[Drama 2010] Naughty Kiss / Playful Kiss 장난스런 키스

[Guest meteorflower09]

@LolliDoAlittle

Yoon Si Yoon isn't a boybander (he isn't near CNblue at all) indeed he has done some advertising work with CNblue and Jung So Min lately but he YSY is an actor(a pretty unknown actor until Baker King)

about Baker King it might be true that this is a good drama but it really has an unknown cast until now... and they were lucky with Bad Guy... Bad Guy was interrupted because of the World Cup and SBS was the only television with World cup airing rights....

Bad Guy was a pretty good show -and before the World Cup their viewership was increasing ... they had around 15%+... but in the break Baked King gained points and popularity so- Bad Guy went down the drain under 10%

Road nr 1 is a war themed drama... and even if it was good for something nobody looked at it - not even the foreign netizens-like Bad Guy is

sorry for cutting your post

thank you for your deep analysis regarding the 3 Kdrama, agree the timing of this drama is not so good

right from the start, we all know that Playful Kiss will meet a a very stiff competition

I just pray that Playful Kiss will do well inspite all this odds,

and finally KHJ can show us his improved acting skill to shut up his antis for good

so far basing from the BTS, this is going to be a good drama

credits to Tita Lina of Hyunnies Pexers

[iamia]

@Simina - *please highlight* actually, regarding the cast of baker king being unknown, especially yoon siyoon, i respectfully disagree. yoon siyoon was one of the leads in a very successful sitcom (high kick through the roof), a show known for launching new actors/actresses to stardom: jung ilwoo and kim bum from the first season (unstoppable high kick), and shin sekyung and hwang jungeum from yoon siyoon's season. as proof to the show's popularity, the last two are all over cfs and whatnot after high kick, and so as the lead actor of the said sitcom, i definitely won't label ysy as an "unknown". outside of korea, he may not be popular, but in korea, he is definitely not unheard of. of course, the strong plot and convincing acting in baker king made the show's ratings blow up, but the first week's ratings were actually pretty good for a starting drama, so it was definitely anticipated by the viewers.

while it is true that mischievous kiss is definitely up for tough competition, with lee seunggi aka "40% ratings guy" and baker king hitting the 40+% spot in ratings the last few episodes, i still believe mk can do well, especially overseas. it has the disadvantage of starting later than the dramas it's competing against (establishing its fanbase/viewership/audience before mk starts), so we may expect low ratings at the start, but i believe, with a good script and a great director, this could go very well on the path "you're beautiful" has gone through: low ratings in korea because of very tough competition, but very popular in other countries.

regarding hyunjoong's acting, i'm a fan first and foremost, but i'm not one to deny weaknesses of my biases. i admit that hjl didn't show us the "best acting performance ever" in bof, nor did he show excellent acting chops, but i trust that he will improve and has probably improved by then. i actually think hjl was not really prepared for his big shift towards acting at that time, since all circumstances and news reports suggest just that (prior to bf, hjl was the ss501 member who has not remotely expressed interest in acting. iirc, it was baby and mal who wanted to act; also, hjl only found out he was going to act in bof through the news, after the decision was done by dsp and group 8 so i believe he was put in a position he did not intend to be in initially). add that to his natural awkwardness, and i can see how people can say he looked awkward in bof. his situation before taking this drama is very different to that pre-bof, what with a new company banking on him as an actor, so i'm pretty hopeful and optimistic that he'll do well. of course, i still have some worries about his acting (the curse of being a worrywart especially towards biases) and how the drama will be received, but i'm staying optimistic. i trust hjl's determination to be better, so i believe he will be better.

as for somin and taesung, i believe they'll do great. somin, especially, has potential to be big, imo. for a newcomer, she's quite natural on screen (as can be seen in "bad guy", regardless of how one feels for the character she played). i just hope the script will not portray kotoko to be as annoyingly "clueless" as that in the taiwanese version(i know kotoko is supposed to be "dumb" but the taiwanese version went over the top with that at times). taesung, on the other hand, has the role down to pat judging from the little clips we saw. the hair, the stance/slouch is sooo manga-ish, it made me smile.

anyway, mischievous kiss fighting!!!

[LolliDoAlittle]

@Simina

while it is true that mischievous kiss is definitely up for tough competition, with lee seunggi aka "40% ratings guy" and baker king hitting the 40+% spot in ratings the last few episodes, i still believe mk can do well, especially overseas. it has the disadvantage of starting later than the dramas it's competing against (establishing its fanbase/viewership/audience before mk starts), so we may expect low ratings at the start, but i believe, with a good script and a great director, this could go very well on the path "you're beautiful" has gone through: low ratings in korea because of very tough competition, but very popular in other countries.

