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I’ve just checked the last two episodes regarding the timings of events, they are correct.  Yoon Jin’s case happened 7 years ago, definitely before Ha Sun’s.  That confirms Ha Sun isn’t the first victim of Choi.  And YS’s father has been trying to catch him before he got killed by Choi a year later, which occurred 6 years ago in the backstory in ep 14.

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On 10/31/2019 at 3:27 PM, QSD said:

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Seo Yoon is so amazingly cool & magnificent here by just strolling along. 

 

She's gorgeous, elegant and powerful in EOG. This drama is a step-stone for her to step into the roles of mature, intelligent, bad-a$$, hella-rich (or chaebol daughter) characters in dramas after this (Miss temper, NL, ASC, even in DD)

I remember in EOG thread, a member said the only reason for him/her to continue to hold on to EOG till the very last ep when TJ and other characters are more and more annoying and unbearable to watch is CYS always looks gorgeous. :wub: That's kinda true for me too, haha, many times along the drama, I questioned "what the heck I'm watching, why ppl can do this to another human-beings or their family members ??? " this is the reason why I can never bring myself to watch Hunger game series although I like Jennifer Lawrence's acting. 

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On 11/1/2019 at 1:10 PM, Zary said:

The last two episodes of The running mates was just pure sorrow. 

 

Spoiler: The policeman in Choi's past was YS father, right? I was just wondering, was targeting YS's family a revenge plot of Choi or just a coincidence? What do you think guys?

 

It does make sense why he is targeting runnaways since he was abandoned (from his mom's perspective). Writers nowadays trying to justify villain's actions. 

 

I'm too lazy, so I just copied and pasted what I typed in the drama's thread:

I don't think it's just coincidence. He might meet YS's sister by accident, then discovered her father was the young police and she was kinda being abandoned by him (because of his busy job, maybe). This triggered him to commit his first murder, then it goes on and on with another 7 victims. 

The fact that he requests no one but YS to meet him for his appeal proves that he knows her family quite well. He kills her sister then her dad, and prepares for his last encounter with her. 

I think because the production is cut shorter, they have no time to elaborate how he approaches YS's sister and knows she's the daughter of the young police, or the other way around, he tails YS's dad first then knows his vulnerable daughter and approaches her. Also, I wonder if YS's dad recognizes he's the boy who was abused in the past. Likely, he knows, so he tails him for 1 year before being killed by him. 

 

I have so many unanswered questions... :( 

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21 hours ago, Zary said:

Actually I was like how could the policeman just let it go (at first). If he could have done more for young Choi back then, maybe he wouldn't end up a killer. Then later in the scene when they showed the policeman's name, there I realized, YS father could have prevented it to happen. The writers are genuis. It's true, every actions has its consequences (directly or indirectly). Like what YS said, you are evenly worse when you turn a blind eye (although I'm not really sure if that's what YS father did, but it seems that he didn't do much)

 

I just feel bad for YS, I hope they've given her a longer scene to mourn, actually it looks like she hadn't really, which is even more painful to watch. 

 

Yeah, I think so too, everything we do, good or bad, has consequences sooner or later. :( 

Like the conversation b/w her and  the victim's father, they don't really feel shocked, happy or whatever when they know the whereabouts of their beloved, they don't know what they're expecting, all they need is a closure to move on with their lives. It's freaking 7 years for YS and 6 years for Ha Sun's parents. They've mourned enough. In this case, I think although the truth is cruel, it's better than holding on a thin or unrealistic hope. 

Not related to the drama, but this makes me think about the families of the passengers in MH370 airplane. I think their feeling is exactly like YS's or HS's parents'. :( 

 

This drama makes me feel sorrowful the most among LYW's dramas, to be honest. But I really wish it could be longer.  

 

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20 hours ago, Zary said:

So I'm a bit confused. That day when Yoon Jin died, it was Choi in the car right, he was about to get Yoon jin but Sun Ho was there. So he told Yoon Jin over the phone to meet him somewhere else. I just really hope they expanded that a little bit, Sun ho was at the scene, did he got away (I'm sure he wasn't a culprit) or did Choi purposely used the oppurtunity to pin it to Sun ho. I mean he usually hid the body, he could have killed them both. Or he purposely want the police to find the body? And did they even question Sun Ho, I mean he could at least utter some words to help his case. But of course, the direction of the story is different. So they wouldn't focus on that.

