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Thank you for @luvcrabbieshinhwa and @Sky8lue for translating the BTS scenes!

 

I am also in the STS mode when KJW was fixing his hair and PMY came to the rescue. That small gesture!  I also noticed that KJW took PMY's pictures leaning on the car (like A LOT) using his own phone (sponsored phone is Samsung and the one he used is iPhone) and wonder what he did with it. Their off-screen chemistry is blowing my mind .

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1 hour ago, thechaosinourstar said:

But somehow he ask DM again – "Do you have anything that you can call me?"

 

 

Do he btw wants her to called him OPPA cause literally he wants to he HER only OPPA?

 

Hahaha, I think he knows it is a little bit awkward for DM to call "Ryan" (the effort to pronounce it tho ) since DM is already very much comfortable calling RG "Director". Thus why RG suggesting DM to use nickname.

 

I like Saja Sekki tho.

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Hi all! Was a silent lurker coming out from the closet just like how surprisingly RG calling DM "Sinagil"! OMG. Nice to meet you all, love to read every details you guys posted in this forum and I really enjoyed every of it!

 

Today's episode is crazy... what can I say? RG is super rational man, he never made any harsh decision emotionally. But I am afraid he actually has so much scar on his heart, as shown on the preview for the ep. 11. He cries and it makes me hurt so bad  guess from the text preview, is it possible if he got to remember his mother in the next ep tho?

 

I think for further it should be DM's turn now to understand more about RG because I see that RG is very much vulnerable just like in today's ep when he saw EG went to DM's house, then he made a call but DM turned off her phone, and lastly made sure to go to DM's house at a proper time: 7 o'clock, he just shown us that he doesn't want to be ended up alone and he knows how terrible it is for being left alone.

 

Since DM's identity is revealed, now it's supposed to be DM's time to show that she loves RG just as much as RG loves her (lets see how she works it out with her knowledge that RG is actually lying about Lee Sol's painting). Steal the spotlight, gurl!

 

It's 12 o clock here in Indonesia lmao have to go to work tomorrow but this drama makes me crazy... let's catch up later in the morning guys! 7 o'clock!  hope to see another interesting posts from you guys!

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Let's make it simple. From the preview, I think it is not precisely edited according to event order.

Since So has told Yeonhwa to betray her family to be with him, his next goal is clear: to revenge Wook for the death of Mu and Eun. It is because for all this time, Wook has always been the master of the puppet. So needs the right time to punish Wook. He needs the right time to unveil Wook's wrongdoings so that he won't be safe anymore.

Then... Wook confessed about his past relationship with Haesoo the moment So wants to punish him (I won't speculate anything about his confession whether it is to help Haesoo to go out from the palace or the other way and will let the next episode to tell everything). Of course So would feel trapped (I said trapped, not betrayed). For God's sake, it is not about Haesoo's past relationship, it is about Wook! So will remember all the time when Haesoo was trying so bad to protect Wook, but here So is, ready to kill Wook anytime. The fact that Haesoo did want to marry Wook hits So hard. Wook was once Haesoo's lover and source of comfort, how does So have to do with this? Even though it is all in the past, killing Wook would make So a complete monster in Haesoo's eyes.

That is why So is trembling in anger and tears, telling Haesoo he doesn't want to see her anymore. It is because he loves her so much but she is also the one who makes him so vulnerable in front of his biggest enemy... what decision should he make? Every choices has a great cost: losing Haesoo or losing the throne.

Meanwhile from Haesoo's perspective... I won't lie that I was so upset about her can't stay a second about her feeling towards So. But thinking again... I don't think she chooses that path because of her changing heart like the wind, she herself does suffers a lot, effecting her mind and her body. She loves So so much that it fears her if So will be the one that she knows through history. As now she tries more not too fixated to the future but living in the present as Taejo said, leaving is probably the best decision. She knows that she is the only weakness that So has. Having her around only makes So to be more distancing himself from Haesoo since there are too many things happen in the palace and So can't share it with Haesoo since she is too kind. The moment I really want Haesoo to wake up from her-so-kind-gesture-for-everyone, yesterday's episode tells me that this girl is just like that. It is her trait. She can't be changed even though we want her to change... Like Lady Oh said, Haesoo is very kind to people and easily believes other, since Haesoo herself always believe that when she doesn't change, other people do not change as well. 

About her sickness, she doesn't tell anything to So just like So doesn't tell her anything about him being the king. Both want the best for other, but in the end, those only used to hurt each other...

Let me share a quotation that is similarly describing SoSoo's situation right now:

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“I think you can love a person too much.
You put someone up on a pedestal, and all of a sudden, from that perspective, you notice what's wrong - a hair out of place, a run in a stocking, a broken bone. You spend all your time and energy making it right, and all the while, you are falling apart yourself. You don't even realize what you look like, how far you've deteriorated, because you only have eyes for someone else.”  -Jodi Picoult

Guess that no one will get their happy ending in Goryeo eh?