regarding hyunjoong's acting, i'm a fan first and foremost, but i'm not one to deny weaknesses of my biases. i admit that hjl didn't show us the "best acting performance ever" in bof, nor did he show excellent acting chops, but i trust that he will improve and has probably improved by then. i actually think hjl was not really prepared for his big shift towards acting at that time, since all circumstances and news reports suggest just that (prior to bf, hjl was the ss501 member who has not remotely expressed interest in acting. iirc, it was baby and mal who wanted to act; also, hjl only found out he was going to act in bof through the news, after the decision was done by dsp and group 8 so i believe he was put in a position he did not intend to be in initially). add that to his natural awkwardness, and i can see how people can say he looked awkward in bof. his situation before taking this drama is very different to that pre-bof, what with a new company banking on him as an actor, so i'm pretty hopeful and optimistic that he'll do well. of course, i still have some worries about his acting (the curse of being a worrywart especially towards biases) and how the drama will be received, but i'm staying optimistic. i trust hjl's determination to be better, so i believe he will be better.

as for somin and taesung, i believe they'll do great. somin, especially, has potential to be big, imo. for a newcomer, she's quite natural on screen (as can be seen in "bad guy", regardless of how one feels for the character she played). i just hope the script will not portray kotoko to be as annoyingly "clueless" as that in the taiwanese version(i know kotoko is supposed to be "dumb" but the taiwanese version went over the top with that at times). taesung, on the other hand, has the role down to pat judging from the little clips we saw. the hair, the stance/slouch is sooo manga-ish, it made me smile.

anyway, mischievous kiss fighting!!!

MK is up against two dramas that not only have a good cast, but the writers are very good, ex: Hong Sisters. I won't dive into them much because that conversation and praise belongs in a another thread.

BK is a drama that appeals to all ages and Gumiho and PK only appeals to a certain age group [which was another point the video made], but KHJ and his popularity with the ladies from all age groups, it's very possible that it might do well.

We can't forget that ratings only tell was so little. It's just a number. It doesn't tell you how good a drama is. From my drama viewing experience, the dramas with the good writers and cast sometimes score lower.

I think that as a fan, the part that really bothers me is the fact that they're putting the burden on KHJ. Granted, he's the most popular guy in Korea and almost all of Asia. He is known as the CF king and will probably be forever known as JiHo sunbae or Korea's Sunbae. If the drama fails, it will be his fault [is the prediction] due to the fact that he is the leading man. But all these articles and blogs fail to state, like SeungGi said, this is a team work; a collaborative effort.

I do agree that HJ's determination will be better. He isn't the type of person to do something because he's told; he has to want to do it and I think that is the difference now, HE WANTS to DO IT.

All I can say is, I'm going to keep an open mind about this drama. But seeing the interviews and vids, it seems as if leader has improved a lot, but we won't know until the end of MK. Plus, he's got so many great sunbaes coaching him. KHJ and cast, FIGHTING!

[Guest mijoong]

wowww what a 'smart' discussion.. me like.. ^^

anyway i agree with LolliDoAlittle, iamia, Simina.. your various points complete each other.. btw just want to add some...

but i believe, with a good script and a great director, this could go very well on the path "you're beautiful" has gone through: low ratings in korea because of very tough competition, but very popular in other countries.

Yes if the worst scneario happened, it would be MK destiny will be like YAB.. But you forget some very important point. For us viewer, rating is doesn't matter. Popular in overseas is surely so good point. But you must remember, have good ratings is very important. Rating determines CFs contract, can boost 'artis status', mass popularity, investment, sponsor, their next project possibility, their next project value contract, etc. You understand how artist depend on their CFs, and have another level of status because CFs, and how their artist status is determined by how many CFs they have, which is for artist 'status' is important to keep survive in this entertainment industry. Ratings will surely give all that to you. I want MK cast all become more popular and got many Cfs after this.

We can't forget that ratings only tell was so little. It's just a number. It doesn't tell you how good a drama is.

Its true, but reality check, good ratings determined so many things in an actor/actrees career. Say JSM will be so successful with MK high ratings, her status will be a great just like YEH when she succeed with Goong. And with the success of MK as her basic, she could have what many possibility promising project just like YEH after MK if the drama do and recognized have done well and popular. Same goes to hyun joong, hyunjoong really popular in korea and overseas area now, but his 'popularity status is not safe yet'. His popularity status still not like Bae Young Joong or others great artist who if gone MIA and not active for along time, still will be reminded forever by non fans. Hyun joong has to hit another 'save' level popularity to make assure his hallyu status, and CFs is one of the factors to determine that. And sadly, one of CFs proposal factor is rating.

So yes rating is not important, for us, but reality check, for them, the actors and actrees, drama with a good rating is so important, because it determine their another and next possibility project/job. Rating is so important for drama production and tv station too, because it determine sponsor slot when airing time. From there production team and tv station got their money.

If you a a fan of an artist, you will have this worry about this ne? Because you want your fav do really well all around and aspect, so can boost his/her career. Rating can open many wonderful gates to an artist career.

MK is up against two dramas that not only have a good cast, but the writers are very good, ex: Hong Sisters. I won't dive into them much because that conversation and praise belongs in a another thread.

