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Father's Day with Joo Won  

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  1. 1. Who is the most fun father (figure) of Joo Won's character? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice: Yoon Min Hyuk (Kwak Si Yang) - Father
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    • Alice: Det. Go Hyeon Seok (Kim Sang Ho) - Father figure
    • Good Doctor: Dr. Choi Woo Seok (Cheon Ho Jin) - Father figure
    • Good Doctor: Park Choon Sung (Jung Ho Keun) - Father
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    • Yong Pal: Tae Hyun’s father (Choi Joon Yong) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Han Joo Man (Dok Ko Yeong Jae) - Father
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    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Kim Won Seok (Ahn Nae Sang) - Father figure
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    • Nae Il’s Cantabile: Cha Dong Woo (Jung Bo Suk) - Father
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    • My Sassy Girl: Gyun Pil Young (Jo Hee Bong) - Father
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    • Bridal Mask: Lee Sun (Lee Il Jae) - Father
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    • Someone else (Please mention in your comments)
  2. 2. Who is the strictest father (figure) of Joo Won's character? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice: Yoon Min Hyuk (Kwak Si Yang) - Father
    • Alice: Det. Go Hyeon Seok (Kim Sang Ho) - Father figure
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    • Good Doctor: Dr. Choi Woo Seok (Cheon Ho Jin) - Father figure
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    • Good Doctor: Park Choon Sung (Jung Ho Keun) - Father
    • Yong Pal: Tae Hyun’s father (Choi Joon Yong) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Han Joo Man (Dok Ko Yeong Jae) - Father
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant: Kim Won Seok (Ahn Nae Sang) - Father figure
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    • Nae Il’s Cantabile: Cha Dong Woo (Jung Bo Suk) - Father
    • My Sassy Girl: Gyun Pil Young (Jo Hee Bong) - Father
    • Bridal Mask: Lee Sun (Lee Il Jae) - Father
    • Someone else (Please mention in your comments)
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  3. 3. In which drama do you wish that Joo Won’s character should be closer to his dad? (choose as many as you want)

    • Alice
    • My Sassy Girl
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    • Yong Pal
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    • Naeil’s Cantabile
    • Good Doctor
    • 7th Grade Civil Servant
    • Bridal Mask
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    • Ojakgyo Family
    • King of Baking, Kim Takgu

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3 hours ago, kittyna said:

Yeah - same symptoms from Episode 5 after his time travel to 2010, but this time, we see that they coincide exactly with when this superpower gives out and time resumes its original pace. Again, this is something I hope the drama delves into further, along with why (up to this point at least) Jin Gyeom doesn't have the same symptoms as others who've traveled through time including Tae Yi.

 

(Yes, I know that Episode 10 explains why those from "Alice" are fine - some sort of anti-radiation medication they carry on their persons - but that just makes Jin Gyeom's situation even weirder, knowing that he's like neither those from 2020 nor those from 2050.)

I really hope they will give closure to every character, I know it is too early to talk about ending, but the way story is progressing it might not be able to tie the loose ends properly. Like, it is sort of clear that JG is going to leave everyone because he is in the timeline he is not supposed to be in and it would be cool if joins MY and fight the evil Alice and Teacher teams, that would be like an open ending and cool one. But, I am worried about DY, god! I really feel bad for her, she literally leaves everything if JG needs any help or is in trouble, and I don't really see DY and JG end up together and some times it is frustrating to watch every time he breaks her heart not intentionally but it is painful to watch her disappointing and writers better have a good closure for DY. Coming to TY(2020), I guess she will choose to destroy the prospects of time travel and part ways with JG, since their not supposed be in the same timeline, So, I cannot think of no ending in which JG dying or leaving the timeline in which he doesn't belong to

:bawling:

3 hours ago, kittyna said:

That's a good point. We know that mini-Tae Yi had it on the night her father was killed, but we don't know what happened to it afterwards - or even whether Tae Yi held on to it at all, since I doubt a child her age would understand why that one page was so important.

Yeah, I saw that drawing in TY's(2020) college book, when JG traveled back to 2010, so I guess TY(2020) remembers the last page in bits and pieces.

 

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16 hours ago, kittyna said:

Not that she likes what she sees, and I don't blame her. I think there's a reasonable argument now that there won't be much of a love line between Yoon Tae Yi and Park Jin Gyeom anymore, simply because romance (or the potential of a romance) is pretty much the last thing on her mind right now. She knows she cares deeply for Jin Gyeom, and she wants to do everything in her power to protect him, but what is there to be done when there's literally just a week left? (Sun Young/Tae Yi's birthday is October 7, and Jin Gyeom's date of death - according to his grave marker in 2021 - is October 15.)

 

I actually thought since the beginning that those supposedly romantic scenes are to toy with viewers mind.. May be because I believed too much in Director nims speech on Alice Drama that he gave on press conference that Alice will be a story of family reunion sort of.. That most people time travels in order to meet family and loved ones in order to make up for lost times with their family. My translation may not be accurate but it's along the line with what he said. And along with those questionable moment, I could always focus on Alice throwing multiple scenes that just showed how close 2020 Tae Yi is to 2050 Tae Yi.

And there was that shirt removing scene that I have previously said I found it quite funny..and again in episode 10 they washing hair scene- TY litterally acted like mother to JG, the way she teased him specially.. I found it cute.

 

And this week Do Yeon just asked the important question- can all of this be a coincidence? For Real?

 

16 hours ago, kittyna said:

And I have to give it to both Kim Hee Sun and the screenwriters here for being able to get at so many nuances in Tae Yi's conflicting emotions right now: she's clearly badly shaken by what she discovered in her time travel, and she's desperately searching for answers, but there's a part of her that I think was still in denial...until Jin Gyeom gave her the necklace. It's like, somehow, that's the one thing that she needs to fully realize that she may, in fact, be powerless to stop what feels inevitable.

 

Kim Hee Sun is doing fabulous. She is full of expressions.. Wow..my first time watching her drama.

 

16 hours ago, kittyna said:

That aside, though, I did enjoy this episode overall. I thought the scenes shot inside the house - with Jin Gyeom in 2020 and Tae Yi in 2021 - were brilliantly done (just gorgeous editing throughout), and I also thought the whole hair-washing scene was really cute. Definitely got more parent-child than couple vibes there, though: especially with how Tae Yi teased Jin Gyeom by tapping him on the nose like that :) Also, it's worth noting that Jin Gyeom's feelings for Tae Yi are still firmly rooted in his longing for his mother: I noticed that when he found Tae Yi in the cemetery, he ends up looking behind her at his mother's photo; and it's memories of his mother's birthday (and ultimately death day) that end up coaxing a full-blown celebration for Tae Yi out from him.

 

 

I loved this scene... the scene was so amazing.  Clap for Writer and Director for putting such a nice scene that established a communication between these two despite time differences..:approves:

 

 

 

7 hours ago, kittyna said:

The full process of filming a fight scene in Alice - Storyboard, rehearsal, filming, monitoring :) 

 

Like this video.. specially the animated story.. 

 

6 hours ago, kittyna said:

Personally, I think the whereabouts of the last page will be connected to who put Tae Yi up for adoption in the first place. Jin Gyeom suspects right now that her mother didn't actually die in childbirth (based on Tae Yi's testimony), but I actually think that she did and the person Tae Yi thinks is her mother actually isn't. We'll have to see how that all plays out; we should get an answer soon now that Jin Gyeom's also trying to search for Tae Yi's biological mother.

 

In Ep 10 Jin Gyeom starts suspecting his mother Park Sun Young to be the one who left young Tae Yi in the orphanage after Detective Dong Ho confirms to him that tae yi's mother is indeed dead. Jin Gyeom or should  I say we're getting closer to truth.. Many of us suspected Tae Yi's memory of Mom to be 2050 YTY.