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47 minutes ago, LyraYoo said:

 

And me and my masochist self would say

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She killed herself ? 

 

Meanwhile here I am thinking that Woo Hee is being punished down there the way King Jeongjong killed Eun's family. The king can see those who are executed from up above. (Like when King Taejo killed Lady Oh too)

 

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17 hours ago, IAmSoulReader said:

"Well, the problem lies there. I believe her vision is not a premonition, but an exact future. Since all her vision did come true, she should have known that everything she does won't affect anything because it would result the same like Taejo's and Hyejong's death. For me, she does not trust Wang So at all. Why? The moment So told her that he is looking for Eun and SD in order to help them to escape (notice here, So was trying to tell her the truth like his promise to her), Haesoo again still relying to the premonition, and she did not tell him about her hiding Eun and SD in Damiwon. So frustrating, it was, but again, she should have known that Wang So will still ended up "looks like killing Eun" and involved no matter how she tried to prevent it.

IMO the point is not about Haesoo should believed So in order to help both Eun and SD to not get killed, but how much Haesoo put her belief in So despite of her bad vision about him. That's the trust for me. The future cannot be changed, thus Haesoo should trust her man behind the premonition. She should understand more on WHY So would kill Eun (we will get this next week, lmfao it was clear So did not do the kill for fun but to end Eun's misery faster by his sword) instead of keep skeptical on how ruthless So is in the premonition to kill Eun and laugh like that. Much simpler: She did not trust the man in front of her, but she trusted the man in her choppy vision.

So yeah, Haesoo did not trust Wang So at all and she does not deserve So's love.

I'm sorry that I sound so harsh about Haesoo, but even SD told Haesoo that she should trust her lover despite everything."

@hallyus I see where you're coming from but I don't quite agree. What I am wondering about is, even if I know I have almost no chance of keeping a tragedy from happening, will I truly be able not to even try to change anything? Because that's exactly where Hae Soo's dilemma lies.

Yes, she could have told WS about hiding Eun and about her visions as well (it just would have taken some time since it's quite a story to tell in their current situation). I do not see how it would have positively changed things though...? Following your argumentation (which does make sense indeed!) WS will still end up the same, even if she shares everything with him. Won't that make him feel even worse? Isn't it enough that Hae Soo already suffers so much from knowing what will happen? I really do not think she believes WS enjoys killing Eun. Her view on him changed long ago. It's more that she is afraid under which circumstances the tragedy will happen and how it'll make WS feel, not to even mention Eun...

I believe Hae Soo's biggest problem is that she wants to save them all and that she thinks she's the only one who can do it. There have been various moments in this drama which imply that she sees it as her fate to protect the princes no matter what. She can't cope with the cruel reality she's caught in. She cannot let it be because she grew fond of them. She refuses to surrender. It's natural  though. Imagine a family member being sick with a deadly disease. You know the ending already yet you'd do everything possible to change destiny. Her case is similar in a way.

In the end Hae Soo (again) tried to achieve the impossible by separating Eun and herself from WS. To her it was the only thing she could think of to make sure WS and Eun wouldn't have this dreadful encounter. If Eun and her weren't caught they couldn't be used by WY to make WS feel miserable once again. Of course she was bound to fail, too. But even if she only had a 1 % chance of saving all of them from what is bound to happen, in her mind it must have been worth it. Eun was the first friend she ever made. WS is the man she loves. How can she possibly just sit back and watch? It's like you said, she never stood a chance either way. However, can we really be upset with her for at least trying?
 

Hi! It's refreshing to see another point of view that totally different with mine. Thanks for replying btw, discussion is always something, heh. 

I agreed that Haesoo must be in a big dilemma, she had seen everything before people around her do, she kept that burden within herself. However, King Taejo and Jimong advised her to let the history unfolds without her to interfere. What happened is bound to happen. I guess their advice was crystal clear... that it is the future that she sees.

Like you said, if she tries to interfere with the history so that nobody will hurt including So (oh so much goddess complexity here) even though it was only 1% chance, she should have shrugged off the premonition and believe that it won't happen if she meddles in, right? She can't just stay still, after all. What I was trying to say is more to her reaction at the time she was shown the vision again after So told her the truth (that he is not trying to harm Eun and SD, he is going to save both). She believed the choppy vision without looking for the context why it is happening, or how it happens. I am upset because Haesoo believes So's utterance is definitely going to be the exact opposite with what she sees, without even trying to understand the reason. She believed right away that So will kill Eun once they meet even though So just told her that he won't kill Eun, which triggers her to do whatever she can to separate Eun and So (to save both because she loves both so much like you said: Eun as her first friend, So as her.. everything). There is no trust shown at all even though her man just said blatantly to her about his intention. 

