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  1. Noticed the flurry of activity on this thread and discovered that two episodes had already been released. Thought that I should have a bit of a look see since I've been putting my two cents here and there. Besides I am somewhat curious about the execution. I know there will be those who say we shouldn't compare but that's quite impossible. Of course comparisons will be made. The question is will the show be able to stand on its own merits that we will not think too much of the original along the way. That's always the challenge. As far as adapting the concept of criminals playing good guys and going outside the law to achieve some measure of justice, the show has taken a decent stab at it. I never thought that was going to be the problem. There's a good tradition of Kdramas that do this from Bad Guys to Mad Dog. That wasn't the part that worried me. I liked the way the show re-contextualized the Nigerian Job in the second episode and as I had suspected, we're looking at big arcs more in the vein of S 3 and 4. As with most K dramas... there's a big conspiracy between the usual interested parties in high places who are behind these support acts which are trotted out as misdirections and pawns. So the plotting of the show is good (although they could do more to improve the pacing) especially in how it brings in material from the original. I note too that this Leverage team too isn't the well-oiled machine of the original (a bit sloppy in parts) but I suppose that can be attributed to the fact that there is this Big Bad (I have my theories about who that is) calling the shots so early on (keeping them off balance) and that Tae Joon isn't quite the multi-talented strategic mastermind... yet.... hopefully he will. Going to prison will certainly change him as will losing his son in such tragic fashion. I don't want this to be entirely about Tae Joon's revenge so it will be interesting how the rest of the show proceeds. One of the charms of the original is about helping individuals, helping the little people to redress wrongs perpetrated by the rich and powerful. My greatest concern was always about how the characters would be fleshed out. Right now, the one I'm most impressed with is Su Kyung, the grifter played by Jeon Hye Bin. She's captured Sophie's poise, elegance and confidence perfectly. Even the "bad acting" was on the nose. (I guess that's why she was cast in the role) She's the only one that actually reminds me of the original positively. I'm not entirely sure what I think of the others yet because it's clear their taking a different approach with them and admittedly I'm not immediately entranced. I imagine something is lost in translation because the humour isn't landing for me either. Humour was always a big part of why I loved the original, particularly the banter between the younger men. I want to be fair and give it time... it's early days yet. (On another note... the fake Chinese doctor/CEO... oh man... his Mandarin gave him away completely! ) I also want to put a good word in for the main OST theme... that was another highlight... In the style of the original but with its own take. Really happy with it and how it was used throughout. It's not a bad start. I haven't decided if I will keep watching it while airing or wait till the whole thing is done and marathon it during the Christmas-New Year period. I've never heard of TV Chosun. Is it a new cable station?
  2. I'm sure you are. But it's just one of those realities of life that we all have to deal with. I don't abhor adaptations or remakes like I used to. Despite my whinging and whining I still take peeks, out of curiosity. There's a place for them... if done properly. (Although I'm still wondering about the wisdom of remaking The Princess Bride) I didn't know I needed a K version of Life of Mars until I saw it. However, that one was unusually good and it dealt with the world building properly. The Chinese drama Vigilantes in Masks is also a remake of Leverage but done extremely cleverly by being placed in a anachronistic Ming dynasty based on a famous Chinese Robin Hood legend. I realised some time around the second episode... "Oh wow, that's just like Leverage... but with martial arts" It's one of the best IMO. Let me know if you're still interested in watching the US version of Leverage. PM me.
  3. I don't think Nate Ford was ever "bad"... It's more the case that he was a man who really wanted to get results working within the system but got let down. It is true, however, that he constantly struggled with the ethics of what he did with the team which contributed in no small part to his dysfunctional relationship with alcohol for a time. I think in his own mind, at least in the early period, he always saw himself as the good guy who was "forced "to work with thieves out of necessity. It broke his heart a little, especially when he was trying so hard to be different from his father. I always saw him as a champion for the underdog who were victims of larger forces... and the legal system was inadequate to the task in terms of redressing those injustices. As for the role of the son in this, I'm okay with these sorts of small changes. It is a K drama after all and I expect some melodrama. But I can see why Koreans would take to the premise of Leverage. Five thieves with hearts of gold up against Big Business, Big Government and corrupt politicians. On another note, I also enjoyed the inclusion of the FBI in the original series now and again... especially the one, Agent Sweeney, I think... who was crushing on Parker. I thought he was cute.
