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  1. 8 minutes ago, Green Chilli said:

    she has to see husband cut ties first for any further improvement.

     

    so yes she needs time , she cannot switch off her agony anger and be lovey dicey again.

    I guess the husband needs time too, because he also cannot switch off his love and excitement from the thought of being a father.

     

    My point is, there needs to be give-and-take in any relationship.

     

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  2. 8 minutes ago, Green Chilli said:


    She can follow FIL advice only when she knows things are down between husband and mistress. Husband is postponing breakup , she asked him

    Multiple times to have a clean breakup but he keeps saying next day , next week . So how can wife let go.

     

    and PIL cannot be trusted they are on sons side .

     

    once she can trust that husband has truly let go then only she will be able to follow any good will suggestions not when husband has a sour face because he is unable to meet mistress 

    If she cannot trust any of them (husband and PIL), isn't it better to just cut ties with them? Why torture herself staying in that kind of connection? 

     

    So, are you saying that her wish has to be fulfilled first, before she will do the things that people are requesting from her? Things have to be done her way and on her terms?

     

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  3. Interesting that almost all of the discussion is about 30s couple... I do wonder why...

     

    Anyway, I form my opinions based on what I've heard and seen in real life around me, then sharing my thoughts here for those who are interested. You're free to ignore my posts if they're not to your liking. I would never know anyway who actually read them, LOL...

     

    I have a distant relative (my older generation), the husband slept with the sister of his wife. In their home. At that time, the unmarried sister was living with them. It was a really big house, so it's not like they were forced to have close interactions and thus develop feelings. Eventually when it became known, wife chose to divorce him and left the house to them. I heard she was super duper mad and upset (of course!), but she still chose to leave. She is fine on her own now, because she herself is a strong capable woman who can make money by herself without having to depend on the husband. When that happened, the kids were around teens. Now, husband still with the sister at that same house, and they have their own kids. Children from first wife have left also, for studies elsewhere, and because all have grown up. Can you just imagine how awkward it is if there were a family reunion. 

     

    Another case, also a relative, my generation but older in age. Wife actually barged into a hotel room and caught the husband red-handed with another woman. Their youngest kid was barely a toddler at that time. Wife chose to forgive and they remain married (with no other scandal heard) until now. That youngest kid is almost finished with college now. The incident is never mentioned again ever, and I guess that's how they are able to keep going with the marriage. 

     

    Back to our drama. If BHR wants to remain in the marriage, she needs to not keep digging this thing up and reminding everybody about the incident. Vent her anger now if she must, let it all out and then move on, whether staying in the marriage and try to salvage it, or just let go by divorcing her unfaithful husband. People around her has given her advice but she refuses to listen and insists on her opinions and her ways. Her FIL came with good intention and calmly advised and reminded her that "Even the nicest things get old when mentioned often. Let it slide and don't dig the matter back up whenever SH gets on your nerves.... She is not his wife. Forget about it as of today and try mending your relationship.Yet she kept shooting him down (the way she often shot PSH down), until FIL was so upset to think "Would it kill her not to talk back once in a while?" He also said "Take it as a learning experience and move on"   I thought the FIL visit was very kind and loving gesture towards her. I feel that it's good and probably intentional that he did not announce his visit beforehand because the impact will be different when BHR is already psyching herself what to talk about to the FIL. It's the time for him to convey his thoughts on the problem, not hers.

     

    ~ Don't dig the matter up - That failure is not a weapon to be used against your husband whenever there is a quarrel. And I can guarantee, there will be many disagreements down the road of marriage.

    ~ Try mending your relationship - This is the key thing that BHR should concentrate on, but she does not want to. I wonder what is it exactly that she wants from PSH?... Well, actually I kind of have a good guess of what she wants, which she will not stop grilling PSH (even her PIL included) until she gets it, that is to meet SW and to probably slap her or pull her hair, or at the very least to scold her and humiliate her. Yes, that's the kind of character that she's been portrayed by how the writer wrote her, and that's the reason why PSH will never let BHR meet SW at all cost. I am guessing BHR will never let go of PSH until she gets to meet and vent her anger on SW. She is holding onto PSH and her marriage for the wrong reason.