 

2 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I really hope they will give closure to every character, I know it is too early to talk about ending, but the way story is progressing it might not be able to tie the loose ends properly. Like, it is sort of clear that JG is going to leave everyone because he is in the timeline he is not supposed to be in and it would be cool if joins MY and fight the evil Alice and Teacher teams, that would be like an open ending and cool one. But, I am worried about DY, god! I really feel bad for her, she literally leaves everything if JG needs any help or is in trouble, and I don't really see DY and JG end up together and some times it is frustrating to watch every time he breaks her heart not intentionally but it is painful to watch her disappointing and writers better have a good closure for DY. Coming to TY(2020), I guess she will choose to destroy the prospects of time travel and part ways with JG, since their not supposed be in the same timeline, So, I cannot think of no ending in which JG dying or leaving the timeline in which he doesn't belong to

:bawling:

 

I hope they sums up well without leaving any major loose ends.. I am hoping a sort of family reunion.. I don't know what sort of reunion it will be..and deep down I want DY's feelings to be reciprocated by Jin Gyeom at least in a way that will not be out of character.. I would be happy with a subtle hint too.. Because it's a melodrama..I keep saying that I am not hopeful about them having a optimistic future together them being people of two timeline but all these sweet Jin Gyeom-Do Yeon scenes along with their childhood flashbacks are messing with my logical side.. :sweet:

 

I want to see Mom Dad together too. I don't know how but I just do.:P 

 

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3 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I really hope they will give closure to every character, I know it is too early to talk about ending, but the way story is progressing it might not be able to tie the loose ends properly. Like, it is sort of clear that JG is going to leave everyone because he is in the timeline he is not supposed to be in and it would be cool if joins MY and fight the evil Alice and Teacher teams, that would be like an open ending and cool one.

 

39 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

I hope they sums up well without leaving any major loose ends.. I am hoping a sort of family reunion.. I don't know what sort of reunion it will be..and deep down I want DY's feelings to be reciprocated by Jin Gyeom at least in a way that will not be out of character.. I would be happy with a subtle hin too.. Because it's a melodrama..I keep saying that I am not hopeful about them having a optimistic future together them being people of two timeline but all these sweet jin Gyeom Do Yeao scenes along with their childhood flashbacks are messing with my logical side.. 

 

I want to see Mom Dad together too. I don't know how but I just do.:P 

 

Well, if we're going into a wish list for things we want to see by the ending, I'm with @kireeti2 in wanting to see Jin Gyeom and Min Hyuk kicking butt together at least once. I'm sure I'll have more to say about the father-son relationship once I've actually watched Episode 10 in detail (the snippets I've seen look promising, if nothing else), but I think I can at least say that I want...if not a full reconciliation, then at least a mutual understanding and respect.

 

Romance-wise, I don't have particular hopes in any real direction. Right now, I haven't seen enough interaction between 2020 Tae Yi and Yoo Min Hyuk for me to have a hypothesis re: where it could go. However, I definitely think the ship has sailed (pun intended) on any sort of romance between Jin Gyeom and either Do Yeon or Tae Yi.

 

However, I do hope that Do Yeon and Tae Yi come around to one another at some point. In reality, they're on the same page with a common goal now - keeping Jin Gyeom safe and happy - but they're both too caught up in their rivalry to see that. Again, at least up until what I've seen in Episode 9 - it sounds like Episode 10 might be a turning point here, too.

 

Looking on a broader scale at "Alice", time travel, etc., I definitely see the merits of actually putting a stop to it, but I'm also concerned about what that would do to the characters and their relationships. If Jin Gyeom does stay in the timeline/universe he's currently in, that'd leave Min Hyuk alone on his end - and if Jin Gyeom joins his father in his "rightful" place, then where does that leave Tae Yi, Do Yeon, and all those others who love and care for him (romantically and otherwise) here? 

 

And that's assuming everyone actually makes it to the end, which is also something I doubt, to be honest.

 

39 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

And there was that shirt removing scene that I have previously said I found it quite funny..and again in episode 10 they washing hair scene- TY litterally acted like mother to JG, the way she teased him specially.. I found it cute.

 

That's what I thought with the hair-washing scene, too - I definitely think Tae Yi was flirting with Jin Gyeom in some of the scenes from earlier episodes, but Episode 9 showed a significant shift in her attitude, and this moment was one example of that. It's like the time travel ahead to 2021 forced Tae Yi to become a lot more mature - she wasn't selfish or childish before, but she was definitely the centre of her own world, but knowing about Jin Gyeom's death in advance is making her a lot more aware of the bigger picture now.

 

But, just like any other intellectual, it's good to see that Tae Yi hasn't lost her nerdy one-track scientific mind. Honestly, I think this has been my favourite Do Yeon vs. Tae Yi moment so far. :loolz:Probably because, despite being in humanities rather than sciences, I found Tae Yi's response so relatable.

 

39 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

I loved this scene... the scene was so amazing.  Clap for Writer and Director for putting such a nice scene that established a communication between these two despite time differences..

 

And kudos to Park Jin Gyeom for using the Post-It notes idea - and now we know that past events have a definitive literal effect on the future (as his notes start magically appearing in front of Tae Yi in 2021).

 

3 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Yeah, I saw that drawing in TY's(2020) college book, when JG traveled back to 2010, so I guess TY(2020) remembers the last page in bits and pieces.

 

The illustration is from one of the earlier pages in the book - but if Tae Yi managed to remember that despite not having seen it since 1992, then there's definitely reason to believe she might remember something of that last page, which she had longer.

 

39 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

In Ep 10 Jin Gyeom starts suspecting his mother Park Sun Young to be the one who left young Tae Yi in the orphanage after Detective Dong Ho confirms to him that tae yi's mother is indeed dead. Jin Gyeom or should  I say we're getting closer to truth.. Many of us suspected Tae Yi's memory of Mom to be 2050 YTY.

 

Oh, I suspected that from the start as well, for numerous reasons. One is just seeing 2050-Tae Yi's sympathy for mini-Tae Yi - I figured that once she committed to her choice to stay in 1992, she'd do something to make sure this kid (who, whether she recognized herself or not, was still an innocent bystander who's become scarred for life due to the actions of time travelers like her) was properly cared for. Secondly, it's worth noting that in the amusement park scene from Episode 7, mini-Tae Yi stops to stare at Park Sun Young first, suggesting that she recognizes her on some subconscious level.

 

(Lord knows what mini-Jin Gyeom noticed about mini-Tae Yi, though - maybe he just wanted the balloon :lol:)

 

By the way, I can't actually understand the text (I don't know a word of Indonesian, which is too bad because Indonesian and Japanese fans are the most vocal demographics I see among JW's Instagram fans), but I did find this interesting graphic about the different groups/factions that exist concerning time travel in Alice . Good of them to notice that Park Sun Young had a different mark than the others we've seen so far. ;) Also, it did cross my mind that Min Hyuk's failed attempt to "kidnap" Jin Gyeom in Episode 5 may have been a lowkey attempt to recruit him to "Alice", but right now, boy's caught in the middle of all three teams here. :P 

 

39 minutes ago, flutterby06 said:

Kim Hee Sun is doing fabulous. She is full of expressions.. Wow..my first time watching her drama

 

I already saw her in Room No. 9, where she also plays two different characters (go figure), so I knew from the start she was going to be good. :) lol - Two dramas for a total of four characters...it's like a sampler menu :lol:

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48 minutes ago, kittyna said:

 

I already saw her in Room No. 9, where she also plays two different characters (go figure), so I knew from the start she was going to be good. :) lol - Two dramas for a total of four characters...it's like a sampler menu :lol:

 

 

How come I keep forgotting that I watched her in Room No. 9. I've no idea.. :huh:

 

She was good in Room No. 9 too..

I have always wanted to watch her movie with Jacki Chan but never got to watch it.. may be that's why I feel like It's my first time watching her. I don't know what's ring with my memory!!

 

Even if I consider (!) not watching room no. 9 I was aware of her good reputation as actress.. I was expecting good things. But she's playing such different characters here it just feels good watching her numerous expression.

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And here I am with my thoughts on Episode 10 of Alice.