  4. Sigh... I don't feel very enthused about the first episode of the second series. It seems like I'm watching a completely different drama. The new actress is okay for what they're doing (although the previous one was good on the angst) but the show doesn't exactly pick up where it left off. They've done what Lucas did with Anakin Skywalker after Episodes 1-3 came out. The non-linear approach that they've taken also doesn't help. I need closure on a number of threads so I may persevere at a later time.
  5. I am heartened by the previews. It feels like they are trying with this. It gives me hope that this will be a decent adaptation. Stylistically it looks top-notch although I have a niggly complaint that the three youngsters look like they are fresh out of high school. I always liked the fact that Elliot (at least) was older and had a variety of military experiences. Hahaha... There's even an elevator scene between the Parker and squeamish Hardison characters here! The biggest surprise is that Lee Dong Gun's son is still alive even after the formation of the team.
  6. This show is all kinds of awesome and brilliance. Words are insufficient right now to express how I feel about KHN in particular but the writing of this story is spectacular. So much to say... so little time to say it. Moreover, I'm not known for short posts. The ledger... It's definitely the key. I doubt its introduction at this stage is for one purpose only. My guess is that it will have a use beyond keeping the male patrons on their toes and punishing men behaving badly. I am surprised that no one's thought about using it to track the movements of the Joker. Anyway, that's my hypothesis for now. Despite all the hype, I am not sure that the Joker is really after DB... My guess is that he/she sees him/herself as DB's protector in some odd terrifying fashion. If, as has been declared, that the Joker has been watching her all this time, he could have struck anytime in the past 5 years. He didn't. So why now? That's why I don't think the victim that we've seen in the flashforwards will be DB. I don't say this with any real degree of certainty... it's purely speculation on my part. The reason the Joker has re-emerged... has largely to do with complications in DB's life. It seems to have a come during the emergence of this intractable love triangle. The timing is noteworthy. For all those reasons, I don't think leaving Ongsan will actually make much of difference. There's nothing to stop the Joker from following her to wherever she hopes to go. I also don't believe it is possible to protect PG from all of this. One can try of course. Sure, it's the sort of thing you don't want any kid to have to go through but some things are beyond one's control. However, right now... the person who is most dangerous to PG is JR... IMVHO... The most interesting part about the Joker is its commentary on the notion of a small regional town/village being intimate places. The discussion between the chief and YS was instructive in that regard. Do we really know people just because of close geographical proximity? It also seems to me that any kind of neighbourly knowledge is limited to the exaggerated, salacious stuff that tabloids love perpetuating. If the Joker is indeed a local (which I believe he/she is), then it gives lie to the idea that everybody knows everyone in these sorts of locations. Do we really know people as well as we think we do? Especially if they tend to live fairly anonymously and innocuously. The only reason why DB seems to be constantly bombarded with notoriety has little to do with the way she lives but in large part due to her status in that community. She's a rare exhibit in the Ongsan zoo where there's not a lot going on in general. If someone else had come in and set up shop there, it would be an entirely different story. So in truth, the gossip tells us more about the community itself -- it's attitudes and beliefs than DB as a single mother. Speaking of timing and love triangles, I really have to give JR a big tongue lashing this time round. In previous episodes, I had some sympathy for him and his situation although I've always believed that he made his bed and now he has to lie in it. He made poor choices... and I thought he understood that at least. But in Episodes 7 and 8, he was downright obnoxious and irresponsible to the point I really wanted to either punch him or throttle him. I thought YS showed admirable restraint on both occasions because JR should just get back to Seoul and stay the heck out of DB's life. I don't care if he's Pil-gu's birth dad but it was highly irresponsible for him to take the boy to the seaside to eat shellfish and not inform his mother of it. It's bad enough that PG didn't leave a message but the so-called adult should know better. But no... He hasn't learned a single thing from the past. Not a thing apparently. Okay so his marriage is facade... well, that's not DB's problem and it won't be solved by him hanging around her and disrupting her life so that he can assuage some of his guilt and/or enjoy a bit of relief from a gold-digging spouse. It's pure escapism on his part. What's the relevance of the argument of having spent 10 years with DB? Is that some kind of licence for being a nuisance and/or for reconciliation. They broke up and moved on. He did his thing... she did hers. On top of that, he's married and she's now seeing another man that he is well-aware that she likes. He even observes that she's different when that other man is around. But somehow the implications of all these facts escape him because at the end of the day, it's all about him... how he feels... what he thinks and how he thinks DB should live. He's bulldozing into their lives in frantic desperation trying to pick up where he left off with no idea of what he's coming into and no regard for her needs and preferences. It's a kind of hubris. Especially when he has done a poor job with his own personal life. The fact that his marriage is farce and is coming apart at the seams is no excuse for his awful behaviour. And what's even worse, he's throwing around