     

    So, if you were BHR's friend, what advice would you give her? Mine is pretty much the same as the FIL. Stay in the marriage if you want, but let the matter go, don't dig it up again, and mend the relationship. Or the other option, divorce your husband and live a better life of freedom.

     

    No one wins in the blaming game.

     

     

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  4. 9 hours ago, Pretti said:

    I disgree with your opinion, you use the baby as a pressure for the public to support cheating.

    No problem. I don’t mind people disagreeing with me. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. But I should say it again that I do not support cheating, which I clearly mentioned in my previous post. 
     

    9 hours ago, Pretti said:

    Like instead of blaming the husband and his mistress now the public need to ignore their faults to care for baby?

    I am not sure the public means the general public, or the public means the people here in soompi. Anyway, what value/benefit can “keep blaming” bring? Besides, it’s really none of the public business about what happened, but BHR herself. If she choose to keep blaming them, she will never find happiness. I do not wish for her to remain in a loveless marriage. 
     

    9 hours ago, Pretti said:

    Cheating is bad but you will be fine if you have a baby? Because the public will accept your action for the sake of your baby?

    Just as here in soompi there are diverse opinion, I am sure in the general public, there will be people who accept and people who don’t. But again, it’s really none of the public business what went on in a marriage but the married couple themselves. 

     

    9 hours ago, Pretti said:

    they even have a baby unlike other cheating couples.

    They have a baby because it was unplanned. They’re not pro. Unlike the other two pairs of cheaters, who talked and discussed and planned their cheating. They probably already prepared condoms because they need to make sure no baby is involved so they can continue their affairs. 
     

    9 hours ago, Pretti said:

    And you see they said they regret but do they really feel that? They still meet each other and they don't want to stop that.

    Yes, from what we’re shown so far, I really think they feel regret. They still meet because they’re still discussing the solution. I do believe if there was no baby, they would’ve cut ties already as BHR requested. But this is a drama, of course there has to be some dramas to make it interesting and make viewers continue watching. 

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  5. 13 hours ago, Pretti said:

    I still don't understand why you hope a happy ending for 30's husband and his mistress. Isn't it a sign to show that you support cheating? All the man and their mistress in this drama don't deserve happy ending for themselves. 

    Since I mentioned that I am rooting for PSH and SW to be together, I guess I am one of those suspected to be supporting cheating.


    Supporting cheating means encouraging cheating. I don’t support nor encourage cheating. If a friend asked me if he/she should cheat or not, my answer will be a firm NO!, and possibly with a smack on the head depending on how close we are.

     

    However, things like infidelity happens more often than we thought, and when that happened, the best way around it is to think rationally, calmly, and find best solutions for all involved, especially when an unborn baby is involved. Stewing in anger and revenge is entirely useless, and will only leave that person more battered than before. 
     

    I only am rooting for PSH and SW because from what we’re shown so far, I see that they didn’t really mean to enter into a relationship. They have been apologetic and trying not to create further hurt, but unfortunately a baby is involved, and they have to factor that in the resolution they’re coming up with. Unlike the other two cheating couples, who knowingly and actively committed infidelities, with no regrets shown. I wish for these two cheating couples to suffer. But... even if it’s only for the sake of their respective children, I would still support reconciliation of the husbands and wives. For the children’s sake, and if the wives are willing. 

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  6. 7 hours ago, Green Chilli said:

     

    and why does a pregnant lady needs so much care that a mistress has to meet the mother of PSH , too much ... pregnancy is not a disease .

    Being pregnant in your 40s is very high risk. His mother was shocked too to find out this is the first pregnancy. 
     

    What’s done is done. It wasn’t exactly his choice to have a baby, so he has to make the best decisions now for everyone’s sake. He cannot undo whatever that happened and wallowing over it will lead to nowhere. Just like BHR keeps hammering his mistake over him while he was getting dressed, they will never move on to a happier healthier relationship. What I am seeing is that she intends to use that card to control him and make him give in to her demands. That will not make a good marriage. I also cannot remember she reflecting on herself why their marriage has become like so. Sure she cried, sure she is stressed out until ulcer, but we don’t know the reason for those. Was she crying over the loss of love from her husband, or that she is pitying herself? Was she stressed out because her marriage is falling apart, or that she will have to face the shame as a divorcee? We don’t know. So she could be a selfish person too, who only thinks of herself and her well-being. We don’t know until it is further revealed to us in the story. 
     