 

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Just going to say it right now: I might be right or I might be wrong, but I'm currently guessing that Gi Cheol Am is the Teacher. It's mostly just process of elimination - as he's the only character whose motives are still a mystery, and everyone who's known to be in "Team Sigma" (to use the term from that Instagram post) has been ruled out as the person on top. On top of that, his whole "Let me take care of Jin Gyeom" and "Let me take this to headquarters" spiels to Min Hyuk are sounding really sketchy right now. Point is: if he does turn out to be the "Teacher", then I really hope Min Hyuk gets a chance to kick his you-know-what by the end :evillaugh:

 

As for Go Hyung Seok, given that the main reveal of his involvement was already in Episodes 8/9, this episode was really more about Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom putting together the pieces on their own than any major twist for the viewers. So this time, I actually want to give a major kudos to the writers. There are a number of different narrative approaches they could have taken to build suspense in this episode: 1) having us as viewers find out the details at the same time as the protagonist (in this case, Jin Gyeom); or 2) having us as viewers know in advance of the protagonist. Each broad technique has its pros and cons, but I really love that the Alice writers took the second approach here, because we get to feel every single bit of urgency, desperation, and pain that Tae Yi feels on Jin Gyeom's behalf - and if we didn't know in advance like she did, that sort of pathos wouldn't have been possible.

 

There were many moments between Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom that were brilliant for this, but I think my personal favourite is the bit in the amusement park. How or why the significance of this outing slipped Tae Yi's mind is beyond me, but just like with the necklace, seeing the selfie was a massive wake-up call for her - and under those circumstances, I'm glad that she tried to warn Jin Gyeom about what would happen. However, I am also completely unsurprised that Jin Gyeom refused to listen, because the one thing that Tae Yi hadn't taken into consideration was that finding out the truth of his mother's death has been Jin Gyeom's entire reason for living these past ten years. Under those circumstances, the thought that he'd die in the process doesn't faze Jin Gyeom at all. The discovery that Go Hyung Seok was involved does (of course), but the actual danger to himself doesn't.

 

(That's the thing about prophecies - they foretell what is going to happen because of, not despite of, the thought processes of the people involved. And I love that Alice has been consistent on this point so far.)

 

However, there are signs that both Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom have (deliberately for her and inadvertently for him) set a slightly different path in motion. For Tae Yi, it was deleting the photograph; and for Jin Gyeom, it was destroying the USB that contained the incriminating evidence against Go Hyung Seok (since Tae Yi finds among Jin Gyeom's belongings in 2021, it implies he originally actually had it on his person when he died). It may not be enough to actually change the outcome (i.e. Go Hyung Seok killing - or at least attempting to kill - Jin Gyeom), but it does appear, going by the Episode 11 preview, that it is enough to change the exact circumstances.

 

And speaking of revealing truths and giving warnings, I really, really like what we see of Min Hyuk's character arc in this episode. I did see some comments on Instagram re: his explanation to Jin Gyeom that he was a friend of his mother's, asking why he didn't just outright tell Jin Gyeom who he was. But I actually think his reluctance makes total perfect sense here. Min Hyuk and Jin Gyeom both have their own respective emotional baggage concerning their relationship, so I can definitely see why Min Hyuk wants to take care of that first before he could feel confident identifying himself to Jin Gyeom. And if/when Jin Gyeom does find out (from Min Hyuk or otherwise), he, too, will have his own baggage to sort out before any sort of reconciliation will be possible.

 

So, for instance, seeing Min Hyuk's reaction to Jin Gyeom finding him in Lee Se Hoon's hotel room...oof. That hurt. Especially when, in his attempts to flee, he accidentally clips Jin Gyeom with his car. Like, you could literally see the "Oh, crap!" look on Min Hyuk's face when that happens - because he knows that rather than gaining ground with his son, he's just lost a ton more, even compared to the beginning of the episode.

 

Given that it's most likely that Jin Gyeom's going to survive Episode 11 somehow (otherwise, we wouldn't have much of a story left), I do hope we get to see him taking some steps towards realizing that Min Hyuk's his biological father. Kid needs a paternal figure in his life, and he's just lost the only one he has :criesariver:

 

And, on a slightly lighter note, I love this newest dose of cast shenanigans: Kim Do Yeon's Instagram. Honestly, I just thought the group photo was posted on Lee Da In's Instagram when I saw it being credited to  "Do Yeon" - but nope. It's literally a fictional account for her character :) 

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3 hours ago, kittyna said:

However, there are signs that both Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom have (deliberately for her and inadvertently for him) set a slightly different path in motion. For Tae Yi, it was deleting the photograph; and for Jin Gyeom, it was destroying the USB that contained the incriminating evidence against Go Hyung Seok (since Tae Yi finds among Jin Gyeom's belongings in 2021, it implies he originally actually had it on his person when he died). It may not be enough to actually change the outcome (i.e. Go Hyung Seok killing - or at least attempting to kill - Jin Gyeom), but it does appear, going by the Episode 11 preview, that it is enough to change the exact circumstances.

I think the writers are going with the "Butterfly" effect. Like, small changes can create different outcomes, though not desirable ones. I read this theory in one of the fan page, that, MY is going to save JG from Detective Ko, but JG wouldn't be happy about it either and at that moment MY might reveal that he is his father in order to explain why he saved him. In the preview we can see that JG is sort of giving an expression of shock and understanding at the same time, like he is in shock that Detective Ko betrayed him and he is able to understand why he is doing this, Detective Ko mentions that he is doing this in order to save his wife. So, yeah in episode 11 we can expect death of few main characters. Like, I wasn't expecting that Detective Ko will kill that convict guy who helped him find PSY , that was totally unexpected, I thought he has some bigger role to play, I guess teacher thought he had no use of him and hence, ordered Ko to execute him.

 

3 hours ago, kittyna said:

I might be right or I might be wrong, but I'm currently guessing that Gi Cheol Am is the Teacher

He is the last guy on my list as a possibility of being "Teacher". It would be fun if writers make TY's sister as Teacher, it'll ruin the drama but it would be great twist:joy:

3 hours ago, kittyna said:

There were many moments between Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom that were brilliant for this, but I think my personal favourite is the bit in the amusement park

And also, that Twice music "What is love" is being used over and over whenever there is touching scene or happy moment between JG and TY. :joy: And also, JG expressionless Roller Coaster ride was the best comic relief in this episode, it almost looked like he is afraid of the ride :joy:

 

11 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

I am not hopeful about them having a optimistic future together them being people of two timeline but all these sweet Jin Gyeom-Do Yeon scenes along with their childhood flashbacks are messing with my logical side.. :sweet:

 

I want to see Mom Dad together too. I don't know how but I just do.

I don't think we will get an ending where all main couples are going to be reunited or end up together. I can see only possible relation is friendship between TY(2020) and DY bonding over loss of JG

 

11 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

In Ep 10 Jin Gyeom starts suspecting his mother Park Sun Young to be the one who left young Tae Yi in the orphanage after Detective Dong Ho confirms to him that tae yi's mother is indeed dead. Jin Gyeom or should  I say we're getting closer to truth.. Many of us suspected Tae Yi's memory of Mom to be 2050 YTY.

Maybe PSY has her reasons for protecting TY (2020), like, we know that PSY possesses the book of prophecy in which the last page is missing, so, PSY thought mini TY might have seen the last page, which ultimately guides the Seo Ok Won research team to stop time travel.

11 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

And there was that shirt removing scene that I have previously said I found it quite funny..and again in episode 10 they washing hair scene- TY litterally acted like mother to JG, the way she teased him specially.. I found it cute.

And also, it was cute how DY and TY were fighting literally like Mother in law and Daughter in law, these two would do great in soap opera dramas and JG  was like the son/husband who is unable to  make peace between his mom and wife :joy:

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4 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

In the preview we can see that JG is sort of giving an expression of shock and understanding at the same time, like he is in shock that Detective Ko betrayed him and he is able to understand why he is doing this, Detective Ko mentions that he is doing this in order to save his wife. So, yeah in episode 11 we can expect death of few main characters. Like, I wasn't expecting that Detective Ko will kill that convict guy who helped him find PSY , that was totally unexpected, I thought he has some bigger role to play, I guess teacher thought he had no use of him and hence, ordered Ko to execute him.

