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oh'retro, i think you misread my username. but yes, i'm glad you agree.

this is just too much. there have been a lot of times when i felt yg was extremely unfair but i don't think i've ever felt the need to rant this bad.

se7en's korean fans over at farineli are planning to write notes to yg.

if you go to the yg family website there's a place called "to yg" where you can express your feelings/ideas to him.

i've never signed up for an account at the yg website but i think i will now. it just breaks my heart and fills me with anger to see se7en getting this kind of treatment.

there's nothing wrong with writing to yg about this since that's what "to yg" is for.

you guys should consider it too.

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calm down seriously

this is the problem with korean fans

they get too worked up easily... and i've stepped into that trap before too btu there's no need to

calm and think carefully as to why things are the way they are..here are a few points i would like to make

(1) CDW has not been back in Korea for nearly 4 years.. that's why they started off with a mini album.. to try the market but most of all to try to build up his popularity again. I dont think anyone expected a follow up song in this mini album as YG has already planned a full length album for him in the near future. So i was actually surprised that he has stuff airing in september at all. On top of that, from what i've heard, he's going to be appearing on variety shows slowly and steadily to try to build up his name again.. so rather than bang bang bang, let's make impact, he's trying to push back in to the market

(2) for that same reason, CDW is not getting as much attention as BB or 2ne1. From YG's point of view, if BB and 2ne1 are making more money, of course he's going to put more emphasis and more investment onto them, that' s common sense. Do you think that YG will leave the rest of his calendar free just for CDW? no way. This is exactly what happened in the past with Wheesung, lexy, gummy etc... when Dongwookie was at his peak, he got ALL the attention and all the resources. There is really nothing much that can be done. YG is trying to build the company now as it has significantly expanded but they're still employing new ppl and i dont think there's any real efficient system of doing things just yet. I hope this will improve over time becuase they've got more ppl now

(3) I think as his fans we have to be rational and accept reality to a certain extent. This is the same issue with the streaming and the charts. No matter how much we try to push others and how frustrated we get over why his popularity is not up there, it is meaningless and pointless to expect too much. I said this and i will say it again, this is not sth that can be accomplished by any one person. It's a team effort. if there are not enough ppl out there, whatever we do is going to end up with the same result. We cant expect him to come out and bang bang bang get No 1 on all the charts and have his schedule filled up to the brim. IT'S NOT HAPPENING PPL. We can do our own part, we can pray, we can do all that but if his fanbase is not big anymore, there's only so much we can do. I hope that CDW can gain his popularity back but i cant drag someone to join his fanclub and buy his albums.

(4) Please dont compare him to other artists from other companies. They work in a different way. Do you think YG will ever follow SM's marketing strategies? Do you WANT yg to follow SM's marketing techniques? It's different and i dont think we want YG to go there.

(5) Lastly, we know nothing about what's happening behind the scenes. I know that YG was going to post a msg regarding se7en's comeback back at the beginning of july but then it didnt happen but nobody knows why. I dont think it's fair to judge in some aspects. I can make lots of speculations as to the relationshp between YG and CDW but i wont. I'm not saying to just shut up and accept but i think it's not healthy to get worked up over speculations. MAYBE yg learnt from cdw's US attempt, MAYBE yg has other plans for him... there are alot of maybes... we can whinge about it but somethings are goign to stay the wya they are for some reasons.

Really, my advice is not to try to get sucked into the korean fans' over emotive reactions and keep a clear mind

That's it from me

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well said cecilia...

well I'm not a lucky 7 or not yet one but I've been looking at videos of Se7en's 747 concert and DANG it's hella good! I was thinking to myself "where the hell was I when this dude came out???" lol he's a freaken beast when it comes to singing! dang! takes my breath away and leaves my mouth hanging every time!

his performance of "One Last Cry" was AMAZING!!!! that dude can hella hold his notes!!!! ok gotta go watch more videos of Se7en!!!

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i have been re-watching 747 concert again and again

and i just get so teared up whenever i see the sea of se7en glow sticks

i donno,

just maybe,

maybe YG is planning something else for se7en

maybe se7en will really release a full length album

maybe YG will promote him once hes done with BB and 2NE1.

i just hope all these maybes will worth the wait. :tears:

i am not expecting much because it's..obvious how much more devoted YG is to the others

taeyang just finished promotion then concert then an international album, promoting another song

next will be 2NE1 in Sept. and also BB comeback

and since he always just promote one artist at a time

i guess.. everything will be pushed back - so.. just maybe, se7en will begin promotion in Japan.

no matter how much more money others can make,

i just hope mr yg remembers how it was when se7en was (is) his most valuable artist.

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I was surprised to check her CY. :mellow:

2010.08.16 23:52

「envy me?

 envy me!

www.starly.co.kr」

This timing!