This is why I said Haesoo did not trust Wang So at that moment that she needed SD to snap it out. I do know Haesoo loves So, tho. But the trust problem was an ugly truth. If only So knows that Haesoo hides both Eun and SD, how he will react? Grateful? I don't think so. Unfaithful? Makes sense. If only the premonition shows the part Yo shoots Eun first, how she will react? Keep hiding Eun and SD from So? Nope. Seeking So for help? Most probably.

However, I appreciate everything Haesoo did to help Eun and SD. I don't blame everything about Eun and SD got killed because of Haesoo not telling So, because well, Eun himself took a part to worsen the condition. How come he left traces of his existence so clearly out of his hideout? If only he cleaned up everything... all of this won't happen. But we need that ignorance to progress the plot.

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1 hour ago, clarissasan said:

I agree if Hae Soo told Wang So earlier about Eun and SD were in Damiwon, maybe he can helped them escape earlier.

But.......

Hae Soo has seen 2 of her visions did come true, King TaeJo died and King Mu died tragically. I think she believe that this vision of WS killing Eun will also come true. 

In order to do that, Hae Soo couldn't tell WS about Eun at all. She didn't want WS to join their escape plan so that WS wouldn't involved at all. 

Maybe it's not because she didn't trust him, but to protect and help Wang So, so he won't end up killing his own bro.

I believe deeply HS trust WS. I think it's normal for her not to believe anyone including WS in this escape plan. 

 

Well, the problem lies there. I believe her vision is not a premonition, but an exact future. Since all her vision did come true, she should have known that everything she does won't affect anything because it would result the same like Taejo's and Hyejong's death. For me, she does not trust Wang So at all. Why? The moment So told her that he is looking for Eun and SD in order to help them to escape (notice here, So was trying to tell her the truth like his promise to her), Haesoo again still relying to the premonition, and she did not tell him about her hiding Eun and SD in Damiwon. So frustrating, it was, but again, she should have known that Wang So will still ended up "looks like killing Eun" and involved no matter how she tried to prevent it.

IMO the point is not about Haesoo should believed So in order to help both Eun and SD to not get killed, but how much Haesoo put her belief in So despite of her bad vision about him. That's the trust for me. The future cannot be changed, thus Haesoo should trust her man behind the premonition. She should understand more on WHY So would kill Eun (we will get this next week, lmfao it was clear So did not do the kill for fun but to end Eun's misery faster by his sword) instead of keep skeptical on how ruthless So is in the premonition to kill Eun and laugh like that. Much simpler: She did not trust the man in front of her, but she trusted the man in her choppy vision.

So yeah, Haesoo did not trust Wang So at all and she does not deserve So's love.

I'm sorry that I sound so harsh about Haesoo, but even SD told Haesoo that she should trust her lover despite everything.

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Above here is my rant on how upset I am about Haesoo that I decided to let her go and ship Wang So with his boat!!! @solelylurking @dhia205 @leekyuphii @Yippeuni 

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19 minutes ago, mochimaniac said:

Question: Was this scene shown..or yet to come?? 

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cr vid:qidor

 

..and can someone translate?? im dying to know what is being said here  thanks in advance.

It is shown in the international version! Wook told Queen Hwangbo and Yeonhwa that he will revolt together with Yo. Meanwhile Queen Hwangbo upset, she said that she never raised him to be a traitor. Yeonhwa also said that if Wook helped Yo, Yo for sure will come to them and finish them off at first (because Wook once already turned against him). Hwangbo was very disappointed with him, while Wook defended himself that he did everything for the sake of the family and because Queen Hwangbo put everything on his shoulder (about the family thingy) (eh he also mentioned about So I think). Last, Queen Hwangbo asked him whether this is all because of Haesoo, and Wook deliberately said yes, it is because Haesoo that he did everything.

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I think I need the SBS version so bad....... the international version makes me mad......  

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1 hour ago, millie10468 said:

The greatest shock this episode, to me, was not Soo rejecting So for the nth time (*rolling eyes from here to the ground* Yeah, that was suuuuch a shocker) or Yeonhwa proposing to So (girl has absolutely no chill, absolutely none) or Soo appearing to still have feelings for WeakWook (does she need another year?).

It was the fact that King Taejo was grooming both Mu and So to be kings. Talk about tough love. And he appears to know Mu has to die for So to be king. This is one of the times I'd think it sucks to know the future. But then, why was he so mean to So when he came back home after two years away in the first episodes? Like that time So took CP's place in that ceremony and got hurt. The king was all about Mu back then so was he pretending to not like So or something? And if so, why? By that time, So was so desperate for affection that if the point of his being sent to the Kangs as a hostage was to get him away from Queen Yoo's poisonous influence, wouldn't he have been more vulnerable to her influence? Just look at how he killed the monks for her...

