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The reason why JW was bending down and looking at the man. Cr as tagged. Many asked me why I like JW and why I like him for so long?  THIS. Plus his acting. 

40 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

In times of pandemic detectives are usually used to trace the possible carriers, like tracing their travel history, number of persons the carrier had come in contact etc. So, I think Tae Hui would have lot more to offer during such kind of situations and yeah in the series he is really good at tracking people, so he'll use that skill to track infected cases for isolation and chances are there that he might even get himself infected.:o

 

Ah. That's a good point. I don't know if the police have been doing that where I'm from (although we do have patrolling officers now handing out tickets to people who haven't been following social distancing rules), but if they have in your country of origin (which I see now is India), then that's worth considering. I think Korea's been using a lot of cell phone data to track who's been exposed to the virus so they can have access to testing, be told to self-isolate, etc., so maybe Tae Hui would have some hand in that as well.

 

Going off on a tangent, where are you from, @yukinen?

 

I actually came by just to post a quick Instagram update, and it's really a reflection of just how much the world has changed in just a few months:

 

 

If anyone told me even 2-3 months ago that my first instinct seeing this would be to freak out and think, "Wait - why is JW at a wedding? Why is he with/around other people? Why isn't he following the rules???", I'd say they were nuts. :P But that's the reality we now live in, where people will even police each other online re: social distancing.

 

And before anyone does freak out...it's okay. Turns out these pics were from last fall and just got posted now :) 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Welcome, @yukinen - and I also owe @kireeti2 a formal welcome to this forum as well.

 

Thank you so much for the welcome, and for the tips as well. I'd be on my best behaviour and not swear. :)

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

That's okay - and thanks for your responses! I'm having a lot of fun reading your takes on these characters, and want to invite you to add your spiel more often in the future.

 

32 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

Thank you for that :) and  I hope we get along :)

 

I hope to get along with you guys! I promise to try my best and share my thoughts about things if I can, but pls don't expect too much of me. I've been known to be inactive in most of the forums I join. :sweatingbullets: But I love Joo Won and I'd be happy to tell you guys my insights too (whenever I have them and is able to put them properly into words).

 

I've been Joo Won's fan since Bridal Mask and have watched all his other shows (some of them a very long time ago) but it's my first time actually interacting with his other fans online. Recently, I also rewatched The Good Doctor on Netflix. I thought I wasn't going to cry because it's my second time watching it but alas, I did. And I was reminded once again how good of an actor he is. I'm planning to rewatch Bridal Mask next. I was in my teens when I first watched it. It was still airing then and I remember painstakingly waiting for episodes to come out. And whenever I finally get to watch them, it would be so glorious and amazing. I don't know if my younger self is just exaggerating the memory, but that's really how I remembered it. 

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

After I did the randomized pairings, I realized this one might be a tough one. ;) Interesting to see two votes for Lee Kang To and for the reasons you guys have given so far.

 

After thinking about it some more, I did find it hard to choose. I thought people can argue that since Kang To fights injustice, he'd be worrying a lot too about others who are being treated unfairly during the whole crisis. But to me, the difference is that Kang To can actually be doing things that are extremely useful in his isolation. He can plan and think about big heists or missions on his own. Rob the rich and give them to the poor kind of stuff. He can do all this and minimize contact with others, thanks to his experience as Gaksital. He's used to working alone and when he does work with others, he does so with the bare minimum contact. While doctors need to work on individual people and a case to case basis. They need to be present on site to diagnose and treat patients. And I think it could cause more anxiety to them if they're at their homes thinking they cannot be useful to patients. I'm kind of rambling, please inform me if these doesn't make any sense lol.

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

but I do want to point out that while Gyun Woo is a bit of a rebel and a social butterfly, he's also a big stickler for the rules, working towards the greater good, etc. That's how I've observed more social or outgoing people coping with lockdown right now (i.e. "It sucks that I can't go out, but I'll do it for other people.").

 

Oh, this makes sense. I can totally see Gyun Woo telling himself it's for the greater good and taking the isolation seriously. I also just remembered, he has a pet! He wouldn't be too lonely in isolation.

 

42 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Going off on a tangent, where are you from, @yukinen?

 

I'm from the Philippines. It's been crazy here since the COVID-19 crisis. I hope you guys are staying safe and healthy during these times.

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25 minutes ago, kittyna said:

If anyone told me even 2-3 months ago that my first instinct seeing this would be to freak out and think, "Wait - why is JW at a wedding? Why is he with/around other people? Why isn't he following the rules???", I'd say they were nuts. :P But that's the reality we now live in, where people will even police each other online re: social distancing.

