Yoo Seung Ho 유승호 ユ・スンホ 俞 承 豪

[debbiechan 54]

39 minutes ago, See Wong said:

Nope.. I don't think it will be that worst! I always wondering if he is a happy person or not! I think he is quite empty inside (lack of interest in most things) or insecure but not broken! he still enjoy his life! recently he is more open up himself than before! you can see his instagram he got more and more friends! not sure how good these friends will be but al least his interest expand! I do think he don't like to listen or been told what right or wrong! he spend all his childhood listening to adults what to do.. he got enough of its! and he did mention the adults hurt him when he was a child! inside of him.. he still has a child in him! did he not said he still young in his FM! he may has pain inside but I believed not too serious! hope I am right about it! 

 

Thanks for this. This makes sense. I am still very worried though. 

[debbiechan 54]

26 minutes ago, Berou said:

@debbiechan Sorry . I tried to carefully choose my words.

 

No need to apologize. I am just a worrywart. I go off worrying at the slightest thing.

 

 

26 minutes ago, Berou said:

 

... he doesn't want to please people for the "show". With him it's either take it or leave it. Hence he is so unncoventional and defies rules. But he works with a talent agency, which is a business. Every business wants to be profitable and  I believe no agency will be okay if one of the its talents persists on what he/she wants and keeps making bad choices. Bad choices equals no money and preventing the business to grow/flourish. Thus,  I don't think BS will agree with all his choices.

 

 Exactly. I love his unconventionality. I celebrate this quality in family members and friends. But business is business. He has SAID he wants to be an actor and he wants to be a successful one. To do that, he needs to be less unconventional and play smarter. If he doesn't, he doesn't get to act and we will see less and less of him. No one wants that. To fail at business and one's life's goals affects one's emotional health as well. His current business choices spell bad news all around. But no one can make this realization but himself.

[See Wong 197]

30 minutes ago, Berou said:

@debbiechan Sorry . I tried to carefully choose my words. I am right now very confused and have got many questions in my head. I feel different emotions regarding his dramas choices . It is kind of interesting to note that his dramas choices mirror his hobbies : dangerous and crazy. 

You've pointed it out well,  it is obvious he is not happy. When I look at him,  I only see a lonely man.  

I am also scared of this scenario,  him destroying his career. Think about it, how long will he still get offers if most of his projects become flops ? Investors will run away from his dramas and will not be willing to invest their money because they will think they will not get any profits. No investors= no filming. 

 

Reading your post made be conflicted,  I dont know what to think. So I am going to refrain from judging or giving my opinion.

Yeah I've always known he is that kind of person,  he doesn't want to please people for the "show". With him it's either take it or leave it. Hence he is so unncoventional and defies rules. But he works with a talent agency, which is a business. Every business wants to be profitable and  I believe no agency will be okay if one of the its talents persists on what he/she wants and keeps making bad choices. Bad choices equals no money and preventing the business to grow/flourish. Thus,  I don't think BS will agree with all his choices.

 

Maybe that is the reason why he choose BS company! BS allow thier act more freedom! we can actually see most of the talents in this company are in hiatus status! I hope I am wrong! another thing is.. It's might not be YSH own choice to choose SML! it's might be both agree with the choice! How do we know what BS thinking!? but.. if all his fans againts it! both YSH and BS will notice this is not a right choice! the best! they drop it! 

If the worst do happen! he pick this project! Its may harm his career but I don't think it will distroy him! he has almost twenty years of relation with the audience! and people know the real him is a nice person! If this not work out and flop badly!! he may go into hiatus for longer time.. and think hard about the mistake! come back with a success! let's not to be too negative! be positive and optimistic! or SML will change the male lead character to suit TV drama! maybe he is just a playboy not a person look down at women! not a sexist! 

[See Wong 197]

30 minutes ago, debbiechan said:

 

No need to apologize. I am just a worrywart. I go off worrying at the slightest thing.

