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Father's Day with Joo Won  

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  1. 1. Who is the most fun father (figure) of Joo Won's character? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice: Yoon Min Hyuk (Kwak Si Yang) - Father
    • Alice: Det. Go Hyeon Seok (Kim Sang Ho) - Father figure
    • Good Doctor: Dr. Choi Woo Seok (Cheon Ho Jin) - Father figure
    • Good Doctor: Park Choon Sung (Jung Ho Keun) - Father
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    • Yong Pal: Tae Hyun’s father (Choi Joon Yong) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Han Joo Man (Dok Ko Yeong Jae) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Kim Won Seok (Ahn Nae Sang) - Father figure
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    • Nae Il’s Cantabile: Cha Dong Woo (Jung Bo Suk) - Father
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    • My Sassy Girl: Gyun Pil Young (Jo Hee Bong) - Father
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    • Bridal Mask: Lee Sun (Lee Il Jae) - Father
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    • Someone else (Please mention in your comments)
  2. 2. Who is the strictest father (figure) of Joo Won's character? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice: Yoon Min Hyuk (Kwak Si Yang) - Father
    • Alice: Det. Go Hyeon Seok (Kim Sang Ho) - Father figure
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    • Good Doctor: Dr. Choi Woo Seok (Cheon Ho Jin) - Father figure
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    • Good Doctor: Park Choon Sung (Jung Ho Keun) - Father
    • Yong Pal: Tae Hyun’s father (Choi Joon Yong) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Han Joo Man (Dok Ko Yeong Jae) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Kim Won Seok (Ahn Nae Sang) - Father figure
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    • Nae Il’s Cantabile: Cha Dong Woo (Jung Bo Suk) - Father
    • My Sassy Girl: Gyun Pil Young (Jo Hee Bong) - Father
    • Bridal Mask: Lee Sun (Lee Il Jae) - Father
    • Someone else (Please mention in your comments)
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  3. 3. In which drama do you wish that Joo Won’s character should be closer to his dad? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice
    • My Sassy Girl
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    • Yong Pal
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    • Naeil’s Cantabile
    • Good Doctor
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant
    • Bridal Mask
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    • Ojakgyo Family
    • King of Baking, Kim Takgu

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31 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Oh - does Jessi tend to swear a lot?

Oh, a lot. She is known for zero filters and being casual with her guests. Unlike typical interviews where host is gracious and considerate towards their guest. I do think Joo won's followers are going to increase considerably since her show is popular among millennials

 

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13 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I do think Joo won's followers are going to increase considerably since her show is popular among millennials

 

Not to mention that he just accumulates a bunch of new fans with every project he does: I've noticed a number of comments on his pre-Alice promotions (like the compliments reading video with Kim Hee Sun) from people who were only familiar with him as Park Jin Gyeom and were completely blindsided by his aegyo in real life :bashful:

 

Anyway, I'm actually here with the Couples/Pairs round of my Disney-Drama Character challenge, so here goes!

 

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Disney-Drama Character Associations: Round Three (Pairs)

 

 

If you've seen the musical theatre version of this, you already know the drill. But just in case you need a refresher, the question is simple: which two character from JW's dramas comes to your mind when you hear each song, and why?

 

As with any of my "pairs" challenges, note that you don't have to just stick with couples. As long as they're both from the same drama, you can go with any two-person combination you want :) 

 

A few more general guidelines/tips:

  1. Don't overthink the relationships in the Disney pairs. Some are couples, some are family, some are friends, but you don't have to stick with that for the drama characters. If a couple in a Disney number makes you think of two siblings in a drama, go for it!
  2. You can repeat individual characters, but not entire pairs. For example, you can answer Park Jin Gyeom + Kim Do Yeon for one prompt, and Jin Gyeom + Yoon Tae Yi in another.

Once again, there are no right or wrong answers - in true Disney spirit, just let your imagination go wild! :partyblob:

 

1. "Bop to the Top" from High School Musical

 

Disney characters: Sharpay + Ryan 

 

Context: Sibling duo Sharpay and Ryan are two drama students who have historically played the leads in many of their high school's productions. This is the piece they perform in the second callback round of auditions for an upcoming musical, both professing their willingness to do anything it takes to beat out the competition.

 

(And, before you ask, yes, I was partially inspired by JW and IVY's recent Ghost promos to include a classic musical theatre-style number here.)

 

 

2. "Where You Are" from Moana

 

Disney characters: Chief Tui + Gramma Tala

 

Context: For generations, the people of Montonui have been content to stay on their tropical island, believing the ocean to be too dangerous. Noticing that his daughter, Moana, is inexplicably drawn to the water, Chief Tui tries to raise her to keep in line with their culture's traditions - but Gramma Tala (Tui's mother and, thus, Moana's grandmother) has different ideas.

 

 

3. "Love is an Open Door" from Frozen

 

Disney characters: Anna + Hans

 

Context: After meeting Prince Hans for the first time at her sister's coronation ball, Princess Anna finds that they seem to get along on almost everything. They playfully flirt with each other, but Anna doesn't realize that (spoilers) Hans is actually faking his feelings for her and only wants to court her due to her position as heir to the throne.

 

 

4. "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)" from Frozen (yes, I'm continuing with the Frozen theme, but it's because both of these songs were too good not to include)

 

Disney characters: Anna and Elsa (note: you can answer a different person for Anna than you did in #3)

 

Context: After Elsa flees from her own coronation when her ice powers are accidentally revealed to the people, Anna (her sister) tracks her down to the home she's built for herself in the mountains. She tries to persuade Elsa to go back with her, but that doesn't go as well as planned.