 

Maybe they can have a SPIN-OFF about Choi and YS working together (me, shipping Choi and YS haha). YS working as an investigator of another serial killing case then Choi helping her catch criminals. 

 

 

 

I continued to copy and paste what I typed in the drama's thread (I'm too lazy, lol)

They don't do justice for the school boy who was accused and jailed for what he didn't do, right? Nice! and what is the purpose that they put the creepy scene when YS drives pass him? I thought they have an intention with this. And they never explain how Choi killed YS's sister, then walked away and put all blame on the boy.

 

The drama being cut short drives me crazy, really. I don't like being confused after the drama finished. I wonder if Choi planed to kill YS's sister and hid her body in the first place (like another 7 victims), however, the boy unexpectedly showed up, so he must change his plan: killed the sister then framed the boy, and walked away innocent.

I think he didn't kill them both because the boy is not on his target list (run-away or abandoned girls). Psychopath killers have their own rules which normal ppl can never understand. 

 

I think there is a US series like what you want, which I watched long time ago, so I don't remember the name. There is a criminal knowing a lot of secrets of underground world, and police must cooperate with him to catch other criminals. 

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On 10/31/2019 at 11:10 PM, Zary said:

The last two episodes of The running mates was just pure sorrow. 

 

Spoiler: The policeman in Choi's past was YS father, right? I was just wondering, was targeting YS's family a revenge plot of Choi or just a coincidence? What do you think guys?

 

It does make sense why he is targeting runnaways since he was abandoned (from his mom's perspective). Writers nowadays trying to justify villain's actions. 

 

 

11 hours ago, vaiduakhu said:

 

I'm too lazy, so I just copied and pasted what I typed in the drama's thread:

I don't think it's just coincidence. He might meet YS's sister by accident, then discovered her father was the young police and she was kinda being abandoned by him (because of his busy job, maybe). This triggered him to commit his first murder, then it goes on and on with another 7 victims. 

The fact that he requests no one but YS to meet him for his appeal proves that he knows her family quite well. He kills her sister then her dad, and prepares for his last encounter with her. 

I think because the production is cut shorter, they have no time to elaborate how he approaches YS's sister and knows she's the daughter of the young police, or the other way around, he tails YS's dad first then knows his vulnerable daughter and approaches her. Also, I wonder if YS's dad knows he's the boy who was abused in the past. Likely, he knows, so he tails him for 1 year before being killed by him. 

 

I have so many unanswered questions... :( 

 

Oopps… sorry ladies, I wasn’t really confirm the young police in the past is YS’s dad when I first responded to Zary’s inquiry in the previous page.  I misread the question and got mixed up in another scene, therefore, I think it’s just a coincidence that Choi targeted YS’s family.  However, I can now verify the young police in the flashback is the late Han, thus Choi has been intentionally going after YS for the final encounter.  Their scenes are quite intense and interesting.  YS facing dilemmas between her principles as an inspector and her own personal’s pains knowing him is the killer of her family members.  In the end, she still holds her strong conviction for the benefit of the public and doesn’t let her personal feelings interfered of her decision as an unbiased inspector who revealing nothing but the truth.

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I was nervous and worried for SY whether to save SJG or her little bro Sung Jae.  Too much stress for her to fight not only against Tae Joo, Min Jae, Won Jae, and stepmom, she has to protect her step bro as well.  SY is the most stressful character of Yowon thus far.  No wonder it drained all our energy while watching it. 

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On 11/2/2019 at 12:13 PM, QSD said:

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I suppose having 3 kids is not busy for Her Majesty.  The Queen wants to learn playing guitar, flower arrangement, and English.  On top of that, she would be traveling around on earth.  Acting doesn’t count, since we need her to grace the screen everlasting.