 

Well, Lee Se Hoon (the convict) was also, from the Teacher's perspective, too dangerous to keep around: "Alice" and Park Jin Gyeom are both onto him, and it looks like the Teacher guessed that he'd try to tell Jin Gyeom everything. Lee Se Hoon was well aware that someone would be sent to kill him (hence his offer to Jin Gyeom of information in return for protection); it's just that "Sigma" (which is what I'll call the group for now) got to him first.

 

But now that we know for sure that Go Hyung Seok's involved with "Sigma", even though we still don't know who the Teacher is, I think there are some reasonable arguments we can make about how it operates:

  • Members are only given information/orders on a "need to know" basis. Except for the Teacher, no-one knows the bigger picture and is only told, "So-and-so is involved in stopping time travel - kill them." We see in the 2010 flashbacks this time that it was only after he'd gotten into the house and saw the photograph that Go Hyung Seok knew 2050-Tae Yi was Jin Gyeom's mother. And he seemed really stunned or floored by that. (This makes me think that he has no intention of hurting or killing Jin Gyeom yet, but might receive orders along those lines in Episode 11.)
  • There appears to be a rather strict system of rewards/punishments here, which is what led Lee Se Hoon to fear for his life, and for Go Hyung Seok to be easily controlled due to some connection to his wife (either "Sigma" is threatening her, or they have something they can give her - we don't know which yet, but both are common routes in K-dramas)
  • Wherever/whenever "Sigma" is based in the future, it clearly does not have the same elite status that "Alice" does. They have their own underground means to achieve time travel (the implant that Yoo Min Hyuk finds during Ju Hae Min's autopsy - which might also be the origin for the scar behind the ear), and they also have time cards - but they lack all the other technology that "Alice" has. The gun Go Hyung Seok had in 2010 was just a normal handgun rather than the portable one that "Alice" agents have, and we see "Sigma" members communicating with burner phones instead of things like drones, in-ear devices, etc.
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Which means, if we put all that together, there's still more to Park Sun Young's death than what we've seen so far - because even though the drone's presence can now be explained (Oh Si Young watching what happened, for a number of possible reasons), the weapon is still linked to "Alice". So what gives?

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

He is the last guy on my list as a possibility of being "Teacher". It would be fun if writers make TY's sister as Teacher, it'll ruin the drama but it would be great twist

 

Or the "Teacher" is someone we haven't even seen yet (although it's rather late in the game for that to be the case in a K-drama). It's all too early to know for sure, but the point is: whether he's the Teacher or not, I still don't trust Cheol Am. Not yet, anyway.

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I read this theory in one of the fan page, that, MY is going to save JG from Detective Ko, but JG wouldn't be happy about it either and at that moment MY might reveal that he is his father in order to explain why he saved him.

 

That's an interesting idea, actually. It hinges on whether Min Hyuk finds out what is going on in time, though - if he does find out, we definitely know he'll intervene (because if he couldn't save Tae Yi, he's gonna try to make up for it by saving their son), but if he doesn't...we'll have to see.

 

Maybe the whole "stopping time" thing will happen again, but I will admit I prefer the theory involving Min Hyuk to that. I don't want Jin Gyeom's new-and-still-uncontrolled ability to turn into some sort of deus ex machina cop-out. :P 

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I don't think we will get an ending where all main couples are going to be reunited or end up together. I can see only possible relation is friendship between TY(2020) and DY bonding over loss of JG

 

It does seem like that's what happens in 2021 as things currently stand - which is why Tae Yi and Do Yeon are supposedly on a trip to Spain together, despite both of them thinking that'd be impossible now.

 

But overall, I do think Episode 10 was a turning point for Do Yeon: both as a character in and of herself, and in her relationships with Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom. See, if I feel like Tae Yi matured noticeably in Episode 9, I think Do Yeon's also did in Episode 10. She's still against Tae Yi and Jin Gyeom being together, but for once, it's not out of her perceived romantic rivalry. Instead, she finally has a heart-to-heart talk with Tae Yi, and reveals that she's worried this constant mental association between Tae Yi and Park Sun Young in Jin Gyeom's mind is holding him back from moving on from what happened. Mind you: this whole "you have to move on from the past" response to grief has its pros and cons, but Do Yeon is coming at it with good intentions.

 

Not that that's going to stop Tae Yi (nor should it, given what she knows that Do Yeon doesn't), but I actually really liked Do Yeon's role in Episode 10 compared to everything else we've seen from her so far. :) 

 

By the way, this is from a few weeks ago, but I don't think anyone's shared it on this forum yet. I think this OST track is tied with the first one as my favourite so far.

 

 

 

And here's the newest OST track, too. I haven't listened to it in full yet, but here you go.

 

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

And also, JG expressionless Roller Coaster ride was the best comic relief in this episode, it almost looked like he is afraid of the ride

 

I also think he got motion sickness on top of being  scared. :lol:

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35 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I still don't trust Cheol Am. Not yet, anyway.

I wouldn't trust him has a manager or as a head of any institution, let alone Alice. Dude is such lousy boss, he really doesn't know what is happening in his own institution which he is supposed to be run and is responsible for its functioning. Every time his subordinated inform him something he likes What?! Why wasn't I kept in the loop? blah blah, like he is suppose to keep an eye on his employees and needs to look after them. Like, I know he is like a close friend to MY and Oh young, but still he is suppose to know what they are up to.

39 minutes ago, kittyna said:

But now that we know for sure that Go Hyung Seok's involved with "Sigma", even though we still don't know who the Teacher is, I think there are some reasonable arguments we can make about how it operate

Yeah, you are points about team sigma are spot on. Like, this team is like some underground gang members who are able to do time travel avoiding detection by Alice. So, they are not very advance but still able to use guerilla tactics to avoid getting tracked by Alice or the police.

 

42 minutes ago, kittyna said:

I don't want Jin Gyeom's new-and-still-uncontrolled ability to turn into some sort of deus ex machina cop-out.

Speaking of logic, Do you know why or how exactly TY and that time traveling assassin get on top of the building? There was not further explanation in the next episode

 

44 minutes ago, kittyna said:

And here's the newest OST track, too. I haven't listened to it in full yet, but here you go.

This OST is really catchy, even though I understand only fraction of the lyrics

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19 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

I wouldn't trust him has a manager or as a head of any institution, let alone Alice. Dude is such lousy boss, he really doesn't know what is happening in his own institution which he is supposed to be run and is responsible for its functioning. Every time his subordinated inform him something he likes What?! Why wasn't I kept in the loop? blah blah, like he is suppose to keep an eye on his employees and needs to look after them. Like, I know he is like a close friend to MY and Oh young, but still he is suppose to know what they are up to.

 

When you have a leader-type character like that, they're either incompetent (your take) or feigning ignorance to hide something shady (my take - hence my thought that he might be the Teacher). Either way, I feel like this is going to end with Min Hyuk kicking his butt at some point - figuratively or literally :P

 

He also seems to be banking on Min Hyuk taking him at his word, but right now, Min Hyuk is also slowly learning the hard way not to trust anybody. Which is yet another reason why I hope Min Hyuk makes some progress with Jin Gyeom soon: because most of his other relationships are turning out to be rather toxic for him.

 

26 minutes ago, kireeti2 said:

Speaking of logic, Do you know why or how exactly TY and that time traveling assassin get on top of the building? There was not further explanation in the next episode

 

There have been a couple of these gaps so far - the other one is how Yoo Min Hyuk figured out Park Sun Young was 2050-Tae Yi just from reading Jin Gyeom's family registry - so I can't say I know for sure. My guess is that he knocked her out and took her up there, but then the question is why, when it'd be a ton easier to just kill her in her room. lol - Probably just a classic case of villains screwing themselves over by overthinking their plans :P 

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1 hour ago, kittyna said:

Which is yet another reason why I hope Min Hyuk makes some progress with Jin Gyeom soon: because most of his other relationships are turning out to be rather toxic for him.

