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57 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Hm...I wonder if it has anything to do with the story from Win Win, where Kim Seung Woo revealed that Lee Su Geun tried (and failed) to scold JW off-camera for constantly using banmal (i.e. informal speech) with the hyungs. Of course, this could also be about an incident that's never been made public before, but from what I do know and remember of what is already known to fans, that's the only time when I could see Lee Su Geun doing something with JW that could lead to him being teased in turn for being "old fashioned" or "old school" by his castmates - since his own style of comedy is usually so irreverent, it does feel weird that he was the one trying to correct JW back then :P 

 

And that's especially noteworthy considering that, in 1N2D itself, Lee Su Geun was the one out of all the hyungs who most actively encouraged JW to bring out his mischievous side. ;) 

 

It came to my mind naturally too.. because that's the incident we all know.

Anyways we all know whatever he's sharing it's good natured joke between Hyung and Doongseng because we know how encouraging and indulging 2D1N Hyungs were with JW specially Lee Su Guen. He literally played the dad role in JW's house, isn't he? :lol:

 

Also I laughed all the Banmal stories shared by JW's Hyungs- Lee Su Guen, Uhm Tae Woong, Park Ki Woong, Jeon Mansik, Joo Sang Wook, Yu Hae Jin.. They all complain it in a endearing way. Like they acknowledge they found it unsettling first but they accepted it as his endearment to them. Joo Sang Wook and Yu Hae Jin mostly expressed they found it cute tho.. What I understand form all their stories is that even they found using banmal/informal tone (skinship also) unacceptable at first, but more they get to know JW the more they found out that he's is good kid that they can't help but love. So they they can good naturedly joke about him using banmal with them and allowing him to so as time passed by.. Because the maknae is just too cute.

 

57 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I didn't get that joke, but it looks like Lee Su Geun also tries to revive the long-running inside joke he had with JW: i.e. making and/or wearing masks at random moments just to surprise him. I remember Lee Su Geun doing that to JW at least once on 1N2D, and he did it on Win Win as well.

 

It's just old reference of JW being Gaksital and more because Lee Su Guen just had to make fun about those two.. I watched few episodes of KB because of some other guest I found interesting. The members there openly joke about those two being divorced.

 

57 minutes ago, kittyna said:

That's my best guess, too - in addition with the possibility that there were COVID-19 restrictions we didn't know about. Like, it's honestly crossed my mind that artists may have only been allowed to work on or promote one project at a time in order to prevent cross-contamination by moving between sets or casts/ensembles. I don't know if there was such a restriction, but if so, then since JW was already working on Ghost, he would have been ruled out for Alice-related activities for the most part.

 

I don't think that's the case- I mean Seensee restricting JW from promoting for Alice while doing GHOST for covid reasons- because everywhere in k-entertainment world I have seen some similar solidarity regarding the covid situation. Also Korea seems to be quite strict on restriction and policies regarding covid in it's own way- They adjust their policy with situation so that no works are hampered unless they're posing high risk..The restriction is Asia over all isn't as strict as Europe and America. And so far Korean broadcasting channels are really cautious on safety measure. If there are gathering and in-out of all kind of Celebrities anywhere, it'd be TV stations so they must've to maintain proper measures so celebrities can't complain.. So complaining on such matter wouldn't look professional on Seensee. Television industry people are a part of musical audience  and stakeholder too.  They won't be inflexible because they knows as lead actor JW has duty to both. I also don't think JW would be happily willing to do more work for a company if they show this much inflexibility or his agency would like it if their actor is being restricted from general activities.

 

What I think is- this happened naturally due to time gap. JW's GHOST performance started right after the first week of Alice broadcast. This means he's almost always busy with either performance or rehearsal. And considering it's the first phase of performance reversal must've took most of his time. And also he was really eager to join GHOST again so he just wanted to focus as much as he could.

 

Also it wasn't as if other cast of Alice went to promoting Alice actively somewhere together and JW was missing.. If such was the case we could assume things. But the case wasn't even that.. When he went radio star he promoted Alice. At first phase of Alice most of his interview included Alice and shifted to GHOSt.  It's most probably either Alice promotional strategy wasn't that strong or just the cast weren't free on same day to promote together.

 

Wonnie being cute as a otter...