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

5. "Out There" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

 

Disney characters: Frollo + Quasimodo

 

Context: For as long as he could remember, Quasimodo has been kept hidden away from the public eye inside the Notre Dame Cathedral. His guardian, Frollo, claims that he is doing so only to protect him from abuse due to his physical deformities, but Quasimodo still wants to experience the outside world just once in his life.

 

(Lyrics if anyone wants them)

 

 

6. "Something There" from Beauty and the Beast

 

Disney characters: Belle and the Beast

 

Context: As Belle gets accustomed to living in the Beast's castle, a friendship slowly forms between them - and possibly something more as well.

 

(Lyrics if anyone wants them)

 

 

7. "A Man Has Dreams" from Mary Poppins

 

Disney characters: Mr. Banks + Bert

 

Context: Mr. Banks has always believed that by throwing himself into his job at the bank, he is doing what's right and best for his family, even if it means seldom spending any time with his young children. But when he finds himself on the verge of losing his job, he receives wisdom and advice from the most unlikely source: a chimney sweep.

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

8. "A Cover is Not the Book" from Mary Poppins Returns

 

Disney characters: Mary Poppins + Jack

 

Context: Mary and Jack are asked to perform a song-and-dance number for the animal and child guests in the Royal Doulton Music Hall. In the midst of all the silliness, they teach an important lesson about not judging people by appearances.

 

 

 

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1. Knowing Brother Joo Won is trending on number 6 in Naver Sports and entertainment section today. :partyblob:

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2. And the news focusing on Joo Won in Knowing Brother.

 

Knowing Brother' Joo-Won "I got the secret of height 2 → 185cm tall…I grew 20cm at once"

Input 2021.01.22. 7:06 pm

 

Reporter Kang Hyo-jin

 

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[Sport TV News = Reporter Kang Hyo-jin] Actor Joo-won revealed the secret to growing tall in'Knowing Brother'.

 

JTBC'Knowing Brother', which airs on the 23rd, features Juwon, Ivy, and Park Jun-myeon, who are performing masterpieces in the musical'Ghost', as transfer students.

 

In the recent recording of'Knowing Brother', the three showed excellent singing skills and said goodbye. It is said that the set of three people on the stage quickly turned into the first row of the grand theater. Then, the special history of the transfer students was revealed, which greatly surprised the older brothers.

 

On this day, the three showed off their mouths as good as their brilliant singing skills. In particular, Joo-won revealed the secret of being able to grow up to 185cm even though his parents were not tall.

 

Joo-won said, "At the time of admission to junior high school, it was number 2 in the height of both men and women. But by some action, I grew up to 20 cm at once," raising questions. As soon as Lee Su-geun listened to Joo-won, he said, “Turn on the TV! Taejun-ah!” cried out his son's name and laughed.

 

Joo-won also showed off his excitement and talent to his heart's content in the second period corner. In particular, he gained a hot response by revealing his dancing skills that were rarely seen in entertainment programs.

 

Joo-won's'Tallest Secret', which focused Lee Soo-geun's attention, can be found in JTBC's'Knowing Brother', broadcast at 9 pm on the 23rd.

 

Sports News = ganghyojin TV reporter bestest@spotvnews.co.kr

 

NewsLink: https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/477/0000282379

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8 hours ago, kittyna said:

1. "Bop to the Top" from High School Musical

Seo In-Suk  and Han Seung-Jae. I know these two are not siblings, but I think these two match the musical characters, like, these two are ambitious and will do anything to beat their competition.So, I have decided to go with these two

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

2. "Where You Are" from Moana

King Wheejong  and Princess Hyemyung, I was unable come up with a pair for this musical and had to settle with these two. It was only natural for a king you exiled his loving wife, will be extra protective about his only daughter. So, I though these two fit this musical(not an ideal one or to be honest, I wanted to come up with better pair but I couldn't)

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

3. "Love is an Open Door" from Frozen

Lee Sang Chul and Kim So Hyun. I sort of think they were flirting with each other or at least were attracted to each other in the final episodes. Again not Ideal, but it is the close couple I could get with my imagination

9 hours ago, kittyna said:

4. "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)" from Frozen (yes, I'm continuing with the Frozen theme, but it's because both of these songs were too good not to include)

 

Na In-Hae and Na In-Young, but I think in the drama the roles are reversed like, In-Hae is the one who was persuading In Young to go with treatment and surgery. And we don't get to see much of scene between sisters even if there few sisters character in Joo won's drama. (I thought of picking Yoon Tae Yin (2020) and KDY, but the I found In-Hae and In-Young best fit for this musical)

10 hours ago, kittyna said:

5. "Out There" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Lee Ho-Joon and Kim Tae Hyun. Okay first I would like explain what made me think of this pair. Just the main lead in the musical was oblivious to the outside world, kim Tae Hyun was also oblivious to the world of 12th floor and troubles he is going to go through while treating the VIP patients. I would like to think Lee Ho-Joon initially resisted Kim Tae Hyun appointment to Han Yeo Jin case because as a senior he doesn't want him to entangle in criminal cases as it is a crime to keep patient in induced coma if there is no life risk or if it not advised medically. So, not much to draw parallels except for the resistance of a guardian like figure, who is protecting someone in his care from harsh thing from outside world(in case of Yong Pal its 12th floor)

10 hours ago, kittyna said:

6. "Something There" from Beauty and the Beast

Lee Kang To and Mok Dan. Just like in musical, how belle  misunderstood beast (which is totally normal,since he is keeping her in his castle against her will and I think this Disney movie to be a case of Stockholm Syndrome) Mok Dna also misunderstands Lee Kang To due to his inhumane treatment towards his fellow Koreans, but in the end she realize who he is and finally ends up marrying him just like the ending in the Beauty and Beast.

