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  1. I feel like s2 was def contingent on the performance of the supposed s1. And since it was not a runaway hit in Korea (though it had  solid ratings in comparison to other dramas airing in the same time slot), it might not have been so certain. 

     

    I feel like SSR will not return. If I was him, I honestly would not bother. They underutilized his skills and screen presence. And the story could honestly go on fine without his character especially with them acting largely beyond the law now. The NIS was pretty useless anyways. In terms of side characters, they would only really need Lily, EP, JL (maybe), and the acting president Hong to return for consistency. But really without Suzy and LSG, it would be entirely pointless. Likely the difficulty is trying to pin down schedules with them. Suzy has so many projects in talk. And especially with LSG, it would also mean he would have to wholly commit to doing high action sequences, which is always a risk. From previous promo interviews, it also sounded like they both were pretty ready to try different roles/projects. Filming and production for this drama was unusually long so it’s understandable. Though it did also sound like LSG might be open to a s2 at one point.

     

    I think there is a chance. But I would be very surprised if they did confirm. I also think it’s a little suspicious that both Suzy and LSG have yet to post anything on instagram after the final ep aired. Typically they would post some goodbye to the character/show and thanks to cast/crew. And while other cast/crew seem to be posting, they have been mum.  But maybe it means nothing. If they do post a goodbye to their character though, I will basically take it as a sign that they are done with their roles. 

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  2. So it pretty much happened the way most of us thought it would. 

     

    AND they actually did the worst thing ever and ended the series basically right after the opening sequence. They literally made the whole series a backstory, when the actual REAL interesting story is what happens after that point. Worst writers ever. Also unless the whole production, cast, and crew were guaranteed a second season, the writers are the absolute worst for writing the story this way. It provided no resolution at all. HR and DG never even met again face to face! If a second season doesn’t happen with the same leads, these writers and whoever decided this was a great idea should never be allowed to touch a drama again. 

     

    Also, if HR and DG ever do meet in some future storyline, HR better be pissed off at DG. He literally changed her whole life trajectory and is out trying to avenge his death, when he is alive. Like I want them to kiss and then she better let him have it, because they now have one super complicated, angsty relationship. Also if there is a s2, there better be more focus on them as a couple working stuff out because they are literally the series cliffhanger. 

     

    And if there is actually a s2, i agree with others now that it will likely take a long time to come out, especially if they have not actually shot it continuously. And with how long it took vagabond to first come out, I can only imagine. 

     

    Geez, this drama. 

     

     

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  3. 1 hour ago, ktcjdrama said:

    Good speculation. Let me piggyback on it that maybe after he went solo underground without telling a single soul, HR somehow got released from prison by Edward and then worked for him. DG was expecting to take out Edward with his aiming, but surprise surprise, it is HR who came out of the car. 

     

    Ah good theory! Also so lame if the show ends soon after this. 

     

    52 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

    No matter what happens in the finale, I don't think I will be satisfied with this storytelling. We spent 15 or maybe 16 episodes in 2012. If they shove in a huge 6-7 year time jump in ep 16 it's just....I don't know how to describe it. Gahhhh. It doesn't make sense if they keep the story in 2012 since Haeri will be jailed, also Dalgun needs some sniper lessons, he can't be a sniper without loads of training. So...maybe there will be a 2nd season?

     

    This drama was very hyped up. I didn't have high expectations for Vagabond, but I can't deny that I did expect more from the hype. I had expectations that it will give us plot twists and interesting characters...but imo..everyone is one dimensional, the story is predictable. 

     

