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11 minutes ago, poopytubby said:
anyway i was wondering if anyone knows what sobong was looking for on the mattress when they woke up after drinking?
this is my opinion, I think she’s looking for a red spot. Maybe she was dreaming about doing it with Cheoljong.-
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2 hours ago, Noor Hasliza Zakaria said:
But then, rational speaking the king is just using the queen for cover n he himself is not aware of his own feeling yet..n they are still in dress when they woke up. So maybe not.
The producer actually mentioned in the press conference, they will adjust the sexual scenes (or 18+ scenes in Go Princess Go, I watched the original as well) so that it could fit with the audience from the age of 13 years old. Also, in many sageuk dramas, after a couple spent a night together, mostly they woke up in dress since people in Joseon uphold politeness and modesty.
After the king covered himself when the guards came, there is still a long night to spend together tho. And he confessed to his brother that he has wavered by the queen. He also was running like a mad when the queen was in real danger (the lake incident, and the one in the royal kitchen). He maybe realizing it through his own action. If it isn't loving, I don't know what else.
Not to mention, in the c-drama...
Spoilerthe king and the queen never said "I love you" to each other until the very near end of the series. But they are actually very aware of their own feelings since many episodes before that.
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I get why some of you perhaps unhappy with the last scene/preview because the king maybe did it while he was sober and the queen was drunk. However, I thought rather than he took advantage of the queen, I think both of them are sober and they actually did it. Or at least the king believed 100% the queen was conscious and they had a great time together. While the queen thought it was only a dream & her subconscious mind is Soyong, so it's very possible she gave him a permission 'in her dream' lol. I made a whole thread about it
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1 hour ago, poopytubby said:
a few people pointed out that it may go the oh my ghostess route, which im personally not a fan either
couldn't agree more. I watched Oh My Ghost, but it doesn't feel right. Sun woo fell for the ghost, not the body. Even though eventually he falls for Bong Sun too, the one who made him loves her is the ghost at the first time. and there are too many memories of them being together. But it ends up with a handshake? Or a goodbye? I don't remember. I just remember that Sun woo looks scared when he realized all this time he's interacted with a ghost. I am a fan of Jo Jung Suk tho
Anyway, I dont think I would like this route to happen in Mr. queen.
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1 hour ago, enzek said:
Btw, what is DC Gall?
DC Inside Gallery, a South Korean Internet Forum.
https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/lists/?id=dramaqueencheorin
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There is an interesting theory /rumor in DC Gall. About the book in episode 7. As you can see, little Soyong is hugging a book and it's the same as what HJ kept. The book is wet and HJ said she has a secret (in the preview). So the book maybe was there when SY helping CJ, who was trapped in the well. But HJ wrote her name on it.
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My heart can't take it omg, it leaves me so much emotion
Original video, pre-release of episode 7
https://tv.naver.com/v/17634844
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14 hours ago, maria_m2me said:
Yes, it's episode 5 of Go Princess Go.
Major spoiler alert
(for those who haven't watched the original, I advise you not to reveal the hidden content until episode 7, unless you don't mind with potential major spoilers)
SpoilerThe queen didn't remember, and she thought she somehow was doing it with Lu Li. Haha. The next day, the queen saw a hickey on the king's neck, and she teased him a lot. The king got angry because the queen didn't remember, and she teased him doing it with Jiang Shi. Then the king got her off the horse carriage on their way back to the palace, lol. And she vomited a lot realizing what happened after Lu Li told her hahaha. I wonder how the kdrama will execute it
Reading the Soompi article:
"After her mysterious cardiac arrest, there will be a definitive change in Kim So Yong," teased the producers of "Mr. Queen." "Something will happen that brings Kim So Yong and Cheoljong one step closer together.
I assumed they'll also go with a similar route. The queen and the king will get their first consummate night in the queen's house. And the definite change is that the queen (the chef) will get pregnant.
The kdrama has so many similarities in its storyline. It's just a little bit different in its execution. For example, the convenience and delivery service idea by the queen. Or about the king who did flashbacks before he dives into the water when the queen is in real danger. After that, he's more attentive towards her. And I believe they will go with the same bold route to cultivate and grow femininity in Sobong, and make the leads closer.
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3 hours ago, Nymeria289 said:
It looks like a flash back...The Queen would never wear her hair that way...married woman must wear Binyeo so this is So Yong before she entered the palace.
It's more likely an unmarried woman needs to braid and lower down their hair. Also, the article above mentioned it is after the queen regains consciousness.