Oh so that's what it mean (hangul)? She wrote that? Niceeee. Her kid can teach her English. She seems to be really good. I've seen that video they did on insta live with Uee. We can give her guitar lessons for free. It'll be easy for her to do the barre chord since her fingers are long. :D

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On 11/2/2019 at 5:21 PM, vaiduakhu said:

I don't think it's just coincidence. He might meet YS's sister by accident, then discovered her father was the young police and she was kinda being abandoned by him (because of his busy job, maybe). This triggered him to commit his first murder, then it goes on and on with another 7 victims. 

The fact that he requests no one but YS to meet him for his appeal proves that he knows her family quite well. He kills her sister then her dad, and prepares for his last encounter with her. 

I think because the production is cut shorter, they have no time to elaborate how he approaches YS's sister and knows she's the daughter of the young police, or the other way around, he tails YS's dad first then knows his vulnerable daughter and approaches her. Also, I wonder if YS's dad knows he's the boy who was abused in the past. Likely, he knows, so he tails him for 1 year before being killed by him. 

 

I have so many unanswered questions... :( 

Yes, me too. There are so many details they should have added. 

 

You've seen that video YS have seen at the police station? Yoon Jin was wearing a different clothing. On the night she was murdered, she was wearing a uniform. That would mean they meet regularly before he decided to kill her. He has plans all along, to think that there were no fingerprints or any DNA, he was prepared. He could have chosen a different day. I think there's more to it than just his urge to kill someone that day.  

 

About what I said that Yoon Jin was his first victim. Sorry, it was his father. Choi's first victim was his father. 

 

On 11/2/2019 at 5:36 PM, vaiduakhu said:

 

Yeah, I think so too, everything we do, good or bad, has consequences sooner or later. :( 

Like the conversation b/w her and  the victim's father, they don't really feel shocked, happy or whatever when they know the whereabouts of their beloved, they don't know what they're expecting, all they need is a closure to move on with their lives. It's freaking 7 years for YS and 6 years for Ha Sun's parents. They've mourned enough. In this case, I think although the truth is cruel, it's better than holding on a thin or unrealistic hope. 

Not related to the drama, but this makes me think about the families of the passengers in MH370 airplane. I think their feeling is exactly like YS's or HS's parents'. :( 

 

This drama makes me feel sorrowful the most among LYW's dramas, to be honest. But I really wish it could be longer.  

 

Yes, it's like I was carrying a load of sorrow after watching the last episode. 

 

I just really wanted YS to have at least a minute to cry out loud. It was like she's in the middle with all of it and then baaam she has to do this or she recieved a call. That scene at the bathroom, how I wanted to tell her, girl let it all out. And then that scene at the prison when she grabbed Choi and then walked out like lifeless human then she received a call. Can you atleast leave this lady for a minute. Lol.

 

On 11/2/2019 at 5:54 PM, vaiduakhu said:

 

I continued to copy and paste what I typed in the drama's thread (I'm too lazy, lol)

They don't do justice for the school boy who was accused and jailed for what he didn't do, right? Nice! and what is the purpose that they put the creepy scene when YS drives pass him? I thought they have an intention with this. And they never explain how Choi killed YS's sister, then walked away and put all blame on the boy.

 

The drama being cut short drives me crazy, really. I don't like being confused after the drama finished. I wonder if Choi planed to kill YS's sister and hid her body in the first place (like another 7 victims), however, the boy unexpectedly showed up, so he must change his plan: killed the sister then framed the boy, and walked away innocent.

I think he didn't kill them both because the boy is not on his target list (run-away or abandoned girls). Psychopath killers have their own rules which normal ppl can never understand. 

 

I think there is a US series like what you want, which I watched long time ago, so I don't remember the name. There is a criminal knowing a lot of secrets of underground world, and police must cooperate with him to catch other criminals. 

True, I was waiting for that too. I was waiting for YS to talk to Sun ho. When the detective saw the video then he called YS, I was like now she's going to see that boy then maybe this time he can tell us what really happened. Sun ho got out after a few years, maybe if he was in the prison still, then they will surely do something. 

 

I also wanted a Choi and YS encounter outside. Imagine what would Choi do or what would YS do. I like how Bae was worried about YS when Choi escaped. 

 

But overall this is a good show. I'm just sad they ended it at 14. The first 10 episodes were laid back, just when we're beginning to feel the adrenaline, it ended. I like how they show scenes based on different perspectives. 