10 hours ago, kittyna said:

7. "A Man Has Dreams" from Mary Poppins

Cha Yoo Jin and Yoo II Rak. So, just like in musical how an guy who thinks he got it all gets advice from a person who according to him is not even worthy to have a coffee with him, Cha Yoo Jin also learns few lessons from II-Rak when he was going through crisis, who he initial though has no brain or talent to be musical student

10 hours ago, kittyna said:

8. "A Cover is Not the Book" from Mary Poppins Returns

Franz Stresemann and Song Mi-Na . So, just like in musical how the main leads pointing out not judge someone by appearance, these two in the drama tried their best help the students to reach their potential in musical, who were often discarded due to their appearance(Nae-Il), anxiety(Ma Soo-Min) and not able to attend class because they have to take lot of part-time jobs since they have to fund their own education(Cho Min-Hee). So, these two have lot of empathy and understanding when it comes to judging their students. Hence, I am choosing these two characters

 

Phew!!!!! That was THE most tough challenge cum assignment I have ever done, at least for assignments I could have used the google's help, but for your challenges I have to lot of brain storming, that's why I do the challenges in the evenings, so I can take a quick nap when I am done with the challenges.

I must say, this couple challenge was really tough(I did enjoy it), like, I had compare lot of couples in order to come up with the answer and also explanation part of also tough, since the explanation should match both the characters.

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

At the time of admission to junior high school, it was number 2 in the height of both men and women. But by some action, I grew up to 20 cm at once," raising questions. As soon as Lee Su-geun listened to Joo-won, he said, “Turn on the TV! Taejun-ah!” cried out his son's name and laughed

It happened to lot of my friends, like they were shorter than me before summer and they sort of grew a lot after summer and became tallest guys in the class. So, I am sensing there would few jokes about this form Lee Soo Guen and Seo Jang Hoon, like these two are the tallest and shortest members of the cast

1 hour ago, flutterby06 said:

dancing skills that were rarely seen in entertainment programs.

I think if he concentrates on his dancing skills he could compete with the idols. Despite being 185cms tall, his body can move rhythmically along with the music. But due to time constrains he was not able to cultivate his dancing skills properly

 

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18 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

Phew!!!!! That was THE most tough challenge cum assignment I have ever done, at least for assignments I could have used the google's help, but for your challenges I have to lot of brain storming, that's why I do the challenges in the evenings, so I can take a quick nap when I am done with the challenges.

I must say, this couple challenge was really tough(I did enjoy it), like, I had compare lot of couples in order to come up with the answer and also explanation part of also tough, since the explanation should match both the characters.

 

Well, I'm also still brainstorming for my own responses, so....

 

By the way, you really did well with this challenge :) There were some answers that surprised me (not in a bad way, just in a "I never would have thought that" sort of way), and there were some that I really, really liked.

 

18 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:
10 hours ago, kittyna said:

7. "A Man Has Dreams" from Mary Poppins

Cha Yoo Jin and Yoo II Rak. So, just like in musical how an guy who thinks he got it all gets advice from a person who according to him is not even worthy to have a coffee with him, Cha Yoo Jin also learns few lessons from II-Rak when he was going through crisis, who he initial though has no brain or talent to be musical student

 

Okay, I'm biased (:P, but I think this one's my favourite :) It matches their personalities really well once we set aside all the stuff in the song about parenting - you know, since neither of them are there yet. There is reasonable argument that running an orchestra (especially ones as chaotic as the S Orchestra or Rising Star) isn't all that much different from handling a bunch of kids, though ;) 

 

18 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:
10 hours ago, kittyna said:

5. "Out There" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

Lee Ho-Joon and Kim Tae Hyun. Okay first I would like explain what made me think of this pair. Just the main lead in the musical was oblivious to the outside world, kim Tae Hyun was also oblivious to the world of 12th floor and troubles he is going to go through while treating the VIP patients. I would like to think Lee Ho-Joon initially resisted Kim Tae Hyun appointment to Han Yeo Jin case because as a senior he doesn't want him to entangle in criminal cases as it is a crime to keep patient in induced coma if there is no life risk or if it not advised medically. So, not much to draw parallels except for the resistance of a guardian like figure, who is protecting someone in his care from harsh thing from outside world(in case of Yong Pal its 12th floor)

 

I like this idea, because I definitely think that was what was happening in Yong Pal. It's not the direction I'm heading in (since there's more than a bit of manipulation and gaslighting on Frollo's part), but I can see how you got there :thumbsup:

 

18 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:
10 hours ago, kittyna said:

4. "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)" from Frozen (yes, I'm continuing with the Frozen theme, but it's because both of these songs were too good not to include)

 

Na In-Hae and Na In-Young, but I think in the drama the roles are reversed like, In-Hae is the one who was persuading In Young to go with treatment and surgery. And we don't get to see much of scene between sisters even if there few sisters character in Joo won's drama. (I thought of picking Yoon Tae Yin (2020) and KDY, but the I found In-Hae and In-Young best fit for this musical)