BK is a drama that appeals to all ages and Gumiho and PK only appeals to a certain age group [which was another point the video made], but KHJ and his popularity with the ladies from all age groups, it's very possible that it might do well.

its true.. just like what 3 of you said already... each of the drama has their advantage.. Three of them have PRETTY face.. Three of them have promising story (BK has proved that, Gumiho with Hong siter that has known well as always write great story, and PK with manga story that we know have this clasic yet intersting story too, and have his own fanbase).. From the story MK is not lose to others...

PK has the disadvantage of starting later than the dramas it's competing against (establishing its fanbase/viewership/audience before mk start), and PK has disadvantage because it is successor of Road Number 1 that has not have good rating and viewers too..From these 2 points PK is the weakest.. PK and Gumiho has same disadvantage as a drama only appeals to a certain age group and not an all ages drama like BK.

PK has this overseas popularity guarantee, that another 2 dont have [so far]. Having overseas popularity guarantee is good, because its business, having overseas popularity means more money/profit through many ways (drama license, various DVD released, overseas promotion event, a remark as wellknown overseas drama production, hallyu sattus for an artist) to come to production and artist because possibility overseas job. But for actors, there are things and opportunity you can get with just have high ratings drama ONLY, and that is another important point on their carier that every single artist and their fans want them to have that opportunity.

Btw talk about overseas guarantee popularity, i think that is one of the factor why they choose KHJ as the main lead, because KHJ really has this massive charm overseas popularity, so overseas viewer, when they heard KHJ's name in new drama plus the factor of a popular manga adaptation drama, automatically it will attract overseas proposal to broadcast it, because his massive popularity. His massive popularity is a charm to attract local and overseas investor. Somehow i thought, from a producer view, PK team production is not that worried about PK success in korea. Yes its important too for PK production and they do try seriously to achieved success in local area, but somehow i feel PK main aim is really more towards overseas market. If put in words it more like: main aim is overseas, local success is a bonus. Eventhough maybe they will be consider 'failed' in local due to ratings, but its 100% guarantee they will keep success in overseas. And for production, the money and profit they will get is the most important point, and usually korean drama get that because overseas license and so many other overseas ways to gain profits. Investor especially overseas investor just attracted to invest usually because the promising/profitable cast that they think can attract more 'profit' to them. Eventhough, there are things that you will get with high ratings only, but that won't affect producer, but more affected the artist/cast like i said above. Sadly, this is the disadvantage for artist side, because as i said ratings is so important for artist more than to production team. Because 'high rating' label which is attached to an artist can 'shut up' and hit many things in in entertainment industry.

regarding hyunjoong's acting,

I will not talk much about my opinion.. Simple and short: i believe and can see he has and always improve alot.. ^^

What i want to tell is what i know from korean view about hyun joong's acting. I dont care about how international drama fandom view his acting, there will be always pro and contra due to many factors (pure didnt like his way of acting or really didnt like because they are actually his 'antis'), for me korean viewer opinion is the most important, because korean viewer is the one who determined ratings not international drama fans. I stalked korean sites and opinion when BOF was airing. Based on BOF experienced, yes at very first few episodes of BOF, Hyun joong got many critics from korean viewer, and i can understand that because yes for some viewer he still have this 'timid' and awkward acting at the very first BOF episodes. But fact said, how then gradually he gained many viewers attention with his Yoon Ji hoo's role. I really mean it VIEWER, not fans. General korean viewer paid attention to Yoon Ji hoo, falling to Yoon Ji hoo, and of course he wouldnt get that, if he was not considered success portrayed Yoon Ji Hoo, right? Hence logically, he wont considered success if its not because his 'acting' that magically trap viewers in his role, right? He got the viewers not because of nothing! With his success, resulted he gained nickname as National Sunbae. And why i said korean viewer? Because at that time, ratings said all. Its a fact based on ratings and survey in korea, one of the biggest factor BOF high ratings in 2nd session was because YoonJihoo's story in BOF. Facts said how all Yoon Ji hoo's scenes was the top 3 highest scenes in BOF, and almost dominate high rating scenes, hence resulted viewer actually want Jihoo-Jandi ending. There is this said about people tuned in when it comes to his scene. And rating is not determined by fans (fans really cant control rating) but by general viewer. So with this, it confirmed he was gradually collected support from viewer because his role and his acting. Korean did like his role and his acting in the end... Thats the fact happened at BOF times.

[Most of this is speculation by the reporter. The show can go either way, but he seemed to put the empathasis on KHJ's ability to act. Granted, he is the lead and his acting will play a heavy role on if the show it will attract viewers, but he's just one man. There have been so many dramas, even recently no names, where the music came on at the wrong time and the script was terrible, but the acting was good, but viewers stopped watching it because good acting just wasn't good enough. Viewers expect a lot not only out of actors, but the crew as a whole. If the music comes on at the wrong time, the writing is bad, the camera man is terrible etc, regardless they will stop watching.