 

 

 

And fans are excited about JW dancing to popular 'Any Song'.. :doggie:

 

 

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56 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

I don't think that's the case- I mean Seensee restricting JW from promoting for Alice while doing GHOST for covid reasons- because everywhere in k-entertainment world I have seen some similar solidarity regarding the covid situation. Also Korea seems to be quite strict on restriction and policies regarding covid in it's own way- They adjust their policy with situation so that no works are hampered unless they're posing high risk..The restriction is Asia over all isn't as strict as Europe and America. And so far Korean broadcasting channels are really cautious on safety measure. If there are gathering and in-out of all kind of Celebrities anywhere, it'd be TV stations so they must've to maintain proper measures so celebrities can't complain.. So complaining on such matter wouldn't look professional on Seensee. Television industry people are a part of musical audience  and stakeholder too.  They won't be inflexible because they knows as lead actor JW has duty to both. I also don't think JW would be happily willing to do more work for a company if they show this much inflexibility or his agency would like it if their actor is being restricted from general activities.

 

No, I don't think Seensee would try something like that. But I think it's possible that JW himself (or his agency) might have decided to focus on promoting Ghost because trying to go back and forth between Ghost rehearsals/performances and promotional activities for Alice would have been really complicated with COVID still floating around. Even if there weren't actual rules like that in place, it would be the safer and more ethical choice once Ghost rehearsals started.

 

So my comment wasn't meant as a complaint, nor do I think anyone's complaining.

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Okay, some of you guys are probably aware that JW had a voice-acting gig in 2012 as the main lead in the Korean dub of Niko 2: Little Brother, Big Trouble. I never really got a chance to see more of it save for a trailer, but someone finally uploaded a clip on Instagram and oh my God! :loolz:It sounds like an early prototype of his "Park Si On" voice :fullofhearts:

 

 

2 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Also I laughed all the Banmal stories shared by JW's Hyungs- Lee Su Guen, Uhm Tae Woong, Park Ki Woong, Jeon Mansik, Joo Sang Wook, Yu Hae Jin.. They all complain it in a endearing way. Like they acknowledge they found it unsettling first but they accepted it as his endearment to them. Joo Sang Wook and Yu Hae Jin mostly expressed they found it cute tho.. What I understand form all their stories is that even they found using banmal/informal tone (skinship also) unacceptable at first, but more they get to know JW the more they found out that he's is good kid that they can't help but love. So they they can good naturedly joke about him using banmal with them and allowing him to so as time passed by.. Because the maknae is just too cute.

 

Yeah, I've noticed that pattern, too: his sunbaes are put off by it at first, but then they realize that JW only speaks in banmal with people he likes (contrast that with what UEE said about him switching to a more formal tone whenever he had to scold his hoobaes in university). Maybe it's a hint at his "love language" in real life?

 

2 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Anyways we all know whatever he's sharing it's good natured joke between Hyung and Doongseng because we know how encouraging and indulging 2D1N Hyungs were with JW specially Lee Su Guen. He literally played the dad role in JW's house, isn't he? 

 

"The dad role in JW's house"...I feel like I should recognize the reference, but it's not coming to me. Help, please :Megathanks:

 

But, yes, Lee Su Geun was really nice to JW on 1N2D. I didn't notice it when I actually watched the show, since Su Geun's style of humour wasn't really what I considered funny, so I didn't really pay attention to his parts. But in hindsight, he did do a lot towards getting JW to open up more, and it's telling that JW became more comfortable with teasing/pranking him than with the other hyungs. Like that time he smacked Lee Su Geun in order to get him to laugh - JW wouldn't have thought to do that with any other hyung, but he knew it would work here :P 

 

2 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

Also it wasn't as if other cast of Alice went to promoting Alice actively somewhere together and JW was missing.. If such was the case we could assume things. But the case wasn't even that.. When he went radio star he promoted Alice. At first phase of Alice most of his interview included Alice and shifted to GHOSt.  It's most probably either Alice promotional strategy wasn't that strong or just the cast weren't free on same day to promote together.

 

Both Kim Hee Sun and Kwak Si Yang had separate variety show appearances to promote Alice, but most of the promotions seem to have been done online, on the actors' respective social media accounts. I loved their weekly "Alice Day" posts, actually - like, I don't know if the four main actors planned it together, or if it just happened spontaneously and became a thing, but it was really cute to get those four Instagram posts every week :) 

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4 hours ago, kittyna said:

The dad role in JW's house"...I feel like I should recognize the reference,

It's in the episode where the whole team has visited Joo won's home and Lee Su Geun played or at least pretended like Joo won's dad for a brief moment

 

4 hours ago, kittyna said:

omeone finally uploaded a clip on Instagram and oh my God! :loolz:It sounds like an early prototype of his "Park Si On" voice 

Lol, no wonder they choose him for Park Si-On character

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13 hours ago, kittyna said:

I think I'm going to go with Jang Dong Shik (i.e. 2020-Yoon Tae Yi's biological father) from Alice here.

