[drama 2008] Park Jung Geum, Heavenly Beauty (woman Of Matchless Beauty) 천하일&#4

[gerryg]

JG is 41-ish. is that too old for having baby? not sure...

The truth is I come from a society that encourages couples to get marry and raise their family while they are young so 41-ish may not be too old.

but i think the point is, Yura accused KS of eager to bed JG no matter how old she is, but he won't touch YR like she's some disease.

Isn't she

[Guest shorti330]

its possible to have a baby- halle berry is 41 and shes having her first baby. but i think it is more dangerous to the child as mothers age increases. i dont think JG would want another baby... esp since she feels so guilty about what happened with her other son. she would prob wanna deal with taking care of the ones she already has.

im so confused...GS refused to marry Yura, and then all of a sudden they were married. what the heck happened while they were in america??

[gerryg]

its possible to have a baby- halle berry is 41 and shes having her first baby. but i think it is more dangerous to the child as mothers age increases. i dont think JG would want another baby... esp since she feels so guilty about what happened with her other son. she would prob wanna deal with taking care of the ones she already has.

im so confused...GS refused to marry Yura, and then all of a sudden they were married. what the heck happened while they were in america??

Maybe she'll do an Hally Berry

I too want to know what happen in America. I actually thought Yura got pregnant and after the two years they were going to show us their toddler. So since that is not what happened I am very curious about what did.

[Guest piano4112000]

Maybe she got him drunk and slept with him and he waking up in the morning realizing what had happened wanted to take full responsibilty for it. I don't know, I just think he was someway tricked into to it by Yura because he was madly in love with JG when he left, there is no way that has changed.

[gerryg]

Maybe she got him drunk and slept with him and he waking up in the morning realizing what had happened wanted to take full responsibilty for it. I don't know, I just think he was someway tricked into to it by Yura because he was madly in love with JG when he left, there is no way that has changed.

But what would he take responsibility for... she was a confessed tramp! You think she told him that she was pregnant and 1) it was really a lie or 2) she was and had a miscarriage.

I'm so shallow I can't think of any other reason he would marry her unless she said she will tell him where PJG's son is in exchange for marriage.

[Guest jojo]

Yes, l am also very curious to know what's changes his mind ? l hope the scriptwriter gives us an explanation later. l won't discount the fact that she did something especially when KS mentioned that the most disgusting thing about her is her lack of shame....just like an animal ? Is he referring to what happens between Yura and PJG's ex-husband or is he referring to something more.

l just finish watching epi 16, l am a bit shock by the change in PJG's behavior,

the scene where she tries her best to "spoil" YJ's conversation with his junior from his medical school and how she pretends that she is not well when YJ is about to go out for his date and worst, she actually waits for him to reutrn home from his date and confront him

. That is not the PJG l know from the lst part of this drama. She behaves like a woman in love..... Her feelings for YJ has certainly creep up on her without her realising it and l think this feeling has a stronger foundation than the brief romance (even though she trembles when she seats next to KS) she has for KS. Is that why she never thought about KS at all ? Not even once when she is all alone ? or has she totally block KS out of her mind? Perhaps l am angry with her for her lack of feelings for KS, l mean even now, l think about my ex-bf once in a while, l think is is just human to do so.

l like YJ's brother, he is so funny and so is PJG's mother and l am really keen to know how Yura and KS can come to term with their conflict. Actually, l am much more interested in them as a couple than PJG and YJ, that couple seems a bit predictable.

I'm so shallow I can't think of any other reason he would marry her unless she said she will tell him where PJG's son is in exchange for marriage.

Quite unlikely lah, because l don't see KS getting the information and l am sure he will be really furious if after marraige, Yura cannot keep her side of the bargain.

Pretending she is pregnant has a better chance.

[gerryg]

I think PJG has fallen for YJ because they lived together as family for the past 3 years. He is even helping her take care of her mother and raise her son. As far as GS and Yura it looks like the lived together for 2 years as enemies.

