliable surgeons (the optimal case would be that he/she has had experience with younger teens or children in the Bay Area of California) and surgery techniques (incision, suture, etc) for the case that I present, that you could recommend, it would be great!

Thanks!

[revenientis]

so...I wanted some help/advice from people who have previously had surgery and such. I live in Westchester (a small county in New York) and about an hour away from the city. My friend recommended Eric Choe, but from several reviews in this thread, he's apparently very bad? I'm a little bit nervous to trust him, so I'm looking into Edward Kwak. So here's some questions:

1. Here's a picture of my eyelids at the moment. As a kid, I had halfie eyes -- one had a double lid, one didn't, and I was bullied for it because my smile and face looked crooked. But as I started high school, my other lid set in. Unfortunately, one is larger than the other because the folds developed unevenly. 

The main procedure I want is to get rid of the epicanthal fold in front of my eye (or the mongolian fold, I have particularly prominent folds that hide a lot of my inner eye), but my mother, after hearing about my decision to have surgery done, recommended that I have the surgeon also redo my double eyelids. From your judgement, do you think it'd be better to just have my folds cut, or also have my lids redone?

http://i.imgur.com/g5CE3JP.jpg

2. Is Eric Choe a trustworthy surgeon? Most of his reviews seem positive, but Soompi says otherwise. But if you were to choose between Dr. Kwak and Dr. Choe, who would you recommend?

thank you so much!

[lillychu]

Hi, I'm 13 years old is that an okay age for double eyelid surgery (to help my ptosis from using glue) and possibly lateral canthoplasty? I'm afraid that if I do it now, my face will change and the eyes I get won't suit me in the future. Is that a possibility? Should I wait a few years, if so how many for the minimum?

If I do it, would Asia be a safer place to do it than California? I'm Chinese btw)

I am also using orthotropic's to help my jaw misalignment, I hear that it will affect your eyes?

Also, if I do it, could it heal by day 18 because I am volunteering at a camp and don't want to scare the kids.

PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

 

[alva114]

I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

[lillychu]

13 hours ago, alva114 said:

I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

 

 

 

You could look into eyelift creams, my mom uses a Loreal one for her sagging lids due to age. You should research before you use them though. The cost (and pain) also depends on the clinic, though it's typically cheaper out of the states if that's where you are.

[prettya]

On 5/30/2016 at 2:46 PM, alva114 said:

I am suffering from Hooded lids any recommendation to treat it. I don’t want to get into painful surgery which costs around $3,000. Any cost effective product that can help me with this lose skin over my lids.

 

I think you should really try out this tape I am currently using.  I am doing a video diary, so check it out, you might wanna do this too!
 

 

[asianglow]

I was trying to live with my sometimes there, sometimes not there crease. I found the more I messed around with my eyelid, the more saggy it became. I really thought I could live with it, but then I realized how eyelids will only get saggier with age -- even if you do have a double eyelid. Going through my surgery was the best decision. For those who say it's expensive and painful, it's not painful at all. Literally no pain. The swelling pretty much goes away within a month and a half (in the grand scheme of life that is really nothing). It was kind of expensive, but there is no price for my confidence.. It was worth every penny. I'm almost 30 years old and I'm glad I finally did it. If I had done it sooner, I would have been happier and more confident earlier in life. 

[MissAria]

On 2016-06-08 at 0:13 AM, asianglow said:

I was trying to live with my sometimes there, sometimes not there crease. I found the more I messed around with my eyelid, the more saggy it became. I really thought I could live with it, but then I realized how eyelids will only get saggier with age -- even if you do have a double eyelid. Going through my surgery was the best decision. For those who say it's expensive and painful, it's not painful at all. Literally no pain. The swelling pretty much goes away within a month and a half (in the grand scheme of life that is really nothing). It was kind of expensive, but there is no price for my confidence.. It was worth every penny. I'm almost 30 years old and I'm glad I finally did it. If I had done it sooner, I would have been happier and more confident earlier in life. 

Hi ! How did you choose your surgeron ? Did you go in another country to get it done ? How long did it take to heal (redness and puffiness) ?

[morethanlife]

Hey guys,

I hope someone can help me out. 