    People fall in love and out of love. That’s the reality. Some people choose to remain in unhappy marriage for various reasons, personal or pressures from society. Some choose to go on separate ways, amicably or hostilely. 

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  7. I finally watched ep.1-2 of season 2 properly today. My favorite character of the drama atm is PSH’s mother. She is a good wife and a good mother, though not flawless. 
     

    Anyway, I am rooting for the PSH to be able to get divorced and unite with Song Won in marriage. What I see is that he sincerely wants the best way out for everyone. He is willing to stay married to BHR and be her slave as long as he gets to see his child once in a while. His whole pleading with his mother to help SW out is so that he could keep his promise to BHR to cut ties with SW, be it maybe only for duration of pregnancy. At least he feels bad enough to not stress out BHR anymore by complying to her demands. I don’t see that as being meek. It’s just that BHR is way too dominant and aggressive. Sorry, but the scene of her eating alone at home, I sense a nasty scheming from her with regard to what she has proposed to her in-laws. She knows she could never get to see SW through PSH so she is using the in-laws so that she could have access to SW. It’s not difficult to imagine what she might do while confronting SW. 

     

    PSH is not being weak but he is trying to make the best arrangements for SW and their child. I consider that as being responsible. He could’ve just leave as SW kept asking him to, but he didn’t. He bothered to take time and effort to make sure everyone is happy. Of all the three mistresses, I can still tolerate SW because she is the only one who is aware and bothered by the fact that the miracle she is experiencing is bringing hurt to another person. And many times she pushed PSH away from her. She only wants the baby, but undeniably moved by PSH’s care as well. 
     

    It’s unfortunate that some of the translations on Netflix paints a different picture of what is being conveyed. One example is when PSH was pleading with his mother to help care for SW and baby.

    ~ English subs:How can she (BHR) be my priority right now? I am willing to take whatever punishment there is. The baby did nothing wrong though”   
    ~ Chinese subs: Right now we cannot only care about HR alone. Whatever the retribution and punishment, let me be the one to bear it. The baby has done nothing wrong.”

    Of course I don’t know which translation is more accurate to the original language, but my point is they give different perceptions of the person PSH. Which is yet another reason why we have such diverse/opposing views here on the characters in this drama. 
     

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  8. 4 hours ago, wildcherry said:

    I felt nauseated watching him making food with his mistress, when he never make a drink for his wife.

    O gosh, I was so annoyed too with him cooking, especially when he bragged that he is good in making mandoo! Why didn’t he ever make it at home before? That is so troublesome to make, I don’t even like to do it because of the mess I have to clean up later. I am a one-pan kind of person when it comes to cooking. 

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  9. I voted “other” for Cha Sol’s mom appearance.
    At first I was super annoyed with her, especially after seeing the preview. But because we have been seeing more stuff happening in the palace, I am hoping with her appearing, we’ll get to see more of the family issues being resolved. And of course, her presence will only strengthen our OTP’s love and feelings for each other. 

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  10. 13 minutes ago, lebeaucouple said:

    Unfortunately i did not watch this show "Sell you haunted house" because i found it too boring to watch many ghosts. What are the drama you are watching now?

    Have you tried watching though? It’s quite well-written in my opinion. Lots of touching moments with each case. 
    I am watching quite a few now: Bossam, Racket Boys, Mine, Gumiho, Doom...

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  11. 5 hours ago, airgelaal said:

    There is nothing that can guaranty a beautiful marriage. Both partners must work hard to have it, but not always its enough. You don't have to tolerate things and lose yourself. It's not worth it.

    I agree that we shouldn’t lose ourselves trying to please other people. But wouldn’t trying to cook (for example) count as working hard to make the marriage more beautiful? What are things that can be considered “work hard” for the marriage, if not some sacrificing or some tolerating? Doing something we dislike (or not good at) for a change, to make the other person happy, to make the other person laugh... 