I wonder when Queen Yoo will find out that her actions that day (scarring So) actually led to the sequence of events that allowed him to be the longest serving King out of all her children. I hope she finds out before she dies. Please, dramaGods, let her die lonely

Hi, I think the same too! Lmfao it makes sense now why King secretly sent General Park to teach him martial arts.

And for your question, I think you've answered it by yourself. It is because the affection. I think the King doesn't want So to be dependent on someone. Taejo knows well that the world he is living in now is scary, thus why he needs someone that can survive by himself. I think this is the contrast between Yo and So. Yo, living his life inside the palace, is learning on how to negotiate with other people so that he can use them to gain power. It is ok from the surface, but underneath, the people he uses must be asking for payback for they loyalty (making them as officials, minister, etc). So actually, Yo can't survive by himself. However, it won't happen to So. He creates his identity as someone that should not be taken lightly, for living out from the palace. Even people in Shinju fear him the most that General Park said that So can just control them if he got back. So has nothing to lose, has nothing to fear that he even dare to against the king's command only for Hae Soo. It means when he sets his mind, nothing will stop him. People cannot control him, but he can control the people using the fear of the people about him. This is what Taejo is looking for. He will be the king that cannot be controlled. If he gets the affection that he is looking for, the king afraid that he won't be that bold person.

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Currently re-watching the episode... okay so the international version cut the Wang Moo scene talking with Ji Mong. I can't understand what they're talking about tho. Hope someone catch this and share the translation in this thread. 

Also the talk between Wang So and Yeonhwa is longer in SBS version. Wang So told Yeonhwa about him was being told the sign that he will be the king when he was a child, and that day was the day when he got his scar on his face (guess this is why Queen Yoo harmed So, because they know that Wang So will be the king, thus she made him as the hostage so that Taejo will stop his marriage). That time Wang So stopped thinking to be a king. After that we got the famous line from the 6mins trailer "Fate? I don't believe such petty things as fate", and he continued that he has something that he wants more (than he wants the throne). Yeonhwa, as quick as she is, got his point and asked him whether it is Hae Soo that he wants. I think Yeonhwa told him to avoid Hae Soo because something, and Wang So shut her by telling her that without So he will be something (lmfao correct me please!). Last, he said even from this conversation, it made him even more certain that he will be NOTHING WITHOUT HAE SOO. 

I'm not giving up the drama, my hope is only how both So and Soo love story will be beautifully made (since there are so much beautiful scenes: the mask and the boat) and how the writer will create Hae Soo's love towards So later is not because of she's afraid of him, but because she really does love him. It's okay if the ship sails late than expected, but hope there will be no forcing feelings anymore on Hae Soo. I would like her to feel the comfort beneath So, the warmth given by So. 

Oh, I also want to add something: I think Yo is trying to betray his own mother, Queen Yoo. Queen Yoo never planned to kill the king since according to Yo, "she loves him as much she hates him". That's why Queen Yoo never planned to assassin her own husband, but she wants to kill those who will replace him. Wang Yo seeing the event as a chance for him to ascend to the throne (since Wang Mu is not in the palace, if the King dies there should be someone that should take his place right away), that's why he just want to finish his father (but later his plan is failed since Wang So will defend the palace waiting Mu to come, before unveils that Taejo is died).

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MY QUESTION:

WHERE IS THE CROWN PRINCE WANG MOO?

Damn. This is crazy. I don't get the idea Hae Soo can do many things to reject Wang So, the person she fears the most <she said>, while she can't do anything with her feelings towards Wook, when she CLEARLY SAW HIM NOT EVEN BUDGE TO LOOK AT HER (AND IT IS THE SECOND TIME ALREADY)

She keeps saying that she wants to get out from the palace. But when Wang So offers her THE BEST CHOICE HE CAN GIVE (if she hates him that much she can divorce him after they got out from the palace) she rejects him eventually. WHY WHY WHY.

I hate her so much at this time because she doesn't seem to use her logic when she encounters Wang So. She does like EVERYTHING to make him hates her. How can she said that Wang So wants to kill her when he only wants to make her safe? Don't you see that face Hae Soo? You hurt him badly yet he keeps chasing you like a puppy.

Bless you, Hae Soo. Because Wang So doesn't leave you right away only because you keep rejecting him. Lmfao bcs if it is the other guy he will leave you RIGHT AWAY. JIGEUM DANJANG. OSO!