11 hours ago, Jillia said:“Mr. Queen” Teases Blossoming Romance Between Kim Jung Hyun And Shin Hye Sun After She Regains Consciousness
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I don't know guys, but she looks definitely Sobong in my eyes. Rather than look soft and calm, her smile smirks to one side and her posture isn't upright.
If it was Soyong, I would imagine she would stand up straight and her head bowed a little bit without tilting to one side and her smile would softer, instead of looks like a grin. She was educated to be polite and humble since she was born. But in the still cuts, rather than humble, she looks sassier .
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Have you guys seen this? Omg I am so excited because I think the scene will be so cute lol. This is a thread, there are some explanations about the still cuts too.
Btw I don't think it's real Soyong inside her, because she looks sassy. Soyong has more calm vibes. It's probably Sobong, she realizes she couldn't do anything with her/his life in the modern era, accepts reality and therefore tries into survive by acting more feminine. It's not a flashback of Soyong either because her hair isn't loose. Indiciating she's a married woman.
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17 hours ago, enzek said:
Some people also mentioned they upset that the screenwriter make Kim Jung Hyun character unlovable because he want to kill his wife and want her to end with her adopted cousin instead. To me the king here is soo tame compared to the main male lead in Chinese historical dramas LOL
If they upset with King Cheol Jong here they better stay away from for example, Crown Prince Li Cheng Yin in Goodbye My Princess haha
I know right! Even Cheoljong in this drama is about 50 times better than the Chinese drama version (Qi Sheng in Go Princess Go).
My honest thoughts on Qi Sheng:
SpoilerQi Sheng is an as****le. He abused his wife, pranked her, cheated her, forced her to get pregnant even though she doesn't want to, wanted to kill her, and he said that whatever he did to her could be justified because he is her husband.
In the kdrama, Hwa Jin is his concubine (at least she is a king's wife). But in the Chinese version, she's even someone else's wife. And they had an affair in front of the public just because he is the emperor/future emperor. Each of them is someone else's spouse yet they committed adultery.
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11 hours ago, deanne3004 said:So, they made the unconcious queen is the real so yong as bong hwan in his body ?
If you referred to this sentence:
SpoilerStarting a delivery service in Joseon became the new drive of life for So Yong, but at this timing, Bong Hwan came back to the modern days. My precious body! I am finally back! While cheering of joy, Bong Hwan heard shocking news. Look here, mister doctor, you say that I am a vegetable person? Bong Hwan is falling in despair once again... On the other hand, So Yong, from whom Bong Hwan's soul has left, fell and lost conciousness. The palace is hence upside down...
I think it means the current queen (Sobong) who lost unconsciousness in the palace. Not the previous/real Soyong in Bong Hwan's body. Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think we have any clues about where is the real Soyong yet.
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10 hours ago, maria_m2me said:About the queen
The king knew that the queen wasn't the real queen. The queen told him and the concubine also heard that, but they thought she's lying. The ninth prince also realized that she's not the real queen.
Oh yah, in Chinese version the name of the playboy and the name of the real Queen is similar. But in Korean, seems different alot.
I watched the original series as well and I am reading the novel:
SpoilerI think I remember, even though the queen told them, they didn't believe it as you said (they thought she was lying). But wait, I didn't know the ninth-prince realized she's not the real Zhang Peng-Peng? I thought the ninth prince just said she's changed a lot and have a better character (in the c-drama). Or I probably skipped that part.
In the original novel, Qi Sheng eventually realized it is someone else inside the body. However, it took time for Zhang Shi to tell him and make him understand. As Zhang Shi mentioned, "would he even understand? this kind of person is easily make mistake, overestimating his own IQ" lol
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1 hour ago, chatterbox22 said:
And I guess that Bong Hwan will go back to his future body only when he dies for real as the Queen.
I was thinking the same. Soyong won't come back and the chef will be in the body of Soyong until he dies as the queen. Probably after years of his life spent in the Joseon era. When he comes back to his original body in the modern world, he will visit the lake again and probably sees his writing on the stone. But I'm also not sure about this, because it would change the history of Hangul letters and they acknowledge the concept of parallel worlds. However, I have a feeling this writing will appear in the last episode/a moment in a modern world to show what the chef experienced wasn't just a dream.
I don't consider it as a sad ending as long as it's not too bizarre like the c-drama's.
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5 hours ago, Kaizen68 said:
I had a discussion on Twitter with someone who lurked around in Korean resources. There are some pictures that contain major spoilers (and I think everyone has seen it). One staff constantly leaking pictures and other staffs clear the mess. That's why the original post of the pics has been deleted. I thought it was fine since everyone talking about it. Until staff pointed out that the pics contain major spoiler. Especially, it seems like people who watched the original series spoiled a lot by those pics alone .