So it would be natural for GS to escape his misery and think about PJG all the time. He's just retreating to a time where he was happy and that is when he was with PJG. On the other hand PJG is busy surviving and does not have the luxary to retreat into a fantasy world.

About that animal thing ... the very fact that she can bodly face him after such a remark confirms that she is indeed shameless!

[Guest cococrust]

ep 12 c-sub

http://www.sendspace.com/file/liaza4

[Guest leishabyj]

Thank you dramaok for explaination. I'm following you in I hate you, but that's fine thread lately (from about ep 140). You are so amazing!

I have the same feeling with you, Jojo. I don't like the JG and JY storyline. It's upsetting. But I have to confess what gerryg said did make sence. They've live together almost three years.

Poor GS, then what would happen in his life? Can he live with who he loved eventually?

In another word, what the direction is this drama going on?

[Guest wls2948]

i think this drama is going down hill if the writer decides to pair YJ and JG together.....what's the point of this drama? GS will be the loser in this show looks like.....so sorry for him if he had to live the rest of his life unhappily with Yura..

[gerryg]

I still think PJG and Gs will get together again. Even if it is for a short time period.

[Guest jojo]

First l like to clarify that l am watching this whole drama without understanding a bit of Korean. What l understand is purely from what dramaok writes and the rest is purely guessing work, so what l am going to write may not be correct. Dramaok, please correct me if l am wrong in my assumptions.

l think the great mystery here is why KS marries Yura when he still carries a torch for JG ? Since there seems to be a lack of answer, we can only assume that Yura "tricks" GS into marrying her (sorry Yura, most of the viewers think you are guilty). Personally, l am not too sure because l don't find Yura being a scheming person (unlike her mother). She may be ill temper, wilful, "trampish" (hahaha...is there such a word?) but l have not seen her hatching a scheme to hurt JG (will touch on her seducing JG's ex later). So l think l will stick to my original thought that, after JG decline going to the US, he is pressure by his adopted parents/Yura's mother into marrying Yura. l really hope the scriptwriter gives us a satisfactory answer.

In epi 15 + 16, we see a loveless/sexless marriage between Yura and KS. If Yura has trick KS into marrying her then perhaps it is understandable why KS treated her so coldly. However, if KS enters into the marriage on his own will (can't use "free will" as he is probably pressured into it) then l think he should at least gives the marriage a try. l feel that he is being very unfair to Yura. l can see Yura trying very hard to please him but his answers to her queries are always short and curt, also he totally ignore her, prefers to read than to make conversations with her. If this is the beginning of their married life then,l can understand because GS needs time, he told Yura before that he needs time and l think it is GS's character too, he loves deeply and it will takes him a much longer time to "unlove" himself. However, if l get the time line correctly, it is a lapse of one or is it two years and if he still behaves this way and not making an effort to work out his marriage with Yura (especially, when Yura is trying so hard) then as a woman l really feel very sad for Yura and l really don't blame her for losing her cool. Unfortunately, Yura is also not a very good nature person either, she looses her cool and hurl hurtful remarks, mainly because l think she is very hurt by KS's altitude. However, l believe that Yura is a person who says hurtful and mean things when she is hurt, it is her defence, to pretend she is not hurt at all. This l believe is something she learns from young. Sadly, when she said hurtful things (especially about JG), it alienates KS more.....it is a horrible vicious circle which l feel only KS can breaks it. He has to make an effort to be kinder to Yura and to works towards this marriage. So unless l know the real reason for KS to marry Yura and l am assuming he marries her on his own will then l feel strongly that KS is being very selfish towards Yura, if he is punishing her for what she did to JG, then he shouldn't marry her at all because he is not being fair to Yura and more so to himself.

Yura, l don't dislike nor do l like her but as the drama unfolds l find myself feeling very sad and sorry for her. l believe she is what she is because of circumstances. l don't know when JG and her mother are being "chased" out of Mr Park's house but l believe it must be during the time when she is still young, otherwise, l believe she will have a better education and will be in a better positon than she is now. Also, l do recalled JG did said to Yura that she is young then too hence she don't realise that her treatment to Yura then isn't that right either. Anyway, before l get too long-winded, what l am trying to say is that l feel Yura starts as a young and innocent kid longing for a family, a sisterly love from PJG. Perhaps before her mother seduces Mr Park, they [PJG + herself] are playmates and she looks upon JG as a older sister she don't have. She must be so happy when her mother marries Mr Park but what she gets from PJG are just hurtful remarks.

