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  1. NYJ is always three steps ahead of the others. Seon has now become NYJ's puppet king and this is important. Even if Seon is recommended by LJJ and MYR, both are thinking that Seon will obey them. Seon threatens LJJ so that the latter is forced to accept Seon as the future VIP center director. MYR believes that NYJ just helped them by proposing Seon. However, both sides are being played in the end. Seon will only listen to NYJ as he is the one who made his dream come true. But at some point, SMS will have to face the consequences of his actions.
  2. NYJ is letting LJJ know because he is using the info in order to divert his attention. He has already predicted that either his sister or doctor Han will be kidnapped in order to blackmail him. That's why he will use Seon as pawn. Little by little, more and more people are working with him. Even LJH was interested in this as he knew that the driver intended to kill him.
  3. Yoon Young will die in the end, as she never wanted to be protected by Dal Mon. So next week, we will witness Mil Pong's final fall.
  4. @gm4queen Yes, NYJ is well aware that LJI and her mother are just interested in the inheritance but don't forget that he is not really siding with them. He doesn't give all his info. That's why I am convinced that NYJ despises them too as they show no concern for others. NYJ is determined to protect the weak ones from the powerful ones. That's why he is asking different "weak" people for their help. Like he pointed out, the more they are working together, the more they can defeat the powerful ones. Besides, we were given the impression that Oh Jung Hee was framed as well hence NYJ had no problem to help her get a stay of execution. He knows that she is not a bad person. NYJ obtained the support from An Jin Chun. From my point of view, NJY will come to help AJC to cut ties with his wife's family. Notice that he is trying in the long run to correct the wrong verdicts. Notice that MYR's husband is not dead. He has been just lying in bed for three years, however LJH and MYR show more concern for the inheritance than for the CEO's health. They don't question why he became so sick like that. Their greed and their selfishness are the reasons why "weak" people get hurt and this is what NYJ is trying to stop. NYJ had no idea that LJJ had Han So Geum as psychiatrist.
  5. LJJ wants to become the next CEO but he is not really interested to become the director of Taekang Hospital and the new VIP hospital. However, the position of the hospital director is important in that quarrel for the succession therefore he needs someone who will be his ally. If he becomes the CEO of taekang Group, then he can nominate someone who will become the next hospital director. That's why he needs someone on his side. However, he knew that Seon was just greedy and was not entirely trustworthy. Seon's biggest wish was to be recognized as powerful, to become famous. He wanted to make people forget about his malpractice which ruined his reputation in the first place. Notice that on the paper, he was just the director of that prison, while in reality he was the real owner of that hospital. So he was working in the shadow which Seon only saw as a step. LJJ used doctor Ko in order to get rid his threads. Assemblyman Jung had files against LJJ and Seon represented a thread as he knew that he would try to use the files for his own advantage. As conclusion, Seon will be framed for Jung's death. He had the means, the motives and the opportunity, LJJ set him up. For the first time, Seon will experience what unfairness and injustice means. So far, he doesn't see his wrongdoings hence he shows no regret. LJH is showing no remorse either therefore his real punishment will be, when his family loses the seat of the CEO, so that he has no longer powerful connections. I hope, this could answer your questions. You are right: LJJ's illness is a weakness, especially since his illness can affect his judgement.
  6. @gm4queen I was away for a few days hence I could only watch the latest episodes today. In my opinion, NYJ is not just targeting LJJ. Yes, the latter is responsible for the death of the mute couple and their unborn child therefore he knows the true personality of LJJ. But I have the impression that there is more to it because if his true enemy was just LJJ, why didn't he side with MYR and LJI from the start? Notice that he uses their support but he doesn't rely on them entirely. He uses LJH as tool for a bargain, yet he never asked for their support in order to protect Bit Na. No, he lets them in the dark... Furthermore he knows about the future meeting and the importance of the shares. Notice that Seon signed a contract selling his shares from Haeun Hospital and so did the other relatives. Then he asked Oh Jung Hee to change the hospital's legacy: create a just world. That's why in my opinion, his true purpose is to change Taekang Group and Taekang Hospital so that neither LJJ nor LJH nor his mother get the inheritance, especially the hospital. If he gets the shares, then he can become the next CEO. Moreover, if he owns Haeun Hospital... this can change the vote in his favor. Since they are all focused on their own interests and believe that he wants to get revenge, they don't think that NJY has a different purpose. What do you think about this?