Drama gods, please fix my hate in the next episode. All that I care now is only Wang So, and I know Wang So loves Hae Soo so bad I don't want him to be sad. His happiness is only Hae Soo and Hae Soo, that's why I need you drama gods to slap her so bad!!!

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Brace yourself guys, but, let me ask you guys first. Have we seen Wang So wearing the same clothes in different day?

Because I think one of the premonitions will happen soon enough since he wears the same clothes in the preview...

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Time to say good bye to Eun in the next eps? We know we will see glimpse of Eun starts to joke around with his wife...  Wang So's devastated laugh is so scary... he has no choice right?

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1 hour ago, fathiayunia said:

My feelings exactly!! I should give you guys an award just for this words alone. I'm sooooo frustrated with Hae Soo  Girl you should wake up already. Haha I think she already knows and sense some of Wang Wook's invisible cloak but she tends to ignore it, or denied it, and all she sees is Wang Wook's gentlemanly behavior before. I'm not entirely sure about next episode though, I'm gonna be satisfied if Wang Wook tried to sweet talk her and she said

"I'm tired of all the empty promises you gave me. I'm here to return the bracelet."

TO HIS FACE  YEEEEAAAAAHHH!! If she said that I'm gonna cheered and probably dance crazily.  Bahahahaha. Think it's possible?

 

2 hours ago, MoOnLoVeRz said:

 

@fathiayunia I can't say anything ㅠㅠ I know she can't change her feelings like wind, but I feel like she doesn't even give So a chance at all ㅠㅠ if she does really ask Wook whether he misses her or not, she really has no idea that the guy had betrayed her. My last hope is the preview of the 6mins trailer where So is trying to defend the palace for CP against Wook who joins ally with Yo (guess that time Taejo fell ill). In that preview, it seems Soo wearing her maid clothes is watching the fight. Then she will realize what Wook does all this time behind her.

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13 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

In the next episode:

Wook to Soo: "I missed you each and every second" 

Wook to So: "A prince and a maid getting married?" 

You have already made your choices!   BOY PLEASE STOP! 

 

 

Actually that line in the next episode fears me the most. I'm afraid that Wook will come to her again and trying to sway her with his words, so that Soo won't turn away from him. Wook doesn't want to lose her, but he only has eyes for the throne. He said to Jung that he can't go against King's will in the preview. It means he wants other people to know that he has no relationship anymore with Soo. However, what he said to So's idea to marry Soo is a shield of Wook to keep Soo only for himself. I don't think Soo already knew the reason of him turned his back, but I hope she does know later that he is a man full of himself. (Ugh don't cry for that man, gurl! you are someone who dared to disobey the king, why should you being so weak in front of him?)

Wang So is completely opposite of him. He tries to embrace Soo first while he thinks another way out. He puts Soo's safety above everything, even above himself. That way, somehow he wants to teach Soo that everything in the world is not as white as she thinks. To gain something, there must be a pain, there must be sacrifice. Girl, you said that you won't be selfish anymore since you know that a person had willingly die in your place, right? Please don't forget Wang So who drinks that poison too. He did that for you even though he said no.

Sigh, I've never been this desperate to make the first female lead aware to the first male lead action. When I watch the other dramas, I'm always sure how the girl would ended up with. But this time, it makes me nervous because the girl hasn't seen the invisible cloak the second male lead wear, but she keeps getting bad premonitions about the first male lead that makes her justify all of his kindness to it.

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12 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said:

I read somewhere on the thread that Lady Hae was actually not from the Hae clan but she was Taejo's 4th wife's daughter. 

I also read somewhere on the thread that WS marries his niece. 

Please do correct me if I'm wrong about any of these but since Lady Hae treated HS as her daughter could this be a possible lead??.. 

I think I'm too desperate to see them married because this seems too farfetched.

I don't think so... If I remember correctly, both WW and Lady Hae was got married to gain political support from Hae clan and to bring back Queen Hwangbo back to the palace after the accusation for poisoning Lady Oh. That's why when Lady Hae died, the Hae clan was looking for Hae Soo and tried to make her marry King Taejo.

All the shipper of #SoSoo must be desperate, and I am included too. But let's enjoy the show. #KeepInFaithSoSoo

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57 minutes ago, sharreb said:

Scene from Ep11 (only 2min 55sec but i love it so much and kp replaying over n over again)

WS visits HS in the prison

HS: I knew it. I knew you wouldn't die

WS: Why would I? That was nothing

HS: Did you drink the tea knowing it was poisoned so that noone would suspect me?

WS: That's nonsense. I'm not a fool who'd take poison to save a girl

HS: Why did you do it? Do you think acting so rashly will make me change my mind

- WS looks away like HS has seen through him

HS in voiceover: Why would you risk your life for me? He's making it harder for me to ignore him.