In other countries, yes, people might call police on each other for attending events like marriage or parties due to lock down rules, but not in South Korea; they are using different strategy to tackle the pandemic, like testing as much as they and tracking down the positive cases and give them immediate treatment. It's the only county with transparent and effective strategy to tackle the virus right now. That's what I love about South Korean society(Although it as its own shorting comings like gender equality, poverty among elderly etc). It's a kind of society which would like to enjoy rights along with duties, as you can right now it is the only country(along with Singapore and Taiwan both of them have relatively less population compared to SK) with normalcy even in the midst of pandemic. They have successfully flattened the curve and are now helping in supply of medical equipment for the  worst hit nations.

BTW, I think Joo won did spend a lot time traveling and attended lot of social gatherings after discharging from the army. I guess he missed the civilian life a lot. :sweat_smile:, I think he made lot of friends in the army too, I see he is still in touch with them through Instagram

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9 minutes ago, yukinen said:

Recently, I also rewatched The Good Doctor on Netflix. I thought I wasn't going to cry because it's my second time watching it but alas, I did.

Lol, I even cried on my 6th re-watch, his acting was phenomenal in  Good Doctor and I think no would replace him for his character on that show. But I was disappointed that he did not get any awards in K-drama awards, APAN Star Awards and Baeksang Arts Awards for his acting, since they carry more status when compared to KBS OR SBS awards.

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10 hours ago, yukinen said:

I've been Joo Won's fan since Bridal Mask and have watched all his other shows (some of them a very long time ago) but it's my first time actually interacting with his other fans online. Recently, I also rewatched The Good Doctor on Netflix. I thought I wasn't going to cry because it's my second time watching it but alas, I did. And I was reminded once again how good of an actor he is. I'm planning to rewatch Bridal Mask next. I was in my teens when I first watched it. It was still airing then and I remember painstakingly waiting for episodes to come out. And whenever I finally get to watch them, it would be so glorious and amazing. I don't know if my younger self is just exaggerating the memory, but that's really how I remembered it. 

 

"King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu" was my first - I watched it in Chinese dub with family in 2015/2016 and haven't looked back since :P For me, it was not so much the drama but JW's interviews from that time that made me like him. I really liked that he prioritized his relationship with his parents and that he took so much pride in his own innocence. I know that sounds really fake/arrogant when put into writing, but I'm sure you guys all know what I actually mean ;) 

 

But "Good Doctor" also holds a special place for me personally. I know it's not actually very realistic story-wise, but seeing a character like Park Si On - and seeing audiences in Korea and elsewhere fall for him - gives me the same warm fuzzy feelings that seeing JW's real-life persona does.

 

10 hours ago, yukinen said:

After thinking about it some more, I did find it hard to choose. I thought people can argue that since Kang To fights injustice, he'd be worrying a lot too about others who are being treated unfairly during the whole crisis. But to me, the difference is that Kang To can actually be doing things that are extremely useful in his isolation. He can plan and think about big heists or missions on his own. Rob the rich and give them to the poor kind of stuff. He can do all this and minimize contact with others, thanks to his experience as Gaksital. He's used to working alone and when he does work with others, he does so with the bare minimum contact.

 

That's true enough. The one thing I would be concerned about, though, with Kang To's character is that he tends to have a very narrow focus: he is predominantly motivated by his own care for his family and loved ones, but any discussion of the bigger picture or greater good tends to go over his head. He does get better at that towards the end of the drama, but I do remember that he spent much of his early time as Gaksital genuinely confused about why and how resistance members could justify their self-sacrifice. So, for Kang To to stay in quarantine, I think, he would need to be given a personal reason for doing so; just saying it's for the good of society might not be enough.

 

10 hours ago, yukinen said:

While doctors need to work on individual people and a case to case basis. They need to be present on site to diagnose and treat patients. And I think it could cause more anxiety to them if they're at their homes thinking they cannot be useful to patients.

 

I can see that being the case for both of our doctor characters - Kim Tae Hyun and Park Si On. Their anxiety levels would probably be through the roof, unless they learn to just focus on each individual moment and patient with clinical detachment. I guess Tae Hyun would be slightly(?) better at that than Park Si On? Maybe? But yeah, it'd be tough.

 

10 hours ago, yukinen said:

Oh, this makes sense. I can totally see Gyun Woo telling himself it's for the greater good and taking the isolation seriously. I also just remembered, he has a pet! He wouldn't be too lonely in isolation.

 

lol - yes. The cute doggy helps :D 

 

10 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

In other countries, yes, people might call police on each other for attending events like marriage or parties due to lock down rules, but not in South Korea; they are using different strategy to tackle the pandemic, like testing as much as they and tracking down the positive cases and give them immediate treatment. It's the only county with transparent and effective strategy to tackle the virus right now. That's what I love about South Korean society(Although it as its own shorting comings like gender equality, poverty among elderly etc). It's a kind of society which would like to enjoy rights along with duties, as you can right now it is the only country(along with Singapore and Taiwan both of them have relatively less population compared to SK) with normalcy even in the midst of pandemic. They have successfully flattened the curve and are now helping in supply of medical equipment for the  worst hit nations.