So what I'm trying to say is, this constant empathasis on KHJ's ability to and the success of the drama seems a little unfair. I'm not concerned about KHJ's ability to act, but I'm more worried about the writer of this drama.]

@czakhareina the same pressure is put on Lee Seung Ki's shoulder but at the press con he told "ppl this is a TEAM WORK so is not only me"

the same it goes with KHJ... is not only him...as in BOF was.. he had some awesome team members...and even the script was gone astray they kept doing a wonderful job(even though personally after ep 10 I was paying attention only at KHJ's scenes)

What i want to say, yes it make me sad, actually how is MK publicity goes to the 'burden way'. But as people said, bad publicity is publicity, so yah... Just like LolliDoAlittle "But all these articles and blogs fail to state, like SeungGi said, this is a team work; a collaborative effort." *sigh* They emphasized this fully hyun joong's responsibility only, aiguu...as you know media like to exagerate many things.. but hey that is what media said... media opinion... not what GENERAL VIEWER said... Based on the fact general viewer's support on BOF last time, i believe viewer dont think much about his acting as one of the factor to determine this success of drama, he got the approve already by korean viewer so far when he portrayed Yoon jihoo, so i believe if that was the case and hopefully same situation will happen too now, with another advantage point is his improvement in acting.. ^^

and the rest of the team-only talented actors and actresses ... we get good news almost every day... so let's hope for the best ratings for Playful kiss team, but I wonder if the ahjummas that are looking now at Baker King will let their kids to switch the channel to Playful Kiss or Gumiho... (yes you will tell that the same ahjumas love to bits Lee Seung Ki and Kim Hyun Joong... but in the same time they fell in love with Yoon Si Yoon(believe me he IS PRETTY too)

I remember i have read some survey in korean sites about how korean watching dramas, and the result is majority younger viewer prefer to watch drama online through internet and watch through download... You know, internet is widely used in korea. This is why popular teens drama, YAB, have poor rating but become the most downloaded dramas last year. Kkk so actually high rating of BOF is due to many ahjumma watch from tv... ^^ So yes, who control those remote and ratings is ahjummas and older generation. And for this Hyun joong and Seung Ki has same advantage, they are noona and ahjumma killer. Yes i know Yoon si yoon is pretty too, if you looking for a drama with 'pretty' cast three of them have 'pretty' cast, but KHJ and LSG have 'established' their 'pretty' charm that has trapped many viewers (Yoon si yoon has not have this). So i hope many ahjumma will stay tuned for them, especially hyun joong hehehe.. ^^

btw Simina i really like your comment, it really speaks what in my mind already.. ^^ you are already speaks well about that, saves me time alot to write same things.. ^^ hope can see you around more.. ^^

LolliDoAlittle thx for the summary girl, really thank you.. i believe he will do his best, hwaiting!!

iamia thx for drop comment too.. ^^ i have same worry and positive view like you too...

hahahha and same with you guys, tae sung and his anyongbada friends always make me laugh when they appear in scenes.... LOL at their 'combo pose' style.... every cast in this drama is really resembles the manga.. me like ^^

[Guest kromy]

Well I usually don't watch dramas because they are too long to watch it online but I've watch 2 dramas and I like them I open this page although I don't like hyunjoong at all, and I like this kind of dramas so I'm giving a try =)

looking forward for the first episode

[Guest mijoong]

ok more color to this thread ^^

YTN interview caps from kissbar..

credit: kissbar ^^

i really really like these 3 chemistry.. look at their pose ^^ oh ha ni has this 'obsession' expression to seung jo... seung jo has this cool and bored vibe around him... and jon gu has this pure funny cheerful character that can make you laugh whenever see him.. ^^

btw ode has translated the interview part of the video.. just the interview part only.. ^^

Translation of 100810 YTNstar interview part by ode

Hello all. This is Kim HyunJoong who will be acting as Baek Seung-jo in Playful Kiss.

Ne, for a friend like Baek Seung-jo, he is one with has an IQ exceeding 200; he’s No.1 in sports, No.1 in culinery, No.1 in academics… Whatever it may be, he’s a multi-talented friend. But he’s easily annoyed to anything at all, a little selfish annoyable guy who doesn’t care for anyone else other than himself. Yet still, at a corner in his heart, he has this soft and delicate side to him. Yeah, he’s a character like that.

Hi, Jung So min here. I will be playing Oh Hani in the drama. She’s a character who, despite not able to do anything well at all, has this perseverance to push forward in any thing. She’s cute and lovable.

Hi, I’m Lee Taesung who plays Bong Jungu in the drama, nice to meet you. In the drama, I like Hani whole-heartedly…and is a comical character who is very manly and is full of drive.

HJ: In my previous drama I already wore uniform. To think that I’ll be wearing uniform again in just mere 2 years, so it seems like those refreshed memories are flashing past by again, in the previous drama it was like that, and now in this too. Be it in acting, or details, I will show and do better than the previous drama.