She is also probably close to her mother and perhaps her mother has been telling her that what she is doing (which she probably did) is really for her (Yura) so that she can have a home, an education and lives comfortablely off, so she cannot understand why PJG treats her mother so badly. When she grows up, perhaps she begins to understand what her mother did but she would sticks to her mother because blood is thicker than water and also because they (both mother and child) have gone thru so much, so even though she tauts her mother for doing what she does (perhaps in a way she blames her mother for what she (mother) did to PJG and her mother) but the bottomline she still loves her mother (remember how glad she is when her mother returns home after she did a disappearing act ). And if it is true that her mother instructs her to seduce PJG's husband (can someone verify this point) , she may do it because she loves her mother and also her way of getting back at JG. It is like, "so let's see how high and mighty you are now, when l see you begging for your husband"...it is a moment of triumphant for her but l think her consciences do get to her hence her "wild" lifestyle in search for the happiness that she longing to receive. It is a case of on one hand she feels very terrible for her deeds she does but on the other hand she justify herself for her wrong doings..... maybe is not correct to put all the blames on others for her bad behavior but l believe to a large extend the circumstances have a lot to do with her bad behavior. l feel that Yura is a very vulnerable person, she is hiding behind that "big bad image" to protect herself from being hurt. Silly of her but l think that's the only she knows.

l am one of those who wants a KS/PJG pairing at the beginning of the drama but now, l really am not too sure especially so when l don't feel the same kind of love that JG has for KS. l can feel KS deep love for her but on her part it is always lukewarm. l don't see that kind of love in her eyes. Now, l will just leave it to the scripwriter to unfold the story his style.

However, l am a bit of surprise and disappointed with epi 16 (apart from what's happening to Yura and KS which kept me interested), disappointed at the way JG and YJ behave.....now epi 16 is really very k-drama....some viewers felt that it is like those daily morning drama, light hearted kind of comedy and that the style is so different from what they seen in Part I. l incline to agree with them, l sincerely hope that the scriptwrite will come up something better than this epi 16.

[Guest wls2948]

the only thing which keeps me going now is the "mystery" of KS and Yura's marriage........i suppose because this is a 40 episode drama so the writer had to punch in more twists and turns to drag the story ..

[Guest jojo]

Dramaok, are you able to verify for me if KS did said this to Yura when they were discussing about her wanting a baby towards the end of epi 16. This is just the gist of their conversation:

Yura : "Because l love you"

KS : If l didn't love you, l won't have marry you".

Did he actually said that ????????

If he did, l will be really upset that he is not doing his part to make this marriage work.

[Guest dramaok]

yeah his words caused quite a lot of confusion among PJG viewers in Korea too..

i think it just adds to the whole mystery... because it contradicts what we know about Kyeong-Soo..

i am still hopeful that things will be clearer as we go.. i think the writer has a way of dropping bombs when we don't expect.. for max affect. i for one am enjoying the turns of this drama because it's unpredictable..

this is the conversation from EP. 16 where the 'love' is mentioned...

YR: if i were Park Jeong-Geum, you would've asked her the woman you love to have your children!

KS: watch your language.

YR: why? i should push your button a little so you can be upset too. otherwise you'll forget what you and i talked about 10 minutes from now.

KS: --

YR: when i fight with you i suffer a whole day w/ my inside turned upside down, but you move on to other thoughts after just 10 minutes!

KS: is your goal in life to stir me?

YR: because i love you! even though you don't love me one bit.

KS: i too do not, not love you. if i didn't love you i wouldn't have married you.

YR: huh! you don't not love me? gee.. i love you too.. if you say it like that will someone beat you to death? you don't love me so you don't hate me, and you have no complaint and you have no desire to fight even. if i can just leave you alone then you'd be thankful..