  7. @zenya22 That’s why it is clear that doctor Ha never loved WHK in reality. He abandoned her, when she was hurt and he didn’t even help SJW for the surgery on WHK. He betrayed his friend out of jealousy. I hope, he will suffer the most due to his misdeeds.
  8. @gm4queen For me, it was clear that NYJ was not just fighting against Seon. But the latest episode revealed that he knew from the start who was the true villain, LJJ. He is the tiger. This means that he must know about the murder attempt against LJH with the car.
  9. He is wearing colored contact lenses that’ s why he has brown eyes now.
  10. No I didn't. Could you tell me in which scene it appeared? However, I can not write any analysis any longer because I am about to travel for one week.
  11. Because he can control him better. Notice that after her last action, KIW started acting like crazy... with YMR by his side, KIW will release his anger towards her, instead of confronting his father. While YMR was away, the father threatened KIW but the latter didn't move one bit. The father couldn't use fear to his advantage. With YMR by his side, KIW is like a puppy. But since YMR has a different face, it will never go back the way it was. That's why KIW will blackmail YMR by threatening her to commit suicide. I guess, the father will realize that he needs to get rid of YMR. She doesn't look like his wife any longer.
  12. In my opinion, KIW's father is abusing his son mentally because he is actually covering up his crime. From my point of view, KIW has been brainwashed by his own father who told him that his mother abandoned him by committing suicide. However, I suspect that in reality his mother tried to protect her son, she came back to take him and her husband shot her. She was killed by him. And his own son could have realized that hence he told KIW these lies. He knew what his mother meant to him. By telling him that she committed suicide therefore she abandoned him, the chairman hurt KIW so much so that he wouldn't pay attention to the details and his own memories. That's why the father can insult KIW as weak. He expected, KIW would come to resent his mother for leaving him behind. The reason why I suspect that his mother was killed is this: Notice that her wound is on her chest and not on her head. Secondly the way she is holding her gun. In an earlier episode, I had seen the blood on the chest but I thought, this could have been a mistake. However, this time the scene was much longer. KIW never saw his mother's suicide, he only heard the gun shot. And notice that in the preview, he is trying to act like "his mother", point the gun to his head.... The reasons why I suspect the father for killing his wife are the following: - He was bothered that YMR looked like his wife... he was afraid that this might trigger KIW's memory of this night - Secondly, he was happy that his son would treat YMR like he did with his wife. Her running away revealed that the lies he had told KIW had worked. - Furthermore he talked about betrayal to KIW once while he was hunting. In my opinion, he was talking about betrayal as if he had experienced it himself. So the mother came back to take her son... and she would leave him for real. - Finally, he shows so much concern for YMR. Why? Because she could trigger something KIW which would make him realize that he had been manipulated by his father all along. Therefore I come to the conclusion that KIW could be shot by his father, as the latter is trying to kill YMR. that's how he will realize what happened back then. Now, we know where KIW went in the first episode. The villa looked a lot like the villa YMR was sent after KIW took her from the hospital. The secretary told him that this villa is used by the chairman. That's how KIW will realize what true love is. His mother loved him so much that she risked her own life to take him away from his father. @zenya22 @lu09 @tiMadam @ktcjdrama Let me know what you think about it!
  13. Unlike you, I don't wish KSH to join his hands with KHW and YJH because they are just considering him and even DHJ as tools for their revenge. They are not better than Do in my eyes. What KHW and YJH are not aware of is the deep relationship between KSH and LYE. They don't know how both are linked to the past therefore KHW saw his "love" for LYE as a weakness. Nevertheless, the detective's feelings for KSH could play in his favor in the end. She will try to dig deeper than the prosecutor Yoon wants her to. From my point of view, their plan is to use KSH as scapegoat. The investigation will reveal: Subject 88 survived therefore he sought revenge. Yet, this plan is not going to work for three reasons: - Do and his accomplice haven't stopped their "business" - DHJ/LYE's real past will come to play a huge part in her investigation. She saw that someone took care of the wound of Kang Seul Gi. The latter saw Pavel killing her grandfather and the man and not KSH. DHJ will figure it out on her own. Furthermore, she remembered Tae Soo as terrible man that's why she will find out that he was the one who poisoned the politician Seo. - KSH will do anything to stop Do's business which contradicts the revenge. KSH will look for the new "orphanage" with the kids.