You seem to invested a lot in the MY-JG relationship, it does makes sense though, since both are from 2050 and I too feel like JG will have trouble living in 2020 and may not lead a normal life. So, most probably he might go to the timeline where he belongs and the death of JG and TY and DY going to Spain is some kind of fore-shadowing, like JG will eventual go to the timeline in which he belongs to in order to lead a normal life which his mom wanted for him.

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

Yoo Min Hyuk figured out Park Sun Young was 2050-Tae Yi just from reading Jin Gyeom's family registry

He did time traveled using an unregistered time card, so he might have thought it might be TY's (2050), at least he had some kind of background story for this one, but the roof top scene was totally out of context, like when did they reach on top of the building , like, okay the assassin might have used the time card to bring her to the top of the building but why did he wait that long to kill her?

 

1 hour ago, kittyna said:

When you have a leader-type character like that, they're either incompetent (your take) or feigning ignorance to hide something shady (my take - hence my thought that he might be the Teacher). Either way, I feel like this is going to end with Min Hyuk kicking his butt at some point - figuratively or literally

One point does raise suspicious about him, that is, he is constantly defending Oh Young, like, I know he is her boss and needs to look after her, but a simple registry check can confirm her innocence, maybe he is in on it, but it is hard to say what his motives are, maybe he had a crush on PSY, just like Oh Young has on MY :P

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5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

You seem to invested a lot in the MY-JG relationship

 

lol - You got me. It's not just for Alice, either: I just have a huge soft spot for stories about family relationships and dynamics. More than romance, at least. It's not something I can always act on in my writing (especially given the dynamics specific to, say, Seolleim in Salzburg), but it forms a big part of what I focus on when watching dramas :) 

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

it does makes sense though, since both are from 2050 and I too feel like JG will have trouble living in 2020 and may not lead a normal life. So, most probably he might go to the timeline where he belongs and the death of JG and TY and DY going to Spain is some kind of fore-shadowing, like JG will eventual go to the timeline in which he belongs to in order to lead a normal life which his mom wanted for him.

 

I'm not sure where Jin Gyeom's going to end up by the end - to be honest, I can see him being happy in either timeline, as long as he could have a healthy, loving relationship with someone there (possibly with Min Hyuk in 2050, with Tae Yi + Do Yeon + co. in 2020, etc.).

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

He did time traveled using an unregistered time card, so he might have thought it might be TY's (2050), at least he had some kind of background story for this one

 

Point. I actually had my own idea for an explanation from the start: maybe Min Hyuk and 2050-Tae Yi had brought fake IDs with them to 1992 (you know, in case of emergency), and "Park Sun Young" was Tae Yi's code name. Prior to what we see in Episode 9, Min Hyuk had no idea that Park Jin Gyeom's mother was called Park Sun Young, but once he saw that on the record (in combination with Jin Gyeom's clearly-not-someone-from-the-2020-universe abilities), it all clicked together in his mind. However, it's a common enough name that he still had to go to the cemetery to confirm his suspicions in person, which is why the reality only really hits him 100% when he sees the photographs on Sun Young's grave.

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

One point does raise suspicious about him, that is, he is constantly defending Oh Young, like, I know he is her boss and needs to look after her, but a simple registry check can confirm her innocence, maybe he is in on it, but it is hard to say what his motives are, maybe he had a crush on PSY, just like Oh Young has on MY

 

Min Hyuk and Si Young report to Cheol Am separately, so there definitely is a "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" feel to how "Alice" works. And if we were to use the argument that, as her direct superior, he has to trust Si Young...well, the same can be said for Min Hyuk - and maybe even more so, since it sounds like they were actually friends at some point (Min Hyuk calls him "Hyung", while Si Young addresses him more formally).

 

lol - Just watch this turn into a whole massive conspiracy involving both "Alice" and "Sigma" with only our main family being kept in the dark :P That's probably not the route that Alice will take - since it's rather cliché, and the writers so far have done a good job surprising us - but I won't say it's impossible ;) 

 

A bit more costume-related trivia

 

And JW's on a magazine cover!

 

Finally, given that a Chuseok postponement is quite likely (I noticed an announcement about it at the end of Episode 10), I will be posting a series of little interactives (scattergories, challenges, etc.) over this week to tide us over. Mostly, it's because we've gotten far enough along in Alice that I now feel comfortable actually playing with the characters a bit - so stay tuned ;) 

 

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Just came back to add this funny exchange between Kwak Si Yang and JW on Instagram, in response to this recent post from KSY.

 

(Rough English translation from putting both the Korean original and Japanese translation through Google)

 

KSY: [announcement about Alice] When will you laugh, Min Hyuk?

JW: I laughed :lol:

KSY: It's a foul to laugh alone. :joy:

 

Oh, dear - is Jin Gyeom turning out to be that sort of a kid? :naughty:

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So, I mentioned that I had some miscellaneous interactives planned, ready to be whipped out at a moment's notice. Well, I'm going to start us off with the one that's probably the silliest, but that's also the most directly related to Alice.

 

We now know that, for better or worse, Park Jin Gyeom seems to have the ability to temporarily stop time - he can't control when he does it, and he has yet to be able to stop it for more than a few minutes, but it's there. This is the first time we've seen anything like an actual superpower in JW's dramas, but it made me wonder: if there were some strange mash-up universe (like the Marvel universe, for instance) where ALL of JW's drama characters had superpowers, what would they be?

 

(Hey, I did say I was starting off with the silly one :P)

 

The rules here are simple: let your imagination go wild. You can draw inspiration from lists like this one or this one, comic or TV/movie franchises you know, make stuff up yourself, etc. The only rule here is that you can't repeat powers/abilities - each character must bring something different to the table ;) 

 

Basically, for this challenge, the crazier and the more outside-the-box, the better. So have fun! :) 

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12 hours ago, kittyna said:

lol - You got me. It's not just for Alice, either: I just have a huge soft spot for stories about family relationships and dynamics. More than romance, at least. It's not something I can always act on in my writing (especially given the dynamics specific to, say, Seolleim in Salzburg), but it forms a big part of what I focus on when watching dramas

I see, I assume you must had hard time watching "Bridal Mask" , since it is very little or not Family relationship, I think it is the only drama of Joo won's where family relationship is limited for first 2 or 3 episodes. :P

12 hours ago, kittyna said:

KSY: [announcement about Alice] When will you laugh, Min Hyuk?

JW: I laughed :lol:

KSY: It's a foul to laugh alone. 

It's funny that KHS is the one who is reprimanding Joo won, but in reality she the most mischievous one out of the three

3 hours ago, kittyna said:

if there were some strange mash-up universe (like the Marvel universe, for instance) where ALL of JW's drama characters had superpowers, what would they be?

Interesting and fun exercise, but I never heard of the American television series "Heroes", like I thought it was some kind of link to comic book series. Anyway here are my choices

 

Koo Ma Jun- I think Ma Jun will be more like villain with super powers, like Magneto from X-Men. But the power I will choose for him is of Shape shifting like Mystique form X-Men, like, it does makes lot of sense since he always wanted to frame Kim Ta Gu for the things he has done and always jealous of him, so I think we will use this shape shifting to create more obstacles in kim Ta Gu life and in the end he might change his attitude and become a good person like Mystique have.

 

Hwang Tae Hee-  I will go with super strength, not just because of the Job he does but there is this tendency of super heroes who has super strength will be like emotionally traumatized just like Tae-Hee and having such kind of powers will also make Baek Ja Eun happy since she is always worried about him getting hurt

 

Lee Kang-To- I think I will go Mohinder Suresh character, since Lee Knag To really doesn't fit in with super strength or able to fly, if he had those strengths we would have ended the Korean occupation in one month. So, I think we will have super power like agility, flexibility and these strengths need to be developed just like the character in the television series have developed.

 

Han Gil Ro- Super Speed, because he has mature of child just like Dash and I think this would come in handy for his spy job

 

Park Si-On-    X-ray vision and telepathy, given that he already has some sort of spatial power, I think these two powers will augment him to become an exceptional doctor.