 

Oh, yes, I'm very much aware of that ;) I was just thinking about how I've gotten so used to seeing everybody stay at home that it actually now feels weird - and maybe even a little bit wrong - to see pictures of people at public events. :P 

 

9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Lol, I even cried on my 6th re-watch, his acting was phenomenal in  Good Doctor and I think no would replace him for his character on that show. But I was disappointed that he did not get any awards in K-drama awards, APAN Star Awards and Baeksang Arts Awards for his acting, since they carry more status when compared to KBS OR SBS awards.

 

He didn't? :blink: Oh...I always assumed he did, given how well-commended his performance was in "Good Doctor". Guess you learn something new every day.

 

And now, the thing I actually came back online for: Preview 3 of my upcoming installment for Seolleim in Salzburg!

 

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Golden light streams in through the window. I turn to glance at it, squinting slightly to make out the rooftops glowing brightly in the distance.

 

The sun will be setting soon; enough practice for one day.

 

As I start to gather up my sheet music with one hand, I grab my phone from my bag with the other to turn the sound back on. And that’s when I notice the icon on the screen informing me of an unread text message.

 

Could it be Nae Il? With our increased practice time due to this upcoming tour on top of our upcoming solo recitals this spring, it’s been a lot harder to coordinate our schedules than usual. Today, for instance, she was supposed to go home straight after her classes without waiting for me and get a head start on reheating last night’s leftovers for tonight’s dinner – has she forgotten?

 

I suppress a smile at the mental image that comes to my mind – Nae Il rummaging through our refrigerator for food whilst missing the containers I’d already placed there – but when I actually unlock the screen, I discover a message not from her, but from the conducting department’s secretary:

 

Please report to the Department Office ASAP. There is someone here who is asking for you.

 

I glance at the timestamp, jolting when I discover that the message had been sent close to half an hour ago.

 

Aish.

 

Cursing myself for not checking my phone sooner, I hastily pack up everything that’s left, just barely remembering to turn off the light as I race out the door. Fortunately, the hallways are empty – most students and staff either already gone home or holed up in the practice rooms on either side for some evening practice of their own – so I make it to the office in record time. Still, there’s no denying that were it not for my late arrival, the secretary would have already finished up work for the evening.

 

Bursting through the door, I head straight for the reception desk. “My apologies for the wait,” I gasp out to the secretary who rises to greet me. “I only just got your message.”

 

My shortness of breath must confirm my excuse, because the young woman now cracks a small sympathetic smile at me. “I understand.” She gestures behind me to the seating area in the corner. “Fortunately, your guest is still here.”

 

Right.

 

Knowing that I must look quite disheveled from both my run and the practice session that preceded it, I try my best to straighten up my appearance: brushing my hair back with one hand to try to get my bangs back into place and giving my jacket a sharp tug on the hem. Then, finally feeling up to the task, I turn around, getting my first glimpse of the woman seated there.

 

She is young – probably no more than a few years older than me – and more striking than beautiful, with delicately refined features and dark eyes. Her equally dark hair is pulled severely back in a sleek low ponytail, and she is dressed simply in a black tailored skirt suit, a slim leather briefcase held demurely in her lap.

 

But it’s the woman’s imperious – almost arrogant – bearing that stands out the most. Head held high even as she scans me over with her eyes, she is clearly unimpressed by what she’s seen of me thus far.

 

The look she gives me is so like the one I’ve received countless times from Abeoji that the same years-old instincts take over. Standing up ramrod straight, I greet her with a slight bow from the waist.

 

“Pleased to meet you. Cha Yoo Jin, at your service.”

 

The woman’s expression softens slightly, but she still maintains the same cool formality when she stands up to offer me a handshake.

 

“Elise Steiner,” she answers, now handing me her business card as well. “At yours.”

 

I’d guessed that’s who she was from my first glance, but hearing it confirmed gives me at least some sense of where this is going. “Did the Professor send you? Because of the tour?”

 

Had I jumped straight to the point like this in Korea, people might have been offended. However, from the tiny ghost of a smile Elise now gives me, it’s clear that I’d correctly assessed her preference not to dwell too long on small talk.

 

“No.” She glances down at me – with her natural height and her high-heeled shoes, she is rather unnervingly taller than me. “I am here for something else.”

 

It’s a silent request for more time, as well as a private place to talk. So, nodding to indicate my understanding, I gesture for Elise to join me out in the hallway, after which I take the lead. As we make our way through the campus building and out onto the street, I call Nae Il to let her know what’s going on.

 

She peppers me with questions, mostly about whether Elise’s actual person matches what we’ve heard about her from the Professor. However, after I refuse to answer, she switches tactics: “How long will you be, Orabang?”

 

I shake my head. “I don’t know. So go ahead and start dinner without me.” Even though she can’t see me, I raise an eyebrow anyway as I add jokingly, “Just don’t eat everything.”