  14. @Yana Mujay Thanks a lot for the compliment! Actually, the title itself mirrors the relationship between a master and his dog. The master gives the order to the "dog" to kill another "dog". The title is not "kill him" or "kill her"! And this underlines why Ko Hyun Woo is not different from his enemy Do Jae Hwan. He treats Soo Hyun like a dog. @nateko @cheesethatnotsocheesey A detail caught my attention. The prosecutor's name and the secretary's name sound so similar; Yoon Jae Hyun and Yoon Ji Hye. In my opinion, they are working together as they are related. First, he knows a lot about Hansol orphanage. He gave info to DHJ in order to get closer to her but in order to lead her into the "right" direction. From my point of view, Yoon Jae Hyun is there to use Do Hyun Ji. She is supposed to arrest the serial killer, 88. Once he is caught, Yoon Jae Hyun will stop the investigation so that Ko Hyun Woo will not become the target of the investigation. He can get his revenge without being arrested and even suspected. But I hope, Do Hyun Ji will be smarter and even discover the whole truth. First of all, Ko Hyun Woo and his accomplices are not interested in stopping the illegal organ transplants. Ji Hye is well aware about this because she is close to the chairman Do. Yet, she doesn't do anything to stop this. I hope, Kim Soo Hyun survives all this because in the end, he was just a tool for these evil persons who always saw him as a tool or as a killing machine. Furthermore, I also hope that Do Hyun Ji realizes the prosecutor's involvement very soon. In the preview, he keeps talking about the past and shows no interest to the present. She needs to question his knowledge. How does he know all this? I am also curios about his relationship with Ko Hyun Woo.
  15. @philosophie @nateko @blademan Kill it: Masters and dogs Kim Soo Hyun the dog and his masters Episode 1: our main protagonist Kim Soo Hyun during a training as assassin. The first episode starts with a young boy running in the woods in Russia. Although we don’t know the child’s identity, right from the start the viewer realizes that the boy with strange blue eyes is trained to become an assassin because of the rules told by an adult, the boy’s master: Rule number 1: Never reveal a client’s identity to anyone Rule number 2: Never keep a witness alive Rule number 3: Stay alive It is clear that during his training, the boy is remembering his master’s rules, until he has to face a dog. Pavel orders Kim Soo Hyun to kill the dog. While watching this scene, I couldn’t help myself associating this terrible training to the famous experiment of the Russian physiologist Ivan Pavlov with dogs. First, Pavel sounds so similar to Pavlov, then we hear and see a dog. For further explanations, you can read about it there: https://educationalgames.nobelprize.org/educational/medicine/pavlov/readmore.html The Russian scientist developed the classical conditioning/Pavlovian Conditioning and in the K-drama, we see how Pavel is using the same method in order to turn our main character into a killer. Yet, in this scene Pavel fails as the boy refuses to kill the dog. The reason is quite simple: Kim Soo Hyun perceives himself as a dog (see the first picture above) hence he can not shoot his “parent”. Besides, both have blue eyes reinforcing their similarities. The “dog” Kim Soo Hyun refuses to obey its master hence the latter punishes the boy. Yet in the long run, our main character can not escape his fate: he becomes a professional killer. On the other hand, his stubbornness to defy Pavel’s order in this scene allowed him to keep dogs around him. His closeness to animals and especially dogs let him become a veterinarian on the surface. However, the more episodes we see, the more human Kim Soo Hyun becomes. He starts protecting more and more people: first Kang Seul Ki, a young girl whom KSH refused to eliminate, although she was a witness in a murder. Later, he takes care of Pavel who is suffering from dementia like a good son and even tries to protect Pavel till the end. The assassin Pavel regrets his decision to have turned KSH into a killer and advises him to live like a normal person. Then he doesn’t kill Tae Soo and the witness, although he could have. We see that little by little, KSH’s conditioning is disappearing. First, he started questioning Pavel’s rules. Finally, Kim Soo Hyun even refuses to follow his client’s order (episode 6). We can see that KSH is no longer following orders. The question is now, if Kim Soo Hyun will be able to take control of his life, as so far he has lived more like a dog obeying to his masters: Pavel, Philip Ahn and the clients. The congressman Seo Won Seok, Tae Soo and the chairman Do Jae Hwan However, Kim Soo Hyun is not the only “dog” in this story. Episode 5: the congressman Seo Won Seok talking to Tae Soo Notice the words used by the congressman. He never mentions the word “dog”, nevertheless he is referring to this animal as he keeps talking about a leash. The man describes himself as a dog who did the dirty work