KS: everytime i face you you torment me. how can i not avoid you then? let me live too.. let me live and breathe too.. (leaves)

YR: i didn't finish yet! where are you going!!! where!!!

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i think also.. this drama isn't about the romance between man and woman.. that might disappoint a lotta viewers and dissaude ppl from watching..

but for me... i think i won't be surprised if at the end Jeong-Geum ends up w/ neither.. and i won't be disappointed either.. because the journey to love..

is sometimes more memorable and satisfying than the end result. and for JG.. finding her lost son might be what will make her happier than any man in her life can offer.. just some thoughts.. sorry to spoil the party.

[Guest Soy]

From bug @ soshified.com

Yoona from SNSD will be appearing in Park Jung Geum, Heavenly Beauty sometime next week

Looking forward to it.

[Guest jojo]

Thanks dramaok for the clarification.

So he did said that......mmmmmm...this come as a great surprise and like you said it certainly contradicts the KS that we know. If he does loves her (since when??), so why is he treating her this way ? so many unanswer questions and l guess it is really pointness speculating, the scriptwriter probably surpise us anyway so l guess the best thing to do is really to be patient and wait for the drama to unfolds itself.

To me this drama is like a trilogy of JG's life, first part her brief but sweet romance with KS, second part a different type of romance with YJ and finding her son again and the 3rd and final part, coming to term with her relationship with her son and thus coming to term with her own father. At the end of it all, perhaps like what dramaok said, she might not ends up with either guys but experiencing all these make her life richer and she happier. Looking forward to epi 17 + 18

[Guest cococrust]

ep 13 c-sub

http://www.sendspace.com/file/j24sut

[Guest jojo]

MJ sii will be singing for PJG 's ost.

MJ will be singing '경수의 테마곡' (경수的主題曲 /Theme song of GS)

called '이별도 사랑이다' (離別也是愛 /Separation also means love).

The OST will be released on 8 April.

Looking forward to it * ^ ^ *

[Guest mandalaywith]

Kim Min Jong singing MBC Weekend Drama Park Jung Geum O.S.T

Drama Park Jung Geum O.S.T in singing to Theme song of Gyeong-Soo(kim Min jong) .Wow!

Song Name is "Parting also means love-이별도 사랑이다"

Drama Park Jung Geum O.S.T is 2008 April 8 in selling.

김민종, OST 참여로 5년만에 가수 복귀

김민종은 직접 '경수의 테마곡'인 발라드 '이별도 사랑이다'를 부르며 절절한 심경을 표현했다.

'천하일색 박정금' OST에는 김민종 외에 메인 테마곡 '질주'를 부른 인순이 등이 참여했으며, 4월 8일 발매된다.

Source- http://media.daum.net/entertain/broadcast/...mp;cp=hankookis

I will buying to Drama Park Jung Geum O.S.T.

cannot wait to Kim min jong song!

Kim min jong fighting~~!

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jojo

you is fast.ost i will share ost file.

Drama Park Jung Geum O.S.T CD song list.

CD1 [예약판매] 천하일색 박정금 (MBC 주말연속극)

번호 곡명 듣기

1 질주 (Main Title) - 인순이

2 그게 여자야 (박정금 역/배종옥 테마) - 인순이

3 이별도 사랑이다 (경수 역/김민종 테마) - 김민종

4 다 알아 (사공유라 역/한고은 테마) - 신디

5 사랑한 사람아 (Ending Title) - O.N

6 So Sweet - 박기영

7 사랑 - 최성일

8 열정 (feat.이블몽키,미스라진) - 인순이

9 이별도 사랑이다 Part2 (경수 역/김민종 테마) - 경성현

10 Happy Mother's Day

11 바람과 허수아비

12 따뜻한 얼음

13 사랑은 슬프다

14 Mother Earth

15 Loser

16 너를 지운다

17 사랑은 아니지만

18 가슴은 알고있다

19 So Sweet (Acoustic Ver.)