 

Nae Il laughs. “Arasseo. Gwenchana, Orabang – I’ll save you a plate.”

 

Elise looks on, an unreadable expression on her face, throughout my entire call, answering with only a succinct nod when I inform her who I was speaking to. As we make our down the busy main street just outside the Mozarteum, I notice out of the corner of my eye just how commanding a presence she has: even though, as the local and presumably the host, I’m the one leading the way, she feels like the one in charge as she walks by my side at a clipped pace, looking straight ahead in absolute silence.

 

All this I take in as I guide her to my intended destination. The sun is close to setting right now, the street and everything on it bathed in its gleaming golden light. At this hour, many of the cafés and restaurants in the area will be filling up with hungry patrons: far from conducive for what sounds like a serious discussion for business. So, with little options left, I bring Elise to my favourite quiet public place in Salzburg:

 

Fridrich.

 

We are literally the first customers of the night, arriving at the exact moment when Bernd – Fridrich’s elderly owner and main bartender – unlocks the door from the inside. Beaming at the sight of us, he throws the door open and beckons us inside with a cheery greeting.

 

Just as expected, Elise is suitably impressed by the tiny wine bar’s cozy cave-like atmosphere. She stays near the entrance, looking over the various vintage art prints and posters decorating the walls while I make my way to the bar to place an order. Bernd takes it affably, his hands not even skipping a beat as he wipes down the row of glasses arranged on the counter. He does, however, shoot a fleeting glance over my shoulder in Elise’s direction.

 

“So, kid: who’s the lady?” His mouth twitches in wry amusement. “Your girlfriend?”

 

I tense up, sensing the glare that Elise shoots straight into my back at Bernd’s question, and shake my head. “We’re here for business.”

 

While I doubt Bernd actually believes me, he is far too professional to ask any further on the subject. Instead, after calling out for Elise to help herself to whichever seat she wants, he offers me first choice on tonight’s music.

 

I answer with a sly smile. “You already know what I like.”

 

As I join Elise at the table she has chosen – a small one tucked away in a corner hidden by the entryway – Bernd heads for his shelf of vinyl records to make his selection. Just as I thought, within seconds, the soft sound of jazz piano drifts out to us from behind the counter, in seeming perfect time with the waitress who now approaches our table with two glasses of white wine.

 

“Personally, I do prefer classical,” I explain to Elise once we are left to ourselves again. “But this is as close to that as we’re going to get around here.”

 

For etiquette’s sake, we start with a quick toast and shared first sip, the wine – crisp and dry – going down easily with just the slightest bite. Then, laying my crossed arms on the table to show I’m ready, I ask Elise what it is she wants to say to me.

 

Sure enough, she jumps straight to business. “I have an offer for you – regarding Seol Nae Il.”

 

I did say something about a new(-ish) female character in the cast, and here she is!

 

(By the way, her surname is one I chose myself, since none is ever given in the drama. So don't take it as fact.)

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2 hours ago, kittyna said:

I shake my head. “I don’t know. So go ahead and start dinner without me.” Even though she can’t see me, I raise an eyebrow anyway as I add jokingly, “Just don’t eat everything.”

Lol:D

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Sure enough, she jumps straight to business. “I have an offer for you – regarding Seol Nae Il.”

Intriguing, I wonder what it is? Guess  I have to wait until next episode :grin:

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First of all, a few Instagram updates:

 

Someone gave a shoutout to JW, and he reposted it in an Instagram story

 

 

And he got a care package from a friend:

 

 

Secondly...we're moving on to ROUND TWO of my "JW drama self-isolation tournament poll" thing :P 

 

(If you missed the chance to vote the first time around, don't worry - you can always jump in during this round, or the big final when it happens.)

 

So, first things first, allow me to cast my own votes. Actually, holding off on deciding until the end is a lot of fun - you guys all had such strong valid reasons for voting differently from my initial knee-jerk response, so most of these wound up being really close contests (no surprise which one out of these four was an easy pick, though ;))

 

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1. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Lee Kang To

b - Kim Tae Hyun

 

While it's true that Tae Hyun is the one who would be out in public more often by default (since he is a doctor, and the type who would literally travel to wherever there's an outbreak - say, Daegu - and he's needed the most), the deciding factor for me is the level of commitment he shows when he gives up his own wishes/desires for the good of other people. Think about how long he is willing to stay away from Yeo Jin in order to give her the chance to come back to him. The toughest thing for him to face, though, will be feelings of loneliness being separated from Yeo Jin once again (since she's a high-risk patient, he has to stay away from her throughout this whole pandemic). So I imagine there'll be lots of video chats, where he'll do his best to look and sound happier than he might actually be. But he'll endure.

