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Anyone in Toronto, Canada have any good doctors that perform this surgery?  thanks.

 

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Guest Karla Davis

Whenever I leave it alone, it turns into a monolid and it makes me feel more tired because it closes up my eye more and strains my eyes because it makes it more difficult to look up. I just recently considered surgery because I've been drinking tons of water lately making both creases disappear because the puffiness and basically...it's annoying and uncomfortable. So, I am considering eyelid surgery in Korea which is cheaper than US, any thoughts?

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Guest RedRibbon

Hey guys, so I'm having the consultation sometime in winter this year, and was wondering what kind of question I should expect from the doctor. I know the consultation varies from person to person, but what question did your surgeons ask you? I definitely want to make sure I go there prepared... Thanks in advance for answers!

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I just know dont to be exposed to the sunshine or some strong light.

 

 

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Guest anne0722

Hi, Has anyone heard of Andrew Won Bae Plastic Surgeon in Los Angeles. I'm thinking about doing double eyelid but I did not find anything under this forum so if anyone has personally or know anyone who did their eyes with him I appreciate your feedback. He said I need full incision because my eyes are droopy. Thank you so much!!!

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:sweatingbullets: There's a lot of new members looking for more information. Sorry people, I can't help you... This topic is dead.

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Hi,

Just letting everyone know that I will definitely be going to Seoul during Feb 2016, will be planning to book my tickets soon. If anyone is going during that time and would like to meet up that could be fun. My partner will be joining me for support, but because I'm not Korean it'll be nice to make a new friend there.

I am still deciding to go to either Banobagi or JW, I had no idea about this forum until recently and I was scrolling through the comments. A lot of people said they wanted to go to Teuim which is where I actually wanted to get mine done, but after finding some information I definitely no longer want to go there. I was informed that there has been many cases of infections after surgery and lots of complaints, also at Grand Plastic Surgery recently a patient died there and they also found out they switch doctors during surgery. All this information is not a rumour but actual facts. I just want to let everyone know so they can make the best decision, I have had eyelid surgery before and it went terribly wrong so this second time will be a revision. 

All the information was provided to me by docfinderkorea.com which they responded when I queried about these clinics. 

"Docfinder Korea only selects hospitals that have been accredited by Ministry of health and welfare, ensuring high quality care. " That's what it says on their website. 

 

Anyone interested in going to Korea for surgery should definitely email them, they will also help you with translation while you are there as well. LOL btw i am not sponsored to say all this I just genuinely care because I understand the stress about getting surgery done and since I have done it before I want to make sure no mistakes happen ever again. Thanks to a Youtube video I was able to find out about their services. I truly hope that this time will be the last time I need to do surgery on my eyelids. Good luck to everyone else that is also wanting to do this and make themselves more happy.

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Guest tangytomatoes

I was also interested in docfinderkorea at first but honestly, after reading people's experiences with it, I'm a bit iffy about it now. I first found out about them because a lot of bloggers (mostly Singaporean bloggers) talk about them and their surgery experience and tbh, it looks sponsored. If it wasn't sponsored then they would talk about their plastic surgery experience and then add the fact that docfinderkorea really helped them through it but the WHOLE POST was about docfinderkorea and only a bit was about their actual surgery. The fact that docfinder says that they provide all services for free was a huge red flag already. It's only free cause they'll take a chunk of money from the clinics for introducing you to that clinic expect they do this without your knowledge, which means most likely that your surgery fee will be more than if you didn't go through docfinder. That behavior makes them seem untrustworthy to me. And from other people's experiences, it seems like they recommend the same few clinics to people since they probably have some sort of business relationship with those clinics. Then they'll badmouth other clinics to discourage people from going there but who knows if everything they say is true. Even though they told you about the scandal at Grand and how a person died there, that scandal is already common knowledge. It's even on Youtube and that video had over a million views. Most people also know how a girl got permanent brain damage from there. That's just my personal view. Of course, I can see people not mind that they get commission from clinics and that their surgery fee increased since they get the benefit of a company doing all this work for them and giving them valuable info that they otherwise might not have found.

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Guest Beverly MOORE

Its kinda scared. I think you should ask some eye specialist. 