 

Yeah...sister pairs are few and far between in JW's dramas, so I do think this is the best fit if we stick with that particular relationship :) 

 

I am curious how you thought of Tae Yi and Do Yeon, though ;) 

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3 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I am curious how you thought of Tae Yi and Do Yeon, though

I think the fact that they both were attached towards PGY and in the scene where they bonded over drinks sure made me look at them like sisters. And also, they too were genuinely worried about each others safety, just like in frozen, and if I have to draw parallels from frozen characters Yoon Tae Yi(2020) will be "Elsa" and Kim Do Yeon will be Anna. Now that I think of, I think these two will be my back up choice since they sort of fit the description :P

 

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9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

It happened to lot of my friends, like they were shorter than me before summer and they sort of grew a lot after summer and became tallest guys in the class. So, I am sensing there would few jokes about this form Lee Soo Guen and Seo Jang Hoon, like these two are the tallest and shortest members of the cast

 

Yeah - childhood height and voice don't actually reveal a lot about what a guy's gonna look or sound like as an adult :P 

 

9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:
10 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

dancing skills that were rarely seen in entertainment programs.

I think if he concentrates on his dancing skills he could compete with the idols. Despite being 185cms tall, his body can move rhythmically along with the music. But due to time constrains he was not able to cultivate his dancing skills properly

 

Reality is, JW can hold his own as a dancer, given what I've seen from him in the past (Frees1N2D, etc.). While his height could make things awkward at times, he has the advantage of a strong innate sense of rhythm: if nothing else, he can feel the beat of a piece of music really easily and that allows him to improvise in such a way that even if the moves are "wrong", they end up feeling right.

 

And let's not forget that JW was the one tasked with teaching his cast mates their dance moves during the karaoke scene in Alice - and that it actually takes a certain skill in dancing to act out bad dancing the way he does as Park Jin Gyeom ;) 

 

9 hours ago, kireeti2 said:
20 hours ago, kittyna said:

8. "A Cover is Not the Book" from Mary Poppins Returns

Franz Stresemann and Song Mi-Na . So, just like in musical how the main leads pointing out not judge someone by appearance, these two in the drama tried their best help the students to reach their potential in musical, who were often discarded due to their appearance(Nae-Il), anxiety(Ma Soo-Min) and not able to attend class because they have to take lot of part-time jobs since they have to fund their own education(Cho Min-Hee). So, these two have lot of empathy and understanding when it comes to judging their students. Hence, I am choosing these two characters

 

Didn't get to responding to this answer earlier, but just want to say that I love it :approves:

 

And I guess that's my segue into my own responses to this challenge - which, I have to say, was also really tough. I know that might sound empty to you guys (you know, since I came up with the thing), but I really don't go into these challenges with set answers in mind. I just try to get as broad or interesting a range as possible, then hope for the best :sweat_smile:

 

1. "Bop to the Top" from High School Musical

 

Disney characters: Sharpay + Ryan 

 

For me, there's something about the lighthearted tone of this piece that automatically makes me think of Nae Il's Cantabile, and with that drama in mind, I'm going to go with two of the show's "A"s: Chae Do Kyung and Han Seung Oh (i.e. the A Orchestra's conductor). Both of them have this flair to their performance styles that I thought fit Sharpay and Ryan's general vibe (especially Do Kyung, but I have commented on Seung Oh's over-the-top conducting before ;)). However, more so than that, I just thought of what it'd be like to be A students in Haneum: the S's might think they have their success handed to them because of wealth or connections (and they do definitely take their status for granted and become arrogant as a result), but in reality, these students work their butts off to get where they are. As Cha Yoo Jin says to Yoo Il Rak, he "threw up blood" (i.e. threw himself completely into) practicing as a kid.

 

So...why Do Kyung rather than, say, Jung Si Won? Because Si Won's too much of a team player to fit the Disney characters here :P Sharpay, like Do Kyung, is quite self-centred and has no qualms against stepping on others in order to advance: it's mentioned at one point in the film that if she could find a way to play both the male and female lead, she'd push even her own brother down, so....

 

2. "Where You Are" from Moana

 

Disney characters: Chief Tui + Gramma Tala

 

Like @kireeti2, I can really just think of the King and Dowager Queen from My Sassy Girl. I think it's worth noting that both of them love Hye Myung dearly, but they hold very different opinions on her tendency not to play by the rules: the King wants her to conform for her own safety, while the Dowager Queen encourages her to wait and bide her time for the right opportunity to shine.

 

3. "Love is an Open Door" from Frozen

 

Disney characters: Anna + Hans

 

This prompt...oof. This one's tough, because most of the JW drama relationships that I can think of with this specific dynamic in regards to social status either have the girl actively trying to seduce the guy (e.g. Lee Chae Young + Kim Tae Hyun in Yong Pal), the girl being in on the flattery and thus not actually in love (e.g. Chae Do Kyung + just about every guy who's fallen for her ever :P), or have the guy as the good one in the relationship (e.g. Chae Young + Tae Hyun, again).