Wow!:partyblob: You really hit it out of the park for this musical. I think Jang Dong Shik character fits well for this musical. Just like coco movie, Jang Dong Shik does have some connection with his daughter through the time travel equation.

 

13 hours ago, kittyna said:

. And that's leading me in a very intriguing direction right now: the Teacher from Alice.

I like this one as well. Evil Park Jin Gyeom a.k.a Teacher does fit the with this musical

 

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16 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

It's in the episode where the whole team has visited Joo won's home and Lee Su Geun played or at least pretended like Joo won's dad for a brief moment

 

Oh, okay - I remember now. Thanks! :approves:

 

Yeah, that moment was really cute, and showed how much JW had learned to let down his guard around the hyungs by that point :) 

 

16 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Lol, no wonder they choose him for Park Si-On character

 

Maybe - I've also heard that Good Doctor was JW's own choice, so.... ;) 

 

And I'm glad you liked my responses to the challenge, @kireeti2. I'm still finalizing my picks for the girls' round, but I'll be sure to post those when I can :) 

 

By the way, you guys - is it just me, or have JW's stylists really been upgrading his fashion game recently? He doesn't really show up wearing really high-end designers often, but both Versace and Fendi in such close proximity? Dang...like, I know they're probably rented or sponsored items (as is usually the case for celebrities' public appearances), but still - dang....

 

(And, yes, that dance JW does on Knowing Bros never gets old ;))

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And here I am with the girls' round of this Disney-Drama Character challenge!

 

Again, as with the guys, this one was tough to put together, albeit for different reasons. Where there weren't all that many songs/characters to choose for the guys to begin with, there are a ton of options for the girls - but once again, I found a number of repetitive tropes and character types. And since this time, many of the more recent Disney films have (like many of JW's dramas) featured strong, tough and determined female leads, I'm with @kireeti2 in saying that there are sometimes too many possible matches for any good one to float up to the surface :P 

 

So this time, I'm looking a little farther afield in hopes that we could also feature some supporting JW drama girls as well. I hope you guys enjoy!

 

Spoiler

Disney-Drama Character Associations: Round One (Girls)

 

 

If you've seen the musical theatre version of this, you already know the drill. But just in case you need a refresher, the question is simple: which female character from JW's dramas comes to your mind when you hear each song, and why?

 

Again: answers can be ANY female character (lead, supporting, random extras you could describe but can't name, etc.) from ANY of JW's dramas. The only rule here is that you can't name the same drama character twice ;) 

 

No right or wrong answers - in true Disney spirit, just let your imagination go wild! :partyblob:

 

 

1. "Almost There" from The Princess and the Frog

 

Disney character: Tiana

 

Context: While her mother wishes she could have a more carefree life socializing like other girls her age, Tiana is determined to continue working multiple part-time jobs in order to save enough money to one day fulfill her childhood dream of opening her own restaurant. And now that she's finally got enough to place a bid on the building she wants, that goal is within her grasp at last.

 

 

2. "My Lullaby" from The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride

 

Disney character: Zira

 

Context: As the matriarch of an exiled branch of the royal family, Zira decides to train up her young son, Kovu, to one day be able to claim the throne and restore their family line.

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

3. "Very Good Advice" from Alice in Wonderland (because, yes, after finishing Alice, I want to add a nod to this somewhere)

 

Disney character: Alice

 

Context: All her life, Alice has had little use for practical things, preferring to dwell in fantasies and daydreams. She got her chance to actually live out those dreams in Wonderland, but now, having found herself hopelessly lost in the woods, she realizes that imagination's not all that it's cracked up to be.

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

4. "Touch the Sky" from Brave (this was recommended to me by @kireeti2 a long time ago, and I'm finally getting around to including it)

 

Disney character: Merida

 

Context: Much to her mother's chagrin, Merida spends her morning doing the the things she loves best: horseback riding, archery practice, and exploring the forests and mountains around her family's castle.

 

 

5. "Strong" from Cinderella

 

Disney character: Cinderella (not her singing, but the song is about her)

 

Context: Despite growing up with an abusive stepmother and stepsisters, Cinderella is able to overcome her obstacles by retaining the kindness and spirit she learned from her birth mother. 