WS: Don't run away. You're so good at causing trouble. We both made it out alive. We'll see each other again.

HS: You are beyond helpless. 

WS with a split second wry smile: You are worse.

HS: Listen to the doctor well. Get treated. You shouldn't be walking about. You don't have to come see me. Okay?

WS looks visibly touched by her words and her concern: You and your nagging.

WS like about to tear up, turns away. A look of determination on his face as he walks away

the last few lines from them really made me smile. A touch of light heartedness in an otherwise sombre setting. I love it that she could see through his flippant reply and denying he was saving her. I love it that it was hard for WS to mask his concern and how much HS's words affect him. I love HS understated way in acknowledging that she couldn't ignore WS even if she tries. She couldn't help but be touched by his actions and couldn't help herself worrying over him even when she was not in a state to worry about others.

Ooh my this scene is the best for me so far, their interaction is beyond amazing. I prefer this translation so bad since the one that I watch doesn't seem to be translated contextually. I love Wang So's gestures to lower himself so that he can see Hae Soo right in her eyes. It's like he also did not want her to bother to stand, as Wang So never sees her to be lower than him. He treats her equally now (So did change slowly right? At his first encounter with Hae Soo, he asked her how dare she was to ask a prince to apologize, but now, look who is kneeling, just look look and look ). 

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36 minutes ago, fathiayunia said:

Eclipses, monday can't come faster. So I decided to do something. Here's a peek to some of my

CRAZY IMAGINATION

FICTION STORY

Enjoooy

MY CRAZY IMAGINATION PART 1

MY CRAZY IMAGINATION PART 2

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Here's the prelude to my story, onnie deul. pfft.. Hope you guys enjoyed it (though you guys already know some of the continuation)  Don't spoil the fun! Hahahaha

 

LMAO things like this is all that I need after the craziness we've been from watching the prev eps and waiting for the next eps. You need to continue your wild imagination further!!! I can take more than this Fathia...  

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20 minutes ago, kyar7jizhenll said:

Although I should be studying for very important license exam, I could not control myself to say something about Queen Yoo. I know she is cruel and selfish and all the audiences hate her.  However, if I say that Queen Yoo is pitiful in a way and that all her brutality and scheming come from unrequited love from Taejo, will you all agree???

The reason I said this is because she still loves Taejo no matter how disappointed she is in him.  She even tried to stop his marriage by using her own son WS's life as well as her recently deceased eldest son (2nd prince).  She was trying to say against King marrying Hae Soo (not sure in which version).  She attacked Lady Oh who seemed to get King's heart as she is very resentful that she didn't get his.  People who want to win against someone in unethical ways are usually jealous and low self-esteemed (poison Lady Oh to have abortion, arrange someone from Damiwon to poison CP, argue Lady Oh that she won).  However, she never planned to hurt Taejo.  She planned to assassinate CP many times but did NOT plan to kill the king.  It was Yoo and his father-in-law (Park Young Ku)  are the ones working with Woo Hee.  Yoo knows about Woo Hee planned assassination attempt as a Gaesha (You can see he smiled when the king was stabbed by Woo Hee, he smiled).  I really don't think that Queen Yoo knew about this though she also has connection with Park Young Ku. 

Have fun discussing eclipsers!!!

I agree with your point saying that Queen Yoo may be doing all of this because of disappointment that has been fostered becomes anguish and led her being so ambitious to make one of her children (which is Yo, someone that she can control) to ascend to the throne. She cannot win Taejo's heart (she knows it very well, Taejo's heart is forever being Lady Oh's possession), thus she needs to win the throne by herself because she had already sacrificed enough of her being Taejo's wife: she wasn't his first Queen and she needs to share her man to others. Deep down we know it is every single woman wish to keep her man by herself, even Hae Soo thinks the same. Thus, she wants the throne so bad so that the others would only look at her, not like her man who cannot look only at her. She poisoned Lady Oh because she knows that if Lady Oh's child born, Taejo would favor that child so much that it may interfere her. 

However from what I remembered, Queen Yoo tried to stop the marriage not because of jealousy, rather to be in disbelief on how Taejo have no heart for their dead child at all, and also for her, by directly marrying someone else when she was at her lowest-state (Queen Yoo, Wang Mu, and So were still wearing the white robe, so it seems the marriage was held on the same day when they cremated So's brother). Taejo always using the same excuses that he did this/that to protect the nation. This is why I quite despise some of Taejo's decisions. When things urgent came to him, he seemed to be lack of knowledge to solve the problem as the King.