 

I can, however, think of several examples that are equally imperfect matches, but that each touch on some elements of this particular dynamic. So, I'll just show them all and you guys can tell me which you like most:

  • Chae Hong Joo (Ueno Rie) + Lee Kang To from Gaksital - This doesn't fully work because she's definitely aware he doesn't really love her, but at least I think her feelings for him are genuine.
  • Seo In Sook + Han Seung Jae from King of Baking, Kim Tak Gu - Again, no way in hell does she actually like him (if anything, it's the other way around), but there's no denying that his part in their extramarital affair stemmed from his own ambition
  • Oh Si Young + Gil Cheol Am from Alice - Not a romantic relationship in any sense, but what jumped out to me here is that Cheol Am is the drama character who I think comes closest to Hans in terms of the specific kind of shadiness he has: he comes off as a good friend to Si Young, but he's actually faking sympathy in order to use her feelings of resentment over "doors in [her] face" (i.e. Min Hyuk's repeated rejections) for his own nefarious ends

 

([EDIT] Okay, after writing them all out like this, I think my own personal favourite is Si Young + Cheol Am. So, take that as my "official" response if you want. I am, however, still curious what you think of the others.)

 

4. "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)" from Frozen 

 

Disney characters: Anna and Elsa 

 

Okay, it might be a cheap shot to choose two alter egos here, but I honestly thought first of both versions of Yoon Tae Yi from Alice (in order: 2020 and 2050) here - especially in terms of their conflicting interests re: the Book of Prophecy and stopping time travel. So, on the one hand, we have 2050-Tae Yi, who's convinced she's cursed and who subsequently pushes 2020-Tae Yi away on numerous occasions in order to protect her: first by putting her up for adoption as a child (after seeing the final page), and then by begging her to stay away from Jin Gyeom (after his success in time travel leaves him vulnerable to turning dark). But on the other hand, that just makes 2020-Tae Yi even more determined to pursue the end of time travel, despite knowing that it would put her in danger.

 

5. "Out There" from The Hunchback of Notre Dame

 

Disney characters: Frollo + Quasimodo

 

Full disclosure: Frollo in the Disney movie is an emotionally abusive, narcissistic piece of you-know-what. But that's not what I think about my choice here: Kim Do Han and Park Si On from Good Doctor. Instead, I do see Do Han has having good intentions when he tries to dissuade Si On from joining his team or becoming a surgeon: he's seen how society treats those with disabilities like his brother, and he also blames himself for encouraging his brother to go out into the world and expand his horizons (which ultimately leads to the boy's death). So I do think that Do Han is doing what he thinks is best for Si On by holding him back at first - but, well, Si On's never gonna let anyone stop him from striving toward his goals, is he? ;) 

 

6. "Something There" from Beauty and the Beast

 

Disney characters: Belle and the Beast

 

lol - First things first: the characters one picks for this prompt are probably a stronger reflection of one's interpretation of Beauty and the Beast than any JW drama :P So while - as @kireeti2 pointed out - there is reasonable argument for Belle having some version of Stockholm Syndrome, I actually saw the story differently. Instead, when I watched the film growing up, I saw Belle as someone who had a strong personality and ethical code who only befriended the Beast after he started to change from a violently temperamental monster into someone kinder. And the end result of that is that she becomes pretty much the only person in town who sees that side of him.

 

All this is to say that my choice is Kim Do Yeon and Park Jin Gyeom from Alice. No, Do Yeon's not the only person to see Jin Gyeom's good side (and Jin Gyeom's definitely a better person than the Beast started off as), but she's the one who has a noticeable change of heart when they were in high school, and who's been guiding him on this whole series of baby steps as he learns to care more for others. And once that's said and done...well, if you mess with him, you mess with her as well ;) 

 

7. "A Man Has Dreams" from Mary Poppins

 

Disney characters: Mr. Banks + Bert

 

Here, I'm actually going to go with Kang Hyun Tae (i.e. the hospital's Assistant Director) and Park Si On from Good Doctor. The way I see it, Assistant Director Kang was never a bad person: his attempts to privatize the hospital stemmed from his belief that corporate investment would allow the hospital to pay for better treatments for his son. However, like Mr. Banks, Assistant Director Kang's narrow focus on his son's physical needs leaves him unable to see the bigger picture for both his son and the hospital. And it takes the pediatrics team (among whom I'm choosing Park Si On for having the best fit with Bert in terms of personality) to help him see that.

 

8. "A Cover is Not the Book" from Mary Poppins Returns

 

Disney characters: Mary Poppins + Jack

 

Although the whole "theatre show for kids" concept would fit better with Good Doctor, I'm gonna change things up a bit and try to find a match from another drama. Given that, for this prompt, I'm gonna choose the ICU nurse (who is, rather annoyingly for such a significant character, unnamed) and Kim Do Young (i.e. Tae Hyun's friend among the residents) from Yong Pal. Why these two? For me, it's that they both experience this lesson firsthand in their interactions with Kim Tae Hyun: we don't see what happened with Do Young (just that he's the only one among the residents who doesn't just dismiss Tae Hyun as a rude "money bug"), but we do see how the ICU nurse initially brushes him off until she comes to realize the true intentions behind his actions. As for why I'm going with her rather than Nurse Kang? Again, it's more a matter of personality and general vibe: I found the ICU nurse to have a bit more of the sass we get from Mary Poppins here ;) 

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2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Kim Do Yeon and Park Jin Gyeom from Alice

I like this one, like, everything from the musical matches with this pair(Kim Do yeon's strong personality and PGY's unseen kind nature), except the locking up of female lead against her will

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Kim Do Han and Park Si On from Good Doctor.

