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https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4546271111552846
Li Ba and HM are getting married!!!!
The truth is OUT!!!! Now we know why CT hates JJ, Li Ba, ZQ and Ling Ba. I believe that includes LX too. In a conversation between MY, JJ and TC, MY discloses why she thinks CT hates JJ. This is because they knew her past (she went out to play mahjong and locked the kids at home). She believed they were judging her for the daughter’s death!!! She hated them for judging her. That’s why she had been punishing
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https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4546193645902322
Awww... here’s a clip specially put together to say farewell to the drama.
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https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4546104252695421
BTV did an interview with the actress who acted as LX’s mum. She mentioned that to her, CT is sick. For CT to say and act the way she did, she had to be sick. That’s how she prepared for CT’s role. She talked about how family of origin can contribute to how a mother relate to her children. And it is important for a mother to be aware of that and not pass the issue to the child.
Like what we saw in the drama, CT’s mother (LX’s grandma) was not the best mother or grandma. She refused to do much to help with raising LX (when CT left LX) but expected LX to be filial to them. Never once did she thank Li Ba but thought the worst of him and JJ. Ling Ba who is an escapist (when ex wife was quarrelling all the time after daughter’s death) at least tried to fulfill his duty towards LX’s grandma (who would call Ling Ba to carry out miscellaneous tasks so that. in her own words, LX does not forget this grandma). When grandma was ill, he brought LX to the hospital and stayed with them. He never said bad things about CT to LX no matter how horrible her behaviour was and even tried to reframe it to something positive.
So much negativity from her family of origin, that’s probably one reason why CT is one of the worst characters in the drama. Just look at CT’s brother, forced LX when he was so young to take care of CT alone in Singapore... couldn’t he had flown CT back and play a role too? A very very selfish and negative family.... XCZ was like that too. Thankfully, she had the influence of LX (seeing him contributing quietly, taking care of her) and ZQ guiding her.
I am ready to see CT getting treatment or at least declared with mental illness in the last 2 episodes. That is the only way to soothe all the hurt we see LX suffer in her hands.
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New clip. ZQ gloating about his mum picking him up with an unmbrella because of the heavy downpour. LX not feeling well...
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I am hoping that Ling Ba will have a heart to heart talk with LX. He will explain that the responsibilities lie with the adults. Ling Ba has a part to play and the mum. Moreover, it was an accident. Importantly, LX was so young then and had already done his best to try to save his sister. He is NOT at fault and owes his mum nothing. Finally, knowing what the mum has done to LX, Ling Ba will play a part to ensure mum gets psychiatric attention.
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@phuong1317 I can’t for the life of me see that she will suddenly turn for the better. She seemed to really bend on hurting LX.
From the previews, it seemed she was still trying to set LX up with his female colleague. Even after the female colleague told her LX has a girl friend. It is such a meaningless thing to do cos both parties (LX and the colleague knew they cannot be a couple and mum knew too). My sense is that She did it because she knew he would be upset. She knew how to hurt him. She told LX she couldn’t like JJ, LX (in a I couldn’t care for how you feel attitude) told her “I never forced you to like her.” She was upset and responded that “I just can’t accept her.” LX replied “that’s your choice.” In a fit of anger she shouted “I hate her.” That’s when LX slammed the table.
I don’t blame LX for asking his mum why doesn’t she love him. Her actions thus far are not hurting JJ directly but every action seemed calculated at hurting LX deeply. Perhaps, her torturing LX is really because she believed he is the one who caused the daughter’s death. She couldn’t face up to her own guilt and projected all her guilt on LX. If that’s true, it will answer why even after Ling Ba told her about LX’s mental health issues. She Chose to ignore it. She saw his mental state in Singapore and chose to ignore it too. She is really making LX pay for her guilt.-
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@funnypeopleswim I agree. LX needs his closure for the whole sister’s death accident. He needs to know it is NOT his fault. For a child, when things go wrong at home, like parents divorce, they usually think they have a part to play and feels guilty. In LX’s case, things were made worst cos his mum accused him so viciously in his face. She neglected him and didn’t even cook for him. He probably thought that was his just punishments then. He needs to know it wasn’t his fault and move on with life without this shackle.