Back to Queen Yoo, maybe at that time, what Queen Yoo needs the most was a comfort from Taejo. They just lost their child, at least Taejo should respect her. But she didn't get any of it, which I think that was the time Queen Yoo lost herself in dark side. She is no more a good mother (seeing So still respected her so much even after his family abandon him as a hostage to the Shinju, means that before Queen Yoo created scar on So's face, both had a good relationship as a mom and son. So never blames her for the scar. He blames the scar that made Queen Yoo acted that way to him.) but a scary woman who wants the power. I swear to God that every time she sees Wang So, she must be remembered what made her being so far like this, only her heart is already been washed out to be filled in with greed that makes her can't see clearly. 

Did I sound blaming Taejo for this? Well yeah, that's the fact. You reap what you sow, Beha.

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14 hours ago, potatohead said:

We can assume from Hae Soo's vision that he died from drowning in the baths. Again, the baths was definitely reminiscent of Lady Oh, the woman he loved deeply. There, he might have been overcome by thoughts about her and triggered bodily reactions. The King's death probably came as a result of him suffering another heart attack while in the water and drowned then. It would be very logical and bittersweet: the king dying shortly after his lover did.

Hi! Sorry for cutting your post, but I want to correct your post since I've mentioned about this before in here and so did @briseis in here. The vision that Hae Soo got was showing the deaths of 3 different kings consecutively and the blurry Gwangjong as the 4th king. It was not Taejo who died from drowning, but it was Wang Mu or later will be known as King Hyejong. Because from this vision, Hae Soo also remembered the history that Gwangjong is going to be the 4th king (our heroin is so bad at history, that's what people say and I acknowledge it  she knew that Gwangjong was a ruthless king in history, but she didn't know that Gwangjong was the 4th before the vision).

However I agreed to your point that Lady Oh death created an impact to his body. For me, Lady Oh is King Taejo's heart. He granted Lady Oh's request, because he cherishes her so much. I was so sad the moment Taejo said to her: "Are you finally throwing me away?". It's like actually deep inside, both of them are relying to each other so bad without needed to show it. Finally at the last, they turn their back, they betrayed each other, in order to save their own person, putting their feelings to each other as the cost. So, when Lady Oh died, half of Taejo's heart is also died for losing the grip that he depended on. 

If the drama following the exact story, then Taejo will die because of illness, not because of him stabbed to death. It's him dying slowly after Lady Oh's death. How lonely he must have been to live the day without Lady Oh.

Except, the drama change the story (like from the preview - but the preview can be misleading too), or there is the possibility of Hae Soo to change the future, then I can't predict what will cause Taejo's death.

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What I observed from this thread is that once spoiler picture comes out, it runs like light. So fast that whenever I keep refreshing the page, there will be another additional page comes. So proud! 

I just want to mention about the contrast they show through this scene... (By the way, am I the only one who feels fluttered when looking at this picture?)

How dark Wang So is represented, and how white Hae Soo is. It is like YinYang (陰陽) the dark and the bright. Both are completely in different sides, contrary, opposite, but they are obliged to be with each other in order to create balance and dynamic to the world. The darkness in Wang So's clothes shows all the possible masculinity traits that exist in him. It also shows his feeling: the anguish, mixed with the anger. Meanwhile Hae Soo's clothes shows her innocence, her purity, and her being defenseless. Both of them are too beautiful to see.

I was hoping that Hae Soo will aware about the situation she is in through Wang So's poisoning incident, but I don't expect her to be beaten like that  it's too much for me to handle. Not to mention she will lost her protector so soon?? Lady Oh... is that why you look so sad here?

I'm hoping that Gwangjong won't repeat the same mistake that his father do to Lady Oh. From Lady Oh's story, I get the vibes that both her and Taejo was a lover, only Taejo doesn't want to give up the position and end her to be in Damiwon. What's the point of seeing the same story? 

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39 minutes ago, kaoriharang said:

 

WOW! Thank you for that! If it is seen that way maybe that is how history is suppose to be but somehow something changes?

then again if they stick to the c-version, if i am correct ruo xi knew clearly their fate so she stay away and try not to get to attached to them, but she became the catalyst for history to happen.

I am not sure what road HS is going to take, it seems so far that she is really involve in history, seeing as how she told WW to be careful of WS and wondering to herself if she can actually change their fates.

So I am a little confuse how this will turn out, will it be as history was, or would it change because she became involve

 

That's the problem. We still don't know whether Haesoo is capable to change their fate, for at least, to be not as miserable as she had seen in the premonition or how the history told her. The story hasn't tell us yet about the probability of the future to change. What we've seen so far is we only got to know that it is for sure Gwangjong is Wang So, and when Wang So killed Eun. We don't know if there is an alternate version of that future.

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@meahri_1 oh thank you for mentioning me about that! @bebebisous33 I'm really sorry that I must have been missed your post about it!  but I'm glad that it means that some of us think the same about the representation of Moon and Sun to both our leads, however I cannot help but feel sad to the truth that maybe... just maybe... that they are deeply in love with each other but too different to exist side by side. It's a description that well matches with BBJX C-ver ending IMO.