I am writing this down so that I won't write something vaguely in the future. Some friends DM-ed me on Twitter about the spoilers are. So I think some of you also don't mind or want to discuss. Anyway, this is probably not an unwanted spoiler, also leads to our preferred romance. We already discussed the possible endings here, either from the series or from the novel. So I think this is this is only one piece of puzzle in the near end of the series. I may be totally wrong about it, but it's just too similar with the original series. And, I considered it a major spoiler since the pictures have leaked. Btw I made this spoiler box into three layers. Lol.
SpoilerSpoilerSpoilerIn the c-drama. The king went to a war zone, and the queen chased him. She believed that he forgot to bring his medicine (that's why it seemed there she brought something in her hand, a blue pouch). In the c-drama, the queen couldn't fight. But she insisted on going as she's worried a lot about her husband. Thus she risked her own life and the Queen Dowager gave permission. She left the palace together with the people closest to her (that's why in the pic, the royal chef, the court lady, and Hong Yeon bring weapons).
I assume it is the chef inside the queen because it was a manly action. And there is the royal chef together with them.
The ninth-prince (Byeong-in in Kdrama) is punished after he committed treason. Maybe that's why he wore a rare-white costume. He is perhaps exiled or something like that.
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I had a discussion on Twitter with someone who lurked around in Korean resources. There are some pictures that contain major spoilers (and I think everyone has seen it). One staff constantly leaking pictures and other staffs clear the mess. That's why the original post of the pics has been deleted. I thought it was fine since everyone talking about it. Until staff pointed out that the pics contain major spoiler. Especially, it seems like people who watched the original series spoiled a lot by those pics alone .
These are the pics:
SpoilerAnyway it seems like the pics support the romance will be with
SpoilerThe chef
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5 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:
I think this is the obvious and expected route which im not a fan of but which I think will happen. BH will make the king realise that he loved the queen and once SY switches back they will realise their true feelings for each other. I also think they will go the route of flashback and showing that they liked each other years ago or something its a easy cop out honestly.
Ugghh, I hope it's not gonna happen. And I think it won't happen. For me, too, this is an easy cop-out, as you said. And many Kdramas exalt childhood, as if the events and person who came after become insignificant.
I am watching "the moon that embraces the sun" since it glorifies childhood. But it felt so different from Mr. Queen. The main theme of Mr. Queen is a comedy, and I think this drama needs to show the character development why the King fell in love with the Real Soyong even though the Chef is not in her body anymore. And it may take several episodes to convince the audience. In that case, maybe this drama is not funny anymore. It would become a melo-drama.
Also, the center of the comedy is the Chef, while Choi Jin Hyuk is only a cameo. He may appear again, but only for a few minutes in a few episodes (the queen's imagination, his situation in the hospital, or some flashbacks, etc). Anyway, he needs to be in the body of Soyong until the end of the series to keep the drama alive.
And I saw this on Twitter. It's in the last three days of filming. Judging from her expression, I think it's the Chef that inside the body.
And also, if you watch Go Princess Go, the fact that the Queen was a chef is like a hint that she will fall in love with him.
SpoilerBecause in the drama go princess go, the Queen often serves food made from durian to the king. The king pretended to dislike it, but when the Queen left, the king ate it voraciously. She serves foods so that she could get his attention, lol.
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1 hour ago, kyakyari said:Spoiler
the cold rejection by saying "Is that an order?" from King, perfecting So Yong's depression and without a second thought she jumps off to the lake. after mentally being pushed by his clan when she wants to give up as queen or maybe being on the king's side as well as the guy she loved which has loved to somebody else.
I have to disagree. What perfecting her jump into the lake without a second thought not after the King said "is that an order?" but after the concubine said that the Queen tried to kill the king. Perhaps it meant that the queen knew about Andong Kim clan's plan to kill the king but was unable to do anything about it.
SpoilerThe queen's main problem was that she seemed to have lost her self-esteem and self-worth (because she is in the middle of the lies), not because of being in a total desperate of unrequited love. The King's actions might have played some parts, but the drama itself mentioned it was a silly reason for the queen to take her own life because of a man (as its principal reason).
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Btw I feel like I want to grumbling and nagging a lot... This drama succeeded in making me sympathize with Soyong's character but I am still not sure how the justice will be given to her. That's why I hope the Chef is the queen's reincarnation as she's gaining her memories.
