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E.L.F Are At It Again!

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Guest xiaochingu.

(directed towards person posted before me)^have you been reading ANYTHING that has been written? o_o

THIS ISNT ABOUT HENRY OK?

Those who are complaining that ELVES should be ELF, needs to STFU. You don't know how stupid you sound. The topic starter was only putting it in plural form--(I'm assuming you guys know proper English and went to school).

Aigoo. Those fans don't take everything into account when they're doing this protest. They're hurting that Henry guy and getting Henry fans pissed off. I feel bad for that Henry guy, all he wanted was a career in the entertainment business -___-"

PLURAL FORM?

ok E.L.F stands for

everlasting friends

so if we were elves

what would it be

everlasting VRIENDS?

oh please...

... Elves annoy the **** out of me!!!!!! What the hell?!?!?!

To be honest, I'm not a Suju fan but I did watch their Comeback perf and that Violin guy was the best part!!

OMG, they annoy me SO bad!

are you kididng me? "rolls eyes again and again"

im sure YOU and a whole bunch of other people here did NOT read a thing that was written

before you

thats right

OK your whole post was just so offensive i dont even know what to say

even if you have your views on things you didnt have to take it that far

ok sure e.l.f did over do things before

but it wasnt the MAJORITY of fans that did it

and no we arent asking you to pat them on the back for doing something mature

you have to look at WHAT THEY ARE STANDING FOR

cause this is a WHOLE DIFFERENT situation

i keep reading over and over again "poor henry..he doesnt deserve this"

ok yes i agree BUT HENRY IS NOT THE ONLY VICTIM HERE =_=

i also keep hearing "oh yea he should go to the different ent. he would do so much better as a soloist"

i love the guy ok? but i cant help but think you guys are giving him too much credit for what he does

he isnt the ONLY violinist in the world o_o

and so far thats the ONLY thing you guys have seen him do

so what gives you guys the right to say he has more talent than the

rest of super junior?

-one more thing (edits)-

can anyone confirm if he even played LIVE during super junior's comeback?

(sorry...im just not sure)

ok get this

IF HE WAS AS TALENTED AND GOOD AS YOU GUYS SAY HE IS

WHY IN THE WORLD DO YOU THINK LSM IS CONSIDERING HIM

TO BE PART OF A THIRTEEN MEMBER BOYBAND ANYWAY?

i think lsm knows what henry is capable of doing...and if he was really THAT good

he wouldnt be joining a SUB group of suju

what about the 13 other boys who actually were there FOR THE PAST TWO years working

their a**'s off for this LSM?

WHAT DOES HE IN TURN TELL THEM?

that SUJU is just going to be a rotating group?

they all worked SO HARD for what?..its to gain fans approval but what is it worth if they are only

going to be replaced by NEW GUYS the next year who TAKES the fanbase the title and everything

they worked so hard for WITHOUT having to go through EVERYTHING they did?

i also heard that suju is an unfair group, and that lsm is a BUSINESS man so of course

he would lie to them and that this is to gain money and whatever

but does thisJUSTIFY what he is doing?

answer that...DOES IT?

jeezes....im done with this thread.

(i topped a page)

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Guest winksassy

i like suju just fine right now with 13 people...and personally i think henry would do great as a solo act...or maybe sm should think into creating a group where each member plays an instrument so henry can be in there??

exactly! suju have enough member

SM should do that.

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Guest Mirae-chan

Wow, they're really nuts.. o_o;;

Poor Henry.. =\!!

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Guest bitter SOOweet

like bagazillion others have said

wow... overreaction much?

but the power of fans can go far. sheesh.

man so much sm anger / hatred

i never knew.

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Guest iheartporn

OK your whole post was just so offensive i dont even know what to say

even if you have your views on things you didnt have to take it that far

Quite honestly I don't care if I'm being offensive.

Do E.L.F care when they repeatedly show offensive behavior? No they don't.