A few days ago I went to an appointment with a surgeon, who is - according to internet reviews - the best (and only) surgeon in my country to perform asian double eyelid surgery. I want a rather high, but yet natural double eyelid. Basically, I have a kinda weird eye shape, because I actually have a very small eyelid crease at approx. 1-1.5mm height, but it is not visible due to very saggy and loose skin. When I am not constantly raising my eyebrows, my eyelid skin is so saggy that my eyes look so tired and angry at the same time hahah. 

Anyways, he suggested to cut 2-3mm of excess skin and set my new double eyelid crease at 10mm according to my wish for a rather high double eyelid. He aimed to get a platform height of 2-3mm (so basically the area between your lashline and eyelid crease when your eyes are opened) but actually, 10mm seem veeeeery high to me Idk, but based on other people's reviews and experiences on the internet, they all seemed to have a crease at around 5-7mm and this already looked very high and prominent. And I guess, that my eyelid skin is kinda looser and saggier than other people, but yet, 10mm is vereeeery high, isn't it? And I am kinda afraid that a too high crease could cause ptosis or some other negative side effects which of course I dont want to risk. I have already asked him about this, but according to his before and after pictures he showed, he only/mostly did rather low double eyelid creases and I dont know whether he actually ever did such a high crease. So what do you think about the crease at 10mm? Is it too high or should I just trust the surgeon?

So TLDR: I have very loose skin, and my surgeon suggested to cut 2-3 excess skin away and then set a crease at 10mm to achieve a platform height of 2-3mm, but I am afraid that a 10mm crease is waaaaay too high.

Thanks for reading and sorry for any grammar mistakes, English isnt my native language haha

Edited June 16, 2016 by morethanlife

[asianglow]

On 6/11/2016 at 9:01 AM, MissAria said:

Hi ! How did you choose your surgeron ? Did you go in another country to get it done ? How long did it take to heal (redness and puffiness) ?

I went to a surgeon in Los Angeles. I looked at a few different ones in the area and decided on Dr. Choi based on the photos of his past surgeries and also meeting him. It took about a week for bruising to go away and then just three weeks for noticeable swelling to go down. I was out meeting friends in one week and no one has questioned that I did anything to my eyes. By six weeks I couldn't see any changes in swelling and for all redness to subside. The incision line does stay a bit red, but since it's your fold it's not obvious.

[digichacha]

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Edited June 24, 2016 by digichacha

[shootia]

Hello everyone!

I have been following this thread for years in hopes that I would finally get double eyelid surgery and it came true! I wanted to share my experience with everyone because I know how much it helped me reading everyones' experiences so here it goes!

Prep

I decided to go with Docfinderkorea because their services were free and since I was a foreigner travelling to Korea for the very first time, having their assistance would sound like the best way to go. Despite some people having some bad reviews about docfinder, I must say that my personal experience was very pleasant. I started emailing them December 2015 in preparation for a trip in June 2016. Docfinder replied really fast taking 2 days at the most to reply to my emails.  Jennifer was the lady I communicated with through emails and once I sent in my pictures she gave me the choices banobagi, regen, da, jw, and id. Banobagi(first) and Regen(second) were my top choices. But after looking at the quotes, Regen was cheaper, and I knew Regen was a decent clinic so I informed her of my choice. Few months later, I was told Regen's management wasn't the best, with nurses leaving and such therefore, I switched to Banobagi, although it was definitely pricier, cosmetic surgery shouldn't be something to be cheap about. I'd definitely recommend communicating with Docfinder months before a planned trip.

Arriving in Korea

Finally!!!! After months of planning my wish was finally coming true! I was picked up by a driver which I scheduled with the road manager Shin and the driver took us to the accommodation. I was actually quite skeptical whether I would actually get picked up by a driver, but I was so relived that docfinder was legit! My surgery and consultation was first thing in the morning the next day so I had to fast 4 hours prior to the operation. I met up with Anna from docfinder who would assist me with the whole surgery process. She was great! Super friendly and helpful. We took a taxi to banobagi, and luckily it wasn't too busy. Filled out forms, took pictures and had the consultation. All the ladies at the clinic were super nice and helpful and it made me feel comfortable. I met with Dr. Lee Hyun Taek to do the final review and he said that I would need full incisional with ptosis correction. Reason being is that my eyelids were sagging because I used double eyelid tape prior. The operation was definitely not cheap (4.25 mil won) but I knew that he would do a good job. The ladies at banobagi would always make sure I was able to speak and make sure it was the type of fold I wanted and what I was expecting as an outcome. So communication was no problem and I was not rushed at all.