HJ: To the audiences who will be tuning in to “Playful Kiss”, in a shooting environment like this, I will work hard with our wonderful seniors and actors, so please show much love to “Playful Kiss”. Hopefully you would tune in on Wed-Thurs. Channel Lock-in!

if you want to read the complete YTN star postcript video, you can go HERE.. ytn usully post their postcript of their video news.. the contain is same with video... so if you cant catch their words, heh maybe read is the best solution ^^

[Guest Simina]

Jung So Min role is portraying the every fangirl existing on this Earth ... usually this type of universal char is very well received even in literature ( in my country the best novelist ever is a man who described his childhood... but he done it so well in 19th century that his main char is the universal naughty child even now: he described adventures like:swiming without mom knowing, or stealing from home, or stealing and selling the clock of the village -a hoopoe, going to school in another city, etc) or think about Tom Sawyer another archetypical char

and the universal type is he key of the success of Baker King-this is the story of every Korean hard worker ever

so this time the stiff competition is between 3 universal types: the hard worker(Baker King), the sexy and popular woman- the FOX- aka Gu MiHO and the most obsessed ever fangirls in Playful kiss- if I'm no mistaken here are 3 girls chasing after Seung Jo : our main lady, 2 bad girls and of course the crowd

why did I said fangirl and universal type? let's see:

Seung Jo is handsome?-Hell Yessssssssss

Seung Jo is smartest guy in his school??-with 200 IQ?of course-c'mon how many of you didn't watched from a distance the smartas* of the class?I know I did...(question nr 2; how many of you were involved with the guy?... at least for a while...?how many of you are still married with the same guy-yeah the one described above)

Seung Jo is good at sports?YES again - anywhere on this Globe the best in the highschool has at least half of the girls droolling at his sight-no matter if his face is handsome or not- if pretty face: is just a bonus...just to drool more-but for me good at sports in high school sound a lil bot more like AL BUNDY

Seung Jo is a bad boy at the start: handsome,smart and bad : this a no-no for every girl - and each one of us are sweept off our feet when we meet such a guy-I know coz I married one

Seung Jo can cook?c'mon this one of the main reasons I married my husband(after handsome,smart and bad)

Has Kim Hyung Joong a big fanbase?... can you not fangirl about him?

Seung Jo is Kim Hyun Joong? OHH YEEEEEEEAAHH

how come our heroine is THE UNIVERSAL FANGIRL EVER

1.when the HERO is all things above your damn right HaNi is a fangirl and when you live in the same house its obvious that the things will become personal-who wants to live in the same house with her idol raise a hand(now KHJ but may vary from case to case) >

2.when he is mean to her-she still likes him - how many of us we've seen our idols doing bad or mean things and we forgiven him/her-Madonna is an example-she sliped not only once or twice... Kwon Sang-woo’s brazen handling of his hit-and-run last month is a typical case in point. He rammed into two cars, ran away, kept mum for two days and denied allegations of drunk driving, drawing public outcry- and still how many of you would have a onenightstand with him in a nanosecond?

3.she is persistent... usually when we like a guy/a girl when we see that the things don't work at all we give up and look for love in other places ... nop she doesn't... she is worse than most obsessed fangirl ever... she is trying hard every day.... might might work(nop it doesn't work... because he is swept away by other things like her nice personality... he is very annoyed by her persistence)

3' it doesn't matter that we can't touch our star(that's why is called a star) we will keep liking him years later without even noticing -how many of you still like Clark Gable or Fred Astaire?or how many of you still like the guy you liked in he 6th grade?-at me was Keanu Reeves and now I don't even remember which of his movies I saw first (the timeframe is Dracula-1992)

4 in manga we have some pictures moments...c'mon this is basic in fangirling

I'm curious how will describe the scriptwriters HaNi's fangirling... I'm pretty sure that a fangirl can do more nowadays than in the past... so we could have here an adaptation to these days( in 1991 the internet wasn't invented yet

@iamia darling -highlight- YSY and KHJ ramblings-

I understand what are you saying but an average of 20% of a 126 eps sitcom is pretty good and from your point of view it might be comparable with 40% viewership that Lee Seung Ki and Kim Hyun Joong achieved through their dramas... but a drama like Bad Guy launched Jung So Min to lead lady... so after me its the talent an actor can show... popularity is not equal to talent...