SPOILER GO PRINCESS GO
SpoilerSince I watched the full series of Go Princess Go, the chef perhaps will take control of the body until the end of the series.
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11 minutes ago, Nymeria289 said:
But if I recall right, in Go Princess Go...wasn't the Prince aware that the Princess was a man and fell for him. I would prefer it if Choljeong fell for him knowing Bong Hwan's truth and didn't care. But I think its reasonable to estimate that to be quite a long shot.
SpoilerIn the webseries, the king didn't know his wife was a man and we just go roll with it. In the original novel, the king knows and doesn't care.
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23 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:
There cant be justice for SO Yong if people want it to go the route above the only way for Justice is if So yong returns and like leaves or something which Im not a fan of but yeah you cant really want Chef and King together yet want Justice.
I think somehow the production team will manage to solve it. It depends on the execution and audience's perspective about 'justice.' Is it sympathy feelings from the king? Is it love? Or the ones who cursed her get a just punishment? Or Hwa Jin's lies exposed, and she got the punishment as well? There will be no justice if it's totally like in c-drama, no flashback about the real queen. In the kdrama, they even haven't shown the child actors yet, which the news has been around before the drama aired. And what kind of the stories they will tell, we don't know yet.
19 minutes ago, kyleatreides said:Hello! I’ve been a silent reader here but I have a question to ask.. so I’m wondering which clan does the King belong to? Pyungyang Jo? Since the Queen Dowager said she didn’t give birth to the King and the Great QD said she brought the King from the countryside.. What’s the deal here? I thought being a King is a lineage thing? If anyone knows the answer, please tell me..
He's a son the great prince jeongye, their family exiled to Ganghwa Island in 1801. The late king (King Heonjeong), queen dowager's husband, died without an heir. The Great Queen Dowager is the wife of the late-late king. She's the one who selected Cheoljeong and allow him to ascend to the throne (Because there was no heir from the previous king, and The Great Queen Dowager needs someone to control).
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28 minutes ago, enzek said:
Some people grossed out with king and current queen possibility of love line because to them it kinda forcing straight man like chef to be gay and all but I really don't see the gay thing at all because physically, the king is a man and the queen is 100% a woman. It is her soul that is possessed.
If the theory that Bong Hwan is the reincarnation of the past queen is correct, I think rather than the BL, the message that I get is more about loving someone despite how people perceived your beloved is.
I agree. I was born in a conservative family, and at first, I thought this drama would not have romance. But I watched the c-drama and I think the romance might work, that's why I saw her as 100% woman. There are dozen of reasons that I don't need to explain to many. However, since I realize I'm maybe a little moderate, people maybe have different opinions and perspectives, and I just respect them.
Btw thank you chingu for posting my gifs! I am so lazy hehehe
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Hi guys, did you see this picture already? I am so excited omg. I think it means they'll execute the romance between the king and the current queen (like in the original webseries).
SpoilerThe storyline in Go Princess Go.
The king went to a war zone and the queen chased him because she believed he forgot his medicine. And the ninth-prince committed treason and he is punished. This happens in the near end episodes.
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I'm actually started to invest in the background story of the real queen. However, I assume she's already passed away. The kdrama only purchases the license for the webseries (not the novel), and I could see it's more similar to the series than the novel. That's why JBH is in a coma, and the real queen is dead (like in the original webseries).
Even so, I feel this is very unfair to the real Soyong if she doesn't come back. In the original version (either in the novel or in the webseries), the real queen has a bad character. She also did a few tricks so that she could be matched with the crown prince. Meanwhile, in the kdrama, Soyong has a warm and kind heart. It has been shown that she has a different personality from Zhang Shi. There are many things about Soyong that are unrevealed, and she is also the victim of Hwa Jin's lies. So it seems the kdrama wants us to invest in this character, and I am invested already. She needs justice!
SpoilerThis scene made me SUPER ANGRY AT HIM ARRGGHHH
However, at the same time, if Soyong comes back and the chef return to his era (if they are different souls), I don't think Soyong will be able to fit herself between the king and the Andong Kim's clan. She's vulnerable to Andong Kim's pressure, and the king surely notice changes in her behavior and decision. Meanwhile, he fell for her when the person inside her was the chef. So if that's the ending, it will only leave the audience a confusion. I feel like it leads to a poor and lousy conclusion and the drama doesn't resolve the problem. However, the production team themselves already mentioned, they make this drama to fight gender stereotypes. So I believe they won't make Soyong comes back to support what they are fighting/against to
Or the drama might show some flashbacks about Soyong in future episodes, and make us feel sorry for her even more. And the king feels guilty for badly treating the queen all this time and then fall in love with her (as the previous Soyong, not the chef). However, this is more likely not to happen. Because in the c-drama, they clearly drew a line between love and pity. It's a message that the original webseries brought. Qi-sheng said and explained that he realizes his feelings for Jiang Shi were all pity, but he didn't realize it. And I don't think the kdrama will make Cheoljung's feelings to the beloved character Soyong like Qi-sheng's feelings to Jiang Shi.