 

 

 Exactly. I love his unconventionality. I celebrate this quality in family members and friends. But business is business. He has SAID he wants to be an actor and he wants to be a successful one. To do that, he needs to be less unconventional and play smarter. If he doesn't, he doesn't get to act and we will see less and less of him. No one wants that. To fail at business and one's life's goals affects one's emotional health as well. His current business choices spell bad news all around. But no one can make this realization but himself.

Like you said.. business is business! this will not be YSH own personal Idea! must have to be he and his company both agree with it! If BS and himself choose the project! It's must be a reason! hopefully a good reason! and the first project to work together! I dont think BS want to fail it! and YSH is the biggest asset  for BS company! If they really pick this Superstar miss Lee... something might have to be change to suit YSH! they dont want to harm his career too!

[MrsYeoWoon 151]

6 hours ago, See Wong said:

Yes, that another sad sence he forgot his date with In-ah and went back to his old house, sitting infront of his door!! that sence so sad!! 

Both Jin Woo and Harry lost thier memory in the end!! but Jin Woo make me feel sadder! maybe It's a good ending! his extraordinary good memory gave him more painful than happiness! Harry.. I still think he is pretending he lost his memory! but think about it!! both still alive but the road infront of them will be sorrow and difficult! Harry has done a lots of mistake and bad things so he deserve in some extent! Yeo Woon die tragically but at least he no need to suffer his life till the end and he is living painfully and choose to end his own life! but Jin Woo.. he just pure bad luck! he lost his family! everybody look at him like a dirt because of his father! he cannot give his father a justice!! he is a good person and so pure and innocent!! he just tragic! 

Sigh. Dont cry Some endings are just sad like that and hit us really hard. Harry and Yeo Woon's endings were sad and  painful in their own ways. I'm afraid I dont think Harry Yeo Woon deserved the endings they got because I  understood their motivations ..both had different ways of reaction to their negative circumstances , one turned psychotic and lashed out in pain, other gave his life but yes you are right poor Jin Woo only got bad luck. True I also feel Harry was faking to lose his memory in the end but Jin Woo wasnt.Not entirely i think. Jin Woo wasnt hated by everyone though, he got justice and In Ah chose to follow him. It was really sweet of In ah to follow him even with his memories gone..he wasnt left completely alone atleast. In Ah was so sweet and loyal I'm sure she'd have loved and comforted him till the end, the ending was an open one and both walked the same path together . Well that was the only  bright part I could find in that sad ending , maybe u see it too? Cheer up and think that Jin Woo forever had someone beside him who did not hated him and loved and supported him forever.

[MrsYeoWoon 151]

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[Berou 13,042]

@MrsYeoWoon and @debbiechan, you both misunderstood my words.  I referred to his career and not to himself. I talked about his dramas choices and how he seems weird, crazy and suicidal in regards to them. Suicidal because one wonders/worries if he will kill/destroys his career if continues on in this way. 

And his previous agency being dark and he  chose to flee from it ?  Please don't spread rumours. These is nothing indicating that he had a hard time in his previous agency because he was surrounded by negative people. Do you know at least who was his former CEO/manager ? He is the one who discovered YSH and stayed besides him  for 20 years. He was like a big brother to YSH, YSH called him my manager hyung. When he had FMs or other importants events,  he accompanied him. If you look at some old pics you're going to see him. So he was very supportive and took care of YSH for such a long time.  And those serious and depressive dramas were the result of wrong advice, YSH was adviced to act in melo genre to shed off his child actor image and be considered as an adult actor. 