    Completely agree. I mostly tried to hold off on judgement until the end. And now that there’s one ep left, (unless the last ep is AMAZING) I think I can comfortably say that the story has been incredibly predictable for a spy drama so far. And what’s worse is that it felt like the writer wasn’t even trying that hard. I understand they wanted to explain the whole backstory, but I seriously feel like they could have condensed this whole 2012 storyline and ended up with the same amount of character and story development in like half the time. And then they could have gone into 2019 at the halfway mark. It would have made for tighter story telling and writing, instead of semi-meandering at points. We also would maybe have a chance for a better resolution in a single season instead of wondering if s2 is actually happening or not. Some eps were not even a full hour. There were unnecessary recaps at the beginning of others. And one ep was entirely just literally them taking KWG from the freight container to the courthouse. The part that annoys me is that this is the point in the story where the characters actually can show development and growth! Part of the reason why the characters feel so one dimensional is because the writers basically kept them the same from beginning to end. There is barely any growth. HR does become a more patriotic agent through DG, but she still never fully gains a sense of true agency or storyline. DG is as hotheaded from beginning to end and is still running off blindly. Their relationship has hints and is adorable, but is also paced so awkwardly at times. With DG’s supposed death, HR now actually has a chance at a more personal and stronger storyline that could connect her better with the viewers through her avenging DG’s death. Does she try to take on his mantle of justice? Or find her own way of revenge? Her own journey and emotional payout would feel much more organic and earned. And DG likely goes to a much darker place as well. A colder and more calculated DG would be a welcome dichotomy. And when they meet up, then what?? I want more than a couple mins of reunion. There would be so much dang history and emotions to dig through!  I feel like there is so much more potential for the main characters at this point in the story! Instead we are doing a time jump and it’s the last episode. If this was a 24 ep drama or the eps were longer in runtime, I wouldn’t be complaining as much. But the obvious twist with EP came way too late. I blame the writers more than the cast and production. 

     

    Still, I honestly adore LSG and Suzy together. They have a sweet chemistry. I also just wish their synergy had been better utilized. 

     

    Not to be too much of a downer, because I do enjoy this drama still.  But the possibility and potential of what it could have been is sometimes annoying to think about. 

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  4. A season 2 has to happen right? I was seriously hoping they wouldn’t end the series with the opening sequence. But they are doing exactly that. But I am glad that the twist is not that GHR is actually bad like some were hoping though. That may be a fun twist, but it also would be more bad and inconsistent writing on part of the show.  (Also how dumb of it was DG to just go and face Eduard alone without a backup plan. Like he couldn’t even take a couple secs and  call/txt anybody to give a heads up? This is where i am, what i’m thinking, my suspicions. If something happens, you know who did it. Also maybe come with backup? But if he wasn’t this way, there would be no story i guess. Also, he wouldn’t have been so easy to manipulate by Eduard.) 

     

    So it seems that HR will go “black” to avenge DG. DG of course never dies, and he will come out alive but pretend he is dead so as to “protect” those he cares for and will assume a mission of lone ranger. He seems to have become a type of mercenary in the opening scenes, which means he must become one to infiltrate and bring it down somehow. Years pass and HR and DG’s paths cross unexpectedly, which is why DG is freaking out in the beginning and can’t pull the trigger. I feel like HR and DG need to meet again before the show ends. Will we get a reunion kiss?? It seems doubtful because they have not even admitted their feelings to each other. And like 7 yrs would have passed if they jumped to present time, making them very different people. Do I still want it? YES. Geez. The glacial pace of this couple is infuriating, even for a kdrama. Likely, it will end when they finally meet again with  vague open ending. And no major resolution on Samael. Unless they do some copout ending. 

     

    So a second season of some sort is likely in order? They also, I hope, would have LSG and Suzy come back (because they are the primary pull in the show, story aside). If they do not get the og cast back, I’m just going to toss this whole thing. (If you watched Suzy’s bday video that LSG&co. took of surprising her and then Suzy making a wish, they clearly wanted the show to perform super well. Granted, all cast and crew wish for success for their projects, but i wonder if a s2  is contingent on the performance on s1. I would argue that it should be doing more than well enough on netflix, and I think I read somewhere here that the show made more than enough internationally through netflix and ads to fully cover the cost of the show and then some. It seems solid (though not spectacular) in skorea. So not sure.) I also worry about a second season because they both seems so busy. Suzy already has talks about being in another drama for next yr. Which means that if a s2 does happen, it will either be without all/most of the og cast. Or it will not air until like the end of next yr at earliest.

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  5. The story is getting better!

     

    I have actually been liking the show as it goes on a lot more than the initial two eps, which were very flashy, but kind of shallow in terms of character substance for me. It's still in the first half of the series, but hopefully, the pace will keep up so the story will not drag too much. There is a lot of ground to cover plot-wise, so there should be minimal lag time really. The main protagonists have a lot of work to do! 