And I like this one also. It does fit the description of the musical.:approves:

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

Kang Hyun Tae (i.e. the hospital's Assistant Director) and Park Si On from Good Doctor.

I would say this one's is my favorite, since Park Si-On is the last guy he expects getting advice from :approves:

 

2 hours ago, kittyna said:

when I watched the film growing up, I saw Belle as someone who had a strong personality and ethical code who only befriended the Beast after he started to change from a violently temperamental monster into someone kinder

Well that's how Stockholm Syndrome works. Victim bonds with her/his captors over a period of time, regardless of what the victim sees in the captor, it wouldn't had happened if he/she was not held  against their will.

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2 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I like this one, like, everything from the musical matches with this pair(Kim Do yeon's strong personality and PGY's unseen kind nature), except the locking up of female lead against her will

 

I'm glad you liked that one - it's one of my personal favourites out of my responses.

 

By the way, speaking of Do Yeon and Jin Gyeom, I think now is a good time to say that I am currently working on a fic about these two, particularly their high school days. I am still also working on the Seolleim in Salzburg finale, but this fic is based on an idea I had really early into watching Alice, and...well, the muse has finally decided to strike such that I can actually make it happen. ;) 

 

A lot of it is going to be stuff from my own imagination, but just as a little taste of what's gonna happen, here's a preview scene I'm sure we all already know:

 

Spoiler

The sound of hundreds of chattering voices echoes around me in the usual lunchtime roar, but I just focus on the pounding of my own feet as I stomp up the stairs.

 

“Stupid, stupid idiot,” I mutter to myself, each word punctuated with yet another stomp. “Way to go, Kim Do Yeon: your first shot at getting to the truth of something, and you just had to completely screw it up.”

 

A couple of junior girls scramble out of my way; they point at me and whisper among themselves as I pass, but I don’t care. Nothing they say can possibly beat what I heard from Eomma down by the school entrance just now.

 

That girl from your class – Sung Eun? Everyone in the market’s talking: it turns out she was a suicide after all. The boy that you said was up there with her – that one you reported to the police? Well, his mother searched all day and night for a witness and she finally found one…

 

He was trying to save her. I don’t know what the hell Park Jin Gyeom was doing up there yesterday, but when Sung Eun went up there as well....

 

You and your jumping to conclusions…didn’t I tell you that was going to cause trouble for you someday? You’d better apologize, young lady – an innocent kid’s life was almost ruined because of you!

 

It’s not my fault I got him wrong, though. Not entirely, anyway. Jin Gyeom is easily the biggest, tallest guy in the entire drama club, with slanted eyes that would be fox-like if they didn’t look completely dead inside. He never says anything in our meetings, either; he just sits there with arms crossed in the back of the room, silently judging us with those creepily empty eyes.

 

No wonder our club president just assigns him to play the antagonist over and over again – and no wonder he just takes it. Still, there’s a difference between looking like a villain and actually being one. You'd think I'd know that by now.

 

As I reach the floor where all the senior classes are, I raise one hand to my shoulder with a wince. It still stings from when Eomma smacked me there earlier, but I don’t want to think about that now. Instead, tossing my head and forcing a smile on my face, I march over to Jin Gyeom’s class, my hands clasped behind my back.

 

There are only a handful of guys here, most of the class probably still eating downstairs or playing soccer out on the field. But all that matters is that Jin Gyeom’s still here: hunched over his desk by the window, one of the few students who actually studies during break.

 

Several of the boys look up at me in curiosity as I saunter over towards him – girls never go into guys’ classrooms or vice-versa – but I don’t care what they think. As for Jin Gyeom, he doesn’t even notice I’m there until I speak up. “I was the one who reported you to the police, you know.”

 

He glances up at me, then back down at his work. “So?”

 

“So I’m here to apologize for suspecting you earlier.” I answer bluntly. “Mianhae.”

 

“Gwenchana,” he murmurs. “I understand how you’d think that.”

 

That’s weird. Sung Eun is dead and Jin Gyeom was nearly accused – by me – of killing her. But right now, he’s reacting like I just told him what I’d eaten for lunch. Somehow, for some bizarre reason, none of this fazes him as much as it should – which must mean that he knows something.

 

And right now, I want in.

 

Quickly, before I can change my mind, I pull over a chair and sit down. “By the way, why did Sung Eun kill herself?”

 

Jin Gyeom goes still. “Why are you asking me?”

 

“Because apparently,” I continue, “you were talking to her before she jumped.”

 

He looks back down and turns a page in his workbook. “She didn’t say anything.”

 

I stare at him for a few more seconds, hoping that he would eventually decide to talk, but he just goes right back to his homework: calculus, it looks like.

 

Well, if that’s how he’s gonna be, then there’s no point in waiting. I get up to leave the classroom, but I’ve only made it to the threshold before I feel him staring at me from across the room.

 

Park Jin Gyeom definitely knows something.

 

Even after I get back to my own classroom and my own desk, I keep an eye on the windows to the hallway outside. Sure enough, not two minutes after I sat down, Jin Gyeom walks past, his cold eyes pointed straight ahead.

 

I rush out just in time to see him reach the washroom at the end of the hall: the one that everyone knows to avoid during lunch unless they want to risk getting beat up by Han Seung Chul and his gang. One of the freshmen guarding the entrance tries to stop Jin Gyeom, but he just casually pushes him away and steps inside, reaching up to lock the door behind him.