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

6. "Reflection" from Mulan

 

Disney character: Mulan

 

Context: Despite knowing that her family loves and cares for her unconditionally (especially her father), Mulan still worries that her inability to meet cultural expectations of femininity is letting them down. Yet, she also can't force herself to be something she's not.

 

 

7. "Baby Mine" from Dumbo

 

Disney character: Mrs. Jumbo (not her singing, but it's her point of view)

 

Context: After she fought back against people who were harassing her son (the titular Dumbo), Mrs. Jumbo was forcibly separated from him by the circus staff. But now, through the help of Dumbo's friend, mother and son get a chance to see each other in secret.

 

(Lyrics if you need them)

 

 

8. "Show Yourself" from Frozen 2

 

Disney character: Elsa

 

Context: After a long journey, Elsa reaches the source of the voice she has been hearing, believing that it could tell her why she was born with magical powers. There, she discovers that the answer lies in her mother's past.

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, kittyna said:

1. "Almost There" from The Princess and the Frog

Kim Seo Won, not exactly the same situation though. But, these two character do have some kind of ambition to be financially independent and doesn't want to depend on anyone, like, they strong independent nature makes these two characters similar

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

2. "My Lullaby" from The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride

Seo In Suk, not an ideally pick. But, she does come close to this musical character, where she wants her son to be brutal and successful at the same time and claim what she thinks his right.

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

3. "Very Good Advice" from Alice in Wonderland (because, yes, after finishing Alice, I want to add a nod to this somewhere)

Yoon Tae Yi(2020). She is not a day dreamer like the real Alice, but she does have her fantasy about time travel or about humans who are so advanced that they are able to hide their identity and live amongst them. So, just like musical she does gets involved with the time travel thing and gets to experience her fantasy

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

this was recommended to me by @kireeti2 a long time ago, and I'm finally getting around to including it)

I did ? Are you saying about the time when you asked me to choose a character from Joo won's drama and you'll choose musical for that character? I hope I would pick the same character I chose last time.

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

4. "Touch the Sky" from Brave (this was recommended to me by @kireeti2 a long time ago, and I'm finally getting around to including it)

Princess Hyemyung, just the Merida she is also a rebel and does things according to her terms and hated to be like a traditional lady and more over hates to live her life in order to get approval from others. I really hope I choose the similar character like last time

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

5. "Strong" from Cinderella

Oh Kyung Joo (Park Si-On's Mom): Not an ideal one but the one I could think of close to this musical. Despite being treated poorly by her husband she choose to accompany in his last days and she always there to look of Park Si-On even though it was at distance. So, her qualities do fit with this musical

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

6. "Reflection" from Mulan

Kim Do Yeon: I would have chosen Yoon Tae Yin here as well, but I couldn't because of the no repetition rule. Even though there was no culturally pressure on her, I choose her because of fearless nature like Mulan and her will to choose her own destiny.So, I choose her on the ground of similarity in  qualities

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

7. "Baby Mine" from Dumbo

 

Disney character: Mrs. Jumbo (not her singing, but it's her point of view)

Park Sun Young(a.k.a Yoon Tae Yi from future): She is also in similar situation,like, she does get separated from her son, but it is permanent in nature and she always believed in her son that he will turn out to be good person and never let others get to him due to his unique personality (like, other kids calling him psycho). So, Mrs.Jumbo and Yoon Tae Yi loved their kids who were unique than from other kids of their age

20 hours ago, kittyna said:

8. "Show Yourself" from Frozen 2

 

Disney character: Elsa

 

Context: After a long journey, Elsa reaches the source of the voice she has been hearing, believing that it could tell her why she was born with magical powers. There, she discovers that the answer lies in her mother's past.

Han Yeo Jin: Just like Elsa found meaning of her life after chasing the voice, Han Yeo Jin also found a reason to stay alive and lead a meaningful life after meeting Kim Tae Hyun. On top of that, both these characters personality changes and accept themselves as they are and found love in the end.

 

 

I must say, this challenge for girl's round made me think differently(and enjoyed it) and also lots of names came up other than female leads from the drama. And also, its because you choose 2 musical characters who were not main leads, so this can partly be the reason for diversity in the answers

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

2. "My Lullaby" from The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride

Seo In Suk, not an ideally pick. But, she does come close to this musical character, where she wants her son to be brutal and successful at the same time and claim what she thinks his right.