     

    In terms of previous comments saying things like the story was too obvious or HR as an agent was too unbelievable in her lack of skills as a field agent, I wanted to share my thoughts. While there are definite plot holes and inconsistencies, I am so far okay with how things are going. Basically most of the things shown in the series trailers/teasers have been shown now in the first 6 eps. And now it feels like the second half of the story is unfolding. Clearly, things are lot more complex and the corruption is more deeply rooted than at first glance. It was no secret that M&J were involved in the terrorist plot of the plane, and that Chief Min was a high suspect for the mole in NIS. Also while it is not certain, it is highly implied that the President is not on the up&up and is corrupt/compromised by those around him. There is still the large Who Dunnit question that looms large (because there is likely a larger lever of power controlling in the shadows), and as this drama is clearly a spy thriller, the large focus should be on unraveling the conspiracy piece by piece as it has been so far. Now that the most obvious pieces are in place (thank goodness they did no drag out Chief Min as the mole. Also who says he is the only one?), how they expose the potential role of the President/his cronies and his corruption, and how they realize the existence of the Bigger Bad will be the daunting task at hand. And we still need to circle back around to the opening scene in the desert with HR and DG. What happens between them?

     

    In terms of HR as an agent, I feel like the show has been steadily showing more of her character development and might be a more interesting story arc than even DG, who as a character is very simple and straight forward. Obviously, DG is the central figure of the story, but the more I get to know HR, the more I like her. Yes, she was a mess in the Morocco debacle, but honestly, despite the fact that she was acting as a field agent, it is now obvious that she has no interest/desire to be one. She clearly had no prior experience other than officer training (which is far from actual experience in the field) prior to her Morocco trip. HR did not even go there voluntarily. She  would have preferred to be a paper pusher. She is driven to support her family, and her initial commitment to her career at the NIS is based on financial necessity, not duty to country. But eventually, it's shown that her conscience prevails and she cannot just standby and watch injustice prevail. Her character could have been written a lot more consistently, but I feel like it's unfair to expect HR to be a super skilled and wholly competent field agent/fighter in all aspects right off the bat. The show has so far just shown that she generally can defend herself when necessary and that she's intelligent. In interviews, Suzy even points out that her character has an arc in which she grows as an agent. So this is all expected. I think it's fine that she shows moments of promise and moments of lacking within the story point at the moment. What I do have a problem is with the fact that the writers tended to utilize her shortcomings as simply a means for comic relief with an odd sense of comedic timing. Like there is a time and a place, and especially in the first 2-4 eps, the timing sometimes felt a bit off and jilted. There are also a lot of scenes written in a way to enable the plot to move along. If HR had caught Chief Min, not only would I have been impressed that she was able to overpower a man twice her size under a clearly rattled mental state (within a couple hours, she had learned her direct supervisor was a traitor that had tried to kill DG, which lead to her killing a man for the first time, and her colleagues had just been attacked), but then he wouldn't have gotten away for whatever the writers have in mind for his character to do/fight/whatever. 

     

    And in fact, I sometimes feel that HR is actually a more believable and realistic character than DG. Sure, it's much easier to root for DG because they give LSG an overload of cool stunt and fight scenes. But really, how is a normal person, even if he is a trained stuntman, able to fight trained assassins and survive like THREE severe car accidents like it's nothing. But TW cannot make it out of ONE fully conscious? What??! There are comparisons to Jason Bourne and the Bourne Identity series, but Jason Bourne was a highly trained CIA assassin himself!  I understand in order to keep up the tension and action, the characters must be under attack constantly, but there is actually very minimal sense of danger for DG's life at this moment for me. For one thing, we know he's alive until we reach the opening scene of the series, and for another, he apparently is absolutely indestructible, much to even the annoyance of now two hired assassins lol. Also how is he so calm just carrying a dead body? Like clearly HR was shook that she had to actually kill someone out of defense, but DG was pretty unfazed. He should really consider a career change after all this is over. lol. 