 

I’m not the only one who notices that something weird is going on. Some of my classmates have also come out from the room, and a lot of the boys from Jin Gyeom’s class as well. We are all huddled together in the hall, curious but also a bit scared, when suddenly, we hear loud bangs and someone yelling from inside.

 

“Omo!” the girl beside me gasps, her hand flying up to her mouth. Most of the boys crowd closer to the door, trying to see what they could make out through the frosted glass, but I join the other girls in backing away as far as I can while still being able to hear their hushed voices from the front:

 

“Is he really trying to fight them?”

 

“He’s outnumbered – I see three of them in there!”

 

“Is he crazy?”

 

“‘Course he is! He’s the psycho, remember?”

 

“Geu rae, but–”

 

Jin Gyeom’s silhouette suddenly appears out of nowhere in the glass, reaching up to unlock the door. Immediately, everyone shuts up and we all scurry out of the way when he finally comes outside.

 

He’s fine. Perfectly fine. There’s not a single scratch or bruise on him, and the only sign that Seung Chul managed to land a hit at all is the tiny bit of blood from a cut lip that I can just barely make out when he walks right up to me.

 

There’s this long awkward silence as everyone gapes at us, but before I can say anything, Jin Gyeom hands me Seung Chul’s phone. “Take this to the police. You’ll find the reason for Sung Eun’s suicide there.”

 

So, it is still a bit rough - the narrative voice isn't as teenage as I'd like just yet - but it's a start. So stay tuned for more!

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40 minutes ago, kittyna said:

So, it is still a bit rough - the narrative voice isn't as teenage as I'd like just yet - but it's a start. So stay tuned for more!

Wow!! It is really good read. I can totally imagine that it would have been the after math of scene when PGY was proven innocent by his mom. And also, I like how you explored his life in drama club, like, it is possible that he might end up doing villain roles since it is the least wanted role for the members and PGY would have taken it without complaining. I can't wait to read the complete story. :blush:

 

44 minutes ago, kittyna said:

girls never go into guys’ classrooms

Wait I thought it is coed school. Does boys have different class room during break period ?

45 minutes ago, kittyna said:

but I don’t care what they think

Well, that's our Kim Do Yeon, fearless and doesn't give a f*** about anyone

 

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Wait I thought it is coed school. Does boys have different class room during break period ?

 

Even in co-ed high schools, it's still common in Korea for boys and girls to be split into different classes. And, from what I could make out from the high school scenes in Alice, that appears to be the case for Do Yeon and Jin Gyeom's school: it's most visible in Episode 13, when Evil!Jin Gyeom sneaks out in the middle of the class, but there are other clues as well.

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

And also, I like how you explored his life in drama club, like, it is possible that he might end up doing villain roles since it is the least wanted role for the members and PGY would have taken it without complaining. I can't wait to read the complete story.

 

And, while it wasn't intentional, there is a slight parallel with JW's own high school experiences - he said once that while others fought to play the lead, he'd go for the really random miscellaneous characters (I remember something about a "perverted ahjussi" once, but I could be mistaken there).

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Wow!! It is really good read. I can totally imagine that it would have been the after math of scene when PGY was proven innocent by his mom.

 

Well, the moments involving Jin Gyeom are straight from the drama itself - the only parts from me here are the bully's name (because he doesn't have one in the drama) and the fallout for Do Yeon, because I don't think her parents would have let her get away with throwing him under the bus :P 

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My internet is being so slow these days.. Sorry can't join in the conversation.. I will reply all the quotes after it gets a bit stable.

 

In the meantime.. Knowing brother is airing right now.. and out Joo Won is trending! :partyblob:

 

First at 5 

 

 

NOW at 3-

 

 

And he's eating lemon deliciously and it's surprising Knowing bros like it did to 2D1N bros..:lol:

 

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3 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

And he's eating lemon deliciously and it's surprising Knowing bros like it did to 2D1N bros..:lol:

 

lol - It's funny, because I remember Lee Su Geun was one of only two 1N2D hyungs (the other being Uhm Tae Woong) to see JW doing that firsthand back then. I know that for JW himself, eating lemons like that is just perfectly normal, but it also seems to be a good party trick, given everyone else's reactions.

 

And I just gotta say: Park Jun Myeon's reaction was so cute and funny as well :lol:

 

I haven't gotten through all the YouTube clips so far, but I think my favourite so far is this one. It looks like it'd be such a simple move, but apparently, it's actually really hard to do it smoothly, accurately and with the right timing (several of the knowing bros get it when they do it slowly, but not quickly).

 

I'm not surprised that JW and IVY nailed it, though ;) And JW did at least twice (once in the practice break and once for real) and without looking. Also, his little shimmy at the beginning was really cute :) 

 

 

And, maybe it's just because I am Canadian, but that little snippet at the end where they were joking that the MC's "I'm not a comedian!" came out like, "I'm [not] Canadian!" was hilarious - I was literally thinking that's what it sounded like right before they pointed it out. :lol:

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12 hours ago, kittyna said:

"I'm not a comedian!" came out like, "I'm [not] Canadian!"

I think he did say "Canadian":lol:. Actually, it is Kim Youngchul's signature dialogue, he always says this sentence "I am a comedian not Canadian" if he has to do a joke in English. I think they choose the word "Canadian" because it rhymes with "Comedian", not that they disrespect the people from the Canada or its citizens :sweat_smile:

In the next episode of KBs, we get to see Choi Kang-hee and Kim Young-kwang with whom joo won worked previously. Apparently these two are doing Hello Me! KBS drama together. So, I guess JTBC has no problem promoting other channel dramas in their variety shows.