 

Well, she's also the closest I've gotten right now, so back to the drawing board for me, I guess :P 

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I did ? Are you saying about the time when you asked me to choose a character from Joo won's drama and you'll choose musical for that character? I hope I would pick the same character I chose last time.

 

It was way back when I was just starting to develop this idea for music-themed challenges and that many of the ones I found were from Disney, and you were like, "Like that song from Brave" or something like that :P It's all fuzzy now (nor does it matter in the grand scheme of things), but it was a comment about a song from this film, and I assumed it was this one ;) 

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

5. "Strong" from Cinderella

Oh Kyung Joo (Park Si-On's Mom): Not an ideal one but the one I could think of close to this musical. Despite being treated poorly by her husband she choose to accompany in his last days and she always there to look of Park Si-On even though it was at distance. So, her qualities do fit with this musical

 

Aww...wasn't expecting this response, but that's so sweet :fullofhearts:(Not her situation, of course, but that innate kindness and goodwill and the strength that it implies ;))

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

7. "Baby Mine" from Dumbo

 

Disney character: Mrs. Jumbo (not her singing, but it's her point of view)

Park Sun Young(a.k.a Yoon Tae Yi from future): She is also in similar situation,like, she does get separated from her son, but it is permanent in nature and she always believed in her son that he will turn out to be good person and never let others get to him due to his unique personality (like, other kids calling him psycho). So, Mrs.Jumbo and Yoon Tae Yi loved their kids who were unique than from other kids of their age

 

Double aww now :fullofhearts:

 

By the way, am I the only one who thinks that Park Sun Young is one of the best K-drama moms, period? Like, she had to raise her son under such insurmountable odds, but not only did she manage to have him survive, she also managed to bring him up to be a good person despite the curse. :approves:

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

8. "Show Yourself" from Frozen 2

 

Disney character: Elsa

 

Context: After a long journey, Elsa reaches the source of the voice she has been hearing, believing that it could tell her why she was born with magical powers. There, she discovers that the answer lies in her mother's past.

Han Yeo Jin: Just like Elsa found meaning of her life after chasing the voice, Han Yeo Jin also found a reason to stay alive and lead a meaningful life after meeting Kim Tae Hyun. On top of that, both these characters personality changes and accept themselves as they are and found love in the end.

 

I didn't expect to see Han Yeo Jin here, but I see where you're going with her :) 

 

Question: why does JW look younger here than in his get-up as a teenage Jin Gyeom?

 

JW and Lee Si Young at the gym

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I must say, this challenge for girl's round made me think differently(and enjoyed it) and also lots of names came up other than female leads from the drama. And also, its because you choose 2 musical characters who were not main leads, so this can partly be the reason for diversity in the answers

 

Glad you liked it :) I'll come back with my own answers later.

 

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1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:
22 hours ago, kittyna said:

6. "Reflection" from Mulan

Kim Do Yeon: I would have chosen Yoon Tae Yin here as well, but I couldn't because of the no repetition rule. Even though there was no culturally pressure on her, I choose her because of fearless nature like Mulan and her will to choose her own destiny.So, I choose her on the ground of similarity in  qualities

 

Didn't get around to responding to this earlier :P 

 

I actually really like this response, since when you think about it, Do Yeon's parents do want her to settle down and (potentially) get married - and they're prepared to start setting her up with someone if she doesn't do so on her own. The problem is that she's only interested in Jin Gyeom: her dad never liked him much to begin with, and it seems that while her mom approves of their friendship (because it makes Do Yeon come off as a nice girl), she doesn't see Jin Gyeom as good boyfriend/husband material for her daughter.

 

But, like Mulan, Do Yeon's just gonna keep doing her own thing ;) 

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16 minutes ago, kittyna said:

so back to the drawing board for me, I guess

Sorry :bawling:

16 minutes ago, kittyna said:

It was way back when I was just starting to develop this idea for music-themed challenges and that many of the ones I found were from Disney, and you were like, "Like that song from Brave" or something like that :P It's all fuzzy now (nor does it matter in the grand scheme of things), but it was a comment about a song from this film, and I assumed it was this one

Ah, I do remember it vaguely, I think I made a reference towards Brave heart musical

17 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I  think it's because of lights on set and make up, and also hair-style is major difference between PJG and the Knowing Bro show Joo won

18 minutes ago, kittyna said:

JW and Lee Si Young at the gym

Lol, Si Young looks like trainer to him. I think she is veteran when it comes to gym, since she is doing it before Joo won started

20 minutes ago, kittyna said:

By the way, am I the only one who thinks that Park Sun Young is one of the best K-drama moms, period? Like, she had to raise her son under such insurmountable odds, but not only did she manage to have him survive, she also managed to bring him up to be a good person despite the curse. 