but with all your arguments I still believe in my affirmation that YSY wasn't popular until now

so until his Baker King to me Yoon Si Yoon didn't had so much popularity even in Korea and in HKTR I could say he wasn't the leading man... and you are right on soompi he has like 3 pages and latest news about Baker King-remeber I didn't contest his talents... just his popularity BEFORE BK- my point of view is based not only on my oppinion -hancinema helped a lil

iamia again about KHJ's acting I think you are a bit too harsh and after my knowledge KHJ was interested in acting.. see We Got Married...and he wasn't the only one in BOF who read it on papers that he will act in BOF- so I won't go that far to supose that he didn't wanted to... and I didn't felt him like awkward in BOF... for me his char was total love...and he worked hard for that role.BTW Jang Geun Suk wanted Ji Hoo sunbae role but KHJ already signed... and truly I can't dig too much his singing but I loved his acting-however this might be because he looks ridiculously good and I noticed him for the first time in BOF even though I knew him before from SS501-the same I feel about Yamapi-total love for his acting but I can't find any of his(or NEWS) songs that I would really love

btw Kim Hyun Joong is very good friend with Bae Yong Joon

btw iamia how many kdramas have you seen?I don't think you are curious but I can pm you my list

iamia as we know popularity isn't equal with high ratings... 2 very good examples are Personal taste starring Lee Min Ho, Son Ye Jin and Kim Ji Suk(Chuno) all 3 VERY popular in Korea but their average rating was 13.3%,another one is Oh My Lady with Choi Si Won(Super Junior) who's talent as an actor isn't denied but his ratings were around 10%-both dramas were very well received by foreign netizens again- thing that you can't say about Baker King... another good example is "Worlds Within"-a flop in Korea with Hyun Bin and Song Hye Kyo-both they were before in a high ratings drama with over 40%-Hyun Bin had even 50%)-with this subject I think I can continue 3 or 4 pages without repeating myself

another thing about ratings in Korea versus foreign countries IRIS is a flop in Japan but You're beautiful(Hong Sisters again)is doing very well in Japan: they are first in the timeslot against a mystery Jdrama (source hancinema). "You're beautiful" in Korea was in the same time and the same timeslot as IRIS and they had like 12% ratings

@LolliDoAlittle and @mijoong ratings are important because "Tamra the island"-MBC as an example was cut from 21 eps to 16 eps and was visible that the ending was done in a hurry-belive me Tamra except first eps ...is total love and a very entertaining drama

another thing about Korea : ppl go for singing just because is the easy way to get to the acting -I'm not implying that this is KHJ's case but Jang Geun Suk - a very talented actor said that even he was asked to become a singer he won't do it(and the motives are obvious: the singers have a shorter career and aren't payed as good as the actors are payed)

I hope too that this time Ha Ni won't be that dim as Jdrama version of Kotoko was... but c'mon this char was the basis for half of the shojo manga genre...so is like a quarter of the kdrama heroines-I hope again that the only thing that she will be stupid will be the school learning - as we know there are many ppl out there that do very well in life without learning too much in school-or a better example in my math college I had coleagues that were below average in high school... but excelent in college-just because they were doing the thing they liked the most:math(how many of you can tell that you liked high school math?) -and again HaNi's face was transformed from spoiled heroine in BG to silly so I bet that my hopes have a very small basis

@mijoong I love your arguments (I love an argumented point of view)

[Guest sveta21]

I guess they won't do post high school...

[the girl who!]

omona ... huh??? o_O

they're so fast xD

source : Daum

[Guest mijoong]

I AM PINK NOW!!!

i want to talk more and reply some peeps comment here.. but i cant because i am stunning now.. transform to cupid angel.. want to push them to kiss sooooon soon soon like SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN.. why still just there..??????!!!!! *frustrating fangirl* LOL LOL

i will back later.. after i can function well.. ^^ *staring to my lovely desktop again and again and again*

why they are the one who is going to kiss but i am the one who going crazy because want to see them kissing ^^ LOL LOL

[Guest vic8]

Playful Kiss reveals a kissing still

by sayykimchi on August 10, 2010 at 9:04 pm

With the upcoming drama MBC Playful Kiss scheduled to air in less than a month, another still has been released.

On the 11th, Playful Kiss revealed a striking still of a kiss scene between Baek Seung Jo (Kim Hyun Joong’s drama role) and Oh Hani (Jung So Min). The filming for this still took place during the past three days at a studio located in Seoul. Kim Hyun Joong, Jung So Min and the staff spent a reasonable amount of time scrutinizing every little detail for the kissing still, such as the placement of Kim Hyun Joong and Jung So Min’s fingers and arms.

Meanwhile, the kissing still was taken as if the actor and actress are about to delve in for a sweet kiss. The witnessing staff had an enjoyable time shooting for this still as they tried urging the two to lean in towards each other.

Jung So Min expressed:

“I still can’t call Hyun Joong without adding the word sunbae after his name. I’m diligently practicing and going over the script, so I definitely feel like I’m starting to become more like the character, Oh Hani. When it comes to filming the kiss scene, I’ll be portraying Oh Hani’s true feelings towards Seung Jo.”

The drama will air on September 1st, replacing Road No.1.

credit: allkpop - http://www.allkpop.com/2010/08/playful-kiss-reveals-a-kissing-still

[Guest annika_faith]

OMO! i'm so loving the pictures, can't help wish i was the in place of jungmin

[Guest blackjackVip]

waaaaaaaah!

that girl is so lucky to be kissing Hyun Joong in this drama! omona!

btw, in that picture i can imagine them saying something like:

So Min: YAY! i'm finally kissing Hyun Joong oppa!