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So today I spent my time re-watching all the episodes, and now I understand why Hae Soo is seemingly to be very sure about the history, especially about Gwangjong who will be the 4th King of Georyeo (however at that time she has no idea that Gwangjong is actually Wang So).

Still remember the first premonition she got after she injured herself to cut the ties with Taejo? So actually, in this premonition, she learned that there are 3 Kings whom will be dead, consecutively.

She got a brief view of Taejo's death. Taejo is the 1st King of Georyeo.

Next, she got the view of the death of the 2nd King of Georyeo Hyejong, or we know him now as Crown Prince, Wang Mu. Is he drowned? Oh notice the clothes he wear, it's the King's attire. So for sure he will ascend to the throne after Taejo's death.

Spoiler

Later is the death of the 3rd King Jeongjong or we know him better as Wang Yo. I got the other scene from the 6mins trailer. But it seems that he died in shock? (is that why he only ruled Georyeo in such a short period? Someone killed him?) Look at his face.

This is the premonition that Hae Soo got about the 3rd King. Aren't both picture similar?

Spoiler

At the end of the premonition, we see her standing watching the throne before the picture of blurry Gwangjong comes out. 

Although she isn't sure about Hyejong and Jeongjong, but her premonition is clear. It tells her that there will be another 2 kings before Gwangjong ascend to the throne. She said "Something about Gwangjong is bothering me. I'm forgetting something. Goryeo's fourth king, Gwangjong. Yes, Gwangjong is the fourth king.", emphasized to the latter sentence because from the premonition, she just remembered a part of history. However, if her premonition is based on history, why she got premonition about herself? I think it fits more to say that she sees the future. And guess, this ability doesn't help her to see whether she can change the future or not based on her actions, since she keeps getting another scene that even worse and terrifies her.

 

@dhia205 no wonder you're a Legend  tapi aku salut banget lho yang bisa multitasking live-recapping/live-blogging sambil nonton. Aku pernah nyoba tapi gagal! Haha

@junee22 enaknya emang download, aku biasanya habis nonton one channel, besoknya download sbs version. Gara2 directornya nih. Bikin dua versi bikin puyeng 

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Halo haloo @dhia205 @junee22 biasanya pada streaming apa nonton di one channel? Ga sabar banget nunggu hari Senin haha!

Guys, I want to hear your opinion about this.

As the title of the drama is "Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo", I wonder if the Moon is the representation of Hae Soo? Because we know that all the princes are getting attached to her, thus all the princes is called Moon Lovers. Also when Ha Jin drowned in the lake, at the same time, there was a solar eclipse (the moment when the Moon passes between the Sun and Earth, and the Moon fully or partially blocks the Sun). Once the Moon and the Sun met, we transferred to the same event in Goryeo, and the scene started to show Wang So riding the horse in front of the eclipse, whom I believe is represented by the Sun (the ruler of the country usually symbolized as the Sun, but in this case, we know that Wang So will be the Sun). It seems that their fate is no matter what will cross to each other like how the Moon and the Sun can meet when the Solar Eclipse happen.

This is what I found when I looked up to some quotation about Sun and Moon on Google:

"The Sun loved the Moon so much that he died every night just to let her breathe." 

"Sometimes, I think of the Sun and the Moon as lovers who rarely meet, always chase, and always miss one another. But once in a while, they do catch up, and they kiss, and the world stares in awe of their eclipse."

"The Sun and the moon were opposite souls, yet both waited impatiently. For the rare days when, they might coexist peacefully."

"And maybe we are just like the Sun and the Moon, deeply in love with each other but too different to exist side by side."

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I just have a time for tuning in... lmao guys. You guys are so fast. Need to catch up first. Oh and I saw the BTS already. Poor my heart because I've been repeating the kiss scene like numerous times waiting Moonday to come.

12 minutes ago, junee22 said:

Indonesian not really into Kdramas..of course there are many who love watch Kdramas..but many more who prefers local dramas and or Indian/Turks dramas..maybe because of the close cultural connection

Anyway,I'm so glad to hear that..hope SHR will always continue shining.

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Ga baper kok say..cuman kebawa mimpi aja..hehehehe

 

 

13 minutes ago, Mona Ys said:

 

Indonesian tv cables never give rating reports, so we really don't know if it's doing well or not in One Asia channel, but at least all my friends are all hype with this show, we all try to go home early (despite of crazy traffic in Jakarta) so we will be able to catch MLSHR on tv hehehe.....

 

Wait... are you guys Indonesian? OMG it's nice to see another Indonesian in this forum haha! I thought it was only me...