 

Kang To, by contrast, is a bit more rash and impulsive in his behaviour. He is definitely really good at surviving on his own - he might even be better than Tae Hyun here - but I think that keeping a low profile and not getting involved is going to get to him sooner or later. He's going to get desperate about wanting to do something. I should also point out that the self-isolation/lockdown scenario I imagined for Kang To isn't medical, but political in nature: it's entirely possible that the Japanese would impose some sort of curfew or lockdown in order to combat the independence fighters...and under those circumstances, yeah, it'd be tough for Gaksital to stay put ;) Nor should he, but that's beside the point (since it'd still be violating the rules of this game).

 

2. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Gyun Woo

b - Hwang Tae Hui

 

This one wound up closer than I thought it would, but I'll still go with Tae Hui here. He's definitely more introverted than Gyun Woo (although I don't think Gyun Woo's an extrovert either - he's more an ambivert), which helps with these sorts of scenarios. Also, as a police officer, he's probably still an essential worker and needs to go out in public, which might help with some of the monotony that otherwise comes with staying at home all the time. I'm not 100% sure on how exactly social distancing works in Korea (I know the rules are less stringent than in most other countries, but I'm sure there is something), but I can see Tae Hui getting really frustrated if he sees anyone not abiding by the rules. Fortunately, he's got his family to vent to, since - at least where I'm from - the activities he usually resorts to for stress relief (e.g. playing sports, running, the shooting range, etc.) would be off limits.

 

I do want to say, though, that Gyun Woo would still be fine, in my opinion. He does enjoy going out and meeting with friends, but I can see him being content at home with his books and his dog :) He'll have to stay away from Hye Myung for a while, though, since she'd definitely be on the frontlines working at the clinic or otherwise helping the public in her capacity as the most modern-thinking Joseon royal I've ever seen ;) 

 

3. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Park Si On

b - Gu Ma Jun

 

lol - You guys managed to turn me around on this one. :P However, it's not so much because of what you guys said about Ma Jun...but Si On. Back when this whole pandemic started, I thought Park Si On would be just fine, even as a frontline health care worker. However, you guys pointed out - and rightly so - just how desperate he'd be to try to help and save anybody and everybody...and during a pandemic like this one, that's simply not possible. And given both his bleeding-heart nature and his struggles with anxiety, self-blame, etc. (partly due to his autism, and partly due to his traumatic childhood)...that's going to take a massive toll on his emotional and mental health. And, ultimately, his physical health - even if he doesn't catch the virus, he'll run himself ragged at this rate.

 

As for Ma Jun...my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I do remember he's an introvert, at least. I also think that, given his rather dysfunctional relationship with the rest of his family, he might not just stay at home but stay in his room (or whatever part/wing of that big huge house is his). I can also see him being the sort of person who'd embrace working from home, whether that's baking (as you guys pointed out) or taking charge of the corporate side of the Gu family business. Ma Jun will need to be careful, though, not to let his thoughts grow too dark while in isolation...he does tend to exhibit self-destructive behaviours when that happens.

 

4. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Han Gil Ro

b - Cha Yoo Jin

 

No contest here, as you guys have already pointed out. ;) Han Gil Ro will just end up stir-crazy, so I don't think a whole lot needs to be said here (not to mention that my memory of Level 7 Civil Servant is also a bit fuzzy).

 

When it comes to just living alone or spending time alone, Yoo Jin will be fine. I do, however, think that Nae Il would be with him (mostly because I'm picturing them already living together in Austria - but even if not, she'd move into his place first thing if a "stay at home" advisory ever went out in Korea, so there's that). A lot of his time would be spent working on his music, but I don't necessarily think he's tech-savvy enough to initiate the orchestra mashup videos we've seen popping up on YouTube - however, if someone else (e.g. Lee Yoon Hoo) starts up such a project and invites him to play a part, then Yoo Jin's definitely in :) I can also see him just playing music with his windows open so the neighbours can hear (which is a popular coping mechanism in Europe especially), going out for solo walks when it's not too crowded, always wearing a mask outdoors as that extra tiny bit of protection, etc.

 

(As for Nae Il - wanna give a quick shoutout here - she'd be playing piano and also joining in one of those volunteer mask-sewing networks that are cropping up all over online.)

 

BUT - heaven forbid that Nae Il ever gets sick under these circumstances. Yoo Jin has the same tendency as Park Si On to stretch himself thin for the sake of those he cares about and then blame himself for any mistakes/failures that may result, even if they weren't his fault. If anything were to happen to him, he might be okay - but if it's Nae Il...this could break him completely.

 

So, with all that said....here are the winners moving on to Round Two!

 

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1. Lee Kang To

2. Hwang Tae Hui

3. Gu Ma Jun

4. Cha Yoo Jin

 

And now, time for Round Two itself. Again - anyone is welcome to cast a vote, whether you participated in Round One or not. :) 

 

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Who will do best in self-isolation? You decide!

 

Rules/Parameters for self-isolation (since everyone's context is different, this needs a standard):

1. The character can either live alone, OR with family, a partner, or roommate(s) - use your own drama knowledge and imagination.