     

    Overall, while there are sometimes points where it is lacking, this drama has definitely been entertaining so far. The pacing of the lighter beats were also a bit more balanced in ep 5-6. And importantly, the growing relationship between DG and HR is so sweet to watch, particularly when everything else seems to be going wrong around them. The way you can see a growing sense of respect and camaraderie between the two of them is so satisfying. And you can clearly see why DG is starting to fall for HR: during moments where DG begins to feel despair over Hoon, HR is somehow there to help him through or keep him company in some way. The drunk kiss scenes were also so cute. TW and DG were affected in very different ways. lol. This story is definitely tilting DGxHR in terms of couple ships, but I cannot wait to see TW reluctantly pine over HR (though I can bet, it will be too late). TW might realize his feelings for HR when he sees she is actually a good and worthy agent, but it's DG who actually pushed her to be better in the first place, so there is only one way things can play out in terms of the romance department in my eyes. Just keeping my fingers crossed for a couple good romantic scenes and kisses. And yes, that's plural for kisseS. I don't want the only real kiss to be at the very end. I mean, it's 2019. I  don't even ask for heavy emphasis on the romance. But I think we all can handle an action drama with some good romance sprinkled that is not at glacial pace thankyouverymuch. 

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  6. Yay for strong ratings!

     

    I've been noticing that most of the articles and comments on naver are focusing on PBG and how adorable he is (and I agree!). But I just wanted to show SHK some additional love and share this article I came across (it was like a sub-featured article) while browsing naver. It was translated by me, so I apologize if it's not perfect. It also has a nice little character analysis of CSH which I appreciated. I also included some of the comments left by readers below.  

     

    https://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=076&aid=0003354828&cluid=enter_201812062320_00000008

     

    "Encounter" Song Hye Kyo's tears + smile. 'Touching' emotional ending, irreplacable actress.

     

    Sometimes a single look can mean more than a 100 words. So many meanings in a single glance. It leaves a resounding impact on viewers. In this respect, the way Song Hye Kyo acted through her eyes at the end of the 4th episode of the Wed/Thurs tvN drama "Encounter" deserves attention. 

     

    Song Hye Kyo's character in Encounter, Cha Soo Hyun, is a woman who has never once lived a life she has chosen. Even though it seems like she has everything as the CEO of a top hotel company, she is woman who has never been able to express how she truly feels. Every action becomes an issue, and she became the queen of gossip. Her life was not free and emotionless. 

     

    This kind of Cha Soo Hyun met Kim Jin Hyuk, a man who has lived a life completely opposite of hers. When she is with Kim Jin Hyuk, she forgets reality and rediscovers the laughter she had once lost. But she is also fearful as he approaches her. She worries that his life will become complicated because of scandals, that she will have to once again painfully push away another friend she has come to know.

     

    The sleeping Kim Jin Hyuk can sense Cha Soo Hyun's loneliness in her confession. She lived a life where simple things like making friends was a difficult feat. Rather than experience the pain of pushing friends away over and over again, she eventually decided to choose loneliness first instead. 

     

    In the midst of this, Cha Soo Hyun is faced with a sudden problem. Someone posted a rumor about her on the hotel employee forum. Like she has always done before, Cha Soo Hyun goes about her day head strong. But in truth, the stares and attention she receives are difficult for her. In this moment, Kim Jin Hyuk bravely appears in front of her. The way her eyes brim with tears as she stares and smiles at him is a touching moment. 

     

    Song Hye Kyo shared Cha Soo Hyun's emotions and story through her eyes, pulling in the viewers. Cha Soo Hyun was used to enduring everything alone, but was that much lonelier for it. Kim Jin Hyuk's presence becomes a warm comfort for her. As  tears fill her eyes, Cha Soo Hyun's emotions also grow. It is because of the warmth embracing her loneliness. With tears that look like they could fall at any moment, she smiles. Her presence at the end leaves a lasting impression. 

     

    Even without saying much, with a stare, a look, Song Hye Kyo speaks to the viewers. She helps make the end scene that much more special. There should be a greater appreciation for actors who can express so skillfully. Song Hye Kyo, an actress who can express emotions so deeply, we look forward to seeing what else you can show us in the future. 

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    Comments:

    "I'm pulled in by her"

    "This is why people say SHK, SHK. CSH fighting!"

    "While reading this, I remembered that the director had said he couldn't think of another actress who could express CSH better. From looks, to facial expression, to her gaze, CSH is an exact match with SHK."

    "A look that makes me pay attention. I could feel SH's emotions through her gaze, and I laughed and cried along with her. This is SHK's strength."