I think it's because of kim Hee Sun, she is really good at playing as protective mom, her acting "Angry Mom" was also excellent

 

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4 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I  think it's because of lights on set and make up, and also hair-style is major difference between PJG and the Knowing Bro show Joo won

 

Yeah - it's definitely a mixture of all those factors, as well as the fact that JW's actually smiling. He's not all that baby-faced to begin with, but he does end up looking younger or more innocent when he smiles. :) 


And I'm also here with my own answers to the Disney-Drama Character challenge:

 

1. "Almost There" from The Princess and the Frog

 

Disney character: Tiana

 

There are a number of these hard-working career-focused girls in JW's dramas, but right now, in terms of just a general vibe, I find myself thinking of Cha Soo Young from Ojakgyo Brothers. She seems to have that same feel of a person with a spunky determination and clear-set career goals while still being just a little bit girly (whereas, by point of contrast, I see many of the other such career-focused girls in JW's dramas like Kim Seo Won or Cha Yoon Seo as more tomboyish).

 

2. "My Lullaby" from The Lion King 2: Simba's Pride

 

Disney character: Zira

 

Geez...I really just went around in circles with this one, because most of the JW drama moms just wouldn't do or think something like this :headbang: Like, there's Seo In Sook (obviously), but there isn't really another mom in these dramas who'd try to live vicariously through her kids by encouraging them to use unscrupulous means to get ahead. BUT! What if, rather than thinking about the actual drama moms, I considered what some of the younger girls might be like if they became parents themselves? Like, a sequel sort of scenario, where one of the younger female characters became bitter and resentful (or were to begin with) because she believed her rightful place was stolen from her by someone else? Someone who wouldn't mature past this point, such that it affects how she raises her kids? Well, in that case, I can think of someone who might turn out that way: Jung Da Yeon from My Sassy Girl. So let's just go with that ;) 

 

3. "Very Good Advice" from Alice in Wonderland 

 

Disney character: Alice

 

I think I'm going to choose Seol Nae Il here, because this is the same sort of journey that she undergoes in Nae Il's Cantabile. When we first see Nae Il, she's almost not fully present in our world, preferring to live in this idealized fantasy inside her head - and we see her pushing back hard against any attempts (even from those who care for her, like Cha Yoo Jin) to take her life and her studies more seriously. However, she does eventually realize that she has to grow up if she's ever going to achieve her dreams - even if it scares her.

 

4. "Touch the Sky" from Brave 

 

Disney character: Merida

 

It's not a literal parallel, but if I were to just think of a girl who's a tomboy (especially in the "one of the guys" sort of way) and who devotes almost all of her time and passion into pursuing her main interest - becoming damn good at it as a result - I end up with Jung Si Won from Nae Il's Cantabile. Yes, it's true that she does end up dating Yoo Il Rak by the end, but that's because she knows he likes her as she is and wouldn't push her to change; anyone else would be a no-go. ;) 

 

5. "Strong" from Cinderella

 

Disney character: Cinderella 

 

Here, I knew right off the bat that I wanted to pick a female character who looks unassuming or even passive, but for whom her loving kindness is her greatest strength (i.e. the "Hufflepuff" sort of personality). And that led me in a rather interesting direction: Park Sun Young/2050-Yoon Tae Yi from Alice. Lord knows how many times she tried and failed to raise Jin Gyeom into the good person he becomes, but she never wavers in her approach, believing that sooner or later, her love and care for him will manage to stick such that he could grow to break the cycle. And, with "our" Jin Gyeom, it finally does :) 

 

6. "Reflection" from Mulan

 

Disney character: Mulan

 

lol - Yoon Tae Yi did cross my mind as well (I guess the whole "same face, different personality" thing was just too tempting), but I've already saved her for a later prompt down below ;) So, with that in mind, maybe I could go with the simpler concept of a girl who is expected by just about everyone to be soft and feminine, but who very definitely isn't. Like, it's not like she can't be girly if she has to, but it's not how she's most comfortable. Given that, even though it's not really anything groundbreaking, I'm going to say Hye Myung from My Sassy Girl here. 