his wealth... as if it makes up for everything. I don't begrudge people a bit nostalgia. I indulge from time to time myself . But to live that way suggests a very bad case of delusional mania. I love how the romance is written and portrayed here. There's something sweetly old-fashioned about the way the leads interact that has me grinning from ear to ear. The dumpling ("mandu") analogy was gold and resonated with me. It's things like that about the show that makes it a gem. You've got to give KHN so much kudos for all those facial expressions as he reacts to her remarks. I live for his facial contortions! YS no raging intellect but he has good o'l fashion common sense. And his emotional radar is so well tuned to hers because he takes the trouble to listen. It's a precious thing to behold. That exchange between him and JR at the noodle stall was why I watch K dramas and put up with idiotic 2MLs. Classic stuff. Haha... I thought it was a neat trick by the show to do a hug between the leads. It's a clever way to include one now that we're close to the halfway mark. I understand DB's reaction to the writing on the wall... I can see how it's shaken her and put the fear of God into her. It's better for her to be honest about how she's feeling than keeping it bottled. But as I said earlier, I don't think it's the answer even though I understand why she's thinking that way. She's a mother first and to protect her son is her first thought. I don't like what HM is becoming... but it's probably groundwork for when the Joker strikes again. I thought she was just a immature iconoclast (which was funny) but this blackmailer hat she's got on at the moment is quite creepy. She's turning into a serial blackmailer because she's crazy lazy and wants instant results. I don't understand her and TBH I don't want to. GT is rather stupid to indulge her. He should just call her bluff. Another couple of terrific episodes. Hope the show can maintain this kind of quality right to the end.
  7. Caught this on Netflix yesterday and binged watched it. I was surprised at the lack of love for it but I imagine that the leads aren't well-known (or acting powerhouses) so the word didn't get around. I have to say that this was largely enjoyable except for the frustration of watching the leads and other supporting couples struggling over poor communication and honesty. It's realistic enough though to warrant continued interest. It's the show that made me think deeply about different kinds relationship dynamics in a way not many romantic shows do. I wasn't depressed by it either like the last couple of Jung Hae-in outings. Whatever its flaws, it felt authentic. It was a happy ending for the leads although I wished that they didn't saddle Baili with the possibility of reuniting with her first love.
  8. To me timing plays a big part in all of this. Wrong place, wrong time = wrong man. He certainly has a lot of regrets especially because his own marriage isn't a happy one. I imagine that at the back of his mind he's wondering about what might have been. (The grass is greener on the other side etc.) JR isn't unlikeable but at the time when DB needed him most to be decisive about their relationship, he couldn't be. And as you pointed out they don't really complement each other that well. Not sure what you're referring to there @Fabbo. You're referring to Gyu Tae, I imagine from the sounds of things . But I'm not sure what point that I made you were specifically addressing.
  9. Appreciate everyone's insights and thoughts on the main characters. It's clear that we're dealing with flawed, ordinary individuals who have a long way to go to get their act together. As much as we love a good villain, the truth is, people are their own worst enemies. Except for our mysterious Joker, I don't think anyone stands out as a villain. I don't think JR is particularly awful... certainly not in the way GT is nor does he have anywhere near GT's lack of self-awareness. Although there is a part of him that is trying to make up for lost time, it's not entirely altruistic. At least not from where I'm looking. His home life is something of a disaster. I can only speculate that he married that pretentious wife of his under duress of some kind rather than the result of any genuine affection. He doesn't seem especially strong-willed so I imagine that he is someone that can easily be taken advantage of. Moreover the show establishes that his love for DB was genuine even if he wasn't determined enough to overcome parental objections to take a strong stance. It is an obvious contrast to YS who seems to be taboo blind and immune to emotional blackmail. But I don't want to judge JR too harshly seeing that he was a younger man then and well... DB did decide to walk away. I do think GT is a pathetic creature in every sense. His egregious attempts to name drop and flaunt his wealth to get respect has become increasingly repulsive. In a way I blame the people around him for feeding the beast. Everyone from his mother to the police chief do their bit to mollycoddle him. Even his wife has had a part to play in this. Of course he is responsible for the choices he's made but he's so preoccupied with being noticed and respected that he doesn't even notice that he's become an object of derision. It is almost pitiful except that he's using his clout in the town to bully those in a vulnerable position. It's all he has really because he's not especially a bright fellow. I suppose with Hyang Mi discreetly blackmailing him now, he's getting a bit of comeuppance for letting the chip on his shoulder get out of hand. He's completely lost control. I don't especially like HM either... her goal is highly unrealistic and she's not doing very much to get anywhere close to where she needs to be. Why Copenhagen... why not Japan for instance? The show seem determined to tease us each week with flashforwards of the aftermath of the Joker's handiwork. As to who the victim is, that question doesn't really interest me... I'm reasonably sure of who it isn't. But what I want to know is... why now? Why strike again after all this time?
