Guest yuki fiore Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 wow that was really straight to the point. i respect him for not caring what others think... and finally someone has the guts to speak their mind... finally... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest choco.pie218 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 shin haechul ftw. i hope this brings a change to the fc system in korea. the amount of power and influence these clubs have is terrifying. behavior from many fanclubs was just horrible; why can't fanclubs do something more productive like actually BUYING their idol's albums rather than booing other stars? because the majority of the members have yet to mature. anyway. goo shin haechul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Soy Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hm? Look, I'm going to answer but I truly don't want to discuss about this anymore. I'm done. I'm not going to ask you to stop your sarcasm, it does pisses me off but I guess it's up to you whether or not you keep on talking on that tone to EVERYONE you disagree in this topic. Bigger issues? To me bigger issues are: Suiciding fans, all the threatening by all the freaky fangirls/boys of every fandom, death threats included... As fas as I'm concerned, Elfs, Caas AND Honeys usually go to each sites to mess around; violence betweeen one fandom to the other... all the beating you mentioned. I also heard there were injured people on the DCon. I think it was... catchy to bring this topic on his show, but he should have talked about THOSE issues instead of just focusing only on the booing. That was what I meant on my post, I'm soooooooooooo sorry if I didn't make myself clear, Ok? So, that's it. People got injured because they were stupid enough to try and run to the VIP seats. The News media had a lot of articles about how the injuries that resulted from DC, came from the stupidity of fans wanting better seats (that effing delayed the concert too). All the other crap, are fan accounts, bias fan accounts, that's all that needs to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yienyienyien Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Hm? Look, I'm going to answer but I truly don't want to discuss about this anymore. I'm done. I'm not going to ask you to stop your sarcasm, it does pisses me off but I guess it's up to you whether or not you keep on talking on that tone to EVERYONE you disagree in this topic. Bigger issues? To me bigger issues are: Suiciding fans, all the threatening by all the freaky fangirls/boys of every fandom, death threats included... As fas as I'm concerned, Elfs, Caas AND Honeys usually go to each sites to mess around; violence betweeen one fandom to the other... all the beating you mentioned. I also heard there were injured people on the DCon. I think it was... catchy to bring this topic on his show, but he should have talked about THOSE issues instead of just focusing only on the booing. That was what I meant on my post, I'm soooooooooooo sorry if I didn't make myself clear, Ok? So, that's it. i guess you're missing the point. He doesn't care about what's happening inside the fanclubs (so do I, it's their faults for being stupid in the first place). He's saying NO IDOL STARS/ENTERTAINERS SHOULD RECEIVE THIS KIND OF TREATMENT because they did nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalis Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 lolz I like the 'will only play SNSD songs for 365 days of the year' part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ganners Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 ^ ^ ^ so? .... I mentioned INJURED people, they're crazy fans as well -______________- A little too defensive? This is why all the fights in here starts. Some people I swear..... yienyienyien Honey, I read what he said O___o;;; I said "HE SHOULD HAVE TALKED" okay? take it as a recommendation .___. I'm not against anything he said O___o; Last post in here, I swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uyen Duong Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Never heard of him. But I definitely now respect him. He said almost everything that was on my mind about this concert. It was so so so soooo disrespectful to boo someone who has worked so hard. Can you imagine how SNSD felt? The fans actions were all very immature on both sides. ):.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest crazyfrog Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 what makes me sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo freaking sad is that anti-fans have become the norm in korea....it makes korea looks bad and it makes the industry look bad as well... people in korea should be shameful, esp is there are people looking in...the outward appearance is not very appealing i agree... i've never even heard of antifans until i got into the k-pop scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KaiIem Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 If those guys didn't totally rip up those Suju banners, none of this would have happened. Wasn't the "anti SNSD movement" planned before the concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVfXQ_NaNa Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 that's nice to hear these bullies...... it's just manners a applaude the singer after they've performed and this just shows how much manner they don't have i think that the problem of being not mannered to sunbae's is only done by a few ppl in the group but then the rest of the group has to take the blame as well? the girls should b releaved to hear this SNSD fighting!!