So yeah, sorry if I'm not using the kid gloves when I discuss how outrageous you/they are.

The MAJORITY of E.L.F behave like the school girls they are.

I let history speak for itself. And they're past behavior overshadows one simple display of mature behavior.

The MOTIVE behind this is SELFISHNESS! E.L.F doesn't like how things are going so they throw a fit.

Yet no one still has ANY proof that Super Junior are against this.

No one has any proof that any members will be removed from the group.

Your all making assumptions and taking them as facts.

I'm sick of hearing "What about Super Junior" like I said before.

What about them? They aren't the ones getting bashed.

A sub group or an additional member effects nothing.

How will a Chinese SuJu effect the original group?

How would adding Henry effect the other members of SuJu?

It won't like I said before.

HanKyung has so much damn free time due to his visa issues that if he did go to a sub group you probably wouldn't even know he was missing.

Henry IF added to SuJu[?] would not effect the lack of attention the less popular members ALREADY receive. You all chose to ignore some members before all this talk of sub groups/additional members was brought up and you will continue to ignore them even if changes happen.

Those 2 arguments are crap.

Were not talking about the violinists of the world. Were talking about a person with great musical talent being added to a boy band that lacks very much in any musical abilities.

You've seen Super Junior do numerous amounts of things and the MAJORITY of the members suck at all of them.

Singing[excluding K.R.Y], acting, modeling,etc. I'm not blown the hell away nor is anyone else.

I've seen Henry do ONE thing so far and he did it AMAZINGLY!

Now lets compare that to all the "amazing" things suju are capable of. hmmm...

So yeah I think I have a very strong right to say who's more talented then who.

And I honestly don't want to bash Super Junior but I seriously see that some people give you no other choice.

You are proof of what I mean when I say this is about Henry. You sitting here picking him apart speaks volumes.

One word: Business

This whole thing is about business yet some people can seem to grasp that.

Why did LSM put Kyuhyun, Ryeowook, and Yesung in a big boy band if they are SOOO talented?

Why does SM continuously let their talents be overshadowed by non talented members such as Heechul or Leeteuk? Answer that.

It's because it's about business. Super Junior wasn't made for organizing great talented singers.

Super Junior was formed with mostly wasted trainees on a limb to captivate silly girls who are quick to obsess over any guys with a pretty face or silly personalities. And guess what? Sold. No money waste on training for all those years.

You all ate it up. Don't sit here and say that SuJu is about the talent and that's why you like them. It's not.

This is the reason why they were marketed as a rotating group.

Business is unfair. The music industry is hella unfair. But they all knew what they were getting when they signed up for this.

They KNEW they weren't titled as a permanent group.

Should I break out the tiny violin for your sad song?

Give me a break.

I'm not LSM's keeper or his maker.

I have no right, just like you to judge his business strategy.

Last time i checked he knew what the hell he was doing & still does.

And this is solely why he continues to rub this in the faces of E.L.F.

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Guest Miss Vivienne

I agree with you completely. What a disappointment. -a-

I'm very tired how ignorant and biased everyone's being.

READ OR I'LL INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE, PEOPLE. D:<

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Guest iheartporn

I'm very tired how ignorant and biased everyone's being.

READ OR I'LL INSULT YOUR INTELLIGENCE, PEOPLE. D:<

I blown away that you came to this thread, agreed with that post and then proceeded to put these two sentences together.

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Guest xiaochingu.

^i think you got me wrong totally...

i think henry has great talent definitely

and when he does debut as a performer (which i hope he does)

i will support him of course

but no i dont think people should be comparing his talent to super juniors

sure suju cant play any instruments

but that doesnt make them any less talented

have you seen henry sing? mc? act? you dont even KNOW what else he can do

so how does him playing a violin make him better than everyone else?

-edit- playing a 15 second solo even

how is that 15 seconds BETTER than the two years of what super junior has done?

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Guest Miss Vivienne

I blown away that you came to this thread, agreed with that post and then proceeded to put these two sentences together.