    "SHK is so good! PBG is also a cool boyfriend. Daebak!"

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  7. Hi :D 

     

    It's been a long while for me and seems pretty quiet here? But @caileysmiley has definitely been working hard! 

     

    I just wanted to share an article I came across Kyo on Naver. I know the large majority (like 98%) of the articles and comments are pretty much inundated by PBG. And I love the guy. He's a cute and fluffy puppy. But I found myself kind of wanting to see articles talking about Kyo's acting. And then I stumbled across one that was highlighted. It doesn't have an insane amount of comments or clicks, but it's still a good one. Sorry if some of my translation is off in places. Some Korean phrases are just hard to directly translate to English. 

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    https://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=076&aid=0003354828&cluid=enter_201812062320_00000008

     

    "Encounter" Song Hye Kyo's tears + smile. 'Touching' emotional ending, irreplacable actress.

     

    Sometimes a single look can mean more than a 100 words. So many meanings in a single glance. It leaves a resounding impact on viewers. In this respect, the way Song Hye Kyo acted through her eyes at the end of the 4th episode of the Wed/Thurs tvN drama "Encounter" deserves attention. 

     

    Song Hye Kyo's character in Encounter, Cha Soo Hyun, is a woman who has never once lived a life she has chosen. Even though it seems like she has everything as the CEO of a top hotel company, she is woman who has never been able to express how she truly feels. Every action becomes an issue, and she became the queen of gossip. Her life was not free and emotionless. 

     

    This kind of Cha Soo Hyun met Kim Jin Hyuk, a man who has lived a life completely opposite of hers. When she is with Kim Jin Hyuk, she forgets reality and rediscovers the laughter she had once lost. But she is also fearful as he approaches her. She worries that his life will become complicated because of scandals, that she will have to once again painfully push away another friend she has come to know.

     

    The sleeping Kim Jin Hyuk can sense Cha Soo Hyun's loneliness in her confession. She lived a life where simple things like making friends was a difficult feat. Rather than experience the pain of pushing friends away over and over again, she eventually decided to choose loneliness first instead. 

     

    In the midst of this, Cha Soo Hyun is faced with a sudden problem. Someone posted a rumor about her on the hotel employee forum. Like she has always done before, Cha Soo Hyun goes about her day head strong. But in truth, the stares and attention she receives are difficult for her. In this moment, Kim Jin Hyuk bravely appears in front of her. The way her eyes brim with tears as she stares and smiles at him is a touching moment. 

     

    Song Hye Kyo shared Cha Soo Hyun's emotions and story through her eyes, pulling in the viewers. Cha Soo Hyun was used to enduring everything alone, but was that much lonelier for it. Kim Jin Hyuk's presence becomes a warm comfort for her. As  tears fill her eyes, Cha Soo Hyun's emotions also grow. It is because of the warmth embracing her loneliness. With tears that look like they could fall at any moment, she smiles. Her presence at the end leaves a lasting impression. 

     

    Even without saying much, with a stare, a look, Song Hye Kyo speaks to the viewers. She helps make the end scene that much more special. There should be a greater appreciation for actors who can express so skillfully. Song Hye Kyo, an actress who can express emotions so deeply, we look forward to seeing what else you can show us in the future. 

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    I think the author is a fan of Kyo lol. I was originally going to summarize it, but I really liked the way it was written, so ended up just translating the whole thing. Hope you all enjoy!

     

    Edit: oops. I also wanted to include some of the comments left on the article:

    "I'm pulled in by her"

    "This is why people say SHK, SHK. CSH fighting!"

    "While reading this, I remembered that the director had said he couldn't think of another actress who could express CSH better. From looks, to facial expression, to her gaze, CSH is an exact match with SHK."

    "A look that makes me pay attention. I could feel SH's emotions through her gaze, and I laughed and cried along with her. This is SHK's strength."

    "SHK is so good! PBG is also a cool boyfriend. Daebak!"

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  8. Um... so the angst has definitely arrived. And it's only ep 3!