  10. Goodness me... the parallels with Thank You just keep coming. Instead of an elderly grandfather with a penchant for Choco-pies, it's a semi-functional mother with a taste for energy drinks. If sheer persistence was all it needed to win a woman's heart, I'd say Yong-shik would be a top contender for any prize on offer. I'm fascinated by how he gets away with it because in in other dramas, when a second male lead gets too persistent, he can often rub me the wrong way. YS' wooing is way over-the-top but for some reason in this drama it works. At least speaking for myself. I think in part it is about who he is trying to win over and in part how he does it based on his knowledge of who she is. Even before Episode 6, I was inclined to think that DB was beginning to warm up to his charms. She's right... she'd have to be a psychopath not to be even slightly moved by all his grand and nutty gestures. Whatever else he is, our boy is consistent. He is boisterous and he certainly doesn't do things by half. To her credit, Dong-baek has done well with the hand that she's been dealt. She's a survivor and this last episode demonstrates that most clearly. For me the most tragic aspect to all of this is not she's had a very difficult time of it despite trying to do the right thing by everyone. The really depressing part is that she's been brainwashed by the people around her to think that her life can't be better than what it is... that her lot in life is fixed. I think the word "cursed" was used several times. In so doing she erroneously believes that she doesn't "deserve" to be in a relationship with a good man who is willing to bend over backwards for her. I get the heebie jeebies when I hear the word "deserve"... used in all kinds of ways in modern parlance that I find disturbing. "Deserve" suggests to me merit, reward, accomplishment which really should have no place in a conversation about "love". If we only loved people because they "deserve it", a lot more abandonment would be going on. One of the big lessons of this courtship that was remarkably well done in this last episode was how YS proved that unconditional love is almost never about the recipient but the giver. YS' love is big enough to jump through all the hoops. It isn't reliant on DB herself (although he is perceptive enough to see her strengths) because goodness only knows how hard she's tried to shoo him off with insults. It's certainly not reliant on mummy's approval or those of his elders in the town. The reason why his love is meaningful and doesn't annoy the heck out of me is because all of it comes from the better part of him. It is a love that understands and is nurturing. I root for him because he is respectful and kind. For him, it's about DB. The birthday surprise was mind blowing. Even I was in tears. When a man goes to all that trouble despite being somewhat hurt by your insults... I just don't think it's something to take lightly. Whether DB thinks she deserves any modicum of happiness is irrelevant. The important thing is what YS believes about her and the effect that he has on her. He builds her up where others seem only to tear her down. In contrast is Gyu-tae. It's all about his ego. He wants respect... I can understand that. He can't get it at home so he demands it from everyone else... to the point of absurdity. The end result? He's a jolly nuisance. He feels emasculated by his wife but he doesn't have the courage to deal with the root of his issues so he takes to bullying "weaker" women or throwing his wealth around greedy women... except now he's getting a taste of being manipulated. Same thing with Jang-ryeol. He's not getting a lot of love at home. Certainly not a lot of respect. I can see why he would be interested in Pil-gu... a son that takes after him... and that he has only just found out about. And then there's the guilt factor for letting DB raise a child on her own and the stigma of that... also understandable. But one gets the sense that it isn't just about mother and son... it feels like he is running away from his own problems by making appearances in Ongsan. It's a kind of refuge for him but he's getting ahead of himself. In that instance he can alleviate his guilt by throwing a bit of money around, play secret dad before going home to a spoilt, materialistic wife that's the complete opposite of his first love.