Mum will probably have a large part to play in freeing him from this guilt. Perhaps a realisation on his part that mum was mentally unwell then and her blaming him was her selfish way of protecting herself. I can’t imagine her apologising unless she is warded and received treatment and therapy...
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LX and JJ ideal ending:
LX and JJ got married and have a daughter. LX has his hands full managing JJ’s and his daughter’s mischiefs and sweet tooth. His daughter is an exact replica of JJ, doted by ZQ, Ling Ba, Li Ba and XCZ. The daughter is great friend with TC’s and ZB’s (the lawyer) son....
A new clip which includes CT telling LX she hates JJ and LX slams the table in response. Also shows CT in hospital...
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My ideal ending for ZQ:
He became the legal son of HC and brother of JJ through HC's and HM's marriage. ZQ finally found a way to make his cafe a success despite the not so ideal location. The cafe was so successful, he made plans to start a few more. He "adopted" XCZ as his younger sister, inducted her into the Li family, helping her, teaching her and caring for her. Many years later, XCZ (all grown up) expressed her affections for him and he was taken aback but soon realised that he cared very much for XCZ in a romantic way too.
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This drama has been great for me. I have laughed out loud, cried, and got really quite angry watching it. Certain portrayals were quite realistic and I could resonate with some of the struggles the characters face. The drama has a great start. I am hoping the drama will not end terribly. We have 3 more episodes left. Shall we talk about what you think is the ideal ending for:
1) ZQ
2) LX and JJ
3) CT (LX’s mum) and her relationship with her children
4) TC and MY (JJ’s besties)
5) HC (JJ’s dad)
6) HP (LX’s dad)
7) XCZ
8) Any other characters you can think of.
I really want to know what you think and maybe, just maybe, some of our wishes will be fulfilled.
My ideal ending for CT and her relationships with her children:Her mental illness became evident, she tried to hurt JJ and ended up in the hospital. She received treatment but was not completely well. Some days she would be well and would be regretful of her actions and some days she would lapse into her dark hole and accused all of hurting her. She became a long term patient in the mental institution because of her condition. Her children realised that she was unwell and they were not responsible for her illness. They remained filial, visit her at the hospital but were finally free to live their lives.
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JJ caught by MY and XCZ! She had to explain about "sleeping" with LX and ZQ overheard...
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4545530181910563?from=old_pc_videoshow
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XCZ made peace with JJ! She listened to ZQ’s advise and apologised to JJ for what she did when she was younger. JJ assured XCZ that she never bear a grudge against XCZ.
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4545537689714707?from=old_pc_videoshow
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The actress who acted as LX's mum (Yang Tong Shu) has been posting on her own weibo site about her reactions and thoughts to some of the scenes from the drama as well as reacting to netizens' reactions to her character in the drama. She was really quite candid and told netizens to leave comments they have for LX's mum to her and she will let LX's mum know.
In one of her posts, she commented that she was really happy to have met SWL whose acting was great and she really enjoyed those scenes where they needed to act alongside each other. It was a very satisfying experience for her.
For those who reads chinese, here's her weibo page. https://weibo.com/yangtongshu07?is_all=1
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@hush puppy I do notice that the netizens can get really critical of SWL's acting. But I am seriously impressed with his acting in this drama. I agree; his eyes can really act. So many of the scenes he had with LX's mum was so good, I wanted to swoop down and rescue him away from her. So many of the scenes he had with JJ was so good too. i like the scene where he left the eatery out of frustration and JJ ran after him. JJ asked what he did when he was in Singapore... He talked about thinking of her, missing home etc... he looked so vulnerable then... My maternal instincts were stirred. If JJ did not hug him, i would... He gave off very mature vibes as an actor for someone so young. Well done!