 

Cha Yoo-Jin-  Assigning super power to this character is hard, even if he had one, he would probably use it in way which might help him excelling as a conductor. But, I think he will be happy with the "Teleportation" power, since he can use to save time which will give him more time to practice

 

Kim Tae Hyun-  Super stretching ability, since he always does operations with any scrub nurse to hand him medical tools, it might come in handy for him to pick up medical tools by himself

 

Gyun Woo-  I think I will go with "Telepathy" and "Material Manipulation" powers, I know it coincides with Si-On, but in case of Si-On I assumed that he can only read the minds of his patients, but for Gyun woo, I assume that he can read, control, manipulate. So, I sort of think telepathy of si on and Gyun Woo is different

 

Park Jin Geom- Now, we already know that he control space and time, but I would also like to add another super power, which is "Regenerative power" , like, in drama we see he was hurt multiple times but was able to heal quickly, so my guess would be he should have some kind of regenerative power in order heal that quickly.

 

Stills from Ghost

 

 

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5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

It's funny that KHS is the one who is reprimanding Joo won, but in reality she the most mischievous one out of the three

 

Kwak Si Yang's the one who said that last bit - so you can think of the kid's who's sassing off (Jin Gyeom), the dad who tries to reprimand him (Min Hyuk), and the mom who - if she were here - would join in in teasing the dad (Tae Yi) :lol:

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I see, I assume you must had hard time watching "Bridal Mask" , since it is very little or not Family relationship, I think it is the only drama of Joo won's where family relationship is limited for first 2 or 3 episodes.

 

Well, I'm big on friendship stories, too ;) Basically, the dynamic that I'm the least interested in is romance - but I'm also up for that if it's done well.

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Interesting and fun exercise, but I never heard of the American television series "Heroes", like I thought it was some kind of link to comic book series. Anyway here are my choices

 

I haven't watched Heroes before either, but I do remember that it was a thing for a while - it pre-dated the majority of the Marvel movies (although not the comic books, obviously) and I seem to remember it being praised for its diverse cast.

 

But your answers overall were really interesting to read, because some were definite surprises for me. :) 

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Koo Ma Jun- I think Ma Jun will be more like villain with super powers, like Magneto from X-Men. But the power I will choose for him is of Shape shifting like Mystique form X-Men, like, it does makes lot of sense since he always wanted to frame Kim Ta Gu for the things he has done and always jealous of him, so I think we will use this shape shifting to create more obstacles in kim Ta Gu life and in the end he might change his attitude and become a good person like Mystique have.

 

Just want to point this one out as one of my favourite responses :) It's not what I thought of at first, but I could definitely see this working for Ma Jun, now that you mention it. You might also have some advantage over me here, because I never really got into superhero stories as a genre and don't know the actual characters very well beyond their names. So I can't draw inspiration from existing characters here and find parallels to JW's drama characters, whereas you can :) 

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Cha Yoo-Jin-  Assigning super power to this character is hard, even if he had one, he would probably use it in way which might help him excelling as a conductor. But, I think he will be happy with the "Teleportation" power, since he can use to save time which will give him more time to practice

 

lol - Yep, Yoo Jin's definitely a challenge :P At least some of the other characters (e.g. Lee Kang To or Park Si On) already had natural capabilities that lend themselves well to being extended into full-blown superpowers. Yoo Jin...that's harder.

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Kim Tae Hyun-  Super stretching ability, since he always does operations with any scrub nurse to hand him medical tools, it might come in handy for him to pick up medical tools by himself

 

Definitely wasn't expecting this one :lol:

 

5 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Park Jin Geom- Now, we already know that he control space and time, but I would also like to add another super power, which is "Regenerative power" , like, in drama we see he was hurt multiple times but was able to heal quickly, so my guess would be he should have some kind of regenerative power in order heal that quickly.

 

To be honest, that's one thing I'm not loving with Alice's writing so far - not because it's unrealistic (it's sci-fi and we have literal superpowers now, so they can do whatever they want), but because it's rather cliché and comes off like rather sloppy work. So hopefully they do offer some sort of explanation for Jin Gyeom's health/well-being soon, or else it's going to get ridiculous.

 

As always, I'm come back with my answers in a separate post, but in the meantime, some miscellaneous Instagram goodies:

 

JW's Instagram update

 

And I also found some Alice behind-the-scenes pics posted by Moon Ju Won (i.e. the child actor who plays 5-year-old Jin Gyeom).

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFbHJMzDNDw/

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-tE7zglAJp/

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEvwxxGjl3f/ - Practicing for the Rubik's cube scene :) It's cute to see him gradually improving as you go from one video to the next.

 

Finally, for anyone who's interested, the child actor who played 3-year-old Jin Gyeom (i.e. the cute baby in the amusement park scene) has also been credited: Lee Jung Min. lol - he ends up breaking the "Moon baby" pattern (where JW's actually a Moon, as were the child actors who played the 5- and 12-year old versions of Jin Gyeom).

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12 minutes ago, kittyna said:

And I also found some Alice behind-the-scenes pics posted by Moon Ju Won (i.e. the child actor who plays 5-year-old Jin Gyeom).

I didn't know kid could solve cube under a minute in real life , that's pretty impressive thing for a 5 year old, I think in the first video he missed in 2 phase in solving of  the cube and I liked how calm he was even though he messed it up, I usually throw the cube away if I mess up a single step while solving cube,  But I hope he is doing this out of his own interest and not because his mom/dad wanted him to do.

17 minutes ago, kittyna said:

, because I never really got into superhero stories as a genre

In other words you are not a nerd for Marvel/DC universe :P

Now that we are in the Genre of  character with Super powers, I would also like to assign super powers to Female leads of Joo won's drama. Here it goes

 

Shin Yu Kyung-  Like Koo Ma Ju, she does also have few dark traits in her character, So, I would choose Storm from X- Men apocalypse, I know, in cartoon version and other version she from the good guys, but in reboot of X- Men, she does have an arch, she turns from bad to good in the end

 

Baek Ja-Eun-  Invisible Powers and mind controlling, like the female lead from Fantastic Four

 

Mok Dan- Phoenix powers form X- Men, because she also dies in the end and also has lot of uncontrollable energy in her

 

Kim Seo-Won- Black widow from Marvel,she really doesn't have any powers but she is not less than any other super hero in the marvel, and also they both are tenacious in nature and just like Black widow tames Hulk, I sort see Seo-Won taming Han Gil Ro

 

Cha Yeon-Seo-  Scarlet Witch from Marvel, no similarities between these two characters just their taste in men, like, not in a negative way, but they both well for guy who was almost like a robot and gradual helped them in transforming their robot like character

 

Nae-il- I am going with the female lead from Sky high movie, who can talk with animals and control nature(Layla Williams)

 

Han Yeo-JIn-  I will go with female version of Iron Man or Batman, since the list you provided also shows that superpowers can be attained through wealth also

 

Hyemyung- Mera from Aquaman, she is also a princess who falls for a commoner

 

Kim Do-Yeon- Again, I find it really hard to assign powers to this character also, but I think I will go with powers of Wonder Woman, again, no similarities, but I see her loosing JG in the end of the drama and Wonder Woman also losses her love interest in the end of the movie, and also both have strong personality and are no push overs

 
56 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Definitely wasn't expecting this one 

Well, I have given my reason for choosing this power to Kim Tae Hyun, so I also too the characters circumstances in my consideration while assigning them their powers :P

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2 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

I didn't know kid could solve cube under a minute in real life , that's pretty impressive thing for a 5 year old, I think in the first video he missed in 2 phase in solving of  the cube and I liked how calm he was even though he messed it up, I usually throw the cube away if I mess up a single step while solving cube,  But I hope he is doing this out of his own interest and not because his mom/dad wanted him to do.