I wasn't quite talking about your post.

But the fact that everyone thinks Henry is somewhere sobbing in a corner.

ELF just doesn't want any new members. They're not out to kill him or boo him off stage.

Really, I understand what you're coming from with the annoying fangirly school girls but yeah...

It's all pretty controversial. -_^

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Guest iheartporn

Edit; Christ on a cracker. I'm mixing people up.

but no i dont think people should be comparing his talent to super juniors

sure suju cant play any instruments

but that doesnt make them any less talented

have you seen henry sing? mc? act? you dont even KNOW what else he can do

so how does him playing a violin make him better than everyone else?

Why not?

I've seen Super Junior do all these things and I'm fully aware what they are capable of, and like I said I'm not impressed.

And as for your edit; did you even try to make sense when you wrote it?

Henry has been playing the Violin for how many years of his life?

Yeah, but lets sum up his hard work in 15 sec solo.

I wasn't quite talking about your post.

But the fact that everyone thinks Henry is somewhere sobbing in a corner.

ELF just doesn't want any new members. They're not out to kill him or boo him off stage.

Really, I understand what you're coming from with the annoying fangirly school girls but yeah...

It's all pretty controversial. -_^

I'm not jumping on you for your statement. I just find it a little ridiculous that it's not aimed at both parties on this matter.

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Guest xiaochingu.

^honestly if you arent a fan of them why would you even bother arguing?

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Guest iheartporn

^honestly if you arent a fan of them why would you even bother arguing?

How do you know I'm not a fan?

Criticizing Super Junior's lack of talent automatically make me an anti? No. It doesn't. It simply makes me honest.

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Guest xiaochingu.

ok...thats really great of you

you are a fan of them yet you criticize to a point where you are bashing them

what characteristics about them are you a fan of exactly then?

you said they cant sing

you said they cant act and mc

WHAT ABOUT THEM are you a fan of?

i also wanted to say...

i think your posts are pretty insulting to ME

i wasnt directing my post to you (before)

i was talking about

ALL of the previous posts on this thread

and to say MY arguments are crap

is pretty low of you

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Guest pencilcasee.

It's amusing to read comments from people who totally don't get it and still try to argue their point :rolleyes:

I'm glad E.L.F is doing this and are doing it a civilized way. It's not overreacting at all to me. They're not only standing up in what they believe in, but they're also standing up for Super Junior. Henry is hurting yes, but Super Junior is hurting too. You have to keep in mind that E.L.F don't even know Henry. Heck, most of us hear haven't even seen Henry in action or know his personality. All we see is clips of him performing for a few seconds.

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Hm. I have to frown a bit on the views of both sides.

yes, we all love the artists that SM produces so why do they have to advance to China, trying to create another group with a name thats already been established? If they want to create a boyband in China, they should come up with a name for them besides "Super Junior-China" or whatever.. because yeah, theyll be loved anyway.

And then yeah.. ELFs + all fans (in Korea mostly) are usually a bit overwhelming... No one/nothing died when KyuHyun was added to the group.. It may take a little getting used to, but seriously.. Just because they wouldnt be happy with it.. Have they actually thought about what SuJu would feel about having another member added to their group? Who said theyd be opposed to it?

And also, popseoul can be a little aisjfoaisfj sometimes. Ive read some of their articles before and theyre so bias sometimes.

Regardless of these protests, SM should go on with their original plan because Super Junior badly needs talent in their group, but what do you think?

wthand? go die?

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Guest iheartporn

ok...thats really great of you

you are a fan of them yet you criticize to a point where you are bashing them

what characteristics about them are you a fan of exactly then?

you said they cant sing

you said they cant act and mc

WHAT ABOUT THEM are you a fan of?

i also wanted to say...

i think your posts are pretty insulting to ME

i wasnt directing my post to you (before)

i was talking about

ALL of the previous posts on this thread

and to say MY arguments are crap

is pretty low of you

LOL. Like i said it's honesty.