  11. The show is downright hilarious... the men especially... and the neighbourhood ajummas occasionally. I'm surprised by how good it is (so far)... and what a breath of fresh air it is. Although I gravitate towards the quiet ones I do like it when the Kdrama male lead is upfront about his feelings and intentions. I realise now that I've been waiting all this time for KHN to play such a role. I didn't know that I wanted to see him in such a role but now that I have, I am eager for more. Yeah, Yongshik, simple-minded fellow that he is isn't some raging intellectual but he has his own kind of intuitive smarts. But best of all, he is unerringly honest. Perhaps an argument could be made for him behaving like a stalker but the show smartly comes up with a reason why he should be following Dongbaek everywhere. It's a small town, there's a serial killer and he is an overzealous, duty-bound cop. Plus he's so adorable as he awkwardly and noisily attempts to find the right vocabulary to string it all together while channelling his inner Romeo. It's so cute that I want to pinch his cheeks and give him a great big hug. To me it's odd that everyone is trying to stop him from dating DB (even the lady herself) but it's one of those things that Kdramaland likes to do but I do love the *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* that goes on in that regard. There are obvious parodic elements. That's clear when the show flirts with breaking the fourth wall from time to time. My favourite gag in Episodes 3 and 4 was the one about not relying on school scores to get into the police. The chief is a lovely man but he's not very bright. I suppose he sees himself more as a peacemaker than a detective in those parts. I was disappointed with Ms Kwak, YS' mother. But I guess despite her open-mindedness, she's still a Kdrama mother in some ways. Evidently the show is not in the business of making things easy for YS. Everything he says about his relationship with DB apart from being delightful... is actually logical. Because unlike everyone else, he actually thinks through his position clearly. Apparently everyone else allow their biases, tradition, egos and fears to affect their judgment. Why should YS' liking of DB be framed as a zero sum game? Except that the older generation sees that scenario as a personal threat. Framing the whole thing in those terms means that Mum is thinking about her choices/needs over her son's choices and preferences. I get it... we have things we hold dear and can't let go of. No matter how nice Ms Kwak is to DB, there are deep seated beliefs that can't be so easily dislodged. For her I suppose she can't bear the thought that her son will end up raising another man's son. The Nohs are exceedingly frustrating to watch. It's a textbook example of doing marriage very very badly. Of course the fact that they have separate beds should tell us everything we need to know about that dynamic. There's so little real communication and respect. The missus presumes she knows what's going on but she doesn't really because she doesn't ask. The husband wants respect and because he can't get it at home, he's looking elsewhere. If it weren't so funny, it would be tragic. Neither wants to break the deadlock because their respective egos get in the way. I imagine also that fear of the consequences is at the back of it all. I suspect that neither would like to end the marriage at this point but neither has the courage to do what it takes to help it thrive either. It requires a level of honesty that they are incapable of right now. The sames goes for the other ajummas in the vicinity. They tend to take out the problems of their marriages on DB rather than honestly dealing with their spouses. It's early days yet so I'm not too concerned about the OTP. For some reason I mostly really like this for YS' wooing of DB even while she shoos him off now and again. I don't even care about the serial killer story (odd for me, I know) which might be better developed as time goes on... but right now it feels to me more like a plot device or subplot (at the very best). @liltash85 I don't do K movies in general. The few that I've seen haven't appealed to me. But I've not seen KHN do comedy before. Even his role in Angel Eyes was largely serious. @confusedheart326 Thank You must be at least 10 years old now?
  12. @bedifferent I had a look at Episode 2 as well because I really liked the first episode. I may stick with this rather than Vagabond although I am concerned about the 18 episodes listing. The thing I like about this show is that at least it's trying to do something a bit different. Yes, I've seen Thank You. Not just once but three times in fact. It's one of my favourites mainly for the down-to-earth story of broken people who find their way to each other. Of course Jang Hyuk being in it helps a lot. And that incredible child actor. It's not too much of a stretch to make comparisons between this and Thank You, not least because GHJ is in a similar predicament and does similar sorts of things. Similar... not identical. I feel that at least here, Dongbaek does stand up for herself from time to time and doesn't take too crap much lying down. I also think that her dynamic with the villagers from Onsang are somewhat different. The cattiness and the bullying stems from a jealousy that her place is popular with their menfolk. To be honest, I don't blame them for taking refuge at her pub. It's a "safe space" from all the "incestuous" connections. But I think these men need to find their own niche... start their own businesses, do their own thing etc rather than rely on their wives and the marinated crab trade. On some level it is funny to watch but I'm one of those old fashioned types that think that men should be more adventurous and be less risk averse. The only man who seems to have any kind backbone in this show is Yongshik. Perhaps it's because he has not been domesticated yet. I'm super fond of KHN and as expected he is wonderful here. I'm so glad for him that he's now in a lead male role... long overdue IMO. He is so funny and adorkable here. Like Brendan Fraser in his prime. But there are moments where he's pretty cool too. What's not to like? Apparently he's weird and out of step with the way things are done (despite being a native) but perhaps that's what's needed to shake things up in that sleepy town/village.