I have also noticed that certain Chinese netizens can get quite heated up; moreover, they have a lot of power and can do serious damage to actors/actresses' career. i recall Xiao Zhan (肖战) debacle. He was so sought after even had a major role to play during the Lunar New Year Celebration Show ( an annual event; a very important variety show that all actors/actresses want to appear on). For reasons not within his control or even his fault, he suffered all the backlash due to heated arguments between fans... now his drama series are in cold storage...
SWL appeared quite reticent in many of the recent interviews which seemed different from his earlier interviews. To navigate the harsh realities of show business industry at such a young age must not be easy and very likely will take a toll. I really hope he has a good mentor to guide him.
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Sigh... I am really tired of LX’s mum scenes. Too long drawn... they spend too much time making people really disliked this character....with 4 episodes left.
The way the netizens complained, sounded like death for her is the only acceptable closure.
My fear is that with 4 episodes left, they will rush through and not give LX and his mum’s relationship a proper closure...this may taint the enjoyment of the whole drama-
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She scares me too. She knew what to do to cause maximum damage and hurt. She had been observing her son and knew the shoes and photos meant a lot to him and she destroyed them. She could calmly say “I threw your shoes away because they are worn out, I’ll buy you a new pair. You don’t need these photos cos you will see the persons daily...”
LX should be given sainthood for staying with her...
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Looking at how LX’s mum cut up LX’s childhood photos with JJ and ZQ, I am also wondering whether LX is fearful of his mum doing bodily harm to JJ. That could be the reason why he dashed back when he found out that his mum saw JJ outside his flat and asked for JJ to open the door for her. That could also be the reason why LX told JJ to stay away from his mum and if she sees his mum again to run the opposite direction and as far as possible.
XCZ also insisted in telling both ZQ and JJ about what the mum did to LX’s photos back in Singapore. “They need to know how crazy our mum can get so that they are better prepared.” XCZ explained. This is like a premonition of things to come...
Furthermore, tomorrow’s episode will show XCZ siding ZQ when mum accused ZQ of evil intentions to have XCZ working in his cafe. Mum may begin to feel the desperation of her children pulling away from her. In retaliation, she may hurt JJ so that she is removed from their lives...
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It is really difficult to watch LX’s mum’s behaviour in the latest 2 episodes.... not sure why the Writers r dragging this out. So difficult to see LX and XCZ and JJ suffer...
She had the audacity to accuse LX of preferring his father to her. LX replied because he cares for him. When LX asked her why she doesn’t care for him, it nearly broke my heart. For a child to ask his mother that question is almost begging her to love him. Sigh... all she could think about was to get rid of JJ as if JJ disappears from LX’s life, he will be hers...
Frankly, I am so frustrated at this point. LX’s mother’s craziness is dragged out far too long In the drama it is beginning to feel repetitive. I can’t bear to see LX, JJ and XCZ suffer anymore.
@Mercipourleslivres I join u at rioting.
It is so tiring to see LX’s mother milk her “disability” and misfortune to her advantage.
She believes that she is a victim and certain people hate her. She pushed these people away and treated these people in a way so that they couldn’t come near her. That perpetuates her belief that she is the victim and goes around acting and telling people she is the victim. How tiring... for her and for people around her especially her 2 kids.
I agree with LX. She is a black hole and nothing he does can fill up that hole. He needs to draw boundaries with her. He will only care for her based on his terms NOT hers.
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I am not sure China still holds filial piety as that important. After the cultural revolution, much has changed. In Southeast Asia, Hong Kong and Taiwan, Chinese are more bound to traditional roots of 三从四德, albeit, not to the tee. Because the Chinese in these countries are not affected by cultural revolution. The younger generation in China do consider certain confuscius teachings as backward. Eg. You have a married couple and it is uncommon to address the wife as Mrs XXX. The children of couple can take mum’s surname or a combination too. Not that common in Southeast Asia, Hong Kong and Taiwan. Thus, you have the very outspoken netizens in China who lashed out at LX for being mama’s boy.