So the last resorts are if the queen comes back, (1) whether the chef and the queen are the same soul (the chef is the reincarnation of the queen, I really hope this comes true) or (2) two souls merge in one body. But if the queen doesn't really come back and there is a romance, these are probably the ending:
- (3) the chef transforms into the queen herself and accepts the femininity inside her/him (like in the c-drama),
- (4) and/or eventually they'll give us a sad ending like the original series (the king died and the chef returns to the modern era)
- (5) Another possible ending, he'll meet the king in the modern era as a woman.
However, this is a comedy-drama, and the original script ends with a happy ending. The webseries does not provide a happy ending due to government restrictions, and it doesn't apply in South Korea. So let's hope, kdrama doesn't have a sad end like the original webseries.
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6 hours ago, aisling said:
From the Episode 6 preview:
What I got from the preview, the Queen Dowager asked whose soul do you want to summon? I assumed she wanted to call Soyong's soul in the future. But eventually, she failed (This is my assumption). That's why later she said, "It seems that this woman is having fun there."
Maybe this drama is more similar to the original novel where the bodies swapped, the queen slipped into the man's body. However, since this is only a trailer, it might be Choi Jin Hyuk's scene is her imagination. Because I refuse to believe that the real Soyong is flirting with many men in the modern world, lmao.
I think the reason why our queen failed to summon Soyong's soul because the previous Soyong has passed away? So either the man's body is in a coma or he's dead. Especially if they show the real queen in the future and her/his behavior, the audience will start paying attention to her. And he/she would continue to be highlighted. Meanwhile, we all know that Choi Jin Hyuk is only a cameo.
11 hours ago, maria_m2me said:Actually in novel it said it was a mistake from The God (I dunno how he said the name of the God), actually that man should be in woman form and the woman (the real queen) should be a man.
Yes, I got confused. I am just reading the novel now and currently in chapter 11. Their bodies swapped, and they are different souls. It's just that they often times used 'reincarnated' to explain the situation.
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46 minutes ago, Sejabin said:
This is interesting. If she loves the king, why did she let herself to be kissed by her cousin.. I think in the ancient time, people were more conservative than we are today..
The thing is, we don't know the relationship dynamic between Soyong and Byeong-in yet. They might be potentially lovers in the past. In the c-drama, the queen really aware the ninth-prince's feelings. She relied on him and trusted him MORE than her own husband. She believed he'd protect herlife no matter what, while the king hated her or wanted to kill her, there's always the ninth-prince. But she said she couldn't be with him because she's the King's wife. It's like a bond for her. In the kdrama, when Soyong kissed Byeong-in, she had not married yet to the King. She even planned to take her own life before the marriage happens.
I think we will get more flashbacks of their relationship in tonight's episode.
46 minutes ago, Sejabin said:And the same questions come again inside my head.. if she loves him, why she threw herself into the lake just a night before her wedding? .. did she love him but also did not want to marry him and being his queen?
If I put into her shoes who sees everything around her is a lie, I would say, marriage is just a surface. Superficial celebration to get a status in front of others. Marriage doesn't equal happiness and love anyway. And lies are what she retires from, that's why she doesn't care about her status in front of others, whether to be seen as a queen or not.
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Joo Won 주원 [Drama- The Midnight Studio/ 야한(夜限) 사진관]
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I am just saying hi again after three years.
I was part of this thread around 2014-15 (it has been nine years since I first joined). My old friends are no longer here... I often wonder what they are doing right now in their lives. However, I really miss them and my interactions with them in this forum because I learned English from this fan forum. It helped me earn my master's degree in the US and allowed me to visit eleven countries to attend fully funded conferences. In the past, my English wasn't good at all, and my friends patiently tried to understand me. Anyway, I will always be grateful joining this community~
I met Joo Won in real life during the promotion of the drama YongPal in 2015. He looked so handsome and unreal! I genuinely believe that Joo Won will always hold a special place deep in my heart. He is the Korean actor who has been the most influential in providing me inspiration and motivation.
Thank you all for your warm support and endless love towards our actor, Joo Won~