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On 2015-12-16 at 4:14 AM, tangytomatoes said:

I was also interested in docfinderkorea at first but honestly, after reading people's experiences with it, I'm a bit iffy about it now. I first found out about them because a lot of bloggers (mostly Singaporean bloggers) talk about them and their surgery experience and tbh, it looks sponsored. If it wasn't sponsored then they would talk about their plastic surgery experience and then add the fact that docfinderkorea really helped them through it but the WHOLE POST was about docfinderkorea and only a bit was about their actual surgery. The fact that docfinder says that they provide all services for free was a huge red flag already. It's only free cause they'll take a chunk of money from the clinics for introducing you to that clinic expect they do this without your knowledge, which means most likely that your surgery fee will be more than if you didn't go through docfinder. That behavior makes them seem untrustworthy to me. And from other people's experiences, it seems like they recommend the same few clinics to people since they probably have some sort of business relationship with those clinics. Then they'll badmouth other clinics to discourage people from going there but who knows if everything they say is true. Even though they told you about the scandal at Grand and how a person died there, that scandal is already common knowledge. It's even on Youtube and that video had over a million views. Most people also know how a girl got permanent brain damage from there. That's just my personal view. Of course, I can see people not mind that they get commission from clinics and that their surgery fee increased since they get the benefit of a company doing all this work for them and giving them valuable info that they otherwise might not have found.

Quite interesting. It makes sense what you are doubting here that somehow a free service has to cover their cost somewhere. I think when they know you are a foreigner looking for plastic surgery they might charge more... Like, how could you know if it costs cheaper, you don't know the language at all. Searching through online isn't easy when what all I can do is to look in english reviews (therefore foreigners reviews). Still, I feel if I want to do plastic surgery I would like to go to a asian country because they do the procedure more often and they seem to be better at it. I personally know some people who did eyelid surgery locally and it doesn't look that good. So, if I really want to get double eyelid surgery I must take the plane to somewhere else. I find the youtuber sunnydahye eyelid surgery turned out so well that I felt I really would chose the same clinic as her.

@lcath If you like her results, maybe she mentionned somewhere in her video where she had her surgery in Toronto. I don't know more about it, it's the only information I found online about double surgery in Toronto Part2 double eyelid surgery, you can find part 1 too in her channel.

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Hi everyone!

UPDATE

As you all know, I decided to go with Dr. Andrew Choi from VIPSURGERY in Koreatown, CA. I put down my initial deposit in September to secure my surgery date for December 15th, 2015; right after my finals were over. I could have done it earlier, but decided against it since I was getting the incisional method done and needed at LEAST two weeks recovery/hiding time. When I went to put down my deposit, they had me sign the initial contracts, gave me a prescription for special ointment (which I picked up right away at the pharmacy located downstairs, though you can do it the day of the surgery-MAKE SURE YOU ASK FOR THE GENERIC ONE because it's cheaper, about $20), and gave me a copy of instructions for pre and post op care. The day before the surgery the office gave me a call to remind me of my surgery date.

 

Before the Surgery:

The day before the surgery I was feeling excited, nervous, and scared. I was mainly worried about the pain, since I've heard that they inject shots into your eyes and it hurts like a richard simmons. My surgery was scheduled for 1:30 pm so starting at midnight, I did not drink or eat anything (as per instruction from my doctor). I also was watching lots of Youtube videos, reading blogs, and going through the past Soompi posts here to prep myself emotionally for the surgery.

I woke up around 11:00 am the next morning and made sure to wear clothing that I could easily slip off through my legs. Avoid wearing shirts that you have to take off "over-the-head". I wore sweatpants, a cami, and a zip-up hoodie. Do not wear jewelry, rings, or anything like that. Also make sure to come in with a clean, matte face. Don't go overboard with the lotion. This is very important: make sure to have someone with you the ENTIRE day of your surgery. You will NOT be able to drive, you WILL need someone to take care of you. The office cannot legally let you leave ALONE. Do not do it!

When I got to the office I had some more forms to sign-these were basically stuff like when was my last period, health history, etc. And then I gave the last half of the payment. Once all the nitty gritty stuff was handled, I went in for a final consultation for Dr. Choi. Since we already discussed everything that I wanted done with my eyes, this part was very quick. He took a picture of my eyes, did another examination of them, measured, marked, and got my final approval of the size that I wanted (6mm-which they give you a form to sign off on). He was nice enough to show me what 6.5 mm would look like, since I was sort of undecided on 6mm-6.5mm when we first met, but once he showed me I decided against it since it was too large for my liking. He asked me if I had any final questions before the surgery and I asked him when I was suppose to use warm compresses since the paper instructions didn't specify. He said you ice only when the stitches are IN, and warm when the stitches are OUT. 

After the final consultation was done, I was finally ready for surgery! The nurse gave me a pill to swallow. She said it was for relaxation. I am not sure what it was, but I have a suspicion it was Valium. Then she gave me the surgery clothes (the kind that ties up in the back) and instructed me to change. I changed, and walked into the surgery room, took off my shoes, and climbed up onto the surgery table. The nurse tied up my hair and the another nurse started the IV. This was the ONLY part in the entire process where I felt any sort of pain. I don't think I am someone with a particularly high pain tolerance, but this was just as painful as getting a shot. The entire time, the nurse who tied up my hair tried to make me feel comfortable by providing some small talk. She asked if I felt anything and I said, "No, I am waiting for it to kick in!" She laughed and said to just close my eyes and relax.