 

7. "Baby Mine" from Dumbo

 

Disney character: Mrs. Jumbo

 

So I did also think of Park Sun Young at first (for obvious reasons), but since I also thought of her for #5, I wanted to go with someone different here. There are a number of moms in JW's dramas who could fit here in terms of their desire to comfort their children and stay by their side...I think I'll choose Kim Tae Hyun's mother (who is unnamed) in Yong Pal. Specifically, I think back to the dream that Tae Hyun has after he passes out inside the nuclear reactor in Episode 4, where he is able to step aside - just for a moment - from his role of the protective older brother and breadwinner to just be his mom's precious baby boy again. :criesariver:

 

8. "Show Yourself" from Frozen 2

 

Disney character: Elsa

 

Here, I wound up thinking of 2020-Yoon Tae Yi. Even though the actual circumstances are vastly different, I personally think that the fact that Elsa's mother is the one who guides her to understand and accept the purpose in her life closely mirrors how Tae Yi learns that same lesson from both her adoptive mother and her 2050 counterpart (who she believed was her biological mother). She was protective of Jin Gyeom for a while already, but it's really after those points (i.e. during the Episode 14-16 arc) that she ends up really coming into her own as his "mother".

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6 hours ago, kittyna said:

I end up with Jung Si Won from Nae Il's Cantabile.

I really like this one:approves:, since she often pressurized to act like lady like by her peers and her family. But just like the protagonist in Brave, she does successfully resists those pressures and does what she wants

6 hours ago, kittyna said:

Jung Da Yeon from My Sassy Girl. So let's just go with that ;) 

It is a bit of a stretch, but I can imagine her to take her revenge after findings a mutual enemy against the main leads and she might even use marriage as an mutual transaction to take revenge on them

6 hours ago, kittyna said:

just for a moment - from his role of the protective older brother and breadwinner to just be his mom's precious baby boy again. 

:cries: Yeah, we actually get  to see her mom only in flashbacks. And also, I think she was a strong mother who was able to raise two kids all by herself with whatever little resources she had and managed to send one to medical school.

Hmm, Joo won seems to be celebrating for some occasion. And also, it is hard to find who uploaded this video.

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Instagram update from JW's stylist - It looks like he and his team finally got around to celebrating his Producer's Award, since the writing on the cake plate says, "2021 Drama Awards/National Actor Joo Won".

 

For those who are wondering: yes, it does literally say "Yeongi Daesang" on there, but the word "daesang" can also mean awards more generally and not just the *actual* Daesang. So, the SBS Drama Awards are, in transliterated Korean, "SBS yeongi daesang". ;) 

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13 hours ago, kittyna said:

Instagram update from JW's stylist - It looks like he and his team finally got around to celebrating

A team dinner with no alcohol? Lol, it is one  rare in Korean team dinner I have ever seen, at least among on Instagram of celebrities, most the celebrities use the occasion to promote "Soju" or some kind of alcohol beverage, guess joo won doesn't do it since he doesn't drink

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

A team dinner with no alcohol?

 

Yeah, that's definitely going to be the case here - unless they want JW to end up passing out halfway through the meal :naughty:

 

FYI, I know I tease JW a lot on this forum for his inability to drink, but I do want to point out that I actually think it's one of his most endearing qualities :) It's just that, as @kireeti2 pointed out, it's so rare to see a Korean celebrity who can't drink (not "won't drink" but actually physically can't) - like, it's so contradictory to just about everything we imagine about Korean social life - that it's hard to resist that urge to have fun with it :P 

 

35 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

most the celebrities use the occasion to promote "Soju" or some kind of alcohol beverage, guess joo won doesn't do it since he doesn't drink

 

Oh dear God - if JW ever got a CF offer for soju or some other alcoholic beverage...someone clearly didn't do their homework :loolz:

 

But that being said, it's likely that members of his team would still drink at these gatherings if it's allowed - JW is more likely to just choose a non-alcoholic beverage himself (water in this case) rather than pressuring anyone else to join him.

 

By the way, this does remind me of the time on Life Log when he was shown drinking McCol (the soda brand he shot a CF for) at a dinner with his friends :) 

 

Finally, just a quick heads-up: I'm still working on the couples/pairs round of the Disney challenge. It's taking me a while because, well, I don't think anyone just wants to focus on romance eight times over ;) So, currently, I'm trying to think outside the box a little, and that includes scrounging around on YouTube for ideas.

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1 hour ago, kittyna said:

JW is more likely to just choose a non-alcoholic beverage

I think, most likely he will choose coffee

 

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

I'm still working on the couples/pairs round of the Disney challenge.