[MrsYeoWoon 151]

@Berou In that case I have edited my post too cuz I dont wanna be misunderstood either ( cuz my point too was that he isnt self suicidal, just rebellious / tryina break free from his past image etc etc). I was not spreading rumours, I know some of  the history yes, I was only presuming that things might not be well as of late with his previous agency (cuz agree or not Korean agencies are dark, so many stories out there about so many of them, we arent there we dont know and if we exclude the manager hyung we dont know what exactly things were like with the whole agency off camera ). I was only presuming the possibility that maybe things werent well lately, he needed change and  thats why he left the agency when contract ended.  To be clear I am not/was not spreading rumours, it was/is not my intention, just my presumption.  Lets just hope YSH  finds stability soon and separates his personal and professional lives , gives us a good project in near future, his career doesnt suffers from suicide and we all enjoy years of his talent/acting happily everafter. We are all worried, even I am, you already know how I wasnt in favour of him doing INR and MSH but we shouldnt let all our hopes go. He said he wants to play a villain. That ought to give some hope that he is willing to change the way he is walking on/ willing to change his choices if something worth it comes his way. Its a new management company  he probably has more freedom now and hopefully things might work out in his favour in future. I dont wanna see him play a 2nd lead or an OTT villain but a strong grey character like that of LJG from Moon lovers  with a happy ending wont hurt. LJG got international stardom even tho the show didnt do well in Korea. Lets just hope something like that happens for YSH, he gets the opportunity, luck and stroke of enlightment soon and his career soars. Fingers crossed.

[Berou 13,042]

7 hours ago, debbiechan said:

He has SAID he wants to be an actor and he wants to be a successful one. To do that, he needs to be less unconventional and play smarter

I think he has already started to be less unconventional. He has opened an instagram account when in fact he had said several times he was against it. That's one step forward. Now he is into romcoms but I don't think he fell in love with the genre or has a deep interest in romcoms. As you know romcoms are loved by a lot of fans, especially international fans and are more mainstream. Thus, he probably did romcoms to reach a larger fanbase. Hopefully, he will learn to pick the right mainstream projects, he still has a long way. 

 

7 hours ago, See Wong said:

Maybe that is the reason why he choose BS company! BS allow thier act more freedom! we can actually see most of the talents in this company are in hiatus status! I hope I am wrong! another thing is.. It's might not be YSH own choice to choose SML! it's might be both agree with the choice! How do we know what BS thinking!? but.. if all his fans againts it! both YSH and BS will notice this is not a right choice! the best! they drop it! 

If the worst do happen! he pick this project! Its may harm his career but I don't think it will distroy him! he has almost twenty years of relation with the audience! and people know the real him is a nice person! If this not work out and flop badly!! he may go into hiatus for longer time.. and think hard about the mistake! come back with a success! let's not to be too negative! be positive and optimistic! or SML will change the male lead character to suit TV drama! maybe he is just a playboy not a person look down at women! not a sexist! 

I don't think BS  will even take the risk to harm his image. Yes,they can change the webtoon adaption but  the drama is once again in the hands of wrong people. So I worry a lot. Indeed if YSH is considering it, BS must be agreeing with his choice. That's going to be his worst romcom if he confirms. 

[debbiechan 54]

I can already see the tension of waiting affecting everyone! Like I said before, I wish we could fast forward time like we can fast foward parts in a drama but I guess we have to be patient!

 

Then of course, if he takes this romcom, there will be the dread of HOW BAD will it be--the drama itself and the aftermath.

 

Yes, @Berou I do remember on several occasions YSH saying good things about his previous agency. I felt warmth there- YSH radiates warmth towards people he's near. That is what he does. He forms attachments. I like that about him. I'm certain he's beloved by most people who are around him too. But again, business is cutthroat. He is growing up in an especially rough business. I wish the best for him. He's so smart--I hope he does well.

 

To change subject! Earlier we were talking about the fates of Jin Woo, Harry and Woon. I do think Jin Woo's made the least Kdrama sense. There's a Kdrama rule that once you kill someone (as in illegal murder not self defense or in defense of others) you almost always doomed. Not always but often.  Jin Woo was a total hero, c'mon. I saw all of YSH's characters as savable--his acting makes them particularly sympathetic.  I saw Come and Hug Me not long ago  and ( quasi spoiler) someone who is indirectly responsible for a lot of deaths gets off scott free? I fumed. Because Yeo Woon should have been freed if this could happen. He tried to save people all along and tried to save his own life in the next to last episode and was only triggered to suicide in that poorly written, plot-hole ridden final ep. I fully believe all suicides are preventable, and one of the things I HATE most in Kdrama are melodramatic, romanticized, unnecessary suicides in a country where the suicide rate is so high.