2.  The character is only allowed to go outside for essential purposes (e.g. getting supplies, going to work if you deem his profession to be an "essential service", etc.). If he does go out, he does so ALONE.

3. Any other communication/socialization with people outside of the character's residence (e.g. with friends, colleagues, etc.) can only be done remotely (e.g. via telephone, online, letter-writing, etc.)

4. There is limitless access to in-home recreation and entertainment (e.g. books, TV, streaming movies or music, crafts/hobbies, musical instruments, etc.), but assume ALL public recreational facilities (e.g. malls, restaurants, entertainment venues, sports facilities, etc.) are CLOSED.

 

Round Two

 

1. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Lee Kang To

b - Hwang Tae Hui

 

2. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Gu Ma Jun

b - Cha Yoo Jin

 

Same rules apply as before: feel free to share your votes either as a public reply or a DM to me, and I'll save my own vote for last before calling the final round.

 

Have fun!

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12 hours ago, kittyna said:

2. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Gyun Woo

b - Hwang Tae Hui

 

This one wound up closer than I thought it would, but I'll still go with Tae Hui here. He's definitely more introverted than Gyun Woo (although I don't think Gyun Woo's an extrovert either - he's more an ambivert), which helps with these sorts of scenarios. Also, as a police officer, he's probably still an essential worker and needs to go out in public, which might help with some of the monotony that otherwise comes with staying at home all the time. I'm not 100% sure on how exactly social distancing works in Korea (I know the rules are less stringent than in most other countries, but I'm sure there is something), but I can see Tae Hui getting really frustrated if he sees anyone not abiding by the rules. Fortunately, he's got his family to vent to, since - at least where I'm from - the activities he usually resorts to for stress relief (e.g. playing sports, running, the shooting range, etc.) would be off limits.

 

I do want to say, though, that Gyun Woo would still be fine, in my opinion. He does enjoy going out and meeting with friends, but I can see him being content at home with his books and his dog :) He'll have to stay away from Hye Myung for a while, though, since she'd definitely be on the frontlines working at the clinic or otherwise helping the public in her capacity as the most modern-thinking Joseon royal I've ever seen

I almost forgot about Tae Hui's family, and grandma. He'll will definitely do well in isolation compared to others:)

 

12 hours ago, kittyna said:

1. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Lee Kang To

b - Hwang Tae Hui

Hwang Tae Hui: Since his family lives in a secluded location and as you mentioned earlier, he has his family to support him. When it comes to Lee Kang To,  he has no family to lean on so, I guess he'll just risk his life to save others and make sure the less fortunate ones  get better medical treatment because he is Gaksital.:love:

12 hours ago, kittyna said:

2. Who do you think will do best in self-isolation?

a - Gu Ma Jun

b - Cha Yoo Jin

Cha Yoo Jin: According to the ground rules, he'll be the only guy to go out and to get supplies and probably lock doors from outside because of Seol Nae-Il so that she'll not go out. Basically it'll be his full time job making sure Nae-ll washes her hand and house stays in hygienic condition, and he'll study music while she is sleeping. So, yeah he has a better mechanism to cope with isolation than any other character.:grin:

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I might add another thing, I hope Joo won should at least do 2 or more dramas per years, because I am really running out of ideas or thinking repetitively about his characters.:tired: Btw, does anybody has any idea about Joo won's Chinese drama "Loved Express" ? What happened to it? From the trailer it seemed very promising.:dissapointed:

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Some more behind-the-scenes pics from Alice filming:

 

 

21 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

When it comes to Lee Kang To,  he has no family to lean on so, I guess he'll just risk his life to save others and make sure the less fortunate ones  get better medical treatment because he is Gaksital.:love:

 

I'm with you on this one. While I do think Lee Kang To doesn't have much patience for abstract social/political ideals, he gets very passionate about real-life justice and fairness. So, for example, in today's coronavirus context (just as a hypothetical example), he'd go after profiteers (i.e. people who buy up things like masks or disinfecting products then sell them for a massive price),  business owners who take the government bailouts to line their own pockets rather than helping their employees, etc.

 

Actually, come to think of it...Hwang Tae Hui would do that, too. But whereas Tae Hui would be acting within the letter of the law - issuing tickets/fines, arresting particularly bad offenders, etc. - Kang To would just take matters into his own hands :ph34r:

 

21 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Cha Yoo Jin: According to the ground rules, he'll be the only guy to go out and to get supplies and probably lock doors from outside because of Seol Nae-Il so that she'll not go out. Basically it'll be his full time job making sure Nae-ll washes her hand and house stays in hygienic condition, and he'll study music while she is sleeping. So, yeah he has a better mechanism to cope with isolation than any other character.:grin:

 

Actually...handling Nae Il isn't too tough. She's a very kindhearted and caring person, so really, all it would take is Yoo Jin drilling it into her head that lots of people could get sick and die if she goes out or if she isn't careful. How he'd do that, though, I'll leave to your imagination.