for his master: “blood on our hands”. The master gave him the order “kill it”. The beholder gets aware that just like Kim Soo Hyun, Seo Won Seok is unwilling to remain like a dog. He wants to become the master himself, which is different from just taking control of his own life. So Seo Won Seok’s goal is different: his greed and ambition are his motivations, while Kim Soo Hyun desires to protected his loved ones. episode 6: Tae Soo with the chairman Do Jae Hwan While the chairman Jo is looking at his hand, he claims that his position as master should never been questioned. He considers himself superior to Tae Soo and the congressman Seo Won Seok. He is not just a master, he is even the owner of the dog. That’s why this terrible man has no problem to order Tae Soo to get rid of the “dog” Seo Won Seok as he is no longer obeying his orders. The master will never dirty his hands, although he is the real murderer and mastermind. Tae Soo doesn’t question Do Jare Hwan’s position at all. He accepts it as a normality. But will he remain by his side, once he realizes that he could have the same fate than Seo Won Seok. Do Jae Hwan keeps saying that at some point, he needs to get rid of people, since they represent a thread and a burden. The scientist Ko Hyeon Woo episode 3: the scientist Ko Hyeon Woo is willing to leave the company because he wants to protect his research. He thinks that only the doctor Joo Young Hoon abused his position. On the surface, the scientist might appear as a good man because he values the lives of the children. However, it becomes clear that he has always viewed these children as his “dogs”, they represent the result of his researches. That’s why he has no problem to use Kim Soo Hyun, one of his “children” to get revenge on the chairman Do Jae Hwan and his accomplices. Sure, he resents KSH even more because he is biologically related to the chairman Do. However, in the episode 6, he is willing to use Kang Seul Ki in order to get more info about the killer he hired. He knows Kang Seul Ki’s fate but he doesn’t feel sorry at all. Furthermore, he has no problem to attempt to kill one of the orphans, Do Hyun Jin/Lee Young Eun. He behaves like a master and treats the children from that orphanage like his puppets. He is in reality not different from the chairman Do. As conclusion: As time passes on, the killer behaves more and more like a human, whereas the opposite happens to the scientist Ko, the congressman Seo and the chairman Do. In the name of revenge or ambition or greed, these men have no problem to get rid of people.
  16. @nateko Almost done catching up! I have to say that the scientist Ko Hyeon Woo is not different from the chairman Jo Jae Hwan. He knows that the killer is number 88 and keeps calling him like that. He just considers 88 as a killing machine that's why he wants him to pay for his failure. In reality, the scientist is not doing it for the sake of these killed kids. He is just determined to ruin the chairman Jo and his accomplices for ruining his life. If he had the interest of the kids from that orphanage in his heart, he wouldn't try to hurt 88 and LYE. I hope, KSH survives all this because in the end, he is the biggest victim. He only became a killer because he had no other choice. LYE became a detective because she was lucky to escape a terrible fate.
  17. Seon will try to reveal that NYJ used the stay of prosecution in order to get rid of his nemesis. However, I am quite sure that NYJ was not the one who killed the two persons like Seon assumes. Notice that NYJ used the psychopath's case in order to reveal the involvement of doctors from Taekyang hospital. NYJ is leading the prosecutor to unveil the whole truth. Han Bit was the analyst from the chairman and he knows the involvement of LJJ. The latter discovered that he was not supposed to inherit the Group therefore he got rid of his father and his friend, the assemblyman Jung. I have this idea that the chairman could have chosen a different heir because he knew that LJJ would get sick very soon. Notice that he is showing symptoms of an illness: dropping the bottle/glass and his face... It is not just about his narcolepsy.
  18. @gm4queen welcome to this thread! I also joined this thread later because I had to wait until Touch your heart was finished. However, I really like this drama. I was right about the downfall of director Seon: the drugs and the embezzlement would be used against him. However, I had never suspected that the prisoners would be used for illegal drugs, as test subjects. Although I haven't watched the episode 8 yet, the change of BN's behaviour seems to indicate the abuse of drugs. I was also surprised how NYJ punished the psychopath and in reality the stay of execution was just an illusion.
  19. I am still convinced that there were two men in black: SM's father and another one. When SM asked JS's father to search for the man he saw, SM wanted him to find his father, while the other thought that SM had seen the real culprit hence he didn't write any statement from SM.