 

Jin Woo  losing his memory for the sake of an artistic parallel with his father was as stupid as Yeo Woon impaling himself the way his father did for a similar artistic parallel. Character development and growth, from a writer's view, is more important that sucking audience sympathy and milking  tears with easy pretty parallels. Unfortunately this sort of thing is a bane with Kdrama--not all dramas do this, the younger writers do this a lot, the lesser dramas do this a lot.

[Berou 13,042]

On 5/30/2019 at 11:12 AM, MrsYeoWoon said:

@Berou In that case I have edited my post too cuz I dont wanna be misunderstood either ( cuz my point too was that he isnt self suicidal, just rebellious / tryina break free from his past image etc etc). I was not spreading rumours, I know some of  the history yes, I was only presuming that things might not be well as of late with his previous agency (cuz agree or not Korean agencies are dark, so many stories out there about so many of them, we arent there we dont know and if we exclude the manager hyung we dont know what exactly things were like with the whole agency off camera ). I was only presuming the possibility that maybe things werent well lately, he needed change and  thats why he left the agency when contract ended.  To be clear I am not/was not spreading rumours, it was/is not my intention, just my presumption.  Lets just hope YSH  finds stability soon and separates his personal and professional lives , gives us a good project in near future, his career doesnt suffers from suicide and we all enjoy years of his talent/acting happily everafter. We are all worried, even I am, you already know how I wasnt in favour of him doing INR and MSH but we shouldnt let all our hopes go. He said he wants to play a villain. That ought to give some hope that he is willing to change the way he is walking on/ willing to change his choices if something worth it comes his way. Its a new management company  he probably has more freedom now and hopefully things might work out in his favour in future. I dont wanna see him play a 2nd lead or an OTT villain but a strong grey character like that of LJG from Moon lovers  with a happy ending wont hurt. LJG got international stardom even tho the show didnt do well in Korea. Lets just hope something like that happens for YSH, he gets the opportunity, luck and stroke of enlightment soon and his career soars. Fingers crossed.

Saying his previous agency was shady/ dark is one thing, saying there was some bad blood between him and his previous agency is another thing.  Both cannot be proven as of now, and I really doubt that his previous agency was into some shady stuff as you've stated. Indeed we don't know the behind the scenes and we will never know perhaps. It's unfortunate that YSH didn't do an interview to give some insight about his departure from San Ent.  But I'm not surprised, he's living up to his character. He didn't even say a word about it at his FM. So we are left with guesses. One can guess with certainty that his departure had to do with the poor performance of his dramas&movies and his struggles to secure his status as an adult actor.

I think it's dangerous to make such speculations even though you don't want to spread rumours. I am not denying that maybe things weren't well with his agency but it's better to be cautious when you post such comments on a public forum where everyone can read them. 

I don't mind him playing second leads or villains as long as his projects and his characters are good/solid. But I know not everyone thinks like me and if one day YSH plays a villain in a drama, everyone will wonder what's wrong with him . He has higher chances to play a villain in a movie since he is less active in the movie industry. The strong grey characters that you like are very rare, for koreans it's either black or white : you're either a villain or a hero. LJG got extremely lucky to play such a complex character with many layers. What YSH is lacking right now is not international stardom - he got it through I am not Robot - he needs domestic stardom. Let's hope he will do a project that will make him popular in Korea and brings to him better projects. 

 

On 5/30/2019 at 12:28 PM, debbiechan said:

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To change subject! Earlier we were talking about the fates of Jin Woo, Harry and Woon. I do think Jin Woo's made the least Kdrama sense. There's a Kdrama rule that once you kill someone (as in illegal murder not self defense or in defense of others) you almost always doomed. Not always but often.  Jin Woo was a total hero, c'mon. I saw all of YSH's characters as savable--his acting makes them particularly sympathetic.  I saw Come and Hug Me not long ago  and ( quasi spoiler) someone who is indirectly responsible for a lot of deaths gets off scott free? I fumed. Because Yeo Woon should have been freed if this could happen. He tried to save people all along and tried to save his own life in the next to last episode and was only triggered to suicide in that poorly written, plot-hole ridden final ep. I fully believe all suicides are preventable, and one of the things I HATE most in Kdrama are melodramatic, romanticized, unnecessary suicides in a country where the suicide rate is so high.