 

Yeah there are many US series like that. But let me guess, I think you're thinking about The Blacklist. 

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, QSD said:

 

 

 

 

Oopps… sorry ladies, I wasn’t really confirm the young police in the past is YS’s dad when I first responded to Zary’s inquiry in the previous page.  I misread the question and got mixed up in another scene, therefore, I think it’s just a coincidence that Choi targeted YS’s family.  However, I can now verify the young police in the flashback is the late Han, thus Choi has been intentionally going after YS for the final encounter.  Their scenes are quite intense and interesting.  YS facing dilemmas between her principles as an inspector and her own personal’s pains knowing him is the killer of her family members.  In the end, she still holds her strong conviction for the benefit of the public and doesn’t let her personal feelings interfered of her decision as an unbiased inspector who revealing nothing but the truth.

YS is much more cruel than we think. She asked, do you think that is the true punishment? (about death penalty). Ya girl, living in this world is much more painful for Choi than dying the easy way. Plus just like what you said about his cancer, like how painful it is. I think YS helped Choi not because that is what an investigator without mixing emotions would do rather she did it because she doesn't believe that death penalty is the true punishment. I' m just kidding , lmao. After she saw the video and heard it was his father's body, she wanted to kill Choi. Oh wait, so she hasn't confrimed that Choi killed her sister right, not after she saw the video? 

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I agree, EOG is one of the most stressful. That's why I couldn't bear to watch it again. QSD is stressful too, I rewatched it just a few months ago. But if I ever watch it again in the future. I'll stop on the episode she became the queen. 

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Sad scene.  She’s been waiting for years to hear some news of her father.  Finally, it comes at that moment.  The part where she repeatedly listening to the voice mail of her family is also blue.  So lonely.

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13 hours ago, Zary said:

Oh so that's what it mean (hangul)? She wrote that? Niceeee. Her kid can teach her English. She seems to be really good. I've seen that video they did on insta live with Uee. We can give her guitar lessons for free. It'll be easy for her to do the barre chord since her fingers are long. :D

 

I can’t be sure what she wrote in Hangul but I got the info from the comments of the fans by google translation.

 

Regarding the confirmation about Joon Jin, I think YS already knew Choi killed her sister.

 

11 hours ago, Zary said:

I agree, EOG is one of the most stressful. That's why I couldn't bear to watch it again. QSD is stressful too, I rewatched it just a few months ago. But if I ever watch it again in the future. I'll stop on the episode she became the queen. 

 

True, Deokman also has a lot of stress after her coronation as the Queen.  We all know where that came from. However, I can manage it much better than EOG where there’re more irritated characters like a punching bag to me.

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13 hours ago, Zary said:

Yes, me too. There are so many details they should have added. 

 

You've seen that video YS have seen at the police station? Yoon Jin was wearing a different clothing. On the night she was murdered, she was wearing a uniform. That would mean they meet regularly before he decided to kill her. He has plans all along, to think that there were no fingerprints or any DNA, he was prepared. He could have chosen a different day. I think there's more to it than just his urge to kill someone that day.  

 

About what I said that Yoon Jin was his first victim. Sorry, it was his father. Choi's first victim was his father. 

 

I didn't notice Joon Jin wore different uniforms, but if it's the case, I think it's just a mistake while filming. They filmed 2 scenes at 2 different places: bus station and warehouse, so they probably made mistake on her clothing. JJ was killed on the night she talked to YS on phone abt her birthday party at home. 

Yes, it confirms that they had met regularly before she was murdered. He planed everything, but the boy showing up was unexpected.

I wish they had more eps to explain what happened that night and do justice for the boy who was jailed for what he didn't do. 

 

So, you think he killed his dad? I'm not really sure abt it (I'm actually not sure abt many things in this drama). I wonder why his mom ground the pills and put into his milk, what's her plan? at first, I thought she wanted to poison her abusive husband. 

 

13 hours ago, Zary said:

I just really wanted YS to have at least a minute to cry out loud. It was like she's in the middle with all of it and then baaam she has to do this or she recieved a call. That scene at the bathroom, how I wanted to tell her, girl let it all out. And then that scene at the prison when she grabbed Choi and then walked out like lifeless human then she received a call. Can you atleast leave this lady for a minute. Lol.