SE7EN will talk about her for the first time tomorrow.

Is it the concept of clothes?

I do not think so. :vicx:

She stimulates a fan of SE7EN many times in the past.

But SE7EN does not mind this thing. :sweatingbullets:

I think this thing influences popularity of SE7EN.

Most fans of SE7EN are women.

This is a thought of only me.

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mzangelgurl I know what you're feeling & it's really frustrating but Cecila is right..

The artists who are making more money, get more attention,promotion..It's just normal.

As for making it big in the US, I'm still stuck to my idea that he doesn't have to sing in English in order to make it big there. I don't know about the US bu this is how it works in Europe(mostly France): many foreign artists make it to the n°1 in charts for weeks without singing in french or spanish or.. Just singing their own music,their own style ;)

I was hoping for Se7en to do the same thing BUT since he has the abilities(vocals&dancing skills) it's the fault of YG, this is what I was thinking :)

rose7 what did she mean? :huh:

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yeah, Ismahane, i understand.

but upon reading yg's notice, i just needed to rant.

i think my main fear is that yg doesn't see se7en's value as an artist anymore.

se7en just has too much talent and potential to just get second-hand treatment.

ugh, i could go on and on but i think i'll stop.

and rose7, what do you mean? i don't think i quite understood your post.

what do you mean she stimulates the fans?

are you saying her post about envy is aimed at the lucky 7s?

btw, did you guys hear????????????

se7en sang come back to me (from his 1st album), passion, LISTEN(!!!!!!), and better together for his sketchbook appearance.

ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! although he didn't sing anything except better together from digital bounce, i'm so stoked to hear his version of listen!

everyone who isn't a fan of se7en needs to see this so that they can see for themselves what kind of artist se7en is. :D

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btw, did you guys hear????????????

se7en sang come back to me (from his 1st album), passion, LISTEN(!!!!!!), and better together for his sketchbook appearance.

ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! although he didn't sing anything except better together from digital bounce, i'm so stoked to hear his version of listen!

everyone who isn't a fan of se7en needs to see this so that they can see for themselves what kind of artist se7en is. :D

What's Listen? Is it a cover of someone else? I'm just stoked that he will be able to display his singing talent with the ballads :)

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I was going to post my comment about Se7en`s situation right now, but I guess I won`t have becasue all I was going to say was said by cecilia.

Please remember Se7en made a comeback after 3 years. In music market it`s very long time! Frankly speaking even a year ia a big gap & may cause problems.

What Se7en has to do now, is to make his name at same place when he was before step by step. Everyone should know it won`t be like - it`s Se7en, so let him win everythin, be no.1 etc etc. His situation is different.

About Sketchbook - I can`t wait!! yeahh~ ^^

He even made tweet about it

오늘 스케치북 녹화장에 저를 보러 가족들과함께 미국에서까지 와주신 분이 있었어요. 휠체어에 몸을 의지하신 몸이 많이 불편하신분이였는데.. PD님의 부탁으로 싸인도해드리고 사진도찍어드렸지만 마지막에 부탁하신거...녹화바로전이라 바빠서 못해드린거 미안해요.. 잠들기전 그분의 아쉬워하던 얼굴이 계속 떠올라.. 미안한 맘에 이렇게 글을 남겨요.. 이글 보고계시다면 다음번엔 꼭 음성벨소리 녹음 해드리겠다는 약속 드리면서.. 저를 아껴주시는 모든 분들께 더더욱 좋은 무대 보여드릴것을 약속합니다!!! Love yall..!!!!

cr: @officialse7en

Now waiting for Golden Fishery & Sketchbok ^^

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omg, he sang PASSION?! I love that song T__________T I wish he sang more of his old songs like "girlfriend"! I love it. I can't wait till this airs!

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btw, did you guys hear????????????

se7en sang come back to me (from his 1st album), passion, LISTEN(!!!!!!), and better together for his sketchbook appearance.

ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! although he didn't sing anything except better together from digital bounce, i'm so stoked to hear his version of listen!

everyone who isn't a fan of se7en needs to see this so that they can see for themselves what kind of artist se7en is. :D

Really??Come back to me?? AWESOME :D Can't wait for it ^^

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mzangelgurl Oh yeah, whoops, sorry, I don't know why I wrote Cecilia.

Wow, Se7en sang Passion at Sketchbook?

I can't wait!

That's my favorite song from him along with La La La.

When will his episode of Sketchbook be airing?

Well, 2NE1 is having their comeback September 9th & are promoting 3 songs.

So, I don't know when YG plans on doing anything with Se7en & his full length album.

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btw, did you guys hear????????????

se7en sang come back to me (from his 1st album), passion, LISTEN(!!!!!!), and better together for his sketchbook appearance.

ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! although he didn't sing anything except better together from digital bounce, i'm so stoked to hear his version of listen!

everyone who isn't a fan of se7en needs to see this so that they can see for themselves what kind of artist se7en is. :D

O.O ok.. I am officially excited for Sketchbook!! Not that I wasn't anyway...but I'm even more excited if that were possible :)

At first when you said Listen I was like...Se7en has a song called Listen??? And then it hit me it must be Beyonce's Listen right? Haha

Omg. Passion is like my all time favourite track by Wookie!

Although I do wish he sang I'm Going Crazy...I'm so happy to hear him sing some of his old songs!!!

Thanks for the info~

And he tweeted when it was like 4am in Korea....get some sleep Wookie!!

mzangelgurl Oh yeah, whoops, sorry, I don't know why I wrote Cecilia.

Wow, Se7en sang Passion at Sketchbook?

I can't wait!

That's my favorite song from him along with La La La.

When will his episode of Sketchbook be airing?

Well, 2NE1 is having their comeback September 9th & are promoting 3 songs.

So, I don't know when YG plans on doing anything with Se7en & his full length album.

Airs on the 20th according to his schedule ^^

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Fiona - I get confused too. xD I thought I miss it from his discography.

Too bad he sang only 3 song... But there`s Passion! And Come Back To Me... and Better Together ^^ But I wish to hear more lives from Digital Bounce.

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edit: thanks mzangelgurl...I see...so that's it...ok then well can't wait to see him perform again...did I mention that I love watching his lives? lol he needs to do more balads...

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a fan who attended the recording just said se7en actually sang 5 songs at the recording.

come back to me, passion, listen, better together, and another song from digital bounce. not sure which one though.

and yes, the song listen is the one by beyonce.

i've been listening to it on youtube and i just squeel at the thought of hearing it with se7en's voice!

the only problem is that apparently all five songs are very unlikely to be aired. i heard that usually only three songs are aired. <_<

EDIT:

a_thao4ever, you can find the answer to your question here.

if you go back a few pages to page 1122, there's the answer to your question.

it's in the end of post #22430.

i guess you can say it's a bit of a sensitive issue.

hopefully that'll answer your question. :)

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cecilia: thanks for subbing running man ^^

se7en was so cute at the last part when they were taking pictures after getting off the bus

and he was soooo cute rolling on the floor and shouting, hahaha!!

can't wait to see golden fishery and sketchbook!!

he's gonna be singing listen by beyonce?! YES! can't wait to hear those crazy vocals of se7en's!!

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a fan who attended the recording just said se7en actually sang 5 songs at the recording.

come back to me, passion, listen, better together, and another song from digital bounce. not sure which one though.

and yes, the song listen is the one by beyonce.

i've been listening to it on youtube and i just squeel at the thought of hearing it with se7en's voice!

the only problem is that apparently all five songs are very unlikely to be aired. i heard that usually only three songs are aired. <_<

EDIT:

a_thao4ever, you can find the answer to your question here.

whaaaaattttt?!?!?!?!!? i feel like hitting something...lol

that. cannot. happen. no. never.

if it does...imma murder my teddy T____T

jk.

i'm not really that voilent...

honest.

but really..i'll cry... :(

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LISTEN by Beyonce? YEAH!!! wow! that song has an excellent message for how he must befeeling when he was in the U.S.. if that's what he wants to tell the fans or the audience.. and Come Back To Me, all time favorite!

I am excited for this episode!!! Can't Wait!

i think he posted something about sketchbook on his twitter... couldn't read and understand.. used google but both of our Korean is fail..

And about how Se7en is being neglected by YG, i don't think that's the case.. i feel like YG and YGE is doing their best to put Se7en back to his status as before.. they're putting him on slots for variety shows, when we all know that other artists in YG rarely does when they come back.. radio shows, YB and Gummy, i think, didn't attend any radio shows.. and I agree on what cecilia said, Se7en is like starting/newbie in S.Korea right now..

Even though YG didn't post anything for SE7EN announcing his comeback but he did some interviews for SE7EN's comeback.. he told everyone the progress of his album and such..even though it's always the same and all.. but he did something, helping se7en, letting his fans know that he is coming back with a new album and style..

I feel like we're blowing all of this out of proportion.. 2NE1 and YB is big right now, so their fans will be excited and such so we'll hear it all over the internet.. the excitement and the hype..

If ever Se7en will release a full album and i am hoping he will, surely YG will announce something too.. coz we know that YG is unpredictable and he tends to drop surprises here and there.. So i will patiently wait for it..

I posted a .gif before.. and here are the photos in that particular .gif

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wow that looks like a very homey place...I see a couch, a bed, a tv lol but this pic looks old...wonder how his new apartment looks like...

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