 

Jin Woo  losing his memory for the sake of an artistic parallel with his father was as stupid as Yeo Woon impaling himself the way his father did for a similar artistic parallel. Character development and growth, from a writer's view, is more important that sucking audience sympathy and milking  tears with easy pretty parallels. Unfortunately this sort of thing is a bane with Kdrama--not all dramas do this, the younger writers do this a lot, the lesser dramas do this a lot.

My bad, I didn't want to ruin the mood here. My apologies.

 

I always say Jin Woo is a martyr. His fate was cruel and unfair, and as you've stated it, it his alzheimer didn't make any sense. The writer wanted a stupid  symbolic parallel. SJW was a true hero and very pure, he fought against the corruption and injustice with law, he didn't stoop low doing shady business to bring down Nam Gyu Man nor he  became revengeful. His thirst for justice could have clouded his judgement and made him lose reason for an instant. I am sure he wanted so much to kill Nam Gyu Man for what he had done to his family but he restrained himself. Even when he became sick, he remained sane and he succeeded in  putting NGM behind the bars before he lost his memory.  My heart aches when I think about how much he suffered from childhood ( he lost his brother and his mother in a car accident) to adulthood ( he lost his father and his memory). There was truly not even a single moment where he was happy, his life was filled with unfotunate events.  Despite having such a cruel fate, he protected his heart and didn't let it to be rotten by evilness. He remained pure until the end. 

[See Wong 197]

On 5/31/2019 at 1:55 PM, Berou said:

Saying his previous agency was shady/ dark is one thing, saying there was some bad blood between him and his previous agency is another thing.  Both cannot be proven as of now, and I really doubt that his previous agency was into some shady stuff as you've stated. Indeed we don't know the behind the scenes and we will never know perhaps. It's unfortunate that YSH didn't do an interview to give some insight about his departure from San Ent.  But I'm not surprised, he's living up to his character. He didn't even say a word about it at his FM. So we are left with guesses. One can guess with certainty that his departure had to do with the poor performance of his dramas&movies and his struggles to secure his status as an adult actor.

I think it's dangerous to make such speculations even though you don't want to spread rumours. I am not denying that maybe things weren't well with his agency but it's better to be cautious when you post such comments on a public forum where everyone can read them. 

I don't mind him playing second leads or villains as long as his projects and his characters are good/solid. But I know not everyone thinks like me and if one day YSH plays a villain in a drama, everyone will wonder what's wrong with him . He has higher chances to play a villain in a movie since he is less active in the movie industry. The strong grey characters that you like are very rare, for koreans it's either black or white : you're either a villain or a hero. LJG got extremely lucky to play such a complex character with many layers. What YSH is lacking right now is not international stardom - he got it through I am not Robot - he needs domestic stardom. Let's hope he will do a project that will make him popular in Korea and brings to him better projects. 

 

My bad, I didn't want to ruin the mood here. My apologies.

 

I always say Jin Woo is a martyr. His fate was cruel and unfair, and as you've stated it, it his alzheimer didn't make any sense. The writer wanted a stupid  symbolic parallel. SJW was a true hero and very pure, he fought against the corruption and injustice with law, he didn't stoop low doing shady business to bring down Nam Gyu Man nor he  became revengeful. His thirst for justice could have clouded his judgement and made him lose reason for an instant. I am sure he wanted so much to kill Nam Gyu Man for what he had done to his family but he restrained himself. Even when he became sick, he remained sane and he succeeded in  putting NGM behind the bars before he lost his memory.  My heart aches when I think about how much he suffered from childhood ( he lost his brother and his mother in a car accident) to adulthood ( he lost his father and his memory). There was truly not even a single moment where he was happy, his life was filled with unfotunate events.  Despite having such a cruel fate, he protected his heart and didn't let it to be rotten by evilness. He remained pure until the end. 