Surgery

Near the end of consultation, they called someone to make sure the operation room was prepared for me. I was escorted by a girl named Jessie who would be with me through the whole surgery ( or at least I think so?? She was there when I went in and woke up). I had to change into my robe, wash my mouth and face, then got a blast of air for sterilization before finally entering the operating room. Throughout the whole time I was very relaxed. Jessie informed me of everything they were doing from strapping me to the bed, to inserting the IV and sedation. All I remember was a warm towel? on my face and soon enough I was dozing off. I was actually anticipating some pain when they put the local anesthesia because some have said it hurts a lot but I actually had no clue when that happened... Dr. Lee came in and I could feel him drawing on my eyes. I could also feel the cutting and stitching but there wasn't any terrible pain. I believe the surgery lasted about 1 hour and once I woke up, Jessie brought me to a room to rest a bit and after that I was sent to the changing room and went back to the lobby to see my dad and sister. Anna went out to get me my medicine and ointment. Surprisingly, I was quite lively after the surgery and I felt no pain. I was given a bag with and ice pack and hydrogen peroxide to clean my stitches. Overall, I did not experience any pain during and after the surgery.

Recovery/Stitch Removal 

While recovering, I was told to stay away from salty and spicy foods along with seafood. I iced my eyes and walked around a lot to reduce swelling. At first I felt a little self conscious walking around with puffy stitched eyes, but you'll soon realize there are many people in the same situation, so it's nothing to worry about. The swelling went down quickly the first few days post op, but have slowed down after stitch removal.
 

Anna came to meet me once again to remove the stitches which was 9 days post op. Firstly, I was sent in a room for laser deswelling treatment, in which I just lay down for 20 minutes under an incredibly bright light. Not exactly sure how it really helped with deswelling but ok... Before taking out the stitches, Dr. Lee came to check on my eyes asking me to open and close. Stitch removal was also pretty painless, just little pokes and that's it. The day I was there was extremely busy with workers running all over the place but it was nice to see my consultant visit me and ask me how I liked my eyes and also my translator who was making sure I did everything. Also a bonus was that theres a tax refund! Anna was pretty busy juggling other clients at the clinic but she still managed to meet up with me at the end offering a ride somewhere. 

Overall

I must say my trip to Korea was great and went smoothly because of docfinder. Having the driver transport us to and from the airport was definitely a plus because airport limos are pricey. Anna was great helper, and Shin was quick to reply. As of right now I am 18 days post op and I am really happy with the way it is healing. The scars aren't too prominent considering that I did full incisional and swelling is going down slowly but surely! I would definitely recommend docfinder to those who are unfamiliar with the cosmetic surgery process and korea in general. If anyone has any questions I'd be glad to help!

 

Edited June 25, 2016 by shootia

[samsty]

In Los Angeles, I went to Drs Andrew Won Bae, Charles Kim and Andrew Choi for consults for double eyelid with ptosis correction. Have any of you had recent surgeries from any of them?  Can you please share your results? Thank you!

[MissAria]

@samsty Hi Smasty, I don't have experience to share but if you search in this topic there are people who got surgery with a Dr. Choi in LA. Try to use the search engine of soompi to find the post, or google XD, because it would take a long time to find back the posts.

@shootia Hi Shootia, woow the price is really expensive. Another reason, I won't be able to get it done. It seems like you didn't know the exact price before you get consultation. How do you make big payment in a foreign country? After how many days after surgery your eyes looks fine to not wear sunglasses to hide them. I'm afraid if one day I can do the surgery, that I have to hide for longer than 1 month.

[eveyrox33]

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

im in Korea right now and also Korean.