 

I think he just learned for the purposes of filming that scene: if you look closely, the first practice video looks like he was just getting a feel for the cube, but in subsequent videos, he clearly works towards a particular configuration, after which he solves the rest easily. Regardless, though, I do hope he continues it as a hobby. :) 

 

2 hours ago, kireeti2 said:

Now that we are in the Genre of  character with Super powers, I would also like to assign super powers to Female leads of Joo won's drama. Here it goes

 

lol - You already thought ahead to my next step, so kudos :) I think I'll still do the guys first (haven't fully decided on the girls yet). Also, Alice proves to be a challenge, because it's still a toss-up between Kim Do Yeon and Yoon Tae Yi. ;) 

 

Some of these, I worked off the character's actual talents/strengths, while for others, I tried to think of what extra capabilities might be useful to them. Also, some might look like I gave out two, but it's actually more a case of my not being sure what to call said superpower ;) 

 

Gu Ma Jun - Power absorption

Yeah, this is probably one of the most dangerous powers one could have, and I'm actually going there ;) So, this is the ability to temporarily or permanently co-opt and replicate someone else's capabilities - which I think serves a strong parallel for what Ma Jun wants to do in his rivalry with Kim Tak Gu. It's one of those superpowers that could be extremely effective if used for good, but also extremely destructive if the person possessing it takes a dark turn, but with Ma Jun, that's kind of the point ;)

 

Hwang Tae Hui - Enhanced Speed/Agility

I just think this would be useful to have for Tae Hui's job as a detective (like @kireeti2 did for super-strength), but I think focusing on the agility side of things is more in line with Tae Hui's actual combative style. I dunno; it's just a thought.

 

Lee Kang To - Supernatural senses (specifically sight and hearing)

This is simply an extension of the incredibly sharp senses (and subsequent quick reflexes) that Kang To already has in Gaksital

 

Han Gil Ro - Shapeshifting

I think this would be really useful ability to have as an NIS agent, especially since the ability to disguise oneself is already an important skill to have. 

 

Park Si On - X-ray Vision

We already see that Si On has a more practical/physically feasible version of this, given his ability to visualize objects in 3D from multiple angles. He jokes about having X-ray vision to Cha Yoon Seo in the drama, so I think it'd be fun to imagine what he'd be like as a doctor if he actually had that power for real. 

 

Cha Yoo Jin - Hypnosis/Siren Song

For Yoo Jin, I knew I definitely wanted something sound- or voice-related - it did cross my mind for him to have supersonic hearing, but combined with his absolute perfect pitch...yeah, that'd just be torture, given all the discordant sounds in the world :P So instead, if you don't mind me being weirdly specific, I would like to see Yoo Jin with something similar to the protagonist in one of my favourite novels, Phantom by Susan Kay It's a spinoff of the classic "Phantom of the Opera" story where the main character possesses extreme musical ability, but also a preternaturally beautiful voice - so beautiful, in fact, that he could almost bewitch people into doing his bidding despite his repulsive physical deformities. If Yoo Jin had something like that - either expressed orally or through music - I think it'd be an interesting extension of the abilities we already see in the drama.

 

Kim Tae Hyun - Phasing/Teleportation 

It did cross my mind to give Tae Hyun some sort of healing/regenerative ability at first, but he wouldn't be the skilled surgeon he is if he could heal people magically. So, instead, I thought of what might work well with his role as Yong Pal; it also doubles as a reflection of his ability to think fast and improvise his way out of sticky situations.

 

Gyun Woo - Mind-reading/Telepathy

Nothing much to say here, save that I thought this would be a good match for Gyun Woo's natural wit and intelligence, and that it'd be a really useful skill to have with all the slippery intrigue that happens at court.

 

Park Jin Gyeom - Telekinesis

We already know about the time-bending, so let's not repeat ourselves :P But I did notice that the time card did, in Episode 2 of Alice, have something along these lines as well (when all the objects in Jin Gyeom's apartment start levitating after he activates it the first time). If that continues onwards, I could imagine that'd be an interesting ability to have alongside his time-bending.

 

By the way, @flutterby06, I don't know when you'll get a chance to check this forum again, but when you do, I'd love to hear your take on this :) The original set-up and rules can be found here, so feel free to take a look at it whenever :) 

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Happy Birthday to our favorite cutie... :D

 

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Joo Won turns 33 today.. :fullofhearts:

Dear Moon Jun Won, hope you keep doing your best and and touch everyone's heart.. May all of your good dreams come true.. May you achieve true happiness.. Wish you all the best. :foryou:

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On 9/28/2020 at 9:17 AM, kittyna said:

And here I am with my thoughts on Episode 10 of Alice.

 

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And, on a slightly lighter note, I love this newest dose of cast shenanigans: Kim Do Yeon's Instagram. Honestly, I just thought the group photo was posted on Lee Da In's Instagram when I saw it being credited to  "Do Yeon" - but nope. It's literally a fictional account for her character :) 

 

I plan to comment on Alice episode 10 reviews and comments by you and @kireeti2 later when my birthday celebration mode goes a bit down.. haa.. We have one week extra so I hope I will be able to catch up though a bit late.

 

But did you also notice that YTY follows KDY's IG.. ha ha..I found that detailing so cute.

 

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I believe it's possible for them to go on a trip together in future... Hopefully Jin Gyeom will be alive to see his favorite ladies bonding for real..without alcohol! :lol:

 

On 9/28/2020 at 11:09 PM, kittyna said:

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Just came back to add this funny exchange between Kwak Si Yang and JW on Instagram, in response to this recent post from KSY.

 

(Rough English translation from putting both the Korean original and Japanese translation through Google)

 

KSY: [announcement about Alice] When will you laugh, Min Hyuk?

JW: I laughed :lol:

KSY: It's a foul to laugh alone. :joy:

 

Oh, dear - is Jin Gyeom turning out to be that sort of a kid?

 

Aww... the cast are so sweet..Leaving comment at each others IG post and entertaining the viewers as well.

 

Was that Min Hyuk using Dad tone to Jin Gyeom.. :P

 

Theres also Kim Hee Sun.. She sweetly praised Joo Won in reply to his comment in her IG post on Amusment park picture.. 

 

So sweet of her!

 

it even become tabloid news : https://www.google.com/search?q=주원&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwioz869kY_sAhWY4nMBHdoDBmMQ_AUoAnoECBwQBA&biw=1366&bih=657

 

8 hours ago, kittyna said:

Finally, for anyone who's interested, the child actor who played 3-year-old Jin Gyeom (i.e. the cute baby in the amusement park scene) has also been credited: Lee Jung Min. lol - he ends up breaking the "Moon baby" pattern (where JW's actually a Moon, as were the child actors who played the 5- and 12-year old versions of Jin Gyeom).

 

The first thing when I saw this baby was "awww... he's so cute..." and the next was "Surely he'll going to change the Moons playing PJG trend apart from the new born PJG whose name we do not know... ha ha ha.. This is probably first time in a kdrama so many kids played different stages of one role!

 

8 hours ago, kittyna said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEvwxxGjl3f/ - Practicing for the Rubik's cube scene :) It's cute to see him gradually improving as you go from one video to the next.

 

WOW.. Baby Moon Ju Wonie needed a lot of practice to move rubriks cube smoothly. You did well, kid :thumbsup:

 

Also I don't think he actually learned to play Rubik'ss cube..I know some kids can do it from young age..but it looked like to me he just practice same 4-5 sequence again and again so he can do it smoothly for the scene. That's also a tough job for a kid I think.

 

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By the way, @flutterby06, I don't know when you'll get a chance to check this forum again, but when you do, I'd love to hear your take on this :) The original set-up and rules can be found here, so feel free to take a look at it whenever :) 

 

@kittyna, the game sounds fun.. @kireeti2 already jumped from JW characters to JW's female counterpart characters..woah!

 

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I will share my imaginations after a through brain storm because I'm not that imaginative in this respect.. I also do not watch a lot of super hero shows( The more I grew up the more I started leaning towards Animated shows and then kdrama also happened).. I will have to think a lot to imagine who should have what super powers. But I'll definitely share my thoughts.

 

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JW's latest IG photo..His get up, I like it.. @kittyna your probably talking about that chain hanging with mask JW wearing before.. Apparently it's a fashion among K celebrities now.. it holds the mask when one wishes to keep it down also look fashionable without it being under the chin.. watched it in Running Man..Two members there were given punishment to make this mask chain with beads.  