3 members of Super Junior can actually sing EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS! It's not a secret.

Why should I sit here and lie like the majority of SuJu members are known for their musical abilities? They aren't.

They're known for their outrageous personalities. They're entertainers and I'm entertained.

I'm also entertained by Clouds, animals, food...the list goes on. End of story.

To prove my "Super Junior devotion" should i write a dreamy essay on why they are OH SO SPECIAL? Why they deserve to be obsessed over? Why I like the rest of E.L.F should spend every waking moment thinking about them? How I should spend every cent i earn on Super Junior albums, posters,etc? Will I get my official E.L.F badge then? Get real.

Your post was aimed at everyone who opposed what you thought.

I'm one of the opposing so i replied.

If you don't like what I have/continue to say then don't read it.

It's amusing to read comments from people who totally don't get it and still try to argue their point :rolleyes:

I personally find amusing the people who come in here and try to put this stupid little protest on a "I have a dream" level .... Oh Hai, vickky

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Guest alius

Quite honestly I don't care if I'm being offensive.

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Singing[excluding K.R.Y], acting, modeling,etc. I'm not blown the hell away nor is anyone else.

I've seen Henry do ONE thing so far and he did it AMAZINGLY!

Now lets compare that to all the "amazing" things suju are capable of. hmmm...

One word: Business

This whole thing is about business yet some people can seem to grasp that.

Why did LSM put Kyuhyun, Ryeowook, and Yesung in a big boy band if they are SOOO talented?

Why does SM continuously let their talents be overshadowed by non talented members such as Heechul or Leeteuk? Answer that.

It's because it's about business. Super Junior wasn't made for organizing great talented singers.

Super Junior was formed with mostly wasted trainees on a limb to captivate silly girls who are quick to obsess over any guys with a pretty face or silly personalities. And guess what? Sold. No money waste on training for all those years.

You all ate it up. Don't sit here and say that SuJu is about the talent and that's why you like them. It's not.

This is the reason why they were marketed as a rotating group.

Business is unfair. The music industry is hella unfair. But they all knew what they were getting when they signed up for this.

They KNEW they weren't titled as a permanent group.

Should I break out the tiny violin for your sad song?

Give me a break.

I'm not LSM's keeper or his maker.

I have no right, just like you to judge his business strategy.

Last time i checked he knew what the hell he was doing & still does.

And this is solely why he continues to rub this in the faces of E.L.F.

^^^I agree wif u 200%. most of the member of suju are talentless yet get more attention than the talented member which i find it so ridiculous. oh well asian fans are weird. and wat wif the band that have 13 members in the first place. isnt that toooo much and yet adding one more isnt gonna kill anyone as long as all members still together. i just dont go wit the idea of 13 members in the first place anyway.

and before pple get offenced wif other's comment abt this issues. just have in mind that most of them are underage teenie so their state-of-mind isnt set straight kekekekeek

hav fun wif killin each other over this issue girls

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Guest minwoogrl

Since when did this discussion become a talent discussion? Since when has talent EVER mattered in the entertainment industry? NEVER. Some of the biggest stars have absolutely no talent. We all know Hyori, Minwoo, and other stars who I love, aren't talented in their particular field. These boys are entertainers at the most basic level and they do a d*mn good job at it too.

If Henry is to debut I hope he debuts in a different and separate group under a name other than super junior or super junior a, b, c, etc... If Henry is as superb as you guys say he is, then he would do much better in a new and smaller group. I personally support E.L.F.

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Guest 13miracles

And then yeah.. ELFs + all fans (in Korea mostly) are usually a bit overwhelming... No one/nothing died when KyuHyun was added to the group.. It may take a little getting used to, but seriously.. Just because they wouldnt be happy with it.. Have they actually thought about what SuJu would feel about having another member added to their group? Who said theyd be opposed to it?

Then you should go back a few pages to watch some of the videos posted to know how the boys feel :)

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