Ive went to two clinics last Friday they were Banobagi and reborn.

ive went to Banobagi first and the staff were so nice and there was even an English translator named Jane she was so nice. However, the Doctor told me I need incisional because my eyelids are fatty and a ptosis coreection. He only showed me one way my eyelids could look.

The second clinic was smaller and there was only one doctor but he showed many different ways my eyelids can turnout. Differently this doctor said I should do the suture method and that he could take out some fat..but reading articles it said they can't do that with the suture method. And also a ptosis correction

Who should I believe???? And which method? I'm so confused

is it really true that it's about skill level bc the lady at reborn said that.. But the doctor at Banobagi was so nice and said if he could he would do suture but mine are too thick

any advice would be awesome bc I need to make a decision soon. I leave back on the 19th of July and need to book soon

Edited July 2, 2016 by eveyrox33

[shootia]

@MissAria Hi! It was super expensive and I believe it was also because I was a tourist that they were able to jack up the price or maybe my eyes are just really messed up. I got quotes prior from Docfinder and the one for banobagi only included non incisional. I also emailed banobagi separately and they gave me a higher price than I paid. Since I did incisional it takes a long time to heal. I basically wore my hat on for my whole trip which was two weeks. After that I don't need to hide. My eyes are still slightly swollen but it's not terrible. For payment, I did cash, banobagi offers credit but I wanted to avoid service charges.

 

@eveyrox33 I'm not sure if you can take fat out of your eyes using the suture method. If it's non incisional how are you supposed to take fat out if you don't cut it open? If your eyes are fatty I think incisional would be better since suture can be reversed and with fatty lids the longevity of the fold wont last long. I went to banobagi and I'm super happy with my lids but it's pricey!! I did incision ptosis correction. I also heard lots of good things about the doctor at banobagi so I wanted it done by him. I've never heard of reborn though so I'm not sure how good they are. 

[MissAria]

@shootia  That's bringing a lot of cash abroad or removing a lot in cash in a local bank there. It seems complicated, and I would feel so scared to lose it on my way.

Anyone knows if they are good plastic surgeron for double eyelid in Japan or Taiwan ? Maybe the price is cheaper there...

I know Queenie Chan a youtuber had her eyelid surgery done in Taiwan, the name of the clinic or surgeron was not mentionned. Her eyes looks nice...

South Korea is preferred these days, but maybe there are good plastic surgery done elsewhere too...

Thanks for helping !

[eveyrox33]

On July 4, 2016 at 0:17 PM, shootia said:

@MissAria Hi! It was super expensive and I believe it was also because I was a tourist that they were able to jack up the price or maybe my eyes are just really messed up. I got quotes prior from Docfinder and the one for banobagi only included non incisional. I also emailed banobagi separately and they gave me a higher price than I paid. Since I did incisional it takes a long time to heal. I basically wore my hat on for my whole trip which was two weeks. After that I don't need to hide. My eyes are still slightly swollen but it's not terrible. For payment, I did cash, banobagi offers credit but I wanted to avoid service charges.

 

@eveyrox33 I'm not sure if you can take fat out of your eyes using the suture method. If it's non incisional how are you supposed to take fat out if you don't cut it open? If your eyes are fatty I think incisional would be better since suture can be reversed and with fatty lids the longevity of the fold wont last long. I went to banobagi and I'm super happy with my lids but it's pricey!! I did incision ptosis correction. I also heard lots of good things about the doctor at banobagi so I wanted it done by him. I've never heard of reborn though so I'm not sure how good they are. 

I got DTS+ ptosis correction+ fat removal at reborn. The lady at banobagi gave me a discount because my grandma knew the doctors so the prices at both clinics were very close. Overall, I liked Banobagi clinic more and the staff were excellent but incisional double eyelid surgery was just too permanent for me. You can't go back and it's final. So I picked reborn. I'm in day two of swelling tho. But can I just say that double eyelid surgery is not that bad at all.. Like the procedure did not hurt at all for me but the after care is a bit of a hassle. 

(How do u put up pictures I'm still new here lmao)

[shootia]

@eveyrox33 Hope you're happy with the results!! Theres a "insert other media" on the bottom right corner of the reply box. May I ask how much banobagi quoted you?