     

    I was kind of surprised that the opening scenes were with SH vs Team Evil Moms. I know they've been portraying SH's dad in a more sympathetic light. And it's clear that SH is really only enduring all this because she really loves her dad, not for her mom's ambition. But it makes you wonder, how "good" is her father when he must know the extremes his wife goes to use their daughter for personal advancement. I suspect that when the time does come that SH realizes her happiness also has worth and she finally stands against her parents, thus "risking" her father's political career, her father will likely be more forgiving than her mother. But still, turning a blind eye to his daughter's unhappiness when he is at the center of the reason for her current circumstance is just as bad.

     

    I wonder about the pacing for this story. It's only ep 3 and we're already heading head first into the deep end of Angst. And the conflict is the more typical family/power drama, which usually appears in the middle of the story-arc in dramas as that FINAL hurdle to happily ever after.  And while SHG and PBG have definite star power, surviving a dragged-out evil mother-in-law plot throughout the entire series with high ratings will be tough. So fingers-crossed that the writer is playing a long-game. 

     

    In terms of foreshadowing, I think there will likely be an incident with her sleeping pills, possibly an OD situation during some moment of extreme turmoil, or an accident, like what almost happened in ep 1 before JH caught her. Her dependency has been on display since ep 1, and was highlighted by the driver in their exchange in her room and his look of disapproval. Or maybe I've seen too many kdramas. The foreshadowing just seems so blatant, no?

     

    I'm not sure if her ex, JWS, will turn evil or not. I could see it going both ways. I really hope he does not go bad, as it would be more refreshing that way. And instead, they end up as friends and working together to help each other to break free of their mothers' grasps and live their own lives. I feel like JWS is a rather sad character. He likely felt like he connected to SH because of their similar circumstance, and chose to let her go because of his love for her as he was powerless against his mother to do otherwise. I hope that his feelings for SH do not turn into possessiveness, like his mother. Rather, that through his feelings for SH, he is able to finally stand up to his mother in the way he should have when they were married. 

     

    Finally, I know everyone seems to be fawning over JH's sudden confession, but honestly, I think one of my favorite moments was when he rang her doorbell and she opened the door, and he freaked out and made up a random excuse about wanting to take her to eat this soup. Such an obvious lie, and you know she could tell, because it was so absurd. But he was looking SO nervous and desperate and sincere. SH just smiles gently and plays along. One thing I noticed was that in this scene, the camera focuses on their feet, panning from his sneakers to her slippers. Then again under the table later at the restaurant. The closeness of their feet under the table after his confession just got to me, and was THE favorite moment of this episode for me. The way one foot slowly shifted in her direction, almost earnestly yet cautiously.  It was so brief, but SO intimate for some reason. What a nice, subtle touch by the director. Then in the preview for ep 4, you see on of her feet move away from his. There has been such an emphasis on the characters' feet/shoes as a reflection of their feelings since ep 1, from SH's heels, walking barefoot, to her sandals. I hope the show continues to utilize this symbolism as an ongoing thread through the show. 

     

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  9. Ah I just wanted to stop by and congratulate SHK for her two awards!! 

    I've been lurking a bit in the shipper thread and caught up here, and it seems like a lot of fans are understandably disappointed with SHK not winning best actress/daesang. 

    To be honest, I felt like this year was really tough competition in terms of nominees. I, for one, did watch Signal. And to be VERY honest, it was REALLY good. I started skeptically in the beginning and was really impressed throughout the entire run. It might not be everyone's favorite genre, but I was really happy that it was recognized for its quality, especially since it is from a cable network with less access to promotion and viewers. Did I want SHK to win? YES, OF COURSE!  But truly, KHS was really deserving of the award as well. And frankly, I understand why the majority of netizens are up in arms over why JJW did not win for best actor/daesang for Signal. Not saying this to bring the mood down or anything, but to help give fans some perspective in terms of how tough the TV categories were this year. (And that's a really great thing in terms of the industry). Plus better quality and variety of work for actors is also what SHK cheers for.

    Additionally, I actually think it's really important that cable shows are properly recognized and applauded for their works since more recently, they offer a greater variety and more opportunities than public broadcast. Also, they don't have an end of the year award show like the major public broadcast networks do, so many great works and the efforts of great actors/actresses go unrecognized. 

    When I first saw the nominees released, I had a feeling it would be largely between Signal and DOTS.