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Soy Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Btw. if anyone cares. Cass & DC Soshi (SNSD still doesn't have a fan club yet, but their dc galleries are their biggest like gatherings for fans) are completely cool now, if that helps with the tension. They worked out their difference, and realize how stupid the whole DC thing was. <3 so goo Cass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dancingbymyself Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's really great of him to Stand Up For the SNSD. But when i read it i feel like he is just some pervert sucking up SNSD or Try to be more famous. I am not big fan of SNSD but i like their music and i think they are really talented and Gorgeous People. But insulting some one else fan aint just rite. Im just saying my opinion. Im sry if im offending to any fan of SNSD or Fan of him. Since he's 10x more famous then them, I don't think he need the attention. As for the situation with the fans, I don't think it's gonna get better unless the celebs themselves do something about it. I think they need to have a press conference and just be like. "Stop it, do you think this makes us happy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ganners Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 If those guys didn't totally rip up those Suju banners, none of this would have happened Wasn't the "anti SNSD movement" planned before the concert? Hahahaha, I wasn't going to post. BUT HERE WE GO AGAIN. Smash your heads all you want with your bashing and arguing, it's not gonna get you anywhere and just ruins the poster intension's. Tsk tsk tsk tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Daix2 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 wow, this Shin Haechul man is my hero. It really is nice to just speak up and not give a crap about what anyone else thinks. Heck, if I were him/anyone, I probably would be scared and put things nicely, but this guy... He just speaks his mind. I like that he didn't single out the fanclubs and talked about the fans in general. So I'm guessing they'll be hearing SoShi songs forever now, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xbaaByette Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 LMAO I love this man . He does not care what anyone thinks and ignores them until his point is loud and clear . He's so right, and it feels nice for once that someone isn't scared to speak their mind . That's the thing in Korea, no one does because they're actually scared .. you know that's gotta be messed up . His statements about how it's improper etiquette to show no interest and physically/verbally put an artist down was more than painful . I really LOL when he said he would play SNSD songs for 365 and change the station if there are complaint and such . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest look its you Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's really great of him to Stand Up For the SNSD. But when i read it i feel like he is just some pervert sucking up SNSD or Try to be more famous. I am not big fan of SNSD but i like their music and i think they are really talented and Gorgeous People. But insulting some one else fan aint just rite. Im just saying my opinion. Im sry if im offending to any fan of SNSD or Fan of him. i dont think he's standing up for snsd per se. i think he's standing up for whole music industry. he feels ashamed that something like this would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toanyone21 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 If those guys didn't totally rip up those Suju banners, none of this would have happened. I heard SNSD fans couldnt see so they try to move them and it riped..dont know if its true. Not really a fan of SNSD but that was too much. Not cheering for them and yelling bad stuff isnt nice, I hope the girls alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest snail. Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Btw. if anyone cares. Cass & DC Soshi (SNSD still doesn't have a fan club yet, but their dc galleries are their biggest like gatherings for fans) are completely cool now, if that helps with the tension. They worked out their difference, and realize how stupid the whole DC thing was. <3 so goo Cass. Wow, that's really good to hear and more respect to Shin Hae Chul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest candyl2454 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 omg i luvv him!!!! ur freaken awesome! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iamhere Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Bigger issues? To me bigger issues are: Suiciding fans, all the threatening by all the freaky fangirls/boys of every fandom, death threats included... As fas as I'm concerned, Elfs, Caas AND Honeys usually go to each sites to mess around; violence betweeen one fandom to the other... all the beating you mentioned. I also heard there were injured people on the DCon. I think it was... catchy to bring this topic on his show, but he should have talked about THOSE issues instead of just focusing only on the booing. As stated before, he was only using the "bullying" as an EXAMPLE. Those issues you just stated are what he's talking about. Suicide and threats are showing how the crazed fans "acts show nothing but how dirty and disgusting they are." The whole point of his rant/whatever is to say that fandom has gone too far in the negative direction and he's using the Dream Concert as a what? EXAMPLE. If either action didn't happen, the booing incident or the banner ripping. (I'm assuming it did happen because there was no actual evidence.) The other action would have still occurred. From previous evidence, the fan club of the boybands were all planning the silent treatment beforehand and the banner ripping did not set that off. Same for the other side, even if the SNSD fans didn't know about the "silent" act they would've probably still ripped the banner. (Supposedly they did it for more seats.) The supposed knife happy boy, is that not an idiotic fanboy who immersion in the fandom culture? While I agree the DJ did not directly state these "issues," he still indirectly commented on them. "They gained some "pride" now but their sad acts or the 3rd class fans that participated are insignificant for the music industry. It's not going to improve nor harm the progress and advancement of music. They are just 3rd class fans who have no life." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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