    3 minutes ago, lebeaucouple said:

    So who will be the ghostbuster, her stepson?  

    Call Hong Ji-Ah from Daebak Real Estate :D

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  12. 36 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

    someone said what if chadol's mom was a spy from left chancellor. thought about it and made sense. it is weird that she is entering the house right after bawoo is not in the house. so he can't kick her out of the house. she is claiming to be noble which is strange considering that bawoo was dirt poor. she is supposed to dump him for some friend who obviously was peasant..  plus, chadol was hiding behind the princess in shock. either he doesn't really remember her or she is not who she says she is.. so it can go several ways. lets hope it is still interesting... 

    In the preview, actually Lee received report from his man that indeed there’s a young woman living in the same house as BW’s wife and Lee asked for the identity of this woman to be checked out. So Cha Dol’s mother is not a spy planted by Lee. Also from what I remembered, she dumped BW for some guy who is richer. Her identity name plate could be a fake, or something she stole from the man she ran away with. 
     

     

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  13. 13 hours ago, partyon said:

     

    • The recap of season 1 highlighted the fact that the sound engineer knows the 50s wife's older sister. He even named the sister. Not sure what this is going to mean for the show but the connection between them will be explored somehow in season 2 I am sure.

    I don’t think he knows the older sister. It was just his indirect way to compliment her looking young, that he’s mistakenly thought she is the younger sister of Writer Lee. The other 30s and 40s wives laughed at the way he was teasing 50s wife, because they didn’t think he had it in him to pull such a joke. 
     

    So is episode 1 a go or no-go? Number of barf bags needed? 

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  14. 1 hour ago, ponderings said:

     

    That product actually exists?! 

    I thought they used CGI to make it look real.

    I don’t know for sure, haha... But they will have to use CGI to illustrate the air flow either way... Oxygen bars use to be a hype, I don’t know what it’s like now though. So for rich people to have that kind of product installed at home is possible. I was only thinking that the remote control should be nearby. Why do you wait for a servant to turn it on when you’re already gasping for more oxygen LOL... which is why I think it’s just PPL because she needed to mention what the thing is. If she were to turn it on herself, there can’t be an introduction of the product haha...

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  15. 3 hours ago, Sleepy Owl said:

     

    By the way, what's with the 50s couples kid spending time with their father and stepmom suddenly, AND WHOSE KID IS THAT WOMAN HOLDING!!!! I think it is nothing but imagination of the 50s husband though

    Could be 50s wife’s imagination too... torturing herself unnecessarily.
     

    Argh, I saw the stepmom trying to kiss stepson... aaargh, somebody give me some saline water...!!

     

    And looks like we’re going to have a showdown on the three females fighting for a man. 

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  16. 1 hour ago, airgelaal said:

    it's easier to move to another country and later return with a baby. 

    In RL, moving to another country is super difficult, unlike what dramas portray, that you can just pack a suitcase and catch a plane. 
     

    1 hour ago, Sleepy Owl said:

     

    Most of the cases will be like Yo Han (not as how he was, but his parents). His mother, the nurse claimed that since the kid's father is a good guy, the baby will also turn out to be good despite having such genes. Wouldn't every one claim the same thing after seeing the test results? 

    This is where it defies logic again as have been widely discussed here. Since she believes her baby would turn out just fine, whyyyyy would she switch baby with JE?? *rolleyes

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  17. 1 hour ago, ferily said:

    The abortion for fetus with psychopath gene being passed! Like wow, that law was passed with the vote of the country.. I don't know how I feel about it passing...

    The more I think about this bill, the angrier I get. Or amused maybe because of how ridiculous it is. Like how is the government going to implement that? Have all the pregnant mothers in the nation be tested? On whose fund? And if found positive with genes, then the government order an abortion to the parents? Whose fund? As a mother, I am going to contest the result. Give me all the research data to show that the result is reliable and valid before you ask me to kill my baby. Show me proof because one BaReum is not enough statistics. It’s my baby and my body, how is the government going to force me to have an abortion? If I refuse, what will the penalty be? Jail time? Hefty fine? Arrest me, arm wrestle me into the abortion process? :lol: You see why I don’t know if I should be angry or laugh at the bill that was passed.  

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