 

For the whole month of June! no one has say anything or update any news!! Today I see something new!!

Yes, Mr Yoo went out having fun with different type of car! I wonder if he planning to works this year!

 

 

Now!! I am not sure if I am more happy he did not pick a project or he pick up Super star Miss Lee!! I think I am getting more disappointed that he's not going to do any proper job other than having fun with his cars!

I really cannot give a like when I see this photo! He is really quite busy having fun! unfollow some friends in his instagram and follow more after that!! included Cole Sprouse!!?? what!! not a good inspiration for me!! then Camila Carbello! ok.. this one better!! but he never update his own when he is busy following these people! oh.. Mr Yoo, please go to works! maybe you have no need to works!! but.. carry on like this will not give you a good images!

I knew @Berou dont like me mention other names! but I just want to say how Lee Je Hoon respect his works! and love his works! he is works after works and volunteering some charity works with Oxfam in UK! promoted Incheon airport! as an ambassador to Japan! I respect him more after his audio book for Norwegian Wood! ( I love books) I really wish YSH will works harder and give us some good drama or movies! If only i can wish!

 

[debbiechan 54]

I see that Warrior Baek Dong-soo has started streaming again on Kokowa and is available to American audiences again! I own the DVD, but now that VIKI has acquired the rights i can legally watch it on my old laptop and see all the audience comments on the screen (always hilarious--and most of the comments on this drama are about how beautiful Yoo Seung Ho is---I haven't watched the saddest parts yet, not ready!)

 

Oh Seung-ho, my dear boy, what are you driving on the side of a cliff now? That thing looks like a bumper car and a motorcycle had a baby! 

[Berou 13,042]

@See Wong I understand your feelings. It's very frustrating to see him not being fully committed to his acting career. He has chosen to do one work per year and that's it. He is not interested in doing extra activities besides dramas /movies, when he wraps up a project he goes into hiding. He is content with that.

There was nothing, no updates from him in June. Not hearing any casting news doesn't feel good. We dont know whether he is still reviewing Superstar MissLee,  if a good offer was on the table we would have already heared about it. 

[See Wong 197]

1 hour ago, Berou said:

@See Wong I understand your feelings. It's very frustrating to see him not being fully committed to his acting career. He has chosen to do one work per year and that's it. He is not interested in doing extra activities besides dramas /movies, when he wraps up a project he goes into hiding. He is content with that.

There was nothing, no updates from him in June. Not hearing any casting news doesn't feel good. We dont know whether he is still reviewing Superstar MissLee,  if a good offer was on the table we would have already heared about it. 

Thanks for your kind words! Yes, I am truly frustrating! in July now.. maybe no works for 2019!

maybe I shoudn't have care too much about it! Thanks again @Berou for understanding and let me shout out loud!  

[rahma92 2,112]

His hair 

 

[rahma92 2,112]

I wonder what He's doing? filming CF?

 

[rahma92 2,112]

 

[Berou 13,042]

@See Wong , looks like he has listened to your rants and decided to come out of his cave  

 

@rahma92 no, I dont think so. Probably *another hot * magazine shoot . I cant wait for it !! Me thinks it's weird he has dyed his hair without cutting it, it is suspicious. I really hope his long hair is for his next role. And they seem to be even longer than  2 months ago !! He is purposelly letting them grow.

 

 

He has rekindled with his old * and safer* hobby,  piano 

 

 

[See Wong 197]

9 hours ago, rahma92 said:

His hair 

 

 

Hehehe I am not so sure about his hair too, maybe not a good photo..   but I always thought he has Won Bin vibe! there are a few male actor look really good with long hair, Won Bin and Takayu Kimura was one of the few! I want to see that on YSH too.. I think he will look really good!