  20. Confession: a mystery evolving around confessions and its implications This K-drama deals about a lawyer, Choi Do Hyun who is trying to find the truth about his father’s crime. Our main protagonist believes that his father has been innocent, however the latter had confessed his crime from the start. This K-drama started airing just three weeks ago on TVN and so far, it is quite entertaining because of the script and the acting. Lee Joon Ho as Choi Do Hyun and Yoo Jae Myung as the detective Ki Choon Ho are doing a terrific job. What caught my attention was the title “Confession” because after 6 episodes, it becomes clear that the main topic of this K-drama is indeed confession. In each episode, the viewer sees different kind of confessions. Han Joon Gu and his confessions In the first episode, the criminal Han Joon Gu kept calling the police in order to tease them as they had not caught the murderer. Indirectly, the police and the prosecution used these calls as evidence that he was in fact the killer. But at his trial, he retracted his confession. A retracted confession is a statement made by an accused person before the trial begins, by which he / she admits to have committed the offence, but which he/she repudiate at the trial. This gave the impression that the police could have use violence in order to obtain his confession. episode 1 the accused Han Joon Gu Our male protagonist is able to defend his client so that Han Joon Gu is found not guilty. Then 5 years later, a similar crime occurs and all the evidence is pointing out Han Joon Gu. The latter had just left the prison a few days ago. The lawyer is now facing a dilemma: he knows now that Han Joon Gu had killed the victim Yang Ae Ran 5 years ago but he is well aware that this time his client is innocent. episode 3: Han Joon Gu confessing his crime This time, his confession creates a scandal. The double jeopardy protects him from being prosecuted for the murder. He has been found innocent due to lack of evidence 5 years ago and now he is once again released. His lawyer with the detective’s help could prove his innocence for the second murder. Besides, the prosecution can not press charges against Han Joon Gu for the same crime despite his confession. 2. The nurse Cho She is Choi Do Hyun’s second client. The prosecution accuses the nurse of committing a professional mistake but later changes the charges. Now, the patient’s death is considered as a murder. During the trial, the nurse remains quiet so that her silence is used as evidence against her. Only at the final hearing, she confesses her crime explaining how it happened. The victim had sexually assaulted her in the past. Her confession contrasts so much to Han Joon Gu’s confession as it shows the pain of the defendant. episode 5 Yet, this doesn’t end here as the nurse confesses to Choi Do Hyun’s friend Han Yu Ri that 10 years ago no one asked her anything, when Han Yu Ri’s father died. So her words imply that back then a crime occurred and she was involved in the death of Han Yu Ri’s father. 3. Choi Pil Soo and his confession episode 6 : Choi Pil Soo is holding a gun, there is a witness and the crime has just happened. Unlike in the other cases, the confession is made right after the crime, when the detective Ki Choon Ho arrives at the crime scene. Choi Do Hyun’s father admits the crime immediately without any emotion. Besides, he never gives an explanation or a motive for the murder. Furthermore, after his confession, he remains silence and even cuts ties with his own son. Yet, it becomes clear that Choi Pil Soo admitted the crime in exchange for his son’s surgery. Choi Do Hyun had a heart transplant shortly after his father’s trial. Here there is a conspiracy where the confession was used as the best evidence in order to cover up the real murderers and the motive, corruption. @thistle @ktcjdrama @reut
  21. @reut @zaireen To me, it was pretty clear that the nurse Cho is involved in the main case. First, there is this parallel between the heart transplant of CDH and JH. Both were on a waiting list, when suddenly the person before them died. Then the other clue was given, when the prosecutor was asked by his superior not charge the nurse Cho for murder. He might have feared that the nurse Cho could leak something. The third clue came, when the nurse Cho confessed to Ha Yoo Ri that back then no one had asked her about the sudden death. She was indirectly implying that her father's death was suspicious which triggered HYR to go through her father's belongings. So, now we know the identity of the heart donor: No Sun Hoo. He was a prosecutor in the anti-corruption department. So we have three deaths: the police officer Yoon Chul Min, the prosecutor No Sun Hoo and the journalist, Ha Yu Ri's father connected to a corruption scandal which got covered up due to their deaths. Each death was also different so that no one could see a pattern in this: accident, a sick patient and a suicide. It looks like the drug pethidine was used to kill HYR's father. The nurse Cho might have been forced to do it... she is somehow related to the actual suspect Cho Ki Tak.