 

And, if nothing else, Yoo Jin will resort to using music itself as Nae Il's main distraction ;) 

 

21 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Btw, does anybody has any idea about Joo won's Chinese drama "Loved Express" ? What happened to it? From the trailer it seemed very promising.:dissapointed:

 

I wish I knew, but I don't. All I know is that joint Chinese-Korean productions like this tend to get delayed or held up for various reasons. :unsure:

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20 hours ago, kittyna said:

Actually...handling Nae Il isn't too tough. She's a very kindhearted and caring person, so really, all it would take is Yoo Jin drilling it into her head that lots of people could get sick and die if she goes out or if she isn't careful. How he'd do that, though, I'll leave to your imagination.

 

And, if nothing else, Yoo Jin will resort to using music itself as Nae Il's main distraction ;) 

 

I totally agree with you on this one:), Nae II childish behaviour sometimes smokes her kindheartedness.

 

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

I'm with you on this one. While I do think Lee Kang To doesn't have much patience for abstract social/political ideals, he gets very passionate about real-life justice and fairness. So, for example, in today's coronavirus context (just as a hypothetical example), he'd go after profiteers (i.e. people who buy up things like masks or disinfecting products then sell them for a massive price),  business owners who take the government bailouts to line their own pockets rather than helping their employees, etc.

 

Actually, come to think of it...Hwang Tae Hui would do that, too. But whereas Tae Hui would be acting within the letter of the law - issuing tickets/fines, arresting particularly bad offenders, etc. - Kang To would just take matters into his own hands

Kang To is a vigilant, so he will know how to help others by maintaining physical distance with them(kind of Korean version Batman)

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1 hour ago, kittyna said:

Some more behind-the-scenes pics from Alice filming:

These behind-the- scenes are like assurance that the filming is still going on despite the ongoing pandemic:relieved: but I hope all the crew members will be safe during the shoot including Joo won(if something goes wrong it might bring bad press, not that I am only concerned about it they health is also important). Anyway, it pains me that we have to wait for another 2-4 months for the release:bawling:, I hope they will stream it also on Netflix  apart from SBS network. But, the plot makes it worth the wait and on top of that Alice has some excellent cast members ranging from Doctor prison's cast to Sky castle's,  and also it has some 3 writers, who are like veterans in writing action movies/dramas, I hope that it is packed with lot of action scenes like Yong-pal and Bridal Mask:grin:. But Joo won has some tough competition for awards like only in SBS he has to compete with Dr.Romantic 2, Stove League and The king: Eternal Monarch(In the climax, the two leads will have a heat-breaking departure :joy:). :fearful: And need to compete with Crash Landing on you(Unpopular opinion: Which was the predictable plot high on melodrama and cringey moments), Itaewon class(Which has good side story, like breaking stereotypes but climax was butchered) in K-drama awards:fearful:. I think only way Joo won can beat them is by getting at least 30% avg ratings, difficult but not impossible :sweat_smile:

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17 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I totally agree with you on this one:), Nae II childish behaviour sometimes smokes her kindheartedness.

 

Actually, speaking of Yoo Jin and Nae Il, what do you guys think of this post I stumbled across on Instagram?

 

Spoiler

 

Yeah, I think that says it all :P 

 

18 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Kang To is a vigilant, so we will know how to help others by maintaining physical distance with them(kind of Korean version Batman)

 

That's a good point, too. I do remember that Kang To felt really awkward about all the attention/fan worship Gaksital got - that was one of the unexpected outcomes of living in his brother's shadow, I think.

 

17 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Anyway, it pains me that we have to wait for another 2-4 months for the release:bawling:, I hope they will stream it also on Netflix  apart from SBS network. But, the plot makes it worth the wait and on top of that Alice has some excellent cast members ranging from Doctor prison's cast to Sky castle's,  and also it has some 3 writers, who are like veterans in writing action movies/dramas, I hope that it is packed with lot of action scenes like Yong-pal and Bridal Mask:grin:.

 

I didn't know about the veteran writers, but that's definitely reassuring. Another thing that sound really promising about Alice is that it's a drama JW himself wanted to do.

 

There's a rather complex set of negotiations involved whenever an actor takes on a drama or film: not just between the agency and the producers, but between the agency and the actor as well. So we know there have been instances where JW and his agency had different opinions about which drama out of several offers he should take. Sometimes, in that series of negotiations, his choice wins (e.g. Gaksital or Good Doctor); and sometimes, his agency's choice wins (e.g. Catch Me - the film - and I seem to recall either Level 7 Civil Servant or Nae Il's Cantabile, but I'm not 100% sure). Generally speaking, the dramas that JW backs himself end up more successful. Like, it's not that his agency does a bad job choosing dramas (I have seen comments like that, but I disagree), but that the agency and JW himself seem to have different ideas about how he should progress as an actor. My own personal observation (i.e. I can be wrong) is that JW likes to challenge himself with more complex roles, while his agency - initially, at least - wanted to make him into the typical Hallyu star with a massive teenage female following gained via doing rom-coms.