    Now if this had been KBS Drama Awards, I would have also felt that SHK had legitimately been robbed because KBS has mostly been in a rut in terms of drama quality and popularity besides DOTS. But in this case, I really think fans should not take it so hard. And in any case, as much as SHK/SJK/Shippers are bemoaning the Baeksang awards for cheating their stars, you have to realize that other fans of other stars are doing the same for different reasons. Kyo fans bemoan Baeksang for choosing KHS, but Signal fans bemoan Baeksang for not giving any award to JJW. While some award shows are much more obvious in favoritism, Baeksang tends to be on the better end of trying to be fair and is one of the few inclusive awards. And as such, they really can't please everyone. In the end, there were just more deserving nominees than awards.

    Basically, let's not bash others simply to praise Kyo. It's not her way. 

    It does suck that a major Baeksang award has eluded SHK for so long. I'm sure the time will come. 

    If anything, I feel like SHK and SJK both really attended for their fans. Coming together also was such sweet fan service. They must have known the overwhelming amount of votes they won. And SHK looked so happy and so much more comfortable than she usually does at an award show. And that itself made me happy. 

    Additionally, I think it's really impressive that SHK was able to win the popularity award! She's not an idol but she was able to prove once again her star power and gain so many new fans. And considering everything she went through and the emotional turmoil she must have felt, I feel like the public recognition and all the love from fans means that much more to her. 

    I will confidently say this though, and this is even with objectivity... SHK was the prettiest actress there. I mean, maybe it's because she was wearing all white and the skirt was large so it helped illuminate her face maybe.. but she was glowing. :):) 

    Anyways, I was just simply happy to see SHK on screen again. It felt so long since I last saw her on a screen. 

    So, I'm just grateful she attended. It's the little things. We can't forget the little things. 

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  10. Saw that KMS from DOTS was on a V-app bromance feature with L from Infinity, so was watching it because of my DOTS feels. The end of ep 2 was so cute because they come across one of those little toy dispensers which was a DOTS character bouncy ball dispenser, and they both cracked up. KMS really wanted to get SHK but he got SJK all three times :D:sweatingbullets: He seemed so disappointed lol. Just thought it was adorable because it proves he's a true SHK fanboy. Honestly, I think it's great that the DOTS writers let KMS use his normal busan accent. It's really charming on him. I'm sure SHK found it really cute too ahahah

    Anyways, here's the link: http://www.vlive.tv/video/8381/%EA%BD%83%EB%B8%8C%EB%A1%9C-Celebrity-Bromance-L--Minseok-EP2-Were-besties they're both so cute hahaha. Plus it's already subbed in multiple languages for international viewers!

    It's been pretty slow on SHK news front besides the voting and documentary. So hope this helps :) It's small but it still made me giggle. heh. Thanks to all the voters too! Hope we can get her to Baeksang!! 

     

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  11. Congrats to SHK for the nomination!! She completely deserves it!

    Her co-nominees are definite contenders too though, which makes me nervous because I would love to see SHK win. In my opinion, SHK, KHS, and RMR are probably the top 3 contenders just based on their works. Just my opinions. All 5 actresses are really solid though. This makes it so much harder! >.< 

    Really hope SHK wins though!

    And that we see her walk the carpet with her co-star :D:D:D 

    I just want more DOTS feels. lol. 

    Missing the weekly dose of SHK and kdrama-crack. SIGH. 

     

    Spoiler

    P.S. If anyone has any good drama suggestions, feel free to PM me please. I'm always wary of starting new ones just starting to air because I hate the weekly waits. (I couldn't help it with DOTS because .. SHK & SJK...both obvious reasons ahah). But yeah, feeling a bit aimless here kdrama-wise. Nothing is really catching my eye. Urgh. It's really hard getting over a crack-kdrama. Do I have to wait until Uncontrollably Fond? (TBH, really hoping this one is good!) Or Jealousy Incarnate?? (Whenever the drama over that drama ever settles). Sigh. 

     

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  12. http://entertain.naver.com/ranking/read?oid=433&aid=0000016679

    So this is a link to a Dispatch article covering the lawsuit.

    It basically lists a lot of J.Estina's major arguments and then refutes them. Essentially, it seems pretty understanding as to why SHK decided to speak out against the company. The netizen comments also are pretty supportive of SHK in this article, so that's nice to see I guess. And a lot of them are commenting that these are the true "facts".. 