  22. The importance of camera position Now let’s take a closer look at the camera position in Love In Sadness. Striking is that the director often uses a duplication of a character. This special effect was first used with YMR. By duplicating Yoon Ma Ri, the director wanted to convey an important message. Notice that the second version is fading away, she is disappearing. And this is no coincidence. YMR is about to lose herself, her soul by remaining by her husband's side. She is not even allowed to choose her own clothes. She lives trapped in a cage hence the window with the bare reflects her actual position: she is a prisoner. She is not even allowed to paint outdoors which explains why her latest painting looks so gloomy and depressing. She can no longer paint as she has run out of energy and inspiration. So this explains why the second YMR is disappearing, she is about to lose her own identity and her soul. SJW in the episode 13 The director had used the same special effect with SJW in an earlier episode so this is the second time that SJW is shown twice. Here, SJW is eating alone in his dining room. YMR wants to keep her distance from him until he knows how to face YMR. She will wait for him until he will solely think of her with this face. This taking should be perceived that way: the old SJW is slowly disappearing, the man who loved WHK but was hurt by her. As time passes on, SJW starts missing YMR more and more. This taking reinforces the loneliness of the surgeon but also his need for YMR’s presence. In this scene, there is no dialogue at all however the director is trying to convey SJW’s inner thoughts and feelings. Just like in the other scene mentioned above, the camera is placed behind a glass so that the viewer can feel that SJW has been living in a prison that he created himself. KIW with his gun: episode 14 Before I start analyzing this scene, it is important to put this scene in the context. Finally KIW has been able to locate YMR’s mother. He even heard that YMR had been there just before his arrival and he even missed her for a few minutes. Moreover, he has realized the connection between YMR and the surgeon SJW because YMR’s mother mentioned the presence of her son-in-law. KIW is upset and even jealous that YMR seems to have replaced him with another man, he already suspects the doctor. We shouldn’t forget that KIW had a nightmare a few nights ago (episode 13), where he dreamt, he was running after his bride YMR, only to witness the appearance of another groom. When he is finally able to reach YMR, he identifies the groom as SJW and is surprised to discover that the bride running away was WHK which confused him. So now our antihero KIW knows that there is a man around YMR therefore KIW returns home, totally upset and enraged. Even YMR’s mother dared to call the other man her son-in-law. KIW has the impression that his worst nightmare has become true. However, he still doesn’t know that YMR has WHK’s face. Just like in the other duplication scenes, the camera is put behind the window, we can also see the frame reinforcing the idea that KIW lives in his own world, a prison he has created himself. So after his arrival, he takes the gun from the dresser. If you look at the first picture of this scene, KIW is seen twice. However, it changes a little because the two pictures reveals that the duplication is incomplete. It was as if there were three KIW standing, yet the two other reflections are partially visible. This mirrors his own inner conflict: will he use the gun or not? Notice that his gaze is always directed at the gun. So far, KIW has never revealed this side of him in front of other people. Only YMR could see this terrible and dangerous side. But his rage and violence is so huge that at the end, he is resolved to use the gun. The final taking of the same scene: KIW with his gun That’s why the viewer sees this duplication at the end. KIW is determined to use violence in order to catch his wife. To me, the second reflection represents the monster in him which is now visible. The snake that has been hiding behind his charisma and his mysterious aura is now shown to the world. He doesn’t care anymore about his reputation. This explains why KIW wears his leather jacket and threatens HSH and later JHR. He is even more vicious with JHR because he resents her for her manipulation and her arrogance. This is when he aims his gun at JHR’s face Unlike in the former taking, KIW is now aiming his gun at a real person, while before he was just aiming at the window. To conclude, the effect of duplication is often used by this director in order to let the viewers perceive what the characters are thinking and feeling but also to reflect their own situation. All of them are living in a cage, caught by fear and by their own past and emotions. The only difference is that YMR’s cage was not self-created in opposition to SJW and KIW. @zenya22 @MidnightRain @lolly84 @avondale16 @ktcjdrama @tiMadam @lu09