:fear: Yikes!! Couples rounds challenge  is toughest out of all the challenges,since we have to think both the point of view of Male lead and Female lead

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

 It's just that, as @kireeti2 pointed out, it's so rare to see a Korean celebrity who can't drink (not "won't drink" but actually physically can't) - like, it's so contradictory to just about everything we imagine about Korean social life - that it's hard to resist that urge to have fun with it

Yeah, in Joo won's case it is physical barrier not the mental. Like, he can't drink even though he want to. But I do believe he smokes, right?

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

Oh dear God - if JW ever got a CF offer for soju or some other alcoholic beverage...someone clearly didn't do their homework 

Well it's not like a moral thing, joo won could drink water from a Alcohol brand or just take a sip and spit it. Moon Chae Won does the same thing, like if she wants to shoot a drinking scene she would just drink water from the alcohol bottle or spit it out after the shot is done.

 

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33 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

Well it's not like a moral thing, joo won could drink water from a Alcohol brand or just take a sip and spit it. Moon Chae Won does the same thing, like if she wants to shoot a drinking scene she would just drink water from the alcohol bottle or spit it out after the shot is done.

 

 

Yeah, I know (how else would he do it in dramas?), I was just fooling around :P Commercial deals are different from acting, because even if we know it's not actually the case, the endorsement is implying that the celebrity actually uses the product and can vouch for it. Which, in the case of JW plus any alcoholic beverage, would be so blatantly untrue as to be completely nonsensical :lol:

 

36 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

But I do believe he smokes, right?

 

To the best of my knowledge, yes. It sounds really counter-intuitive - and many new fans are shocked when they find out - but it's not something that JW actively tries to hide. Okay, so he doesn't flaunt it either, but the evidence is there in these little "blink and you miss them" sorts of ways (e.g. a reference in Life Log to there being cigarettes in his van). 

 

It actually took me a long time to wrap my head around this, because I was so used to his fluffy and wholesome "aegyo maknae" image, but I did eventually realize that smoking (at least among men) was socially acceptable in Korea and wasn't seen as a reflection of one's moral character. And it's extremely prevalent in the entertainment industry, since nicotine functions as both a stimulant and an appetite suppressant. Most likely, though, actors or idols who smoke are occasional smokers rather than the type who constantly needs a cigarette (since that just wouldn't be practical with their busy schedules).

 

Of course, simply for the health risk and the negative long-term effects of smoking on someone's singing voice, I will always wish that he decides to quit. But at the same time, coming back to this whole broader discussion of vices in general...I'd rather have him smoking than drinking ;) There's less room for poor judgment and bad choices, all things considered.

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

I think, most likely he will choose coffee

 

lol - Probably :P 

 

1 hour ago, kireeti2 said:

Yikes!! Couples rounds challenge  is toughest out of all the challenges,since we have to think both the point of view of Male lead and Female lead

 

Which is why I'm trying my best to change it up right now - more on that when it's ready ;) 

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In around 2 hours Joo Won and Ivy shorterview will be on air in YouTube.

Can't wait.. also don't know if I can watch it properly at work. :sweatingbullets: But fan girl in me will not just let me be patient. So I don't what I will happen.

 

Also in previous update there's a photo frame with Sam and Molly couple photo.. I wonder when did they took it. At early stage of promotion or later.

 

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Hope we'll get to see a better look at it in the show 

 

More at: https://mobile.twitter.com/JWTHFC/status/1351839187742416896

 

4 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

These three look like typical High school best friends from typical Kdrama

 

Other than Park Jun Myeon none of these other friends are talkative type and and JW is the one who talks lest. I wonder how it'll go on..the way he was playing with his hands showes he has many things going on in his mind or nothing going on his mind at all..:lol: Also from preview it showed he had fun. So can't wait to watch it.

 

And he picked Lee Su Guen as the Hyung-nim he missed. He's excited to meet LSG after a long time. :D

 

And our Joo Won is Soo cute! :wub:

Saying "watch it realtime~"

 

 

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It's here... :gangnamstyle:

With English subtitles! 

 

 

Shorterview with Joo Won and Ivy is so damn funny.. Honestly I didn't think I'd enjoy it this much.

 

JW is so spontaneous.. specially the soul swapping corner he was so damn natural..laughed and loved it so much.

 

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That idea was really cool.. writers did some cool writing to come up with that segment.

 

Specially when JW and IVY asked if they'd ever felt something for the other as women/man.. they were so playful and witty. I really had fun watching this.

 

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