    On another note, I wonder if SHK has a positive relationship with Dispatch?? Because they seem to be really positive about her lately. Not that I'm complaining.. but in general, I have a mixed opinion about Dispatch. lol. Maybe it's just me that seems to notice this? 

    I remember reading this in a past article about her rejection of the Mitsubishi CF deal: SHK said that she was the type to stand by what she believes is right/just, no matter what others might say. I think this is really applicable in this situation as well and that it's particularly admirable of her to speak up despite having a strong positive public opinion. She probably waited to act on this issue until the drama had completed, so as not to draw attention away from the show and the staff/cast's efforts. But it is also an issue that needs to be addressed sooner than later, especially since J.Estina was currently pushing DOTS/KMY jewelery so it is relevant. So I think it's particularly brave on her part to still act on the injustice knowing she will be facing hateful and hurtful comments, knowing that her past scandal would be brought up, knowing that her hard-earned positive image would again take a slight dip. She could have easily just turned a blind eye to this kind of thing as many other actors/actresses have in the past and just try to ride the popularity wave. But she didn't. And that speaks levels about her character in my opinion. 

    I also don't understand why J.Estina came out swinging so angrily and bitterly. It's like they reacted first in pure anger without really thinking. Even if they do win the lawsuit, their image will still be tarnished as a company, especially in light of the statement released by NEW and the refutes made by this Dispatch article.

    I feel like this issue could have been handled a lot more quietly. Additionally, it appears legit that J.Estina had been warned by the production company several times. This also means, SHK and UAA mostly likely approached them about the issues as well, but most likely saw no real action or sincere apology. They probably just asked SHK to renew as a model to try and cover up the entire issue, but instead she refused, as she should have. I know that a lot of people seem frustrated with UAA in regards to how they're handling the situation. It's true, sometimes, I wish they didn't include certain claims, but I'm fairly certain that most of these statements are likely first approved by SHK prior to public release. UAA for the most part is really supportive of SHK and respects her individuality and independence.  So in my opinion, it's not really fair to blame UAA in this situation. They are representing SHK, and she is a woman with a strong sense of self. 

    Let's just have faith in her as fans and hope that things work out in her favor.

     

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  13. 52 minutes ago, crixa said:

    @smiletall thank you for your wonderful insight. I hope you post more. I love reading your posts and I can't help but agree. I think it's a shame that SHK was portraying a blind woman in TWTWB. Their chemistry was amazeballs, imagine if Kyo was able to look at JIS too. I hope they make another drama in the future where both can have direct eye contact with each other. :D Thank you for your translations as well as always. :wub:

    @hclover96 I agree. I'm a greedy fan too. Kyo deserves the Daesang. She and SJK both deserve it. They should have a co-Daesang. However, if only SJK wins, I'm going to flip some tables. Not because SJK does not deserve it. He deserves it as much as Kyo. He is a wonderful actor and portrayed YSJ flawlessly. He is not beneath Kyo as an actor, however, as a character, I don't think YSJ and KMY are equal in terms of depth. YSJ to me, has been the same from day 1 and throughout the series. Kang Mo Yeon on the other hand, has character development. KMY is a multidimensional character, plus the fact that DOTS wasn't filmed chronologically, imagine how emotionally difficult it will be. But Kyo nailed the character KMY and she even exceeded expectations. 

     

     

    @crixa aw you're too sweet :) And I know. As much as I loved TWTWB, I really was desperate for some eye contact between her and JIS. (Well desperate for anything really between that OTP.. but the story kind of made progress..erm.. difficult to say the least.. The angst was strong with TWTWB...lol)  Of course there were moments that her blindness made the scene that much more telling because JIS would be saying one thing, but his face would be literally expressing another (goosebumps!). But in general, you could already feel the tension when they weren't looking at each other directly. If there had been eye contact during emotionally charged scenes, I'm pretty certain ratings would have been even higher than it already was. haha

    I actually also just wanted to comment on your analysis of KMY and YSJ, just because I basically just wrote the same thoughts on the main DOTS thread! :o It's also a sentiment I expressed since the latter half of the drama lol. So I totally understand you. They both deserve daesangs. But I would feel a bigger sense of remorse if SHK was snubbed especially if you consider the trajectory of her character in the drama.  

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