I did so and the next thing I know, I am "asleep". I felt NO pain at all during the actual surgery. I only remember some parts where I could feel some tugging and some "buzzing" or vibration sensations in my eyelids. I also remember Dr. Choi telling me to open my eyes for him. But for the most part it was like I was nervously looking up at the lights of the operating table, waiting for the drugs to kick in and then BAM! I was done. I was very groggy when I woke up and the nurse helped me get off the table. I was functional enough to change back into my clothes by myself and then was led into a room where they iced my eyes for 20 mins or so. The nurse also gave me some Tylenol.  I was taken out into the main office where the nurse had prepped a goodie bag filled with two ice/hot packs, Q-tips, instructions, and gauze. The doctor took one more final look at me and told me that I would experience bleeding ONLY today and that I should avoid watching shows or doing anything that might make me cry, angry, scared, etc. And that if I had excessive bleeding after the first day to IMMEDIATELY call them.

After Surgery:

I experienced some bleeding right after the surgery. They felt like tear drop rolling down my face, only it was blood. I felt very swollen and could barely open my eyes, but I felt no pain. I got nauseous after the car ride back and ended up throwing up (luckily I didn't eat anything yet). I was able to stomach some light soup and rice and then just rested and iced my eyes.

The following week was a routine of ICE for 20 mins every hour or so, ointment, and rest. My vision got blurry due to the ointment running into my eyes. I experienced very, very slight bleeding in my inner corners-like tiny, tiny pin prick stains in the gauze (I called the office and they said this is normal as long as it is not excessive) for the first three days. Again I didn't feel any pain. I took Tylenol sporadically. I would randomly feel mild discomfort when my stitches and skin would rub up uncomfortable against each other, but that was it. I tried my hardest to eat as healthy of food as possible during the first half of the week, before I felt good enough to be back on a more regular diet. And keep my head elevated. I did experience bruising on my outer corners and above my inner corners. The skin around the area of my eye turned yellow-which I suspect it from all the icing I did. Once my stitches were out and I began to use warm compresses, my bruising is starting to go away.

I got my stitches out on day 6. I have heard other people talk about how getting their stitches out was NOT a comfortable experience and I braced myself for it. However, the nurse  (the one who gave me my IV) did a good job and I felt no pain-I was actually really surprised. I just felt the release of the stitches. After that Dr. Choi had one more look at me and said that everything looked good and asked me how I felt during the week. I said it was a lot easier than I expected and experienced virtually no pain. He instructed me to look up every once in a while to help the crease form, but not to tilt my head all the way back when I do it. He then said I can start using warm compresses and to come back for a follow up in 4 months.

PICTURES:

RIGHT AFTER SURGERY:

As you can see, I looked BUSTED UP.

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AFTER STITCHES WERE REMOVED:

Felt SO much more comfortable after the stitches were moved, but still super swollen.

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9 DAYS POST OP:

Still swollen! But I don't expect to start looking decent until a couple more weeks. I am loving the shape of my eyes though.

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LAST THOUGHTS:

I am still currently in the process of healing, but I am optimistic and happy. I am so glad that I got it done and CANNOT WAIT until I can start wearing makeup/looking like a normal person. It's worth noting that if you get the incisional method like me, to be PATIENT. EXPECT to look terrible the first two weeks aftet surgery. EXPECT to see micro improvements each and everyday. Be diligent with the instructions that your doctors give you and make sure to communicate with them. They are there to support you. Also, it helps to talk and get support from your family and friends. My boyfriend took care of me the first week of my recovery and constantly told me how pretty I was (LOL LIES), but it def. helped with my spirits. I also spent A LOT of my time looking at makeup tutorials and saying to myself, "I WILL BE ABLE TO DO THIS SOOON!!".

Another thing: I AM SO HAPPY that I chose Dr. Choi. He and his staff were so wonderful. I had such an easy surgery. And the entire time he kept checking up on me. So I totally recommend him.

Also: If any of you have questions or want to talk/support, please feel feel to PM me! I check once in a while and I will get back to you! Even if it takes me a couple of weeks! :) I will keep you guys updated on my progress.

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On 11/18/2015 at 4:31 PM, anne0722 said:

Hi, Has anyone heard of Andrew Won Bae Plastic Surgeon in Los Angeles. I'm thinking about doing double eyelid but I did not find anything under this forum so if anyone has personally or know anyone who did their eyes with him I appreciate your feedback. He said I need full incision because my eyes are droopy. Thank you so much!!!

I don't know if you still need this info but I had mine done by him 7 months ago! I had full incision with med epi.