To me, Li Ba’s character is very unusual in current China’s context. He encourages JJ to remember relatives beyond usual lunar new year visits etc.
I have a feeling that this show is also trying to promote familial relationships and togetherness in China. That’s just my 3 cents’ worth.
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@cheekychipmunk_stv I think the people who made those comments are used to watching romantic idol dramas where they expect the male leads (usually a self-made rich man) to "protect" the female lead (usually a weak damsel in distress) at all cost to the point of being aggressive. Perhaps, I exaggerated but you get my point. So LX's lack of direct confrontation with his mother thus far was seen as weak and being a mama's boy. They expect LX to tell the mother off, call her out for all her mean behaviour and sever ties with his mother at the drop of a hat (although I must say such thoughts r beginning to appeal to me too. My patience with LX's mum is wearing thin).
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Latest clip: LX rushes home to find JJ tearing after meeting his mum.
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4545013859753991#&video
I recalled the black hole reference. LX feeling helpless and hopeless even after confronting his mum and told her not to hurt JJ, not even saying a hurtful sentence towards her.
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@cheekychipmunk_stv I thought the voice over (at end of the clip) gave a sense of hope that his dead sister has forgiven him since he doesn’t dream of her anymore and whatever he owed his mum has been paid. Although it was a question he asked but it definitely is more positive cos he doesn’t dream of her anymore.
However, it does imply he feels guilty towards his dead sister and he has a debt to pay regarding his mum... that’s my biggest peeve and I know I have said this too many times... LX, it is NOT your fault at all.
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@visiopeia Boy Girl Relationships as opposed to BL (Boys Love). In China, they have the Boy Boy Relationships category for drama like the Untamed.
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I really like Song Wei Long’s acting in some of the scenes in this show. Given LX’s character as a person who doesn’t really expresses his feelings and thoughts openly, he acted with his eyes. I really felt the pain and insecurities. Especially, how he stared at JJ (when she turned away) after his so-called proposal. I’m sure he was thinking of how he really wanted to be with her and yet feeling the pain of drawing her into his complicated family background, the insecurities of whether she can and will continue to love him etc... Not to mention the kiss scenes. He is really good at those scenes. He had some super cheesy lines like the watermelon scenes where he told JJ he is hers forever since the day she took him home. Because of the way he looked at her when he spoke, I believed him and forgot how cheesy those lines were. No wonder that some netizens called him “the nation’s boyfriend for BGR”.
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[Mainland Chinese Drama 2020] Go Ahead 以家人之名
in Mainland China
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@cheekychipmunk_stv Frankly, I am not completely satisfied with the drama’s wrap up for CT’s portion of the story. It felt very forced. She had been so angry and bitter for so long. Her actions and words had showed forth that bitterness and anger all targetted at LX. She had all these crazy outbursts...Suddenly, drama explained it as selfish love which stamped from insecurities. It doesn’t add up. How she screamed and blamed LX for killing his sister? How is that not explained. How she cuts up his photos and threw away his priced shoes?
Yes. I’m very upset that even CT gets an apology from Ling Ba and LX gets nothing from anyone!!! I’m going to take it that Ling Ba did have the heart to heart talk but drama didn’t show and assumed we know. But CT owes him that apology. If drama wants to give CT clarity of mind then she should apologise for that horrible accusation thrown at LX.
XX’s (LX’s colleague) pointing CT to JJ’s anonymous letter is the turning point for CT is really too shoddy a way for CT to receive insight to her behaviour. It makes the counselling and mental health profession a mockery.
At least, her suicide was not complete and I love how LX told her to live on if she was truly sorry and so that she could make amends.