  23. @zenya22 Thank you so much for analyzing the painting with the rosemary and the ship. You are definitely correct. KIW interprets the picture differently from what YMR is actually trying to say. Now, I feel the need to complete your analysis of this painting. From YMR's perspective, this painting could be perceived in two different ways: She is the lost ship using the bottle with the rosemary as she is sending a SOS. Yes, the sea could symbolize KIW trying to control YMR. The fury of the sea and the storm fits to KIW's rage and violence. She could drown if the power of the sea is too strong illustrating that if she is caught, she might die. The second meaning is different. Since YMR's name resembles the plant rosemary, the bottle could embody YMR leaving KIW, the huge ship. The plant is so small compared to the ship which mirrors KIW's power and wealth. Don't forget that I had already pointed out that SJW and YMR are connected to nature, while KIW is associated through his fortune to civilization. This picture not only represents her last attempt to escape from KIW's claws, it also symbolizes the despair of YMR. She is even willing to risk her own life as she has no idea if she will be found and rescued. The picture illustrates her courage as she entrusts her destiny to nature and chance. Concerning our antihero, KIW interprets this painting in the opposite way: KIW is the rosemary in the bottle, while YMR is the ship. In his eyes, the ship is abandoning the rosemary. He doesn't see the struggle of the titling ship. For him, the painting illustrates the abandonment and betrayal of YMR. Like he kept saying before, without her he can not live and this picture illustrates his own thoughts. He still sees himself as a powerless man depending on his wife. The huge waves and the storm represents the world menacing him: his father, his step-mother and his other enemies. Without her guidance, KIW considers himself as lost and he needs her by his side so that he can overcome this dangerous world. But if we see it from his perspective, his interpretation indicates his blindness. He overlooks that the rosemary hasn't been thrown away, but it was put in a bottle as a protection so that it can not drown. Moreover, like I had mentioned it before, he overlooks the problem that the ship is facing. He also ignores the significance of this gesture: titling ship asking for help. As conclusion, KIW's interpretation of that painting outshines KIW's lack of self-awareness. He doesn't see himself as a dangerous and violent man, somehow he seems to be trapped in the past, as if he was a little boy. To sum up, the interpretation of a painting is also influenced by the beholder's mentality. Sure, if we know more about the painter, the beholder is able to understand the emotions and the message of the creator, yet the beholder is free to interpret the picture differently, I mean, to add a different meaning/message. In the end, there is no right or wrong, by analyzing a picture. @ktcjdrama @lolly84 @avondale16 @rocher22@MidnightRain @lu09 @tiMadam
  24. Love in Sadness : a definition of true love SJW’s mother is gardening while talking to Yoon Ma Ri. In the episode 14, we discover why the writer chose to name this drama “Love in Sadness”. In this episode, YMR visits SJW’s mother, Im Yun Hwa (IYH), as she is the director of a nursing facility. Here, IYH shows YMR her garden with her flowers. YMR is now able to understand why SJW loves flowers so much. He got his passion from his mother. In this scene, the mother chooses to plant a gentian and this is what she says to her guest: Notice that the gentian here is purple and not dark blue Most of the species have beautiful blue vivid petals. These words and her action reveal a lot about SJW’s mother. She doesn’t perceive YMR as a burden because she has WHK’s face. In fact, she views the young woman as a good omen. In my opinion, when she explains the origin of the gentian in her garden, she was making an analogy. YMR is like the gentian that suddenly appeared in her garden. No one expected her appearance but she had an impact on SJW’s life and heart. Then during their conversation, IYH explains the meaning of the gentian, love in sadness. For her, if a person can embrace someone’s sorrow, then it is true love. Then she adds that her son is looking for a love like that. With her words, IYH is trying to covey to YMR that her son truly loves her. In this scene, we can see how much IYH loves her son and she wants to make sure that YMR doesn’t misunderstand SJW because he gave her WHK’s face. The viewer already knows that YMR is well aware of SJW’s deep feelings for her. Due to the former episodes, we had the impression that the writer chose this title because of tragic loves (the story of Hyacinth and Adonis) and had more tragedy in his mind. However with this revelation, I came to realize that the writer had a different intention, as love in Sadness has a different meaning: true love. Notice that all this time, SJW, KIW, HSH and JHR have been struggling due to a loved one. But were they really in love? Was it love or obsession or illusion or self-deception? SJW thought that he loved WHK because he accepted everything from her and never argued with her. He actually fell more in love with her face and lived in an illusion as he never wanted to see WHK for whom she really was. To me, SJW didn’t truly love WHK because he faked happiness. Like IYH said, true love is when a person can embrace his/her partner’s sorrow. Right now, we have the impression that WHK was a selfish and ruthless woman but I believe that WHK might have been hiding a huge secret from SJW and his friends. JHR thinks that WHK had an abortion but just before the accident happened, she had cold hands and she complained about her stomach. I have the feeling that WHK could have been dying. If my theory is correct, she didn’t want to burden her husband’s happiness. Maybe in her own way, she tried to make SJW, HSH and even JHR happy, unaware that SJW had already caught her. She thought that JHR would reveal