  13. It's not my intention to keep bashing on Vagabond and take away anyone's joy of watching this if they're quite happy with the product thus far. I wouldn't say the drama is bad. Not at all. Personally I'm sufficiently entertained... but for a show that looks this good, has a decent budget and cast, it's clear why the expectations exist. (Personally I didn't have any) You brought up the Jackie Chan movies as a form of comparison. Okay, I can see why you might. But I don't quite agree. I know when I watch Jackie Chan more or less what to expect. Except for Namiya. Jackie does 2 hour flicks in many instances and no sooner does the story begin, it more or less ends. So its sins are easy to overlook and forgivable. However, Vagabond is a 16 episode drama and speaking for myself, I'm largely concerned that we'll be seeing 10 more episodes of the same o'l, same o'l. Besides I would also argue that Vagabond is tonally confusing in a way that Jackie's movies aren't. It wants us to take it seriously because a plane load of people died and the male lead is justifiably deadly serious and paranoid. The humour, on the other hand, doesn't land well considering the context and who is supposed to deliver the humour. I don't think anyone here is denying that generic differences exist. But what I will say is that there are good examples of the genre and bad ones. There are good reasons why, for instance, the first 2 Die Hard films are classics (showing my age here) because they are tightly written action films containing a good story. They're also bleakly humorous as well but they are done in a witty, contextually appropriate way. My impression is that people want to like the show and for a whole variety of reasons, it isn't doing it for them. It is really odd to me as well. They seem to be bringing more attention to the whole thing than they need to. Boggles the mind.
  14. Oh I'm interested. I've been interested for a while. Of course, it's the multi-talented Kang Ha Neul... back from military service as well. Although I've been uhmming and ahing because I don't know if I should be starting dramas this time of year. I've had a look at the first episode... it had a fun, quirky vibe and GHJ doesn't look like she's aged a single day since Thank You. She has the girl-next-door look that sees her snagging these sorts of roles. This is something a bit different for KHN, certainly far removed from what he did in Moon Lovers. Loud, demonstrative, impetuous, blustering. Heh. Just adorable. He looks like he's having a ball. Speaking of Thank You, this one has an interesting slant on the outsider of a close-knit community with the local pub. It's not that she's a single mother but that she's a business rival that providing a service for the men who are feeling claustrophobic in that environment. Good to see Kim Ji Suk again as well. It's been a while.
  15. I had no expectations at all... to be honest ... hadn't heard anything one way or another and I only started watching this because of LSG and I thought that the storyline looked somewhat interesting. The show looks very slick but yeah... the characterization of the leads are a bit off. I suspect it's a case of Kdramaland wanting its cake and eating it too. What I mean is that it wants to be ambitious but it doesn't want to jettison tried and true tropes. It has potential but the silly aspects are a cause for concern. She's a rather schizophrenic character IMO. She has her moments when she has flashes of brilliance. The stuff about the bolt action rifle, for instance. But they are just flashes at the moment. The problem is that they want to tie her to some kind of aegyo trope initially and it just doesn't work. It's also obvious that she's being exploited as comic relief and not in a good way. I'm not against splashes of gallows humour now and again (the early bits of DG and Hoon were good) but it should come naturally from the characters and the situations that they're in, not inserted just to remind the audience that they're watching a Kdrama. I don't think J & M are the beginning and end of the whole thing either. There's obviously someone much higher up than Jessica who is really calling the shots. Very well-funded undoubtedly. J & M is probably a front for some kind of James Bond villain, I imagine who wants to blow up N or S Korea and beyond. I just want DG to smarten up and give the confrontational style a rest. I'm fine with him and some others with the NSI going rogue as is necessary when there's so much evil and corruption but he needs to stop flying by the seat of his pants.
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