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hi everyone!! i'm an 18 year old living in sydney, australia. I actually have a surgery date booked on the 28th jan, with a doctor whom i trust whole heartedly because during my consultations, he has shown me that he knows what's best for me and really knows his stuff! his staff is really friendly too so i feel like im in good hands. however, i've been looking at people's double eyelid surgery experience and the swelling post surgery is really starting to scare me. mine would be an incisional double eyelid surgery so it'll take longer to heal? so i know that from surgery to stitch removal, the swelling will be quite bad and quite scary. when will it start to look presentable? aka not so swollen and i can go out with minimal makeup :/ would 14 days post surgery be okay? 3 weeks..? i just want to know what to expect even though it varies for everyone 

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On 7/1/2016 at 6:12 PM, seojoohyun9 said:

hi everyone!! i'm an 18 year old living in sydney, australia. I actually have a surgery date booked on the 28th jan, with a doctor whom i trust whole heartedly because during my consultations, he has shown me that he knows what's best for me and really knows his stuff! his staff is really friendly too so i feel like im in good hands. however, i've been looking at people's double eyelid surgery experience and the swelling post surgery is really starting to scare me. mine would be an incisional double eyelid surgery so it'll take longer to heal? so i know that from surgery to stitch removal, the swelling will be quite bad and quite scary. when will it start to look presentable? aka not so swollen and i can go out with minimal makeup :/ would 14 days post surgery be okay? 3 weeks..? i just want to know what to expect even though it varies for everyone 

I think your Doctor will know to answer your question.

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On 1/7/2016 at 3:12 PM, seojoohyun9 said:

hi everyone!! i'm an 18 year old living in sydney, australia. I actually have a surgery date booked on the 28th jan, with a doctor whom i trust whole heartedly because during my consultations, he has shown me that he knows what's best for me and really knows his stuff! his staff is really friendly too so i feel like im in good hands. however, i've been looking at people's double eyelid surgery experience and the swelling post surgery is really starting to scare me. mine would be an incisional double eyelid surgery so it'll take longer to heal? so i know that from surgery to stitch removal, the swelling will be quite bad and quite scary. when will it start to look presentable? aka not so swollen and i can go out with minimal makeup :/ would 14 days post surgery be okay? 3 weeks..? i just want to know what to expect even though it varies for everyone 

 

Yes. Ask your doctor. But generally speaking, you should be able to put on makeup two weeks after your surgery or once your stitches are out. Though I wouldn't recommend doing it till around a month. I am at 1 month post op (incisional) and the last couple of weeks I was too sore to even put on anything but mascara.

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Hello everyone! Very quick minor update on how my recovery is going so far.

I had a complication with my crease not forming properly on my left eye. The ends were creasing fine, but the middle portion wasn't going into the crease-if that makes sense. Instead, creases were forming above and below my incisional line. I thought at first it was just swelling and waited a couple of weeks to see if it was going to even out. But it didn't. I emailed Dr. Choi about it and his office immediately booked me for a correction. However, due to an accident, he had to post pone my correction till the next week. Thus, I got mine revised exactly one month after my surgery.

When I went in the office he looked at my eye and sort of scolded me because I didn't tell him earlier about the complication. He said the reason why he was so worried about it was because revising the crease a month into recovery makes it much harder to do, since the scar tissue is healing. He said if I had notified him earlier, stitching it up would have been a simple solution, but because it's a month in there was a possibility of failure with the stitching method and that they might have to reoperate. He said he was going to restitch the eye and see if it took.

The restitching was not terribly painful. He just injected local anesthetic, cut off the scabbing, and restitched the crease. I was sort of in pain for about 3-4 hours immediately after, but it wasn't anything too bad. 4 days later I came back into the office, got the stitches taken out, and THANKFULLY-the crease formed normally! 

Dr. Choi reexamined me and told me that after the operation, he realized that the reason why my crease wasn't forming properly was because my left eye basically "overscabbed" the incisional line, preventing the crease from folding into the line. Once he cut off the scab and restitched the eye, it was perfect! 

Crease not forming

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Right after stitches on my left eye (your right) were taken out. Crease now forming properly.

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Anyways, I think this is an important thing to bring up esp. for those that are thinking about going overseas to get their surgery done. If a complication arises, like it did for me, it is IMPERATIVE that you be able to contact your doctor and have any issues corrected.  It is also vital that you keep an open line of communication with your doctor and let him/her know IMMEDIATELY if you have any complications! The sooner something can be fixed, the better!

 

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Hi everyone, 

I have planned to go to Korea next month in Feb, I am worried now as I did get help from docfinderkorea but someone said that they might actually charge extra at the specific clinic for suggesting a client. I hope that isn't true but I can now understand if it is. I have decided to go to Banobagi since Sunny Dahye got her eyes done there and they look so amazing and natural. I truly hope they will do a good job on me because I am doing a revision and I want to stop feeling so depressed about my current eyes now from the previous horrible surgery. 

I will keep updates on how everything is going. So nervous because I don't know how to speak Korean or know anyone there. 

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