Also, ratings for the Joo won's episode was 4.06%, which is seen as  decent rating when it comes to this show.

12 hours ago, kittyna said:

Park Jun Myeon's reaction was so cute and funny as well

She is actually the star of this episode, like, she is witty, as lot of funny stories to tell and on top of that her small hands make her look cute. So, overall the episode was decent and we can get to see funny side of Joo won and he  seem to be opening up a lot when doing variety shows, earlier, which is in his 20's he use stay quiet in variety shows and always use to respond with one liners to the questions which were thrown at him, now he seem to have improved a lot. Which is really big change since it is hard for introverts(I think Joo won is one) to open up or do stuff spontaneously.

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23 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

And he's eating lemon deliciously and it's surprising Knowing bros like it did to 2D1N bros.

I thought they would bring this up, but did not expect that they will actually make him eat whole lemon.

I also, he revealed his secret of his sudden increase of height, which is infant formula, it aided him in his  drastic increase of his height. Overall, they have visited few incidence from 2D1N where Joo won instantly dropped his honorifics with other cast members, when Lee Su Geun tried to explain this to Joo won but later found out that he is too innocent to understand and found his behavior cute.

And IVY'S dance was top notch, I knew she is good at singing but I never knew she is good at dancing and also she was good at drawing also

Park Jun Myeon's stories and her witty jokes kept the show alive, IVY's dance performance kept the show interesting and Joo won's dance made the show fun to watch. Also, joo won won the quiz round and got the pork meat as prize, so, the episode was enjoyable and fun to watch. I had my skepticism regarding joo won, since he is not known for spontaneous answers and he thinks a lot before answering and KBs show demands spontaneity, but he did well in almost all the segments and he also got right answer about IVY's question also(its like a round where they ask the class members to answer the reason behind an incident). I think it is safe to say that he has improved a lot and is more open to joke around in variety shows. :approves:

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It seems like this is the big thing that the media articles are focusing on: JW's attempt to grow taller in middle school.

 

To be honest, I'm buying his adult interpretation of events (i.e. that he started to eat baby formula at the same time that he started his growth spurt anyway) more than any claim that baby formula triggers a growth spurt :P And I do think that the difference between him and his parents' heights probably has more to do with South Korea's economic boom and better nutrition for kids overall than any activity that's touted to make people taller (eating formula, swimming, etc.)

 

Behind-the-scenes pics from his agency

 

lol - I think this one's my favourite from the set :D I don't know why, but I like seeing pictures from the hair and makeup process a lot. Plus, something in his expression here reminds me of that hair-drying scene in Alice.

 

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8 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I think he did say "Canadian":lol:. Actually, it is Kim Youngchul's signature dialogue, he always says this sentence "I am a comedian not Canadian" if he has to do a joke in English. I think they choose the word "Canadian" because it rhymes with "Comedian", not that they disrespect the people from the Canada or its citizens

 

Don't worry - I didn't think it was a dig at Canadians. I was actually happy to see Canada being mentioned at all, since it's never something I expect and (mostly) happens in a positive context :glasses:

 

8 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

In the next episode of KBs, we get to see Choi Kang-hee and Kim Young-kwang with whom joo won worked previously. Apparently these two are doing Hello Me! KBS drama together. So, I guess JTBC has no problem promoting other channel dramas in their variety shows.

 

Yeah, I noticed that they were the guests for the next episode. Although I know that Knowing Bros probably wouldn't invite guests from multiple productions (since the activities are designed to promote one show/film/stage production at a time), it did make me wonder if JW still kept in touch with either of them.

 

8 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

So, overall the episode was decent and we can get to see funny side of Joo won and he  seem to be opening up a lot when doing variety shows, earlier, which is in his 20's he use stay quiet in variety shows and always use to respond with one liners to the questions which were thrown at him, now he seem to have improved a lot. Which is really big change since it is hard for introverts(I think Joo won is one) to open up or do stuff spontaneously.

 

If we look at his growth overall, I think that he was dropped headfirst in the deep end (yes, combining two idioms is intended) with 1N2D. In that show, he's expected to be engaged and funny and clever and naughty (all traits expected of the maknae) and do that over and over again - it was all really just a bit overwhelming for him and his personality. As you pointed out, he is a self-proclaimed introvert and he seems to have grown up in a family that wasn't necessarily strict but was definitely traditional in its ideas on what the maknae should be like. So JW's own interpretation of what he should be like as the show's maknae contradicted with the audience's interpretation; and while he did stick to his guns for the most part, there are definitely moments on 1N2D when you can sense how much that feeling that he wasn't accepted for who he was by viewers really stressed him out.

 

Since then, though, I think JW has been gradually honing his variety show skills by taking on several major talk shows (Win WinTaxiHealing CampRadio Star, etc.) over the years. In these cases, even if the MCs thought he was boring or not funny (Kim Gu Ra on Taxi, the third host on Win Win, etc.), he's able to sense that the audience enjoyed his stories, once he was allowed to just tell them verbally. This has helped him gain confidence in the knowledge that audiences just like him as himself rather than any sort of affected image such that now, I think he's finally able to spend less energy constantly evaluating everything he says and does, and just relax and let loose :glasses:

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