Hyun Joong: *strike a pose* "mmm...."

[Guest mijoo-pearl]

wow, Jung So Min is so cute and Hyun Joong is handsome in this photo.

I can't wait for 9.1

[lilliefrost]

This new photo has totally won me over. There IS chemistry! And I love how she's pulling on his collar.

[LolliDoAlittle]

Simina - I wasn't saying that ratings weren't important at all; they are important, but it's just a number. Indeed it can make a huge impact, like cutting episodes. Numbers don't tell you how good the cast is or the writing is. In my view, people should give dramas a chance regardless of who is acting in it or how lame the plot may sound because like the saying goes "Seeing is believing."

It's funny how you brought up PT bc I think you maybe knew what drama I was hinting at. That whole show was a total flop minus the cast. It was a total waste of good actors time.

Which brings me to my biggest worry, the writer of the Playful Kiss [dundundun]. All I can say is, do some research on the dramas that she has written. The end. This year was filled with highly anticipated dramas like the Personal Taste who many viewers believed that there was potential, and look at what happened. Actors can act as good as they want, but if the writing sucks and the PDnim sucks [actually the PDnim for Playful Kiss is good/ noted works The Return of Illjmae & Goong], well you all probably have witnessed what happens.

the girl who - thanks for the photo! Holy shiza! I wish that I was SoMin right now. LUCKY CHIC! Aaahhh... hotness just radiates off of KHJ. [falls over] I want more PICS!

"General korean viewer paid attention to Yoon Ji hoo, falling to Yoon Ji hoo, and of course he wouldnt get that, if he was not considered success portrayed Yoon Ji Hoo, right? Hence logically, he wont considered success if its not because his 'acting' that magically trap viewers in his role, right? He got the viewers not because of nothing! With his success, resulted he gained nickname as National Sunbae." mijoong I couldn't agree with you more. Of all the BoF characters, KHJ still continues to be called not only YoonJiHo, but sunbae and as mijoong stated NATIONAL SUNBAE for good reasons! His character was heart warming and loveable. How could you not love JiHo? KHJ was born to play that role.

mijoong - you're doing a great job with keeping the thread updated. THANK YOU!!!!

The Y Star news alternate version gives us another glimpse into the cast. SoMin is very good at playing the role of Hani. She has the attitude and look down.

Aaahhh KHJ! He's so mean... "you can only follow me for today. don't tell anyone that you're living with me... stay far away from me...". If I was Hani I would have pulled a prank on him to teach him a good lesson. hehehe...

I made some new siggies for the new photo. [Drools over new photo]

[hergurlc]

LOVE LOVE LOVE!!! EEEEVERYBODYYY CLAP CLAP CLAP!!!

SOO SUPPPAAA CUTEEE!! AND I AGREE THEY TOTALLY GOT SOME CHEMISTRY THERE.. :wub:

SIGHH*** ANOTHER PLAYFUL HEART ATTACK... WATTA TEASE THEY GAVE US...

[azi767]

08/11 [news] Kim HyunJoong-Jung SoMin, Touch or No Touch ‘Mischievous Kiss’

Credits : gissel@tvreport.co.kr + (photo) Group Eight + SS601.com + (English Translation) xiaochu @ Quainte501.com

REPOST WITH FULL CREDITS ONLY

The most anticipated drama in the 2nd half of 2010, MBC Wed-Thu mini series ‘Mischievous Kiss’ released the mischievous kiss photo of Kim HyunJoong (as Baek SeungJo) and Jung SoMin (as Oh HaNi).

From Kim HyunJoong, Jung SoMin, to the recently casted Annyoung Bada have attracted a lot of attention for the drama, they shot the photos of ‘Mischievous Kiss’ in a studio located in downtown Seoul on 3-Aug. Leading actors/actress Kim HyunJoong. Jung SoMin, Lee TaeSung, Yoon SeungAh, Jang AhYoung and Annyoung Bada were all present for this shooting, and the highlight of this days’ shooting is in the later part on Kim HyunJoong and Jung SoMin’s mischievous kiss. Due to the unique nature of this scene, the considerate producers only allowed few numbers of staffs to be present and went into intense shooting.

With an in-dept study on the pros and cons of the original comic and Taiwan version of drama, and in order to make a perfect concept in Korea version of ‘Mischievous Kiss’, the producers paid attention to every single detail, even down to where the fingers should be placed. Kim HyunJoong, with his prior experience in ‘Boys Over Flowers’, naturally lead Jung SoMin in posing, telling her where the arms should be positioned, etc, they filmed with affection making the atmosphere at the filming scene comfortable.