 

17 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

But Joo won has some tough competition for awards like only in SBS he has to compete with Dr.Romantic 2, Stove League and The king: Eternal Monarch(In the climax, the two leads will have a heat-breaking departure :joy:). :fearful: And need to compete with Crash Landing on you(Unpopular opinion: Which was the predictable plot high on melodrama and cringey moments), Itaewon class(Which has good side story, like breaking stereotypes but climax was butchered) in K-drama awards:fearful:. I think only way Joo won can beat them is by getting at least 30% avg ratings, difficult but not impossible :sweat_smile:

 

I haven't watched any of the others, but I do think there will be stiff competition from Crash Landing on You because of its uber-high ratings (that tends to be a huge factor in determining who gets awards). As for just general popularity or publicity, I can also see The King: Eternal Monarch being a major contender, if for no other reason than that Lee Min Ho plays the male lead (in terms of Hallyu star factor, he still beats JW).

 

30% ratings are really tough now, with increasing competition for ratings across television networks. A KBS/SBS/MBC drama that passes 20% is already considered super-amazing, while most tend to hover around 10%; while the more exclusive cable networks (tvN, JTBC, OCN, etc.) tend to have smaller numbers, with double digits at all being really successful.

 

Finally, another behind-the-scenes update: a snack truck from fans.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I didn't know about the veteran writers, but that's definitely reassuring. Another thing that sound really promising about Alice is that it's a drama JW himself wanted to do.

 

There's a rather complex set of negotiations involved whenever an actor takes on a drama or film: not just between the agency and the producers, but between the agency and the actor as well. So we know there have been instances where JW and his agency had different opinions about which drama out of several offers he should take. Sometimes, in that series of negotiations, his choice wins (e.g. Gaksital or Good Doctor); and sometimes, his agency's choice wins (e.g. Catch Me - the film - and I seem to recall either Level 7 Civil Servant or Nae Il's Cantabile, but I'm not 100% sure). Generally speaking, the dramas that JW backs himself end up more successful. Like, it's not that his agency does a bad job choosing dramas (I have seen comments like that, but I disagree), but that the agency and JW himself seem to have different ideas about how he should progress as an actor. My own personal observation (i.e. I can be wrong) is that JW likes to challenge himself with more complex roles, while his agency - initially, at least - wanted to make him into the typical Hallyu star with a massive teenage female following gained via doing rom-coms.

You are right about "Catch me", his agency was the producer of this movie, JW was at his peaks at that time with the success of  "Good doctor". So, they probably made him do it. I don't think JW wants to be a Hallyu star, he is more like a guy who wants to improve his acting for every drama/movie he acts. You can clearly see it the way he chooses his dramas/movies. He wants be an actor whom people will remember for long time, not a star who'll be forgotten after a short period. :smile:

 

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

30% ratings are really tough now

I know, but it's not completely based on my emotional judgement, if you factor in the cast, Alice has some amazing actors like Kim Hee Seon(Also famous in China), Yeon Woo(Famous ex-K-pop), Lee Da in, Choi Won-young( From Sky castle), Kwak Si-Yang and list is goes on. It is good enough to get at least 10% rating for the first episode, then everything depends on the Plot, Direction and of course twist and turns. I am confident about the acting department will give their 100%, the only thing plot development should be good from beginning to the end, they might just pull it off(I am also keeping my hopes in check and just looking forward to watch JW's acting, the ratings are just by-products of his acting):grin:

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On 4/5/2020 at 5:00 PM, kittyna said:

in terms of Hallyu star factor, he still beats JW

I think this Hallyu star tag comes because of the looks and not due to acting or performance. I know this is very unpopular opinion, but our Joo won  kind of have avg looks(not in terms of acting, he surpasses them all in terms of acting) when we compare to other stars of  his age; like Lee mi- ho, Ji chang- wook, Lee Jong- suk and Kim Soo- Hyun(Again I think he is most adorable person of them all, but other might not think so). Anyway, when I have seen Joo won's dramas it was not his looks which draw me to him, but his performance and diverse roles which he has chosen to play. In spite of this he was able to win Chinese netizen popularity award. To be Hallyu star you need to satisfy parameter like taking  cliché  roles and not push their boundaries, Joo won would never like to limit his acting options for sake of a tag and he always mentions this in his interview that he likes to take roles which are challenging, and not comfortable roles. :)

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I know some folks still have some catching up to do re: reading posts on this forum, so I'll hold off on longer replies, fic-related updates, etc. for the time being.

 

In the meantime, though, a few new Instagram posts:

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, kittyna said:

Not to mention My Sassy Girl as well.

Yeah, it gets better every time you re-watch it,but the story should have sticked with ROM-COM, instead of political, it made the drama very boring and predictable. :anguished:

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