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6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

I believe it's possible for them to go on a trip together in future... Hopefully Jin Gyeom will be alive to see his favorite ladies bonding for real..without alcohol! :lol:

 

Hm...maybe, if Park Jin Gyeom does succeed in, you know, staying alive all the way to the end, it'll turn into a three-person trip :P Okay, that's more than a bit of wishful thinking, but it's still fun to imagine.

 

6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

The first thing when I saw this baby was "awww... he's so cute..." and the next was "Surely he'll going to change the Moons playing PJG trend apart from the new born PJG whose name we do not know... ha ha ha.. This is probably first time in a kdrama so many kids played different stages of one role!

 

Maybe. We have a total of five people playing six ages (just born, 3 years old, 5 years old, 12 years old, 17/8 years old, 27/8 years old), so...yeah, that's getting into almost movie-like scale.

 

I also have to give the producers kudos for finding kids who all actually bear a reasonable resemblance to JW and for the same features so that the actual transition from one stage to the next is convincing.

 

6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

WOW.. Baby Moon Ju Wonie needed a lot of practice to move rubriks cube smoothly. You did well, kid :thumbsup:

 

Also I don't think he actually learned to play Rubik'ss cube..I know some kids can do it from young age..but it looked like to me he just practice same 4-5 sequence again and again so he can do it smoothly for the scene. That's also a tough job for a kid I think.

 

Yep, that's exactly what happened :) Maybe not with the first practice video, but in the rest, I can definitely make out a repeated sequence of patterns. The caption on the Instagram post confirms it, too, saying that the family (his hyung and his dad, I think) came up with that sequence and he just had to memorize it. Which is doable since, every time he solves the Rubik's cube, a family member offscreen could scramble it in a specific sequence of moves so that it's always in the same configuration when it's finally passed to him, at which point he finishes the sequence and we end up with a consistent end result. Once he's got that down, it's just about committing it to muscle memory so that he can do it quickly and naturally.

 

6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

JW's latest IG photo..His get up, I like it..

 

Yeah, I really, really like this look on him, too :) 

 

6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

your probably talking about that chain hanging with mask JW wearing before.. Apparently it's a fashion among K celebrities now.. it holds the mask when one wishes to keep it down also look fashionable without it being under the chin.. watched it in Running Man..Two members there were given punishment to make this mask chain with beads.

 

I see. I figured it would be used to hang the mask around his neck if he ever had to take it off, but it's just funny because no-one thought to do that where I live - people just pull it straight down to their chin, or take off one ear strap. Still, given that wearing masks has been a thing in East Asia since well before COVID-19, trust them to come up with creative solutions like this ;) 

 

6 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

@kireeti2 already jumped from JW characters to JW's female counterpart characters..woah!

I will share my imaginations after a through brain storm because I'm not that imaginative in this respect.. I also do not watch a lot of super hero shows( The more I grew up the more I started leaning towards Animated shows and then kdrama also happened).. I will have to think a lot to imagine who should have what super powers. But I'll definitely share my thoughts.

 

Yeah - I think I tapped into something that @kireeti2's really good at. Or, at least, he's better than the rest of us :P 

 

For me, I picked up a smattering about superpowers here and there - more often in relation to fantasy than to superhero or sci-fi stories, though. So...think things like the Lord of the Rings series, for example ;) 

 

But anyway, just thought I'd finish up my part and get on with the girls in this unofficial second round! Again, @flutterby06, feel free to share your ideas whenever you want - just include a reminder that you're responding to the superpowers prompt, and I'll remember :) 

 

(Also, just for the sake of argument, I'm throwing in 2020 Yoon Tae Yi as well - since regardless of who, if anyone, Jin Gyeom ends up with, I do have a good idea for her that I want to share.)

 

Shin Yu Kyung - Phoenix powers/Regeneration

I think this is a good match for Yu Kyung's general resilience and determination. Considering all the physical and emotional abuse she puts up with throughout the course of the drama, it seems like something she'd have.

 

Baek Ja Eun - Art Generation

This is getting a bit obscure (hence the link above), but the gist is the ability for anything Ja Eun draws to actually become real. So, similar to what you see in W: Two Worlds, if anyone has seen that drama, except that the power is manifest in a person rather than a tool or object.

 

Oh Mok Dan - Invisibility

This is based on the fact that as a member of the resistance movement, Mok Dan is way more effective as a spy/agent than as a fighter - except that she has a tendency to get caught in the act. So, I think this would be a really useful skill for her to have in the grand scheme of things, as it would allow her to reach her full potential :) 

 

Kim Seo Won - Memory Manipulation

This is an extension from Kim Seo Won's innate ability to lie convincingly, even under pressure: a skill that is highly sought after in the NIS and one that marks a "natural spy". What if, in addition to being able to lie, she is able to actually reach into someone's memory and alter it, such that the lie she tells ends up becoming the truth in that person's mind? Yes, I know it's creepy - so let's hope she only uses it for good ;) 

 

Cha Yoon Seo - Healing Touch

There are a number of variations on healing abilities (see below for another one), but I think that for Cha Yoon Seo, the most basic form is the best fit for her. I think this would be more about physical healing rather than emotional (again, see below), and it would augment her abilities as a doctor.

 

Seol Nae Il - Musical Healing

This is based as much on Nae Il's personality as it is on her talents: she's the perfect mascot/atmosphere maker in her circle of friends with her bubbly and caring nature, and we can see that even though she can't heal people physically in the drama, she is able to heal them mentally or emotionally. :) So I'd like to see an extension of that, while still within the confines of her musical skills.

 

Han Yeo Jin - Ice powers

Yes, I'm drawing inspiration from Frozen - problem? :P But my basis here is that I want Yeo Jin to have something that closely fits her regal, almost intimidating, air: something that can potentially be very dangerous if used as a weapon, but that is predominantly reserved for self-defence. So, I knew from the start that I'd want her to have power over one of the key elements (fire, water, earth, air, etc.), and out of all of those, I thought ice fit her darker side best: cool, calculating, and more than a bit Machiavellian.

 

Hye Myung - Light powers

Again, I thought of something elemental here, and the mental image I actually wound up with is Princess Eilonwy from The Chronicles of Prydain (a book series I actually hadn't read in its entirety, but was familiar with via the Disney film The Black Cauldron). In that series, Eilonwy had a magical golden bauble that could emit light on its own, and I think that having a magical light source like that (either as an object or as something generated from within herself) would be really useful for Hye Myung on her escapades. It'd also serve as a material reflection of her desire to shed light on (pun intended) what was really going on in the palace.

 

Kim Do Yeon - Truth inducement

In short: the ability to make people unconsciously tell her the truth of events to the best of their knowledge. I think that this is a close fit with her aspirations to become an investigative journalist (I say "investigative" because exposing corruption seems to a huge thing in her stories), as well as being in line with her personality. If she did have this ability, I imagine she'd use it a ton to help Jin Gyeom along with his cases - and she'd probably use it on him a lot as well :P 

 

Yoon Tae Yi (2020) - Force field generation

If nothing else, Tae Yi's ability would have to involve science. Personally, if I could really just go nuts with this, I'd want her to have something similar to what you see from Honey Lemon in Big Hero 6 (not a superpower per se, but a quick enough brain that she could combine elements on the spot to manufacture a whole host of different chemical weapons). However, Tae Yi's a physicist rather than a chemist, so I should adjust to think along those lines. And I figured, well, if Park Jin Gyeom could manipulate time, what if Yoon Tae Yi could manipulate space and use it to contain or shield whatever/whoever she wants to protect? And, well, if she could do that, we all know what she'd use it for, don't we? ;) 

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40 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Han Yeo Jin - Ice powers

This one is brilliant, fits with her character and situation.:thumbsup:

5 hours ago, flutterby06 said:

But did you also notice that YTY follows KDY's IG.. ha ha..I found that detailing so cute.

I didn't even notice it was an Instagram post, but what's funny is that DY has allowed YTY to follow her, because I am pretty sure DY would keep her account private and will allow followers only if she knows them :joy:

44 minutes ago, kittyna said:

Or, at least, he's better than the rest of us :P 

What you mean better? Some of my choices were terrible when I compare with yours :P. I will agree that I am more enthusiastic when it comes to super humans genre :D

 

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