the abortion to SJW so that it would create a riff between herself and SJW. Maybe she thought that at some point, SJW would turn to JHR and find solace in his friend’s arms. If WHK was really dying, then she feared that SJW wouldn’t be able to overcome her death. As conclusion, it is definitely possible that WHK ruined her reputation on purpose. Right now, SJW is clearly in love with YMR because he is not afraid of confronting her or risking his own life for her. He knows her trauma and will do anything for her. But now, what about JHR? Does she really love SJW? In my opinion, she is not in love with him. Based on her conversations with KIW, it becomes clear that JHR is longing for love. She has the impression that she has never been loved. episode 14 The words she is saying to KIW could be perceived as if she was talking to herself. She thinks that SJW never loved her which is wrong. SJW did love her but as a sister, as a part of his family but for her, it was not love. Furthermore, she blamed her parents because they died so early so that she could never experience love. However, a love coming from the parents is different from the love coming from a man. So SJW with his mother did try to let her experience love but she never saw it as such. She is definitely living in an illusion. She has reduced the meaning of love: love can only be between a man and woman therefore SJW became her obsession. She was loved by SJW but she never viewed it as such because she had a different definition of love. Now, she is trying to woo KIW believing that she is the only one who can fix KIW. She knows what kind of person he is. But does she love KIW? To me, she doesn’t love KIW too. She is just trying to make herself feel better and superior. With her words “YMR who abandoned you” or in an earlier conversation, JHR always implied that YMR had never loved KIW hence he became a monster. By receiving love from her, he will be able to change. episode 11 In this scene, JHR implies that YMR never loved her husband sincerely. She thinks that since she knows his true nature (monster, snake-like eyes of yours), she can control and even manipulate him. She thought so because KIW confided a lot to her: he visited her after hurting his fist or when he was too drunk. All this time, JHR thought that she had the upper-hand. Since KIW is a man with strong emotions, she believed that the chaebol would fall for her as she was direct and frank. But her words unveiled her weaknesses: not only her arrogance but also her savior complex. Notice that she did it with SJW once. She also thought that once WHK was dead, she would be able to replace her and become SJW’s wife. Here, she is doing the same with KIW. She is not loving him, she is acting like a psychiatrist. All her attempts unveil that she doesn’t love herself at all in my opinion. She thinks that once a man loves her as a woman, she will feel loved. However, she is deceiving herself. JHR doesn’t know what love is therefore she doesn’t know what true love is. She is not honestly feeling sympathy for KIW’s pain because in reality, she is more talking to herself. She wished, someone would say these words to her. This explains why KIW deceives JHR in the end. He never bought her “sympathy” and her speech for love. Her arrogance made her forget the true personality of KIW: a royal cobra. As for KIW, it is clear that he has never loved his wife. Like he confessed to JHR in the episode 13, when he saw YMR’s face for the first time, she looked so much like his mother that it took his breath away. KIW is not just suffering from abandonment issues, he doesn’t know what love is. For him, love is possession which he learnt from his father. He treats YMR like an object which he can mistreat, when he feels like it. KIW doesn’t know what true love is as he can not embrace his mother’s sorrow. He resents her for running away all this time and for choosing death over him. For him, love and betrayal are connected to each other that’s why he has always expected that YMR would leave his side. Yet, he has not realized that he was the reason for all this. Finally, HSH claimed that he loved WHK, however he decided to leave her behind, when she was hurt because he would lose everything: his reputation, his friend aso. Just like IYH said, true love is when someone is loving another in pain and when the partner is having a hard time… HSH was just a selfish person in the end. @zenya22 @MidnightRain @ktcjdrama@rocher22 @avondale16 @tiMadam @lu09
  25. Actually, the last two episodes clearly showed a contrast between SJW and KIW, because the latter chose not to look with his heart. SJW realized his own illusion. He fell in love with WHK because of her face and chose to overlook her personality... that's why he said to YMR, he wasn't able to see with his heart. Sure, he also meant that now he could clearly distinguish YMR from his former wife WHK. He was able to see her for whom she is and her face wouldn't remind him of WHK. However, his words implied too that he had been ignoring WHK's personality in the past as he never tried to confront her. KIW's obsession is definitely worse because he is not just blind but also deaf. After watching the preview, KIW's reaction doesn't surprise me: he wants YMR's face back. So YMR was right: her face was the reason for his obsession, just like he confessed to JHR that YMR reminded him so much of his mother hence he couldn't breath, when he saw YMR for the first time.
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