In the intense shooting, one staff who was watching their lips seemingly touching or not, sadly ordered them “Just a little more!” making the people who were present laugh. “I haven’t been able to speak causal to HyunJoong sunbaenim yet” Jung SoMin could not hide her bashful smile, she expressed her feelings, “I read the original comic frequently and I am being assimilated to HaNi. Just like how I am going to live as HaNi now, I am filming the kiss scene bearing the feeling of HaNi’s one-sided love for SeungJo.”

‘Mischievous Kiss’ which has gained attention locally as well as overseas, has attracted a lot of talking points from its announcement of production to the casting of actors/actress. Bringing the sweet homemade romance, MBC’s new Wed-Thu drama ‘Mischievous Kiss’ is scheduled to be broadcasted on 1-Sep at 9.55pm.

[Guest mijoong]

HD kissu pic...

[Guest mijoong]

simina

i think from now on i will always expected ur comment, your comment is so fun and 'rich' hehehe.. you gave me 'fresh air' about some another side... especially about kdrama's world... I like watching kdramas.. But just 'watching'.. You know just for the way to spent my free time if i have any.. Did not analyse deeply, even i didnt watch many dramas.. Just some with my fav actor/fav story or the recommended ones only... So thx for sharing another 'rich' side from drama.. Drama world is my weakness so you enlighten me abit more.. I gain something new.. ^^

LOL you talk about fangirl and their traits seems like you are talking about me.. XDDDDD or i can say US.. hehehe 'so fangirl style' live.. Who the girl in this world is not attracted more to cool side of a guy? Baek Seung Jo-Oh Hani is just an extreme case...

and yes you do so true in every point you have stated... Oh ha ni character is actually our all dreams become true's ephitome ^^ Thats why it has this 'special' magic to attract viewers, shoujo manga heroes always have this trait.. Hope their character development is not overdone, overboard, geeting exagerated until give annoyed feeling.. Just stay true and natural, and as far I see our heroes are doing good so far.. No exagerating acting, all seems in the place already ^^

i laugh at this

"3 girls chasing after Seung Jo : our main lady, 2 bad girls and of course the crowd " ->> the crowd is including us.. LOL LOL...

and i really like your point about Seung jo oh so perfect and how Hani is the universal fangirl ever.. i nodded so many times.. until automatically i always nods.. LOL.. i raised my hand in every point LOL...

oh yes, i anticipated what you can share more later... ^^ btw same goes with me I like yamapi's acting much too, but not that on to NEWS.. ^^ and hell, yes tamra island is so good, but grrrrr they ended it so poorly.. and yeah i am one of the viewer who was dissapointed about how they executed PT...

LolliDoAlittle

thx for bring up again about the writer.. actually i want to talk about this in my prev reply.. but i forget to add this.. because so many list things in my head LOL... ^^

yeahhh i share exactly same sentiment with you.. *sigh* when i already know the writer of this drama, her previous drama is the one i pay attention for.. and yeah *big sigh* its another thing make me worry.. i cant categorize she is bad writer bcoz every her previous job.. but i cant deny her work is not excellent.. not 1 of her previous script is excellent... seems not 1 of them.. i cant comment much.. because i didnt watch all, so its not fair if i judge her poorly.. but i have friend that watch some of her prev job and usually my friend taste and comment is same with me, and she said she is not a good writer.. but okay i still have this positivity because she will just add something here and there in MK, and MK has already fixed plot, so she will not ruin much even if she is really bad writer.. I pray so hard this will not a mess like BOF.. btw BOF writer is really newbie, BOF is her first drama if I am not wrong.. So i think this Go Eun Nim who can be a considered a senior writer will be better than her about how to execute manga story well..

Yes there is these thing in kdrama, which we cant make a fix pattern, because its really depend on their LUCK.. that whats you need the MOST.. and sometimes there is just A factor that can lead to failed..

- good cast, but bad writer and bad airtime/slot too actually (against east of eden) -> still very popular, example BOF

- good cast, acting, bad writer -> still failed, example PT

- Good cast, good acting, and story but bad PD can lead a drama to failed too

- not many popular cast, just so so acting, good story -> success! example BK

- good story, just so so cast eventhough have excellent acting -> maybe can failed too, because people need 'wellknown cast' sometimes

- good story, amazing cast and acting, but the story is not a korean taste -> can be considered failed example: world within

- not use popular cast, so so acting, so so story, but they have good airtime/schedule time (no competitor) -> can be a success drama

- use popular cast, good acting, good story, but bad airing time/schedule (have so many competitor) -> can lead a drama considered failed in rating.. good example: YAB

the ideal is: good story, promising cast and acting, good slot time! ->>> IRIS, queen seon deok... but this is really rare case.. 1 of 100 dramas? LOL

and there are so many other conditions.. LOL.. i am getting confused to make the list longer.. but i am sure it will be a longer list...

btw thx for simina and LolliDoAlittle for kdrama knowledge.. i believe both of you have more experience in drama world.. reading your convo.. add another knowledge to my dictionary.. thank you.. hope you can share more ^^