 

The scene in the restroom when she broke her heel is really painful to watch. Sometimes, crying out loud is the best (we cry, let it go and move on), but she couldn't cry. The situation is beyond sorrow and hopelessness. Having been looking for her dad for 7 years, and who knows that one day she's the one finding his body in a jar... :( 

But agree, 2 last eps are kinda rushing. 

 

13 hours ago, Zary said:

I also wanted a Choi and YS encounter outside. Imagine what would Choi do or what would YS do. I like how Bae was worried about YS when Choi escaped. 

But overall this is a good show. I'm just sad they ended it at 14. The first 10 episodes were laid back, just when we're beginning to feel the adrenaline, it ended. I like how they show scenes based on different perspectives. 

 

Yeah there are many US series like that. But let me guess, I think you're thinking about The Blacklist

 

I expected something different when Choi escaped: he would find YS and try to kill her, then his mom and commit suicide.This would be the end of his revenge plot on her family and his family also. 

Btw, I thought Bae would continue to work at HRC after he finds out that they do meaningful work at HRC, lol. 

 

Yes, probably, it's the Blacklist, I forget, I had watched many detective/investigating series in the past, until few years ago, I decided that this genre was too stressful and I already had enough stress at work :lol:, I needed sth lighter, so I stopped.

I only follow Sherlock Holmes (BBC series) now, hope they make sth new soon. 

 

13 hours ago, Zary said:

YS is much more cruel than we think. She asked, do you think that is the true punishment? (about death penalty). Ya girl, living in this world is much more painful for Choi than dying the easy way. Plus just like what you said about his cancer, like how painful it is. I think YS helped Choi not because that is what an investigator without mixing emotions would do rather she did it because she doesn't believe that death penalty is the true punishment. I' m just kidding , lmao. After she saw the video and heard it was his father's body, she wanted to kill Choi. Oh wait, so she hasn't confrimed that Choi killed her sister right, not after she saw the video? 

 

I think she had known Choi was the real culprit in her sister's case before she saw that video. However, that video is too brutal, that makes her angry, so she wanna grab him and kill him. I remember he asked her during their last conversation at the prison that if her dad and sister are disappointed at her because she can't even kill him when she has chance? Because of this, I assume she knew. 

 

Btw, I think I'm one of few ppl who think they should execute the death sentence for him. Suffering pain from cancer or a shot on his head or whatever, it can't make his victims alive or their families less sorrowful (they maybe cheer for his death a bit, but it won't last long, their beloved is dead anyway). 

Stay of execution only waste resources (medicine, medical staff, polices...) to supervise his treatment at the hospital. Not only from business perspective, but also, I don't think human right should be applied to criminals like Choi, who take the lives of others without asking for their right to live.

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13 hours ago, Zary said:

I agree, EOG is one of the most stressful. That's why I couldn't bear to watch it again. QSD is stressful too, I rewatched it just a few months ago. But if I ever watch it again in the future. I'll stop on the episode she became the queen. 

 

1 hour ago, QSD said:

True, Deokman also has a lot of stress after her coronation as the Queen.  We all know where that came from. However, I can manage it much better than EOG where there’re more irritated characters like a punching bag to me.

 

Girls, we need LYW in a cheerful drama ASAP! I don't need deep or intriguing or genius stories, I just need to see her walking around happily like in ASC (ASC is sad sometimes though, but ok, acceptable). 

I needs sth light for my life too, lol, I'm still in withdrawal phase from Running mates. This is so bad, as there are many unanswered Qs. 

I had a hard time to withdraw my emotions from QSD, to be honest, 1 or 2 months, I remember. I couldn't accept the Queen's death, and the drama's sad OSTs made it worse. :tears: I kept repeating her glory scenes to comfort my soul, but it didn't cheer me up a bit. Thanks goodness, I started my job after that, so I didn't have much time to repeat the drama. Less painful! 

EOG is ok, she's lonely but still alive in the end. Being alive is important, lol, at least I believe her character has chance to be happy in her future. haha. 

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